Another Intelligent Ambot Strikes!

I got love bombed!

This was left under my post about messing with spring leadership. http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2011/02/messing-with-amway-wwdb-spring.html

Anonymous said...

YOU ALL SEEN TO HAVE THE EMPLOYEE MINDSET, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU ALL DO NOT KNOW THE VALUE OF OWNING YOUR OWN BUSINESS, AND ALL THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT. EMPLOYEES WILL NEVER MAKE MORE THAN THEIR BOSS.
HAVE FUN IN THE JOB PYRAMID FELLAS; KEEP TRADING YOUR TIME; (YOUR TIME WHICH SHOULD BE MORE VALUABLE THAN ANYTHING) FOR MONEY AT YOUR JOB.
MY BOYFRIEND AND I ARE ON OUR WAY TO RETIRMENT THIS YEAR (2011). I AM 19, AND HE IS 23. HOW YOU SAY? ARE WE IN A CULT, A SCAM? NO... WE HAVE JUST LEARNED TO HUMBLE OURSELVES TO TAKE ADVICE FROM THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WWDB AND AMWAY SUCCESSFULLY.
QUITTERS NEVER WIN, AND WINNERS NEVER QUIT!
ROCK ON WWDB AND AMWAY!

Don’t you just love it how these ambots think that everybody in the whole world who isn’t part of Amway does not own a business. Its just such an inconceivable and foreign concept to them that there are actually business owners walking the face of the earth who have nothing to do with Amway. Many people who visit my blog have mentioned they own their own business either as a sole proprietor or as a family run business. Myself included. I’d say many of us already know the value of owning our own business. We also know the trauma of “owning” an Amway business.

I don’t agree that employees never make more than their boss. Here its important to note that the boss and the owner are not necessarily the same person but a fucked up IBO would not know that there’s a difference because of the information control from their upline. A boss could be a paid employee too. In most cases you’d think the owner makes more money than the employees but not always. Bills and salaries are paid first and whatever is left over is usually the owner’s profit. If its a bad month with unexpected expenses after the bills are paid maybe the owner gets zippo. (Just like an Amway business!) If business is really suffering and they close up shop the employees are probably eligible to collect unemployment benefits but the owner does not so even unemployed the employees still make more money than the owner.

Put it another way that no ambot will be able to grasp. Amway owns the products and Amway owns their commissioned salespeople - aka IBO’s. No IBO out there will ever make more money than Amway. The Amway owners sit at the top of the pyramid and there they’ll stay until some extraordinary lawsuit comes along that topples them off and shuts them down for good.

Job pyramid? Gee, where have I heard that one before? Oh I know! At just about every Amway meeting where the speaker tries to deny that Amway is not a pyramid. If someone has to spend a lot of time denying something that’s a good indication of a problem. Didn’t an attorney general in Michigan already label Amway as a pyramid scheme about 30 years ago? Even since then IBO’s have had to do damage control and the best they can come up with is some fucking job pyramid. Bunch of fucking morons!

Lets see 19 and 23? Just about the right age for Amway cultists to reel them in. On their way to retirement this year? Then to further punctuate that because everyone who is not involved with Amway has no clue what year this is they add 2011 in brackets.

If they were actually learning anything from their upline about running a business they would have learned that the things you can not do yourself you hire someone else to do. This is why we hire professionals like accountants, attorneys, computer gurus, etc.

These know it alls need to hire a computer expert because they are going through life seemingly unaware that their caps lock button is stuck on their computer and they don’t have the knowledge to know how to turn it off. But then most IBO’s drift through life seemingly unaware of everything that’s going on around them.

Their writing skills are poor and they don’t know how to express themselves properly to avoid looking like fools. They can hire someone to write for them. What about an image consultant? I read on another blog that IBOFB is running a service to improve online images. Perhaps these ambots should consult with him.

Like we need any further proof that Amway IBO’s are a bunch of judgemental bastards who look down their noses at anyone who has a job.

Like we need any further proof when ambots show up with these comments - and they all sound exactly the same - that they’ve all been listening to the same sermon from their cult leaders and parrot it back at us.

Yes you are in a cult and you are being scammed while you scam others. That’s what Amway is about.

And leaving comments like this on a blog just contributes to the overall bad image Amway has.

Amway is Killing Me!

A recent searcher on Google found their way to my blog by typing in “Amway is killing me”.

Literally or figuratively I have no way or knowing.

I’ve seen comments on other blogs and in the book Merchants of Deception where association with Amway literally killed IBO’s.  

Tired IBO’s died while driving home late at night from an Amway meeting and fell asleep at the wheel and were killed in a car crash. There were two employees at Amway headquarters who worked in the technology department (I think) who were having an affair and the man killed the woman and then committed suicide - if I’m remembering the story correctly. I read it last year and haven’t gone back to review it.

There are likely many other stories out there that we don’t know about. I’m sure some IBO’s have committed suicide after losing all their money, their house, and their family thanks to their Amway stint. All tragic deaths. And of course similar stories have happened to people every where who had nothing to do with Amway. I’d say its accurate that Amway has been a contributing factor to some deaths. Actual numbers will likely never be known. Who keeps track of morbid details anyway where people were killed and Amway was the common denominator.

What about figuratively? People often throw around phrases like “If you don’t show up at dinnertime with my pizza I’m going to kill you.” Unless they’re a mentally deranged individual they don’t really mean they’ll take the person’s life if their slice of deep dish pepperoni doesn’t show up on time. More than likely they’ll just be pissed off and won’t slice the person’s throat.

“Amway is killing me.”

Interesting topic for a search and I wonder how Amway is killing this individual.

In my case Amway was killing me by using my husband against me on the direct orders of this fucking upline and that son of a bitch Platinum in particular. Amway took a lovely, kind, sensitive person and turned him into an ugly, sneering, condescending son of a bitch who looked down his nose at people who didn’t want anything to do with Amway and treated them like shit the way he was trained to do so by his upline.

Amway was killing me by stealing our money.

Amway was killing me by stealing our time.

Amway was killing me filling my house with their shitty products.

Amway was killing me by putting up with a pompous sack of shit Platinum who demanded my husband’s submission and adoration.

Amway was killing me by tormenting my emotional well being.

Amway was killing me by boring me to death sitting in at meetings and functions.

Back to the original searcher who says “Amway is killing me”. I sure hope he means this only as words of frustration and not that he’s actually considering killing himself, committing suicide because of Amway.

Good luck to you searcher. I hope you find the answers you need to break loose from the Amway cult.

Love What You Do?

If you love what you do you never work a day in your life.

That’s something to think about whether you’re self employed or work for someone else.

There are employees who love the company they work for, the owners, their bosses, the job itself and are perfectly happy.

Of course Amway IBO’s look down their nose at these people and sneer at them because they have a J.O.B. But then Amway IBO’s are the biggest judgemental bastards around!

There are many entrepreneurs who have started their own businesses using the concept of find something you love to do and figure out a way to make money at it.

Again Amway IBO’s will sneer at these entrepreneurs because the business they own is not an Amway business. It is so totally inconceivable to Amway IBO’s that people can actually own businesses that have nothing to do with Amway and make a decent living and love what they do. But then what else do you expect from a bunch of Amway IBO’s who are the biggest judgemental bastards around?!

I had no interest in getting involved with Amway. I didn’t like our sponsor, disliked the upline, hated the high priced products, and hated wasting my time at board plan meetings and functions listening to bunch of assholes lie to us.

There is no way in hell that I could ever use the phrase “love what I do” when referring to Amway.

How can I love lying to people about how good business is when in reality we’re losing money?

How can I love taking time away from my family, friends, and activities that are important to me to waste time at Amway meetings?

How can I love watching the credit card soar when we were debt free before getting involved with Amway?

How can I love enduring these fake nicey nice people who love bomb us and promise undying lifelong friendship?

How can I love listening to Diamonds lie to us from the stage?

How can I love lying to people that the reason Amway products are high priced is because they’re high quality?

How can I love being an IBO - aka commissioned salesperson - when I don’t have the personality to be a salesperson?

How can I love putting up with a pompous sack of shit Platinum who expects submission and obedience and undying adoration from the cult followers?

I loved what I was doing before being involved in Amway and I love what I’m doing now that we’re not involved anymore.

Do I love what I do when it comes to blogging? You bet! I love bitching about the assholes I had to put up with during the Amway hell days.

Thanks to me blogging about them karma bites those bastards in the ass - right where I’d love to kick them!

Well, no, that’s a lie.

That’s my second choice where I’d love to kick them!

Membership Fees

One of my few posts where I diss Amway rather than my upline.

Today the topic is membership fees.

Our sack of shit Platinum would spout off bullshit about how Amway is no different than Costco because both charge a yearly membership fee.  And then he would sneer and say at least with Amway you get money back.

Membership at Costco is $50/year. This information is readily available on their website on the home page where there are 2 links that can be clicked - membership or join the club.

Amway is a lot more difficult to find membership fee information. Go to their web page and click link after link after link. I finally found a pdf document about their business opportunity and on page 13 learned the registration fee costs $62 so its gone up since we signed up a few years ago. And well hidden.

Its not too difficult to become a member of Costco. You go to a store and fill out a membership form and pay the annual fee. Or do it online. Costco annual membership fee is good for one year from the date when you signed up and renews one year later.

Amway is tougher. You have to be sponsored by an existing IBO. Annual membership fee is due upon signing up and renewed for each calendar year. So if you sign up as an IBO in July you pay your annual membership fee at that time and it will be due again by January 1. Not prorated. Not due on anniversary date of signing up.

Products at Costco are usually name brand products you can buy in grocery stores but Costco sell a lot of their food stuff in warehouse or bulk packs. Compared to the unit cost it is cheaper than buying at the grocery store. The problem of course is that you now have to stock up your larder or have a large group of people you’re feeding. Costco also sells many other things like electronics, clothing, household goods, sports equipment, tires and books that are not sold in bulk.

Going back to what I said above about the Platinum sack of shit sneering about Costco memberships and how you don’t get any money back, he forgot to mention with Amway’s memberships you need to spend at least $300/month to get a check of about $10 in return. That's how Amway pays you for shopping there.

Costco has a membership where the customer can get money back. Spend $100 for the annual fee for the upgraded card and Costco sends back a check for 2% of your purchases, no monthly minimum amount required to spend. So if I go to Costco and spend the $300/month earmarked for Amway I will get back $6. The huge difference is that by going to Costco I’ve also saved money because their items are well discounted. I’ve also probably bought things that I actually need or consume. I’m not heading to Costco with the sole purpose of buying things that I normally would not purchase or have no use for.

Lets go back to Amway. Can I save money by shopping there? Nope. Even though that’s part of their bullshit propaganda. Likewise the bullshit about their products being high quality and that justifies their high price. If I can buy laundry soap for $7 at Costco that gets my clothes clean compared to $40 for the same size of Amway’s laundry soap that does the same job of getting my clothes clean, I’ll go for the better price. Do I have to buy shit from Amway that I normally do not purchase? You bet. The upline pressures us to buy things with high PV like vitamins, energy drinks, food bars and other shit that I normally do not purchase. The upline pressures us to buy more, more, more of this useless shit so someone further upline can meet their goal for that month.

Average monthly bill by shopping at Amway - $400. Usually more. Been as high as $1200 in a month. Mostly buying useless shit.

My average shopping trip to Costco is $100 and I don’t shop there every month. I actually use the products that I buy from there.

So is the annual membership worth it?

Even with the yearly membership fee at Costco and depending on the customer’s shopping habits its usually worth it and you usually save at least the $50 membership each year that would have been spent at other stores. When I first signed up Costco was having a promotion and new memberships got a $25 gift certificate so yeah that first year definitely made it worth my while. I do a lot of entertaining and nobody beats Costco’s prices on big cakes, salads, pop, frozen burger patties, and other party fare that Amway does not sell.

I’m not thrilled with any store - and yes that includes Costco - that charges people an annual fee just for the privilege of shopping there. I’m amazed that Costco hasn’t dropped their fee yet. In this day and age of Internet shopping and price comparison that might be in the not so distant future. I mean really why the hell do they have to charge an annual fee? If you offer good prices people will come and shop there. Even if they slightly jacked up their prices to cover the loss of annual membership fees people will still shop there if its a better deal than their regular grocery store.

Likewise Amway on the annual fee. Except Amway does not offer good prices on their products. And charges a higher membership fee than Costco.

Costco likes it when their customers shop there because they make money but they do not use any bully tactics to strong arm customers to buy from them nor do they strongly suggest what customers should buy once they're in the store. Unless you count the employee standing at the door giving out that weeks coupons to get good deals on some products.

Amway? Bully tactics from the upline to shop there? Absolutely!

Its a cash cow for any store that charges an annual fee to shop there. That’s how the owners line their bank accounts. There’s no doubt in my mind that both Amway and Costco have people who renew their memberships every year but don’t do any shopping. Talk about free money for the owners with very little effort. With Costco they mail out the annual renewal and many customers who don’t shop there vey often renew “just in case” there is something they might want to buy there in the upcoming year. With Amway pressure from someone upline to renew might sway an IBO who otherwise doesn’t do anything with Amway. Ridiculous. The upline IBO does not receive any compensation from membership fees. They’re only helping the Amway owners get some more free money.

So that begs the question - how come towards the end of the year Amway IBO's pester IBO's to renew their membership even though they don't buy nothing, attend meetings, or do anything at all. What's in it for them? Adoration from Amway's owners?

Using Your Dreams Against You

When recruits are being prospected by IBO’s they are asked about their dreams.

Often that is met by silence. Most people don’t know how to respond to “what are your dreams” because its kind of private only to be shared with people you’re close to.

A person might not know exactly what the IBO is asking or be a little confused about the direction of the question. Or they might not have thought about putting their dreams out there for other people to know about.

A good answer might be “none of your fucking business”. Especially if you suspect its an Amway IBO!

If the prospect says they don’t know or haven’t thought about it the scumbucket IBO will try another tactic.

“Imagine you won the Powerball. What would you do with all that money?”

A windfall of money drops in your lap. Millions of dollars to spend. What do you buy?

Be very careful with that answer because if you sign up with Amway your upline will use that answer against you for as long as you remain in “the business” and taunt you and torment you and dangle that elusive dream over your head.

There is a charitable organization that is close to our hearts. Doesn’t matter which one. Most people have a cause that they support and I’m not identifying ours because of the hits my blog gets for Amway searches and I don’t have the charity’s permission to associate them with a pyramid scheme. So when asked about his dream Ambot made the bad decision to tell the upline he’d like to build or buy a hospice for dying patients or a home where family members can stay near to the hospital where their loved one is being treated. A dream like that would take a good chunk of money to build and operate.

Bad Ambot! Badddddd mistake telling the fucking upline about his dream to have a home where dying patients and/or their families could stay. Then he was ferociously tortured by his upline because he was unable to find any prospects to bring to meetings, sign up any downline, or get customers. The upline held it over his head taunting him about how all these people were going to die and it was going to be all his fault because he wasn’t working hard enough to build them a place to live.

Bunch of sick bastards accusing Ambot that he’s responsible for people dying because he’s not working the Amway business hard enough.

That’s part of the Amway cult. That’s part of the brainwashing process.

Don’t let what happened to Ambot happen to you. Whatever your dreams are keep them to yourself and NEVER EVER share them with someone involved in Amway. If you let anyone involved in Amway know what your dreams are you will be tortured and tormented and ridiculed and made to feel like shit.

“I guess your dream just wasn’t big enough” was the familiar quote from the fucking upline because they’d been given the ammunition to use Ambot’s dreams against him.

So one more time I send a big fuck you out to our sponsor and our Platinum and any other IBO’s who tormented us during the Amway penance.

Professional Liars

If someone is a good liar then they have the potential to be part of the 1% of IBO’s who make money at Amway. This is because you have to lie all the time when recruiting prospects or finding customers to buy overpriced shit.

Some of the lies that IBO’s are expected to tell:

“No, this isn’t Amway. We just use Amway to move our products.”

“Where else can you work a business 10 hours a week and earn $100,000/year.”

“After a few months you will be making thousands of dollars.”

“Business is going great!”

“You will save money by buying from your own store.”

“Everything to do with the business is tax deductible.”

“We’re debt free. We pay for everything in cash.”

“Amway owns the Amway Stadium in Orlando Florida.”

“Amway saves marriages. There’s a low divorce rate in Amway.”

“People who don’t succeed in Amway are either lazy or they didn’t try hard enough.”

“Now is the time to get on board because exciting changes are about to happen.”

“People who are not involved with Amway are broke losers.”

“Tools are optional.”

“We will buy back your tools if you leave the business.”

“We sell high quality products and they’re reasonably priced for their high quality.”

“You will collect residual income for the rest of your lives.”

“I work with a team of millionaires developing online businesses.”

Of course the biggest lie is denying the business has anything to do with Amway. That goes with tricking prospects into coming to a meeting. Even when the prospect specifically asks if this business opportunity has anything to do with Amway the IBO denies and lies.

Its really amazing that IBO’s spout off lies and then claim they run an ethical business. I love the bullshit about how every IBO out there thinks they offer outstanding customer service. Almost every non-Amway entrepreneur out there says the same thing about how they offer the best possible customer service and how their excellent customer service sets them apart from everyone else.

I’d say the majority of people who sign up as IBO’s are probably honest people. After they’ve been with Amway for a few months their conscience takes over and they become uncomfortable lying to people about how great business is going and how Amway is so wonderful. They’re not making any money and they’re spending a fortune buying Amway products and tools. They cut their losses and quit. Amway is a poor business choice for anyone because it has less than a  1% chance of success but Amway has a zero percent chance of success for honest people. It is difficult to fight with your conscience over the lies you constantly have to tell about Amway. Its the good old “don’t speak negative” bullshit aka “telling the truth”. Amway IBO’s refuse to acknowledge any truth that might be negative. When someone asks how business is going the IBO who is losing money has to lie and brag about how good business is and how its growing. I mean you tell someone the truth about how much money you spend each month and you get a check for $10 from Amway how desirable does that sound to a prospect. When someone asks how the products taste the IBO has to lie and say they taste great even though those food bars are nasty tasting shit. They have to brag about Perfect Water and lie about how it cures every ailment known to man.

All the lies are uncomfortable for honest people and they take their toll on a person having to lie all the time about Amway.

Not everyone is honest. Some people have no trouble telling lies. There are IBO’s who have been in Amway for many years. Maybe they’re making money or breaking even. Maybe not. Either way they’ll still lie about how good business is and how fast its growing. The IBO’s who are the best liars are the ones who stick with the Amway business for years and have a shot of being part of the 1% who make money.

Over the years they’ve perfected the art of telling lies. Our upline were professional liars and what I've observed is that its easier for a liar to become an Amway IBO than an honest conscientious person.

Professional liars only need apply.

All others - RUN as fast as you can.

The Platinum’s Mouth Moves!

So who watches Judge Judy? Whenever she has teenagers on the show she asks their parents how they know their teenager is lying. The answer: “Every time their mouths are moving.”

That same answer applies to our sack of shit Platinum. How do you know when an Amway Platinum is lying? Answer: his mouth is moving!

I posted a link to a transcript a couple of days ago about an expose done by NBC Dateline in 2004. For anyone who hasn’t seen the video, its posted on Youtube in 2 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuEfVbnCT2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR2_m3lefOI&feature=related

I showed that expose to my Ambot when I was pretty sure he’d gotten tired of dealing with Amway. Or perhaps to be more accurate he’d had enough of being abused by the sack of shit Platinum.

I never heard anyone at Emerald or Diamond level mentioning the Dateline piece about Quixtar/Amway but our Platinum brought it up often at the meetings he led. These Amway fuckers have an answer to everything and he would say “how come Dateline did this piece years ago and then they must have learned the truth because now they run Amway’s commercials on NBC”.

To be honest I haven’t the slightest idea which network was running Amway’s commercials. In this day and age of 200 TV channels who remembers which commercial is playing on which network. Could have been several networks running that commercial. Whoever wants to make a few bucks selling advertising is more likely the answer rather than the sack of shit Platinum’s claim that NBC had a change of heart in their attitude about Amway and were therefore making it up to them by airing their commercials at no charge.

Its the same thing with a stadium owned by the city of Orlando, Florida. Our sack of shit Platinum opened his mouth and out came the lies that Amway owns this stadium. The truth is whichever company coughs up the most bucks to the city can put their name on the stadium. Selling the marketing rights to Amway caused a lot of controversy with people who’ve been hurt by the company but a city employee shrugs it off saying if people are stupid enough to get involved with an MLM she’s sorry for them but its not her problem. A buck is a buck when it comes to the city of Orlando.

If any lying IBO tells you that Amway owns this stadium, tell them to read this article and quit lying. https://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/look-whos-knocking/Content?oid=2257550

Another lie our Platinum told bothered me even though I’m not Catholic - neither is he by the way. No kidding on that one! He tells the cult followers not to read stuff on the Internet about Amway because its all lies. He said if you search I hate Amway you’ll get X million hits. I think he said 80 million but I don’t really recall. In the tens of millions, lets leave it at that.

OK, now this next part that he used for comparison I am not going to use the person’s name because it would really bother me that any hate hits pointed to my blog. I will describe her in terms that most of my readers will know who she is. If anyone comments on this post and puts her full name in comments I won’t publish it. Sorry. Even though some controversy surrounded her and her opinions on certain subjects I’m not putting any hate to her on my blog. I’ll call her by her initials of the name she was known as, MT, a nun who died about 15 years ago and spent most of her life working with the poor and dying people in Calcutta and won a nobel peace prize many years ago. Our sack of shit Platinum says if you type I hate her into Google you’ll get twice as many hits as people who hate Amway.

I decided to put it to theory and typed in “I hate Amway” and got 6,360 hits. And yes I used quotation marks otherwise you probably will get millions of hits with people using those words but not in that context just those words that appear in the article but not necessarily strung together. And then I did the same thing using MT’s name and I got 3,220 hits.

This is the reason why I am not using the name this nun was known by. Some of the Google hits are people who loved her or otherwise supported her and quoting someone else who said they hated her and now all of a sudden they are included in that tally.

So putting it in context, our Platinum opened his mouth which means if his mouth is moving he is lying, and he was off by millions in his calculations. And is wrong in saying she got double the hits of Amway. By my calculations the people who hate Amway double the number of people who hate MT. Even without the quotation marks, Amway's numbers are higher than hers.

So to sum it up, if the Platinum’s mouth is moving, he’s lying. And he’s lying because he’s driven by greed. He has an answer to everything and he lies out of desperation to keep the cult followers from learning the truth. If he doesn't constantly lie to IBO's then they will leave Amway and stop funding his dreams.

Evenutally IBO's leave, so the Platinum's lies are all about keeping them in for just a little bit longer and get more money out of them. People get fed up with the abuse and lies and quit. Its not that they didn’t try hard enough - another lie the Platinum will spout off - they got fed up with the abuse from the lying bastard.

Remember that mantra:

Mouth moves, Platinum is lying.

Pursuing the Almighty Dollar at Spring Leadership

Seeing as how its Spring Leadership time for Amway WWDB IBOs here's a link to an article from a reporter who shelled out a few hundred bucks to see what the Amway scam and Spring Leadership was all about. This is a partial transcript of an NBC Dateline documentary. Its always worth a read even though it took place in 2004 and Amway was doing its Quixtar scam to fool people that it wasn't really Amway. Just shows how the lies never change.

In pursuit of the almighty dollar
Dateline presents a year-long investigation of the inside story behind elaborate events that attract hundreds of thousands of people every year with the promise of easy money, selling products like vitamins, cosmetics and home appliances.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4375477/ns/dateline_nbc-consumer_alert/from/toolbar

Career Choice: Cult Leader!

Here’s a comment that appeared on my posting Quitting Amway During Spring Leadership.

Anonymous said...

Just to let you all know, all of you dont have a life for bashing on people that are trying to grow an asset and want to be full time parents, and actully HAVE a life insead of chasing a paycheck for the rest of our lives. When people are trying to do somthing to benift their future why would you take the time outa ur day to diss somthing that could be helping someone?
Like serisouly?? lol Mkaes me sad. Porn and gossip are the number 1 money makers in world right now. And its all thanks to the negitive fat ppl that sit at home all day online and bash on people all day becuse no one cares about them and it makes themselves feel better.

It takes someone with a really low self image to think that have the right to talk shit about somthing like this. I wish all of you the best in ur life, even though all of you are going no where. I still love people, so there for i love you and wish all of you the best from the bottom of my heart.

I figured this Amway speak deserves its own post as a response! In typical chickenshit fashion I doubt I'll see Anonymous back at my blog again but I always enjoy pulling apart Amway speak as do some of my other readers.

I get tons of IBO’s showing up here after doing a search for Spring Leadership. What can I say? I’m at the top of the search engines, a fact that WWDB and Amway don’t appear to give a shit about otherwise they’d pay me handsomely to take my blog and go away.

Most IBO’s can read the tagline at the top of the blog and see this is a blogger who is intent on showing the world her upline are a bunch of assholes and they’re probably not going to find the information they seek here and so they leave. A few stick around long enough to leave a comment full of Amway speak. Like they think they’re so original and we haven’t heard it all before!

I can appreciate why they stay anonymous. It is very embarrassing to admit that you’re involved with Amway. Also their upline would ride their ass if they found out they were speaking (writing) negative. A HUGE no-no when you’re an IBO.

I don’t bash on people who are trying to grow an asset or become full time parents. I bash on my upline who are a bunch of fucking assholes. They’re liars, they treat people like shit, they abuse their downline, etc, etc. Read more of my posts if you want more stories on those fuckers. There are other ways to grow assets. Getting involved in Amway is over 99% certain failure. Becoming full time parents is something that both partners should discuss prior to having children. I already touched on this subject on another post. A couple should be financially and emotionally prepared to have children. Leave Amway out of the equation especially if you think its the only way that parenthood will ever happen for you. It ain’t the path.

I think most people who get involved in Amway do it under the false impression that they will make something better for their life. There is nothing wrong with trying to make a better life for yourself and your family. Unfortunately upline fails to inform prospects that less than 1% of IBO’s will actually make money at this poor opportunity. Instead they catch them up in the hype of numbers and millionaire lifestyles and retiring after 2 to 5 years while residual income and plenty of it rolls in for the rest of their lives.

Porn and gossip are the number one money makers in the world right now? I thought the illegal drug industry was.

Are you calling me a negative fat person who sits online all day? Someone who still looks hot in a size 5 mini skirt? Someone who is very active and very aware of how to keep my body in shape through exercise and eating well? Someone who swims several times a week and has no problem putting on a swimsuit? Its people like you who look at small women who wear clothes in the single digits and call them “fat” that are the problem. You undeservedly call people fat and are responsible for creating self image problems and creating eating disorders. I bash my upline for their attitudes and their abuse. I don’t poke fun at their bodies. There are many in my upline who tried Nutrilite’s Trim and the only thing they lost was their money not any pounds. Some of them have skin of a different color. Some of them look like they could get a part in a horror flick based on their looks alone. I’m not bashing anyone for the way they look the way you are. Talk about negative!

In closing to my anonymous friend from my native state - you will make an excellent Amway cult leader one day. Look at the negative you have to say, particularly critical of fat people, which is a probably a huge self image thing in our state more than any other place in the world. For all the Amway bullshit propaganda about “don’t say negative” you came here to do that and then say “but I still love all people”. Our upline used to do that too.  They’d be really critical of any small successes and totally make you feel like shit when you were feeling good about making a sale and then in the next breath say “But we still love you.”

Good luck with your career choice as a cult leader!

Spring Leadership Won’t Release its Grip!

After Spring Leadership ended I joined the mass exodus of cars heading out of town. I’d been driving for about half an hour when Ambot’s phone rang. It’s one of his upline’s phone numbers coming up on the call display but its someone crossline who’s actually on the phone talking to him.

The gist of the conversation is the bozo can’t find his cell phone and wonders if Ambot has seen it or taken it with him. Now you’d think a conversation like that would end pretty fast with Ambot saying he hasn’t seen it, he doesn’t have it, he doesn’t know where it is. Then the cellularless bozo can hang up and try someone else. But no. Him and Ambot have some deep philosophical conversation about the missing cell phone that dragged on a good ten minutes. How dumb is that? Especially since we’re in another state and racking up long distance charges seeing as how we don’t have a flat rate plan across the land. Hey, Bozo! Get a clue! Ambot ain’t seen your fucking phone. Hang up! Try someone else instead of discussing the possibilities of what happened to it.

I guess his cell phone has a recording device and Bozo set the recorder and put the phone down somewhere near where Ambot and others in his line were sitting. So Bozo puts his phone down and then buggers off somewhere. Maybe he had a hot date?

Now he’s interrogating the people who were sitting near where he left his phone thinking that one of them might have picked it up or seen who did.

I mean what does he want? A confession? OK I’ll do it just to get the bastard off the phone! “I confess! I saw the henchman take it!”

Just get the bastard off the phone so I can enjoy the drive without enduring any Amway bullshit.

What did you bastards do 20 years ago before everyone owned cell phones with recording devices?

I know! I know! You packed around those big honking tape recorders, you know the ones the size of a lap top that had a microphone attached with a four foot long cord.

At least those big suckers are harder to lose.

As for Bozo, give it up already will you. If your phone isn’t where you last left it and no one turned it into security or lost and found then some thieving IBO is the proud owner of a new cell phone.

Better stop by Verizon in the morning!

Yay! Spring Leadership is DONE!

Spring Leadership sucks!

WWDB sucks!

Amway functions suck!

Dinner with Ambots?

Spring Leadership bullshit is over!

Yee haw!

Let’s get in the car and get the hell out of here ASAP! We have a long drive ahead of us and about 3 hours left of daylight. The highway is going to be packed very quickly with IBO’s wanting to get the hell of out Dodge. I want to get ahead of as many of those brainwashed jerks as fast as I can and keep driving until sunset and then find somewhere to eat.

Ambot got out of the stadium fast enough but the fucking Eagle and a couple of his downline are hot on his heels. I was waiting in a 5 minute passenger pick up/drop off zone with a bunch of taxis in front of the arena so I didn’t have to pay for parking. Ambot shows up with the entourage in tow and announces the others want to go to Red Lobster for dinner and he’d like us to join them.

Hell no! I don’t want to eat dinner with those bastards!

As much as I like eating at Red Lobster I have no interest in dining with a bunch of kiddies, one of them being the young lady who came down to the hotel dining room in her jammies. I just want to get going and put some miles behind us while we still had daylight. I had no idea where the Red Lobster was in this town but lets say 15 minutes or so to figure that out and in the past my dining experiences there have taken at least an hour. We’d be burning daylight. I don’t think so. I’m just as happy stopping at Denny’s at nightfall for a burger. Less expensive too. Remember we’re not like the rest of those tax cheating IBO’s. We don’t claim NOTHING to do with Amway on our tax return.

Ambot looks disappointed but gets in the car.

Spring Leadership is done for another year.

You’re NOT Invited!

On Sunday morning I’m driving Ambot to the stadium where Spring Leadership is being held. I’ve got to circumnavigate the entire complex to get to the front doors so I can get Ambot there early enough to stand in line with all the other keeners. I’m about two blocks away when Ambot spots the sack of shit Platinum standing on a sidewalk or parking lot area with about 30 cult followers standing around him in awe listening to him spout off his bullshit. Fucking morons!

Ambot panics! He’s late for some meeting that he doesn’t remember being told to attend. He’s mostly scared shitless because he’ll be berated by the sack of shit Platinum and ridiculed in front of everyone else for being late. That’s the way Amway cult leaders operate. So I let him out of the car and continued alone to entertain myself for the day.

Later Ambot tells me when he’s rushing to join up with the cult followers that the henchman springs out of the group and wants to know what he’s doing there. Ambot explains we were driving past and he saw the cult leader preaching to his flock and didn’t want to miss out on this very important meeting that he clearly was not invited to.

The henchman explains its for another downline in the sack of shit’s Amway business and because Ambot is in a different crossline and the brainwashing methods are different he was not invited to this cult meeting.

Splitting hairs, the henchman is in the same line as Ambot so why is he being subjected to this other line’s brainwashing? Ah ha some cult followers are just gluttons for punishment!

But then the henchman tells Ambot he can stay if he wants to. And of course he does. Can’t miss a word of wisdom from the beloved cult leader.

Amway WWDB Spring Leadership sucks!!!!

And so does the Platinum sack of shit!!!!!!!!!

Spring Leadership or Spring Break?

Ambot and I went for a walk later in the evening and when we returned to the hotel the clerks were still flipped out from dealing with the brainwashed henchman and reinforcing to him how his credit card was being charged hundreds of dollars for the hotel rooms he held in his name and guaranteed with his credit card for payment. On top of that I gather some IBO’s were behaving badly. Think Spring Break in Fort Lauderdale. Great just what we want. A bunch of drunken IBO’s in various stages of dress or undress whooping it up in the hallways while room hopping.

I mean really. Who believes when the upline designates girls in one room and boys in another room that they’re really going to abide with the sleeping arrangements?

The hotel we were staying at had a complimentary light breakfast. Cereals, breads, donuts, pastries, fruit, yogurt, juice, coffee, that sort of thing. The restaurant - and I use that term lightly - perhaps dining room is a better choice of words - the place where the food was set out and tables and chairs set up. The hotel staff said they had to keep an eye on who was walking through their lobby in the morning looking for free food. Must be a lot of hungry locals around!

There were other guests in the hotel besides Amway conventioneers and it was busy when we got to the dining room. An IBO we knew, a young lady in her 20’s, was sitting at a table with three others. The other three were dressed in their business attire ready to get going to Spring Leadership. She was in her jammies! I mean what the fuck? Have some respect girl! You are in a public place, a restaurant using the term loosely, full of other hotel guests and hotel staff keeping the food stocked up. Did you not notice how everyone else managed to pull their clothes on before leaving their hotel rooms? Even the family with the two little kids are fully dressed. And you’re in your pj’s and slippers. Incredible! And its not like your room is across the hall and you can duck over and back before anyone spots you. You had to walk down a hallway and ride an elevator to get here potentially passing other hotel guests, not all of whom are ambots.

Maybe it was just the air in this town. I went for a walk and when I returned there was a woman in her pyjamas standing in the garden in front of the hotel letting her dog do its business there. And here I thought it was bad enough to be wandering around inside the hotel in your jammies and here’s someone outside the hotel in her pj’s. And this woman had to be in her forties. We’re not talking some kid here.

Do you ladies not have any sense of common decency and what is appropriate to wear in public and what’s not? I have no idea if the dog lady was with Amway but I know the one in the dining room was. Perhaps Amway should send a message out to their IBO’s and quote Mary Kay who says the first thing you do in the morning is get dressed to your shoes. That means you get out of bed and put on the outfit you’re wearing that day, make up, and shoes. You have to be ready to greet anyone who comes to your door unexpectedly. Also means if you have to leave the house in a nanosecond that you’re ready to grab your keys and go.

Time for me to drive Ambot to the convention center and spend the rest of the day relaxing by the pool and reading my book.....

Amway WWDB Spring Leadership sucks!!!!

And wastes time and money!!!!!

The Henchman Ain’t Done Yet!

Ambot and I were probably the first IBO’s to check in at our hotel for the WWDB Spring Leadership function. We’d left home early, spent all day driving and got there early evening. After putting our luggage in the room we headed over to Barnes & Noble to get a book I wanted to read and then out for dinner. IBO’s were arriving by the time we got back to the hotel.

The two employees working the hotel counter looked frazzled. And no wonder. They were dealing with the Platinum’s henchman. I gather there’d been a number of no shows and the problem was the henchman had been screwing around with people’s hotel reservations on the WWDB blocked rooms like he’d tried to do with Ambot. Except now he was on the hook because he’d used his own credit card to guarantee the rooms when he was so busy reassigning everyone and now he was holding empty hotel rooms with no live bodies to put in them and he was arguing with the staff about how his credit card was being charged for the empty rooms. He arrived too late to cancel the rooms and incurred a one night fee on all of them.

To give the henchman credit - or lack thereof - I doubt the asshole thought about messing around with hotel rooms all on his own. The only possible reason he’d have done this was on the direct orders of the sack of shit Platinum who must have decided they better have empty rooms available for the dozens of guests and prospects they’d been so sure were going to make the pilgrimage to attend Spring Leadership and see what this awesome Amway business opportunity was all about. Except the prospects/newbies were all no shows leaving the henchman with a hotel bill for quite a few empty rooms that he was trying to argue about with the staff who were charging him $100 x number of rooms for one night’s cancellation policy. Most hotels have a policy that you use a credit card to guarantee your room if you plan to arrive late, say after 6pm. That way the hotel will hold the room for you all night instead of selling it to someone who walks in off the street. If you don’t show up or fail to cancel the room before the cut off time your credit card will be charged for one night’s stay.

I’m not sure how that turned out but I hope the hotel stuck to their guns and didn’t reverse the credit card charge. Would serve the henchman right. I mean what a dumb ass thing to do. Serves the bastard right for listening to the dumb ass Platinum!

Oh and interestingly enough the sack of shit Platinum was staying at another hotel that he deemed to be a better hotel. The only IBO’s “allowed” to stay at that other hotel were those making it in the business, not the rest of us lowly bastards. Ha ha, him and his wife were sharing a room with at least one other couple that we knew of, maybe more. I guess that kills the mood if romance is in the air! Or I suppose it heightens the mood if orgy is in the air! Damn if I’d known he was staying at the other hotel I’d have booked a room there just to piss off the bastard!

And to chalk up another hotel room getting charged to the henchman’s credit card!

Yeah! Amway WWDB Spring Leadership sucks!!!!

The Henchman Strikes!

There’s a little creep who kisses the Platinum’s ass. I’ll call him the henchman.

Somehow the henchman has access to the hotel reservations that the IBO’s in his Line Of Sponsorship have reserved on the WWDB website for the Spring Leadership convention. Desperate to find something in his life that he can monopolize he puts all the hotel reservations for everyone in our LOS under his name. Of course he now has to use his own credit card number to guarantee all these hotel rooms.

What a fucking moron! Why would he do this? Does he not realize that if nobody shows up to use these rooms and pays him back his credit card is on the hook for any hotel reservations that are not cancelled prior to the hotel’s cut off time. Empty full or anywhere inbetween his credit card will be charged for all hotel reservations under his name unless he cancels them by whatever time the hotel has in their contract. I have no idea what this hotel’s cancellation policy cut off time is. 5pm? 6pm? 24 hours in advance?

The henchman phones Ambot and gloats about what he’s done and tells Ambot he does not have his own room anymore and he’s been assigned to share a hotel room with 3 guys in their twenties. OK lets call Ambot a spade. No let’s call him an old geezer. No old geezer who can afford their own hotel room and wants their privacy wants to do sharesies with 3 kids in their 20’s who are more interested in partying than attending Spring Leadership. And sharesies means another guy in the bed too because there are only two beds per room. I can understand why some people need to share hotel rooms to save on hotel costs. Not everyone wants or needs to double up.

Ambot is PISSED! He doesn’t want to share a bed with anyone but me! He has no idea how the henchman managed to steal the hotel room away from him when he booked it in his name and used his credit card to guarantee the room. But because the hotels are booked through the WWDB website there must be some way that upline can manipulate their downline’s hotel bookings.

So I’m sitting here listening to Ambot rant about all this bullshit. He must have picked up his ranting skills from sitting in on too many Amway meetings run by the sack of shit Platinum!

The longer I listen the more I’m pissed. But I’m more pissed off because I don’t want Ambot driving long distance to Spring Leadership by himself because those two bastards cancelled the day before. I’ve also had it with listening to how the henchman scooped Ambot’s hotel room. I checked the hotel’s web page where hotel reservations can be booked online and there is still availability.

I told Ambot I’m going with him and to phone the henchman and tell him to give back his hotel room. If he doesn’t want to do that then he’s to tell the henchman that I am coming along for the trip and we’ll be booking our own hotel room either in that hotel or somewhere else doesn’t matter to me where we stay. I point out to Ambot that the henchman had to give his credit card number to guarantee the room when he stole it away from Ambot. If no one shows up to use that room the henchman is going to get stuck with the bill for at least one night. What do we care? I’m not really sure how he was able to do that other than the fact that it was a block of WWDB rooms rather than booked directly with the hotel so he may have had some “in” to do this.

Now the henchman joins the pissed off club demanding to know why I’m going to Spring Leadership. Ambot explains to him that I am now the designated co-driver seeing as how everyone else buggered out on  him. The henchman is not happy and to retaliate he tells Ambot the hotel is fully booked. Ambot points out that on their web page the online reservations says they have rooms available.

Now I get worried thinking the henchman might know something I don’t know and I phone the hotel to double check. The clerk tells me they have availability and quotes me a price. I tell him I might have to phone back to book a room. After a few minutes the henchman phones back and tells Ambot he put the hotel room back in his name.

So away we go. Road trip! The only thing that would have made it better was if Ambot wasn’t wasting his time and money at a stupid Amway function.

Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership sucks!

Get ready for Spring Leadership!

Spring Leadership is an Amway WWDB sponsored event held in April. Its one of the four major functions held every 3 months to keep IBO’s motivated not to quit Amway.

I was a bad little IBO. I stopped attending Amway meetings because the pompous sack of shit Platinum had forced his personal and religious beliefs on me (us) one time too many. The only thing I had left to say to this bastard was fuck off.

Spring Leadership is about a day’s drive from our house. Ambot forked out $125 for his ticket and booked a hotel room on the World Wide Dream Busters web site so WWDB must have blocked off hotel rooms to sell to IBO’s. Ambot asked if he could take my car because it gets better mileage and his plan was to drive down with two other “fired up” IBO’s. I grudgingly said he could borrow my car. Bottom line fuel efficiency, drives better for long journeys, new model, and safer. Those other fuckers drove clunkers that were always breaking down.

OK wait for it.

Those little bastards changed their minds about going!

 Oooohhhh...... Apparently I am not the only bad little IBO running amok in this town!

Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership sucks!

And NOBODY wants to go!!!!!!