Leaving People Behind

Part of being involved in Amway is listening the cult leaders talk about destroying existing relationships the ambots have with their family, friends, and co-workers.

Like any cult, the brainwashing techniques are used to separate cult followers from others who can show them the proof that they are in a dangerous cult, they’re throwing their money away at a scam and paying off cult leaders, and that they are being lied to.

Obviously the leaders of any cult don’t want the cash flowing to them to stop. They also are freaks who require others to worship them with undying love and affection so they don’t want that to stop either.

One phrase I heard a lot from our sack of shit Platinum went to the effect of “leaving people behind”. This had to do with people who were not in Amway. Ambots are brainwashed to believe that they are better than everyone else who is not in Amway. They are brainwashed to believe that people who are not in Amway are stupid and losers. They are brainwashed to believe that people who are not in Amway all have jobs working for someone else and will always be broke.

Leaving people behind? Clearly our sack of shit Platinum is not a team player. He could never be a marine because he would never accept their motto about leaving no man behind. Our fucked up Platinum is no different than any other ambot only out for themselves and their greedy materialistic aspirations that the great Amway cult will bring to them. I wouldn’t want to be in a train wreck with that fucker. That’s one asshole who wouldn’t help any other survivors escape a fiery carnage.

Leave them people behind!

That’s the Platinum’s message to the ambots because the good things in life only come to selfish, greedy people in Amway.

Its no different than other religious cults who are brainwashed to believe they are better than everyone else and that they should not associate with people who are not in their cult. Every cult promises some sort of paradise to their followers.

The only way for ambots to gain admission to this paradise - the good life with residual income and plenty of it rolling in forever - is to leave other people behind because they are not in Amway.

Our fucked up sack of shit Platinum cult leader would preach at his followers about why they would want to associate with someone who doesn’t “get it” about Amway. Those people who don’t “get it” don’t “get it” because they’re too stupid to “get it”. Leave them behind!

Burn those bridges!

“As soon as you get rich in Amway then everyone you know who laughed at you will want to sign up and it will be too late for them.” Yup the typical cult leader’s message of doom and gloom for people who are not cult followers. The reason it will be too late for the people you’re leaving behind is because the marketplace has been flooded with ambots and the only people who can make money are those at the top of the pyramid.

But those people have been sitting at the top of the pyramid for many years, decades in some cases.

Leaving people behind to scramble up the slippery sides of a pyramid is the business plan shown to brainwashed ambots.

I got a better plan. The people I leave behind are brainwashed ambots.

Amway Can’t Brainwash All Of Us!

Our pompous sack of shit Platinum had a ton of reasons he didn’t like me, mostly because I was such a rebel and disinterested in anything Amway. Also his fear that I would take back control of our finances and cut off further tithing to the Amway cult.

According to Amway cult leaders people like me must be destroyed! People who can’t be brainwashed by the Amway cult must be eliminated.

Hmmm. I wasn’t planning on turning this into another post about how Amway destroys marriages but what the hell!

The sack of shit Platinum would hold Amway meetings and say he only does business with people he likes. If he doesn’t like you he won’t do business with you.

Well I don’t like you, you fucking miserable Amway bastard, but I’ve obviously done a shitty job of getting that message through to your Amway drunken brain because you seem to be under the false impression that I want to do business with you.

So in his quest to destroy our relationship and poison Ambot against me, the sack of shit Platinum would bitch about me to Ambot. He’d bitch about everything: the way I dress, the “other” makeup I wear, I refuse to mingle with ambots, my phone is old, my car is too new, my dog stinks, the books I read aren’t on the Amway tool scam reading list. You name it, he bitched about it. It all leads to one thing. He’d bitch about me not being “coachable”. Pompous asshole. I told you the day I met you that I had no interest in Amway. I didn’t want to pay to go to Amway cult meetings, I didn’t want to buy overpriced shitty products, etc. And its a huge surprise to you that I’m not “coachable”.

Dumb ass sack of shit Platinum cult leader!

I’m also not coachable when it comes to jumping out of airplanes or becoming a lion trainer. If I have zero interest in something or something I deem to be dangerous like getting involved in the Amway cult and losing all our money then I’m not going to bust my ass learning anything about it.

Then Ambot would parrot back the Amway speak in an accusatory tone to me: “The dumb ass pompous sack of shit fucked up Platinum (OK so those are my words not Ambot’s!) says that you’re not coachable.”

So when did I ever claim that I was coachable?

Give me something fun or something I want to do and I can be “coachable”.

And right back at the Platinum - why bitch about someone not being coachable when they told you that the first day they met you? Lousy miserable troublemaking Amway bastard!

Amway speak: “You’re not coachable” is better translated “I can’t brainwash you.”

So take that you fucking excuse for a human being asshole Amway cult leader! You can’t brainwash us all!

Amway’s Retirement Plan?

Don’t laugh - but a searcher ended up on my blog searching for “does Amway have a retirement plan”?

OK. I will laugh. That is funny that some dumb ass actually thinks Amway has a retirement plan! I don’t know if that refers to Amway employees or Amway IBO’s which are pretty much one and the same. They’re all (mis)representing Amway in some capacity. And neither has a retirement plan.

I heard from an Amway employee who worked for the head office in Michigan for many years. No retirement/pension plan. And quite bitter about it, as rightly they should be. I have ambots showing up on my blog leaving comments about how Amway did $10 billion in business last year. You’d think a company this big would take care of its employees. I’ve worked for companies nowhere near that amount and we had either a pension or could contribute to a 401k or stock options or similar. Big companies that treat their employees like shit will not offer retirement plans or if they do only to a select few people. Ah nothing like breeding contempt in the workplace!

Amway knows no boundaries! It breeds contempt all around the world!

But enough of talking about how Amway treats its employees like shit. I’m going the other direction with the “does Amway have a retirement plan” theory and applying it to the phony ass business owners who refer to themselves as IBO’s.

If there was a retirement plan in the traditional sense where the employee and/or the employer make regular contributions to some sort of retirement savings, then I don’t know nothing about it. I’m going out on a limb and saying such an Amway program does not exist because our sack of shit Platinum would have bragged about it endlessly if there was such a thing.

The Amway retirement program is something that IBO’s have to create themselves. How? Well by showing up for Amway meetings for the next 2 to 5 years, spending at least $300/month on shitty overpriced Amway products, attending every Amway meeting, attending every out of town Amway function, spending hours dealing with your Amway upline, subscribing to Communikate and WWDB premier membership (combined close to $100/month), etc, etc. And sometime in those 2 to 5 years the IBO will be rewarded by Amway sending them bazillions of dollars every month for the rest of their lives in the form of residual income. Easy! Being rewarded just by virtue of showing up and buying Amway products and tools. That in a nutshell is Amway’s retirement plan according to all the assholes in our upline.

Spending all that money on the Amway scam sounds like the IBO is funding the retirement program of the person who owns Amway and the Diamonds who are perched at the top of the pyramid. That’s where the money goes! It flows up. Not down.

The BEST Amway retirement plan is to quit Amway. I averaged out that it costs between $500 and $700/month to be an Amway IBO. Maybe higher for some people who get carried away buying Amway products and tools to impress their upline which only goes on for as long as there is room on the credit card. Take that $500/month and invest it in some kind of retirement savings plan. That money could be a down payment on a condo or house to be rented out. There’s monthly residual income right there and when the time is right sell it for a profit. Or $500/month could be invested in the stock market. The possibilities are endless where one can invest an extra $500 or more a month. And probably means having money ready for retirement either in the form of dividends, rent payments, or selling stocks.

Put simply, the more time you spend stuck inside the Amway pyramid scheme throwing your money away at the great Amway gods is less money that you can put towards your retirement goals.

When you’re in Amway all your disposable income must go to purchasing Amway products or investing in the Amway tool scam. There is no extra money to put towards retirement savings.

Be smart. Quit Amway and start funding your own retirement plan instead of making the fat cat bosses at Amway richer.

THERE IS NO RETIREMENT PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Stick with Amway = being broke by the time you are ready to retire.

Critical Mass Is Impending!

Critical mass is impending? Doom and gloom is upon us? Sounds like something has gone badly wrong in a break out sect of the Catholic church!

Critical mass was something we heard at Amway meetings. “Now is the time to get into Amway and start building your Amway business! The Amway business is exploding and now is the time to get in and collect the benefits of getting into Amway in time ($$$$$$$$$$) before we reach critical mass.” Blah blah blah. Something to that effect.

We were always told that we’d come “on board” at just the right time. “Now is the beginning of what is gearing up to be a huge increase in Internet sales of Amway products. Exciting changes are just about to happen in the Amway business. This is huge!”

Yup all the rah rah hype the cult leaders use to brainwash their followers.

I heard that same bullshit propaganda pitch over 10 years ago the first time we signed up for Amway! The only change between round one and round two was that we lost more money thanks to more Amway tools being on the scene - Communikate, WWDB premier membership, etc - and we had to invest more heavily into Amway’s tool scam.

To further punctuate that we’d gotten on board with Amway at just the right time when the Amway business is about to explode we were shown charts of how this trend was supposed to occur over the next few years with sales going up. This chart was part of the business plan flip cards that were shown at every Amway meeting.

The sack of shit Platinum used to flip the chart upside down and say those were the statistics of people who aren’t in Amway. Doomed not to have any savings and work a job until they were 65 years old at which time they’d automatically either die or be broke.

There might have been some changes in Amway but whether or not they’re exciting depends on whether or not you’re an ambot. Or married to one.

Once Ambot was immersed in the Amway cult these are the (not) exciting changes I observed in him:

1. he got into huge arguments with people he normally got along well with because they didn’t want to come to Scamway meetings
2. he sneered at people who had J.O.B.s and wouldn’t consider Amway a viable career choice
3. he was very rude to friends who weren’t interested in supporting his business by buying overpriced Amway products
4. he dropped whatever he was doing to respond to phone calls or text messages from the bastards in his upline who wanted him to haul his ass to wherever they were for whatever they deemed was more important
5. he quoted Amway speak constantly and parroted whatever his upline brainwashed him into repeating. Like just shut the fuck up! Nobody gives a shit about goddamned Amway! Notice how everybody avoids us and no one invites us over anymore?
6. he questioned everything I did and how it was making him money in his Amway business.
7. he had the brainwashed delusion that his upline sponsor was some sort of god only by virtue of the fact that he had brought him into the Amway cult and therefore we must lick his asshole
8. he became a slob around the house littering his Amway garbage wherever he happened to be and refused to put the consumed items containers into the garbage or recycling bin. Part of the Amway male chauvinist pig club’s teachings. The only use for women in the lives of Amway warriors is to pick up after them.
9. he used his previously debt free credit card for Amway related purchases including treating the entire upline out for meals and maxed it out buying Amway shit so he could impress the assholes in his upline.
10. he became increasingly agitated, argumentative, rude, and snobbish
11. he accused everyone with different points of view (from his upline) of being negative
12. have I mentioned how fucking OBNOXIOUS he was to anyone who didn’t share his view on how wonderful, amazing, etc etc the Amway cult is.

Yeah that was a real joy to live with! The ambot monster from Amway hell! Created by the fucking assholes in our upline. A frankenambot!

The changes since Ambot got out of the cult and away from being brainwashed by assholes like our sack of shit Platinum have been a lot more positive such as becoming a nice person again. Despite the upline’s bullshit claims that being in Amway makes you a nicer person - a tactic used to distract ambots from paying attention to the money they’re not making - I’m here to say that NO WAY  IN HELL does being an Amway IBO make someone a nicer person. As a brainwashed group of cult followers they might all put on a fake nicey nice act at Amway functions and seminars but in private they’re nasty, surly, unapproachable sorry excuses for human beings. Losing money in the Amway pyramid scheme can change a person’s personality and make them nasty demons. Dealing with the upline asshole cult leaders who brainwash IBO’s into thinking the reason they’re not succeeding in the Amway scam is because they’re not trying hard enough or because they’re losers is another part of belonging to this shitty MLM scam.

No matter what some lousy brainwashed asshole might say about how Amway brings exciting changes to people’s lives, I’m here to say watching someone getting brainwashed by the Amway cult is not an exciting change. Its a descent into hell.

Amway Ambot and the Shitmobile!

So it seems this Amway ambot sees a hot prospect in the form of a cute young lady. So he pretends to be interested in her like he wants to be her new boyfriend. He brags to her about how he's a business owner and tells her how much money he makes.

"Lets see your bank account statement." She asks him.

"Oh, no. That's private". He answers.

She has her doubts. Is this really a nice guy or is he a scam artist.

So he asks her out on a date. He says he's taking her to a BBQ and she should dress nice.

She's a little suspicious. Dress nice for a BBQ? Whats wrong with wearing shorts or jeans like normal people wear to BBQ's. Its not like its a formal event. But he tells her there are some people at this BBQ he wants to impress so she wears a nice dress.

He picks her up in this hunk of junk car.

"What's with the car? I thought you were a big time business owner making lots of money. Why are you driving a piece of shit like this."

"I'm investing my money back into my business. I'm buying my next car with cash so I have to save up."

Then she asks him why he's wearing a business suit and tie. I mean who dresses this guy. Too formal for a BBQ. He tells her this is how he always dresses because he dresses for success cause thats what his mentors told him to do and he explains that he is in a mentoring and leadership training type of business.

Even though she wonders what the fuck thats supposed to mean she gets in the car anyway. Then he confesses to her that they are really going to an Amway meeting and he's only pretending its a BBQ.

Now she's really pissed off. She's heard of that company. Words come to mind like pyramid scheme, scam, cult, overpriced products.

Could this day get any worse? But she kind of likes him so even though she's pissed she doesn't bitch too much about the Amway meeting. Fortunately for her she never gets there.

Watch this video to find out why.

Ha ha! Gotta have a good laugh going into the weekend!

Avoid Amway Scumbuckets or this will Happen to You Too!

A reader left a comment on a post I wrote last year. I thought it was an eye opener enough to deserve its own post because a lot of people might miss the post where he left the comment. Just more proof that no matter how high you climb the Amway pyramid the promised money is not there.

my wife ( now ex ) and I were double eagle rubies ., we won the diamond incentive award back in 1999( i think or 2000) anyway, everyone thought we were making money,, and we were....but mostly on tools,, and then on the bonus cheques...but most of all it was the yr end bonus chq that made a difference. however I was spending a ton of money travelling back east to work a let back there....loosing sleep. ,sleeping at airports..because I wanted to "do whatever it took" I have no regrets on doing what i did. however i do regret the type of person i became , just seeking attention and loving that other people would come around me at functions with their tape recorders wanting to know what i knew ( as if i was some guru) .. its not a humble ,walk soft type of business. at least not for my personality. The business is a good sound business. Its the people and the attitudes and the late nites and the people worshiping that was so so not right. and they say that anyone can build it. And i now do not agree...a shy, not aggressive person who has very limited funds and no desire to sell anything certainly can not build it...

I remember my upline bounced a bonus cheque on me when i was a 4000pv. and i still paid everone in my downline and no one reimbursed me for the bounced cheque...hmmm

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAKE UP CALL FOR ME RIGHT THERE....WTF !!

OK here’s my showing that I wasn’t paying attention at Amway cult meetings - like that’s a big surprise for any of my regular readers to hear!

I have no idea what is a double eagle ruby! I know there was an Eagle in my upline cocksucking son of a bitch that he was. Apparently he had 6 people in his downline. He sponsored our sponsor and for that reason alone I can’t stand the fucking little troublemaker. Our sack of shit Platinum was always bragging that the little cocksucker was going double eagle next month or within the next couple of months and then he’d be Platinum in 3 months. NOT!!!!! So I assume double eagle is 12 people in your downline. But I don’t know what the ruby part of anything is.

I also have no idea what a Diamond incentive is, though clearly former double eagle ruby got a lot further in “the business” than most ambots do.

Like other unfortunate victims of the Amway cult, it was the end of his marriage.

Let that be a lesson to all you couples out there considering getting involved in this pyramid scheme. The Amway scam business is more suited for single men with male chauvinist pig qualities. There is no place for women in the Amway good old boy’s club other than to support her husband.

This fellow lets us know several things of what its really like in the Amway business. First of all he’s reached a level where everyone thought he should be making money in Amway. I remember all those Scamway meetings I attended and the cult leader would be telling us that Platinums make $75,000/year, Emeralds make $125K and so on and higher and higher it goes. I’m not sure what the base mark income that the upline claims a double eagle ruby should be making but apparently it was another fable. However this is a level where he made money on tools and that was the bulk of the income plus a year end bonus check.

He spent a lot of money on travel expenses growing his business I suppose because the upline told him to do whatever it takes. Never question upline!

The biggest toll was Amway turned him into a person he did not like. He was becoming the person that I saw at functions. Money grubbing attention seekers who want to be worshipped by their cult followers.

This guy has some regrets which I have seen other former ambots exhibit too which is all part of the brainwashing process. Still brainwashed in some way after leaving Amway.  They still think Amway is a good business. They accept  that this is not the right business for them but don’t seem to accept that they’ve been scammed.

I like his honesty where he says you need a certain type personality to be in Amway and its not for everyone. People who are shy, not agressive, and don’t have unlimited funds should stay away from Amway.

Well everyone should stay away from Amway! Coming from someone who built this business once and apparently retired without seeing any of this fabled residual income rolling in forever, but still seems to think an Amway business is good for some people, he says its not for everyone.

Current ambots would just mock this fellow and say he didn’t try hard enough and taunt him that his wife left him because he wasn’t man enough for the Amway business.

Been there, heard it all. I know how those brainwashed Amway bastards think.

So much for the Amway meetings I attended where the cult leaders would tell the audience this business is so simple anyone can do it.

Upline bounced a check to him. No big surprise there. Our upline never had any money. Everyone upline up to the Platinum looked at my husband to provide refreshments for Amway meetings, buy snacks if they met at a coffee house, provide chairs, provide Amway motivational materials, etc, etc for everyone. When we tried to get our sponsor Captain Fuck Up to buy back the tools he declined saying he had no money. Big surprise there. Our upline had no problem violating Amway's policies particularly the one about how purchasing tools are optional and the upline is still obligated to help you build your Amway business and the upline is supposed to buy tools back if the IBO asks them to.

IF YOU DON"T BUY TOOLS THEN I WON'T WORK WITH YOU!!!! Heard that one at every Scamway meeting!

Here’s the thing. If someone writes you a bad check take it to the police and press fraud charges against the person and then file a claim against them in small claims court. I would not have hesitated to do that if anyone in our upline wrote us a bad check but then I didn’t like anyone in our upline. I assume this guy did like his upline and didn’t want to cause any problems for them.

His upline writing bad checks is all the proof we need that Amway IBO’s are liars, scammers, committing fraud, and breaking the law. Not to mention all round disreputable people. Everyone in Amway are identical ambots.

Avoid Amway scumbuckets at all costs! Or it will cost you lots of money and emotional distress!

Night of Hell - an Amway Cult Meeting

Here’s what a night of hell was for me when we were in the Amway cult.

Our organization was WWDB - World Wide Destructive Bastards. Our upline held meetings up to 3 times a week to tell lies about the Amway business and work on destroying marriages and families. Our cult leader started the Amway meetings around 8pm either at his house or at another IBO's house usually someone in our direct line though occasionally crossline.

Even though the cult meetings started at 8pm the Platinum told everyone that “serious business builders” always arrived at least an hour early, therefore my ambot had us arriving closer to 7pm. And how the hell would the Platinum know which cult followers showed up at 7 anyway because he wasn’t there? That would be because he has little ambot spies. Not always the person who lived at the residence where the meeting was held. You never knew who the spy was. Usually the Platinum’s henchman is the spy but not always if he wasn’t there. Sometimes the cult leader had him running other errands. So I’d say the spy was usually the fucking asshole who sponsored our sponsor - little slimy cocksucking son of a bitch that he is.

Prior to the main cult meeting, the Platinum usually held private meetings with ambots at a coffee shop where he goes over their budget, their phone list, or just generally ride their asses about how they could be doing better in “the business”. If the man was married the Platinum would convince them the reason they aren’t going anywhere in the Amway business is because of their wife and tell them the only way to succeed in Amway is if they leave their wife.

At the coffee shop counselling sessions the sack of shit Platinum expected one of the cult followers to purchase something for him to eat and drink and then drive him to the Amway meeting. However if they arrived at the house and no one of at least 1000 pin level was standing on the street to greet him, the driver had to circle the block a few times until someone who appreciated him showed up on the street. Need to show the cult leader a little more love!

So 8ish start. There are usually 10 to 15 IBOs at each meeting always the same people hearing the same bullshit they heard the night before at the last Amway cult meeting. Occasionally an ambot has hijacked a prospect to attend. The Platinum spends an hour talking about himself and his life - pompous sack of shit loves the sound of his own voice.

After an hour of bullshit the cult leader might say what he does for a business - ecommerce, runs an online business - but mostly a bunch of double talk for a good 15 minutes to half an hour because he gets distracted and goes off in a tangent. After the double talk he finally mentions the dreaded “A” word. Its like a swear word that can’t be said too often in front of this pack of goody 2 shoes. AMWAY! He starts using flash cards to present the Amway business plan. Basically eat, drink, and duplicate. Find enough people who do this and you can earn $300,000 a year.

This drags on for around 3 hours because the Platinum keeps getting sidetracked and goes off on various rants usually something negative happening in the news. The sack of shit loves spreading negativity thinking he can scare his ambots into compliance.

Its now 11pm and I want to go home, go to a bar, go to an all night folk music festival, anywhere but listening to the sack of shit Amway cult leader.

But it ain’t over yet! The “teaching” portion of the Amway cult leading begins after a short break so any guests or anyone who’s not a “serious business builder” can go home. If I can convince someone to give Ambot a ride home, I am outta there!

Unfortunately I’ve stayed for more than my share of Amway cult teachings. These meetings last another hour or two. Very typical for Amway cult meetings to last well past Midnight. The more tired the cult followers are the easier it is for the cult leader to brainwash their minds. Usually now is when the sack of shit Platinum rips into people about what changes they plan to make in their lives. “Oh yeah. I’m going to get divorced because you told me that’s the only way to succeed in the Amway business.” The sack of shit will criticize how the ambots dress, the car they drive, their haircut, the people they hang out with, etc. Mostly he criticizes the group for not sponsoring anyone or bringing prospects to meetings. He’ll talk about the movers and shakers in his downline and sing their praises for the rest of the meeting gabbing on about how those are the people going Platinum, going Diamond. Next month! Within 3 months for sure! Including him. Bypass Emerald and go Diamond! 

Not so far! Some of those dumb ass ambots are still in Amway several years after we quit! Stuck at the same level or dropped. Its hard to motivate people to keep buying Amway products and investing in the tool scam once the credit card is maxed out.

No “teaching”. Lots of rants. That pretty much sums up the Amway meetings the Ambot dragged me along to.

Ambots bragging about Amway Tax Refunds

I had an ambot show up to leave a comment on this post:

http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2011/06/who-is-nelsen-of-infamous-wwdb-amway.html

LOL... she lost $35 000 in 11 years, that's just shy of $3200 a year... you all understand this is a product business and despite what you think about the business structure the products themselves are very rarely second to none. Even a deaf mute could sell enough product in amway to profit $3200 a year to cover those expenses, not to mention the tax return money if you even keep half assed books. I love how she fails to mention how much money she made from selling products and tax return income for running a home based business.... and if she didn't make her money back from sales volume and tax return, then I do not feel sorry for her.... she was just lazy and I know how much you all Love to hear that!

For a moment let’s try to put aside the canned Amspeak bullshit. This is typical of most comments that ambots leave on my blog.

Today’s post is about the part of this comment where the ambot mentions getting a tax return income based on running your Amway business. Seeing as how tax time is coming upon us I thought I’d revisit this whole get-a-tax-refund-if-you’re-in-Amway that is widely promoted by the Amway cult leaders.

This was the type of tax advice our Amway upline gave us that everything in Amway is a tax deduction and as this ambot clarified - they count Amway tax returns as part of an IBO income. What the upline really means is the only way an IBO can make money in Amway is to deduct Amway expenses from the income they earn in their real J.O.B and the only Amway income comes in the form of a tax refund. Our upline told us we’d get a big tax refund deducting all our Amway expenses - legitimate or not.

At Amway meetings I attended the Platinum and pretty much everyone else in the room would be bragging how things couldn’t be better and their business is growing. Then these same IBO’s claim they’re getting a large refund after filing their income taxes.

My Ambot was fascinated. He had no idea the secret to getting a tax refund - according to our upline - was to become an Amway IBO. Free money from the government!

Refund? Ha, that’s a laugh when your business is doing good.

Ambots can not grasp this concept.

If your business makes too much money (income) and you don’t have enough deductions (expenses) you owe money at tax time. Yay! Business is going great!

If you do not make much money and your expenses are higher that your income then the government issues you a refund. Boo! Business is the shits!

In other words it is pretty much impossible for an IBO to claim business is going great and they’re making lots of money and then talk out of the other side of their mouth about how they’re getting a big tax refund. Or as ambots refer to it: tax return income for running an Amway business.

Most Amway IBO’s in addition to being fake business owners work a dreaded J.O.B. and are employed by a company and receive regular paychecks. When tax time comes around those sneaky Amway bastards deduct all their Amway expenses (XS, Perfect Water, vitamins, food bars, hotels, function tickets, meals, travel, etc) against their job’s income.

That is the only way most IBO’s make money in Amway. By declaring everything they spend on Amway as a business expense and deducting it off their job’s income.

Lying little ambot bastards that they are! Tax cheaters!

Here is a big clue ambots! Unless you own a grocery store, items that you eat (groceries!) can not be deducted as business expenses in order to get a tax refund. When you’re an Amway IBO if you’re declaring travel and restaurant expenses on your taxes you better be showing some kind of Amway income profit on selling Amway products. If Uncle Sam catches up with you you’ll be up shit creek!

My husband and I run a legitimate business. We have a tax number. We have business license. We have insurance. We have accounting software where we create client invoices, and enter all monies received from clients and all monies we paid out in the course of running our business. We have legitimate business expenses that can be used as deductions. We back it all up on a CD and give it to our accountant at tax time. This is because we’re smart enough to hire the services of a professional who checks we entered everything correctly and aren’t missing information and ensures we are not leaving ourselves exposed and who also does their damnedest to make sure they write off as many expenses as they legitimately can so that we have less money to pay back to the government in what we owe in taxes.

Sure the hell beats “counselling with upline” and being told everything in Amway (XS, Perfect Water, vitamins, laundry soap, cleaning products, etc) is a legitimate business deduction!

For the record - our accountant disagreed with our Amway upline! Refused to handle anything Amway related saying “I deal with legitimate businesses not pyramid schemes.”

So much for “never question upline”!

If you are running a pretend Amway business and are taking your upline’s advice on filling out your taxes so that you can earn your money in Amway courtesy of a government tax refund check be prepared to end up in big shit in an audit.

When we were in Amway we were told if nothing else Amway is a good tax shelter. The taxman might disagree. Here is some more interesting reading:

IRS to Amway: The Party’s Over!

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/conspiracy/amwaybush5.shtml

IRS answers for business or hobby and deductions. http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=169490,00.html

Peter Reilly’s blog post about Amway IBO’s in tax court.

http://riles52.blogspot.com/2011/06/selling-soap-as-hobby-amway-ibos-in-tax.html

Another post by Peter Reilly about taxes and Amway. This one is kind of interesting if you go to the comments. In typical ambot fashion anytime posts like this surface on the Internet the Amway rats scramble out of the sewer to battle the truth by coming out swinging with false accusations in a bizzare attempt to create distractions away from the truth about Amway. The first ambot who posts a response accuses Mr Reilly of murdering his mother!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2011/07/26/drag-racing-and-amway-fun-not-profit/

The Amway Male Chauvinist Pig Club

The first time we were in WWDB Amway I didn’t get the impression that I was around a bunch of male chauvinist pigs. Between round 1 and 2 Amway had changed in the few years since we’d be in - and for the worst. The 2nd time I was immersed in a WWDB Amway cult that was plugged full of male chauvinist pig asshole ambots brainwashed to think this way by the great Amway cult leaders.

“Don't you want your wife to come home from work and be there for your children?”

That was one of the “lines” that our Platinum used to tell us to use when prospecting for new IBO’s.

There’s a sexist comment. Who says that all wives have - or want - children? Maybe they don’t want neither - no outside job, no children. Who’s to say that women who stay home MUST have children? Our sack of shit Platinum, that’s who. Male chauvinist pig!

Likewise who says that all wives want to come home from work? Maybe the wife doesn’t want to come home from work and is happy with her job so stop forcing that male chauvinist pig bullshit on her.

I should clarify here that with normal people who are not in the Amway cult just because a husband doesn’t want or need his wife to work a job and prefers she stay home doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a male chauvinist pig. Many men have good incomes and the family can live comfortably off the one income. In this day and age women still do not get paid what they’re worth and earn less than their male counterparts. Sometimes it doesn’t make financial sense for a woman to keep working. Sometimes her job is too stressful and the man should do whatever he can to help her quit her job so she can stay at home.

And equally the other way around too. Sometimes the woman has the better paying job and the husband would rather stay at home. Either way, whatever. Whichever one is staying at home taking care of the house and children or staying at home watching soap operas on TV doesn’t matter. Its a decision a couple makes together.

Don’t need no fucked up Amway upline telling them how they should be doing it. According to the cult leaders the Amway way is the only right way to do it and that is for the woman to quit her job first.

Our sack of shit Platinum takes women for granted. He doesn’t even put his wife first in his life. She got one upped by God. Actually they both got one upped by Amway. Somehow his house gets cleaned, the laundry gets done, the garbage gets taken out, the lawn is mowed, the garden is weeded, meals get cooked, the cookie jar is full, etc. Does he think some magical fairy is running around taking care of all of this?

His wife hasn’t worked a job in years. And he thinks thats something to brag about? Like he’s the first man in all of history whose wife does not work.

I get ambots stopping by my blog to leave their canned amspeak comments. These bastards are outraged that someone is out there telling the truth about what its like being inside the Amway cult. How dare any former cult member betray the cult! If enough people get the word out then they’ll have an even worse time signing up new recruits. In almost every comment left for me I get accused of being a selfish negative unchristian dream stealer who doesn’t want to see my husband’s dreams come true.

What the fuck! There it is with the Amway male chauvinist pig lingo again. Those Amway assholes and the good old boys club. Its all about the men. Its all about the husband’s dream.

Those Amway male chauvinist pigs refuse to accept that the wife might have dreams too. And if she does too fucking bad. Wives dreams are insignificant and should be ignored.

Its all about the man! Its all about the husband. Its all about going along with what he wants. Serve and obey. Fucking male chauvinist pig Amway assholes. That attitude went out the window about 100 years ago. Brought back to life in recent years by the good old Amway male chauvinist pig club. No wonder WWDB stands for World Wide Destructive Bastards - out to destroy marriages and families. Brainwashed ambots!

A lot of times a wife has different dreams than her husband. Sure they’ll have some dreams they share, always nice to have some things in common with your significant other, but some dreams will be different. Perhaps the wife dreams of being a prima ballerina but the husband has no interest in putting on a tutu and prancing around a stage. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t support her in her dream. Support can take different forms - financial or emotional or showing up and being there.

Maybe the husband’s dream is to become a skydiver. The wife does not like planes, does not like heights, and sees no point in jumping out of a perfectly good plane and hoping the parachute opens before you hit the earth. Maybe she’ll buy him a parachute jump for his birthday. So she supports him financially in his dream and maybe emotionally. Hard to say. If a wife has fears of jumping out of a plane she’s probably none too happy that her husband is jumping.

Kind of like Amway. If a wife has no interest in belonging to a cult and losing money and being brainwashed she ain’t none too happy that her husband is doing it.

The Amway male chauvinist pig club is all about getting the wife home from her job only because the upline says so not because the husband and wife have come to this decision together. The Amway male chauvinist pig club also says to make the husband’s dreams come true because whatever separate dreams the wife has are insignificant compared to her husband’s and don’t matter.

That’s the Amway male chauvinist pig club hard at work destroying marriages.

The wife has a better chance of retiring early and coming home first only if they are not frittering their money away on the Amway scam.

Here’s another good time to send out another fuck you to our former sack of shit Platinum for his fucked up Amway values that he forces on his victims.

Amway IBO misses cruise ship?

So this Amway IBO is on a cruise and is pissing off everyone on the boat prospecting them. Try to enjoy your lobster and steak and some lousy ambot is sniping prospects in the grand dining room. The ship stops at this port and the ambot is hustling the locals trying to show them the Amway board plan instead of going sightseeing or shopping. He’s so busy begging the locals to sign up for Amway that he’s not watching the time. Oops cruise ship is supposed to leave at 4pm and its now 4:10. Well he has nothing to worry about. He’s an Amway IBO and that means he’s better than everyone else and has a sense of entitlement. The ship will wait for him because he’s in Amway.

Or will it?

Meanwhile up on the bridge the ship’s crew are watching this dumb ass ambot running down the dock. One of them begs the captain to pick him up and says “that’s my upline Platinum cult leader. If he doesn’t get on the ship he’ll destroy my marriage.”

The captain says “that lying sack of shit sold me Double X vitamins for 80 bucks and told me they were good for sex. They didn’t do piss all good. Fuck him. I ain’t turning this old tub around. He can find another way home!”

Look! I got Prospected by Email from an Ambot! Scamway!

Dear Friend,
　
be informed that you have $5,000,000,00 million united states dollars Lodged in our Western Union to transfer to you as Compensation. Contact Mr.Collins Moore Via email : mr.collins_moore@teman.zikri.com Tel: +2348154274617.


Wow! I'm so happy this Amway IBO has found me with the promise of Financial freedom! Millions of dollars to be made in Amway! I can quit that J.O.B. that I don't have and walk the beaches of the world with the Amway scammers! Peter Island here I come!

Helpful Links

From time to time I’ve brought up links to items that are useful to people searching for answers about Amway. Recently a few links have come up again in the comments section so for anyone that missed some of these or any new readers, these might be useful reading and listening.

Merchants of Deception was written by former Emerald Eric Scheibeler. He talks about the brainwashing and how he only earned about $35,000/year when he was at a level where he expected to be earning at least 100k based on Amway propaganda and what he’d heard from Diamond speakers. He uncovered the real money to be made in Amway was the sale of motivational materials - books, tapes/CDs, and speaking at functions. Its a really chilling read at times. Everything he said about Amway meetings I heard the same thing too. I could have been there. What he described was what I’d experienced. And most importantly he tells how 99% of IBOs will never make money in Amway. Reading it shows the lies that were told to us were the same lies he heard and the realization that no matter how hard we tried to make money at Amway, it just ain’t possible.

http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/

A few years ago NBC Dateline exposed the Amway scam. They covered the brainwashing and showed scenes at arenas that show this cult in action. They catch IBO’s lying - not that that’s difficult! They all lie! The above author Eric Scheibeler is interviewed for this TV show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot31XhgE_XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4-34V75SQ

Steve Hassan has helped deprogram former Amway cult members and members of other mind control cults as well. There is a 2 part interview on Youtube about the Amway cult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApMzIX46kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2kQii3WC9Y

Pyramid Scheme alert has resources and they deal with all pyramid schemes, not just Amway.

http://pyramidschemealert.org/

Here’s a link to some WWDB/Amway bullshit propaganda. All the circles and double back talk about how much money you “could” earn in Amway if you find a few people who can duplicate what you do and they find a few people and so on and so on and they include as part of your earnings a potential savings of a couple hundred bucks - difference between Amway retail and wholesale - if you buy around $600 worth of shitty overpriced Amway products. In small print you will see the actual percentage of people earning money - a fraction of 1% of IBO’s.

http://www.cviko.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/BusinessOverview1.pdf

If some scheming lying ambot tells you that Amway has the best possible BBB rating, send them to Amway’s web page with the rules of conduct that state the BBB doesn’t allow its names used as an endorsement of products and services and that IBO’s are not allowed to represent to anyone either orally or in writing that Amway’s products and services are endorsed by the BBB. Gee how many times have I seen an ambot leave a comment on my blog bragging about Amway’s fabled BBB rating! Little bastards breaking their beloved companys rules! Oh well. What else is new. Its all about being a lying scamming Amway asshole and trying to impress others with phony claims. Like who gives a flying fuck! The BBB is there to help consumers who get ripped off by companies like Amway! They don’t endorse companies. And how does an Amway IBO respond when faced with the truth? “Oh but I’m a fucking Amway loser ambot. I can do and say whatever I want.” And then they go into hiding. At just about every Amway meeting I attended our cult leaders would break Amway’s rules and brag about how much the BBB loves Amway.

http://www.amway.com/en/support/business-support/Business-rules-of-conduct

Amway Double X is Good For Sex?

OK! Who would do a search for “Amway Double X is good for sex”?

After I noticed someone ended up on my blog looking for answers to that all important question it gave me a good laugh and then I had to sit back and think what kind of person is hitting Google with that kind of search. This has gotta be some deprived man. I just can not see a woman doing that kind of search!

Because all women know the answer to that question - chocolate!

What the hell are the cult leaders teaching from the stage these days? WWDB - World Wide Destructive Bastards - were a bunch of prudes so sex never came up in any meetings I attended. Whether or not it came up when ambots counselled with upline, I’m going out on a limb here and saying yes. They were probably told no sex until they reached Platinum because it would distract them away from the task of sniping prospects to come to Amway board plan meetings and signing up new IBOs and finding customers to buy overpriced shitty products.

When you’re in Amway and hustling from one meeting to another and hustling people to join the scam there is no time for sex anyway so why would an ambot care if Double X is good for sex. It makes for a good nursery rhyme thats for sure!

Double X is good for NOTHING! It is an overpriced expensive piece of shit vitamin that costs Amway about $10 to produce including the packaging and they sell it to the brainwashed masses for just under $80 for a one month supply! Rip off! Rip off! Rip off!

I just checked Walmart’s website for a daily complete vitamin and Equate Mature costs $10 for a bottle of 220 pills.

OK people. Instead of gobbling vitamins how about just eating a sensible well balanced diet and you probably don’t need to take any supplements unless your doctor has done a blood test on you and notices your body is lacking in something and tells you to take it.

Come on man. Instead of doing a dumb ass search on the Internet about Double X good for sex just go to the grocery store and look for a magazine that has a cover story about the top 10 foods to boost your sex life and buy that instead. Cheaper to buy a magazine and some chocolate coated strawberries than Double X which ain’t good for sex!

Unless your problems are deeper than that. Keep an eye on your email’s inbox and turn off the spam filter. I know if I keep getting emails to enlarge body parts I don’t possess then everybody else must be getting them too! Cheaper than Double X and will probably give you the same results that Double X will give you for sex. Zippo! 

You ambots need to get a clue. If your significant other has cut you off it has something to do with them being pissed off that you are spending all your time with other Amway cult followers and spending all your money on overpriced shitty Amway products.

Your answer does not lie in buying Double X and hoping its good for sex.

In fact spending more money on useless Double X will likely be very bad for sex.

Instead of doing a search on Valentines Day about Double X being good for sex, the best thing you can do is quit the Amway cult. That will probably be better for sex than Double X!

And now that I’ve got all these wonderful keywords in this post I’m probably going to have this guy visit my blog again real soon! And reel in a few more sucker IBO’s with the same problem!

You Didn’t Try Hard Enough!

“You didn’t try hard enough!” Is the battle cry of brainwashed ambots.

I’ve heard it lots of times. At Amway meetings and especially since I’ve been writing this blog. Some brainwashed ambot who has been religiously studying at Amspeak College shows up to accuse me of not trying hard enough.

However not one single ambot who I know personally or who enjoys reading and commenting on “negative” blogs like mine has ever once defined the criteria of what is “trying hard enough”. Or for that matter what “not trying hard enough” is either.

My ambot husband wanted to succeed at this Amway business, even though the odds - with a 99% failure rate - were stacked against him that he wouldn't. More than the promised financial freedom with the gazillions of dollars in residual income that would magically show up each month in our bank account, success in Amway would mean basking in the bliss from the Amway cult leaders that he adored so much.

All over the Internet are blogs and forums from former Amway IBO’s who say pretty much the same thing. They worked hard, put a lot of hours and effort into building an Amway business, and despite doing everything their cult leaders told them to do and being CORE it didn’t work out.

Similar to the ambot battle cry of not trying hard enough that is also the same flimsy accusation they fling out at former IBO’s who didn’t sponsor anyone - because they didn’t try hard enough.

Some Amway IBO’s sign up due to pressure from whoever the recruiting ambot is - more than likely a family member or good friend. Anyone else and they would have probably told the ambots to go fuck themselves. These unwilling IBO’s paid their $150, got their start up kit, and that was the extent of their Amway involvement. They never had no intention of putting in any work, just wanted to help out the person who hounded them into signing up and get them off their back. Those are not the same people who get the word out on the Internet about how they were scammed into the Amway cult and tell their story of what really happens when you’re an Amway IBO because they really have no idea what happens if their only involvement was paying the registration fee and telling the sponsor to fuck off and leave them alone.

My Ambot worked hard and put in plenty of effort to build an Amway business. He spent hours glued to the computer taking the Amway university program. He spent hours studying the Amway literature and product magazines. He memorized everything. He could answer questions about the Amway board plan or Amway products and knew as much or more than his upline. He spent hours listening to tapes. Oh fuck. Make that CDs! Every time I say tapes instead of CDs IBOFB shits his diapers and demands to know where I found tapes from since no one’s made them forever! Ambot read books that his upline pressured him to buy. He spent many hours each week hounding prospects to come to meetings. He went to every Amway meeting, rally, seminar, and major function. All those meetings ate up at least 50 hours a month and if a major function out of state for the weekend was in there, easily over 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings including travelling to them.

Let’s not forget the hours each week he spent talking on the phone and dealing with the endless text messages from the fucking upline assholes.

Ambot easily doubled, if not tripled, Amway’s estimate of 10 to 15 hours per week once all the meetings, listening to tapes, and studying Amway is added up.

Ambot put in plenty of time and effort and his upline still rode his ass accusing him of not working hard enough. He was told the reason he wasn’t succeeding at the Amway business was because he was lazy and not trying hard enough.

Let’s see. Someone investing at least 100 hours a month into any project is not a lazy person. They are on a mission and determined to succeed and accomplish their goal even when the odds are stacked against them, like Amway’s success rate of making around 100k/year is a fraction of less than 1%.

Uh dumb ass ambot husband. That’s less money than you make with your legitimate business. And more hours invested in Amway than your legitimate business. You going backwards just because you’ve been brainwashed by some lousy fucked up Amway cult leaders?

What kind of motivation techniques is the upline using accusing people of being lazy, not trying, not working hard enough? This is clearly more than my Ambot’s upline because so many former IBO’s have the same story that their upline said the exact same thing. And clearly is still being taught today judging by its pretty much in every comment left on my blog by some angry brainwashed ambot.

“Didn’t try hard enough!”

Yeah? Well fuck you!

What exactly is the definition of “trying hard enough” when it comes to Amway? Clearly it is spending more than 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings, functions, prospecting, etc. It is clearly spending more than $1000/month on Amway and Amway tools like my ambot husband.

And how does the fucking Amway upline motivate their cult followers to keep trying? Oh wait. Those bastards do not motivate. They brainwash. Like the good Amway cult leaders they have been trained to be, they scold, they mock, they punish, they blame. Even more than wanting to succeed at an Amway business, the followers want to please their leader. They try harder, they put in more effort like 100 hours a month wasn’t already trying hard enough. The ambots are scolded and belittled time after time when they don’t get results. The Amway cult leaders blame the ambots for their own lack of success.

Never blame the Amway system designed for failure and Amway tools and overpriced Amway products. Blame the ambots instead! They didn’t try hard enough.

Fortunately, many IBO’s get tired of this degrading treatment and quit “the business”. Now the only thing they have to do is try hard enough to keep one step ahead of their Amway upline who will be hopping mad that they have lost this stream of income.

Don’t Smash My Alarm Clock!

One of the bullshit things we used to hear at every Amway meeting were stories about how ambots were becoming financially free and about the last morning they had to wake up and go to work for the man.

They all have the same story. They are always men - but then what else do you expect from the Amway good old boys club but a bunch of male chauvinist pigs. They’re all sitting at their desk getting their work done. Then their wife walks in and says its time. Apparently this was not something preplanned. The wife decided on it on the spur of the moment an hour or two earlier. Then they both go in to see the boss and tell him to stick his job where the sun don’t shine. Then they walk out of the hated company and away from the hated J.O.B. hand in hand gloating at the coworkers watching them. Standing outside are all the members of their Scamway team. What? None of those fuckers didn’t have jobs they had to be at? There is always a limousine waiting outside. The husband and wife get into it and it always takes them straight home. Oh come on use some imagination here. There is probably at least a 2 hour minimum on renting a limo. You could just ask the chauffeur to drive around and have sex back there. But no. They all want to go home. And what is the first thing they do when they get home? They smash the alarm clock! They will never have to wake up to an alarm clock ever again. Especially not now that its been smashed to smithereens. They can wake up when they’re done sleeping!

And everyone in the upline has the same bullshit story. It never changes. Sudden epiphany at work to quit and walk out. Cult followers outside cheering the ambot on for quitting. Limo. Smash alarm clock.

First a couple of irregularities I see in this often told story.

Conceivably the husband drove a car to work. He leaves in a limo. What’s he going to do about his car? I realize its probably one of those clunker ambot shitmobiles that’s always breaking down but presumably the boss ain’t going to be too happy about the car being abandoned there. Boss calls tow truck. Ambot gets ticket to pay for towing and storage fees. Refuses to pay. Car goes to auction. Tow company leaves bad rating on ambot’s credit report.

And who has an alarm clock anymore? Didn’t they go out in the 70’s when clock radios became all the fashion?

The sack of shit Platinum taunted us about this tale and didn’t we want it too?

Lets see. I haven’t worked for anyone in years. So what am I supposed to do? Go into the bathroom and stare myself down in the mirror and say I quit. Fuck you. I should line up all my Barbie doll collection as my pretend coworkers so they can all catch this magical moment. I stomp out of my house and there’s the limo. Who called and paid for this sucker? Hmm. Scenic drive for a couple of hours and then bring me back home? The street is lined with clunkers belonging to ambots who must have all called in sick today so they can come over to my house and watch this magical moment as I tell myself I quit and I’m never going to work for myself again. I really hesitate to take a sledge hammer to my clock radio. It works just fine. It will be a mess to clean up. And what happens when I want to listen to music in the evening and can’t find my iPod.

And the next morning I can wake up when I’m done sleeping! Well shit. What fun is that? I already do that. Been doing it for years. I’m usually done sleeping around 8am. Kind of an internal alarm clock. Yeppers. I do not set the alarm on my clock radio unless there is something specific I have to be up early for which usually involves getting myself or someone else to the airport. And I’m very talented, probably much more so than those ambots with the smashed up old fashioned alarm clocks. Yesterday I was done sleeping twice. Yes! Twice! Lets see an ambot try that one! The first time I was done sleeping around 5am. I woke up thinking about something I had to do, went into the office, powered on the computer, left a note for myself so I wouldn’t forget then I went back to bed. The next time I was done sleeping was at 9:45am.

I want to make sure everyone knows you don’t have to be a scamming Amway IBO to tell your boss you quit. Anyone at any time can tell the boss fuck you I’m outta here. You also don’t need to be quitting your job to hire a limousine. People hire them all the time for all kinds of different occasions. They have different prices depends on if you take a regular sized limousines or if you like one of those stretch SUV kinds and where you’re going or how long you need to use it. The limousine businesses will take money from anyone, they’re not exclusive to ambots!

Anyway I guess it makes a nice fairy tale for the Amway cult followers. Those bastards need to update their story to keep up with the times though. We are coming up on a generation who will have no idea what is an alarm clock.

Huh? What is a typewriter?

Bring Prospects or Be Abused

At every Amway meeting the Platinum cult leader would ride all the IBO’s asses about being failures because no one was bringing new prospects to the meetings.

Well that’s what happens when you’re part of a pyramid scheme. Its not easy finding people open-minded to being ripped off!

Ambot spent hours each week trying to convince friends, family, and people he’d just met to come to a meeting. Infrequently after a few hours of being hounded, someone would break down and agree to see the board plan, but then they wouldn’t show up and spend weeks or months avoiding calls from Ambot.

Years later one of our formerly good friends still refuses to have anything to do with us thanks to the Amway. He actually came out and met some ambots and didn’t like them. Join the club!

I had stopped going to Amway meetings. I refused to show up anywhere that the fucking asshole Platinum was going to be. Horrible evil cult leader that he was spreading negativity, draining the bank accounts of people beneath him in the Amway pyramid, and destroying relationships. Yeah just the kind of sack of shit everyone wants to have in their lives! The day that bastard rots in hell can’t come soon enough for me!

Ambot had been hounding a friend for months to come an Amway cult meeting and our friend had been putting him off one excuse after another. Well no kidding. The only people who want to go to Amway meetings are ambots. People who don’t want anything to do with the Amway cult are not interested. It was no big surprise that our friend failed to show up at our house and go with Ambot to the Amway cult meeting. He wouldn’t answer his phone either when Ambot called to find out where he was. The 8 o clock Amway witching hour was nearing and the guest Ambot had bragged to everyone he was bringing was MIA. Ambot begged me to accompany him so I gave in and for the first time in about 6 months I went to the cult meeting.

By this time I had done research into the Amway cult and was reading first hand accounts of other Amway victims. They all had the same story we had. Their cult leaders told the same lies I heard. Some former cult followers had suffered severe financial losses including bankruptcy and houses being foreclosed. Some marriages had disintegrated. Forearmed is forewarned. I caught the cult leader in all kinds of lies.

A meeting room had been booked at a local hotel and the upline Emerald was the speaker. Everyone had to fork over $10 to the cult leader to show up and be lied to. We came in and sat down. We watched the Platinum sack of shit circulate the room greeting people. He avoided saying hi to us even though he walked right past us a number of times seeing as how we’d chosen aisle seats. Snubbing us! Like I give a shit that someone I don’t like won’t talk to us. Oddly enough Ambot began to chuckle and I asked him what was so funny.

“He’s refusing to talk to us because I didn’t bring anyone to the meeting.”

That was the cult leader’s way of punishing the downline. Refusal to acknowledge them. Ostracization. Shunning.

I was happy with that. We don’t often get that lucky that the pompous sack of shit doesn’t want to talk to us.

So fuck you asshole. It really hurts my feelings when you won’t talk to me. NOT!!!!!

Where’s Your Name List?

Our upline told Ambot and I to gather a name list of everyone we know. To help us out they gave us a prompt sheet to use to help jog our memory that we know more people than we think we know. The people we know that we don’t know that we already know. This prompt list consisted of friends, family, the cashier at the gas station, the mailman, the garbageman, etc. I don’t really remember the suggestions on the list. I wasn’t too enthused about working on a list. A list of people on an Amway ambot list meant those people were doomed to be harrassed to come to Amway meetings, be scammed into signing up to be an IBO, or be pressured into buying useless overpriced shitty Amway products. I decided to be difficult and only listed people I knew who Ambot also knew so that left out a lot of people I went to school with and former coworkers from before we met.

The big problem when getting involved in Amway for a second time is that we had already pestered everyone we knew the last time around to attend an Amway meeting or buy Amway products. Any names on our list would be tortured again to be shown a board plan.

Our Platinum bragged he had 1000 people on his list at any time. Sure enough he showed us his notebook and pages and pages of names many with notations written beside them. He suggested using Facebook to make new friends and then snipe the friends of Facebook friends and put them on your list. Conceivably you could have hundreds of people on your Amway name list and not know any of them in person. Within the first couple of weeks of signing up for Amway Ambot and I came up with a list of over 200 people that he showed to the Platinum.

Now its one thing to come up with a list of a bunch of people that you might see casually during a month. Its another thing to actually have their phone numbers or know them well enough to ask for their number. I mean how many people snipe the water meter reader and ask for his home number. All Ambots raise your hands! What about when I’m at Starbucks. Its one thing to ask my favorite barista to make me a triple venti raspberry mocha with an extra shot of espresso and whipped cream and another to ask for her phone number.

I think Ambot put down the names of every former co-worker he ever had even though he didn’t keep in touch with them nor knew how to get in contact with them.

So we had this list of names of people we were supposed to bug to come to Amway meetings. I suppose from time to time Ambot looked at it and called someone whose number he actually had to harrass them into coming to an Amway meeting. Not too much we can do about the people on our name list whose phone numbers we don’t know. Even though we and other IBO’s were told to make the list and show it to the Platinum as proof we’d done it no one upline ever talked about the list afterwards or referred to that list again or asked if we were contacting any of the people on our name list.

In other words one of the first things the upline had us do was create a list of names of people we knew, then make notations if they were hot or cold as prospects and then they didn’t particularly care if we were contacting these people.

It was more important for the upline to badger their downline to buy more products and buy more tools than to follow up on their name list and what exactly they're accomplishing with the name list. Or at least in our WWDB group. Lousy phony ass leadership training program that it was - better known as World Wide Destructive Bastards due to its main training of destroying relationships of their ambots if they had a significant other who was not interested in wasting their money in this scam.

After we were long gone from the Amway cult I figured it out with a little help from former IBO’s. The name list is to give the IBO hope. Even though the IBO is not having any luck persuading prospects to come to an Amway meeting or finding customer to buy overpriced shitty Amway products as long as there are still names left on the list then there is hope. Hope that there is still a fleeting chance of signing up a downline. Hope that there is still a chance of finding a customer to pay too much money for an Amway product instead of shopping at their grocery store for a better product at a better price.

Sell the hope! Not the soap!

How Can You Be So Dumb To Quit Amway?

A recent searcher - clearly a dumb ass brainwashed Amway IBO - recently found their way to my blog after doing a search for “how can you be so dumb to quit Amway”.

They ended up at this post http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2011/11/amway-is-best-business-opportunity-in.html where I wrote that if you are an Amway IBO then you probably have been brainwashed to believe that Amway is the best business opportunity in the world. I figured for sure the ambot was going to leave me some canned Amspeak words of bullshit but they must have seen their predecessor on the receiving end of some Anna Banana style punishment and quietly moved along.

Amway cult leaders prey on all kinds of people usually disadvantaged but one of their best prospects are working people who do not like their jobs. These people might detest their jobs but have not been able to secure employment elsewhere due to lack of skills, age, transportation, etc. They believe there is nothing else out there for them. They are good prospects because Amway cult leaders know these people have an income and possibly credit cards and can bullshit them along in the Amway scam for a while and get them to buy Amway products and tools. They pump these people up telling them they now own their own business. At the same time the cult leaders poison these workers against their jobs by sneering at them because they have a J.O.B. - Just Over Broke - and that’s all they’ll ever be unless they’re an Amway “Independent Business Owner”. The brainwashing is not complete until the ambot believes that they are better than everyone else because they are in Amway and everyone else who is not in Amway is a loser. A broke loser. And anyone who quits Amway is a loser and a quitter and their dream wasn’t big enough. Ambots have negative bad attitudes and one way or another they’re not going to last much longer at their detested job anyway. But for a brief period they fully believe that Amway is the only thing out there for them to escape a job they dislike.

The bigger question is “how can you be so dumb to stay in Amway?”

The Amway pyramid scheme only makes money for the people at the top of the pyramid - Diamonds - who make the bulk of their income from selling motivational CDs and books and selling tickets to functions where they speak at. They make commission every time an IBO in their downline purchases Amway products. Chump change compared to the income from the tool scam. Amway’s own literature shows that less than 1% of IBO’s will make money at this business. That’s over 99% failure rate. Most people are not dumb enough to get into any business with a huge failure rate. That’s where the cult leaders come in to brainwash the ambots into believing they will be that longshot who actually makes money at Amway and that the figures Amway puts out are a worse case scenario and that in 6 months you’ll be making 100k. Sell the hope not the soap!

If an ambot is dumb enough to stick it out in Amway for any length of time they will undoubtedly go into debt of some sort - either credit cards or bank loans. They may have their house foreclosed after skipping a few mortgage payments after counselling with upline who advised them to skip payment and use the money to go to an Amway function instead. Dumb move wondering every morning when they wake up if today is the day they’ll be evicted thanks to Amway. Bankruptcy is the next possibility. And because most marriages can’t withstand this kind of stress the next step will be divorce.

The people who quit Amway are not the dumb ones. The Amway quitters are smart and brave and have probably averted certain disaster that many ambots fall victim to.