Monday, January 20, 2014

Life Is Hell With An Amway Ambot

A reader tells us about life with an ambot boyfriend.
 

My boyfriend joined amway over the summer and has increasingly become defensive about it when I mention that it's weird and how I refuse to join. This is the only thing we fight about and I avoid talking about it at all costs! He's now starting to find negative things that come out of my mouth. One time I yelled at him about it and he apologized and said I wasn't negative. But he'll ask me to join. This last time we fought he told me that if I said no this time, he'll leave me alone about joining. He hasn't mentioned it since but I'm scared that this will come up again. He promised he'd never leave me for this and because of this and tht I'm being too paranoid. I don't show any support for this. He's actually in the process of applying for real corporate jobs and I'm praying that this is my only hope in him waking up and realizing its a scam. When people ask him "what do you do for a living?" He mentions NOTHiNG about it and says he's looking for a job, and if someone asks him about why he's been out of town for a "conference" he says "it's for a little side thing I'm doing." ... Those are SOME good signs but I'm having anxiety attacks when he goes to their weekly brainwash sessions and when he's at a conference. I'm walking on thin ice. If I don't show support for amway maybe he can start noticing what I see in it... Or he can think I'm not supporting him. Help :-(
Yup boyfriend shows the classic Amway ambot symptoms. Ambots are angry despicable bastards and make life hell for the people around them.

All Amway ambots get defensive. That’s the life of the ambot constantly showing their devotion to the Amway cult and how dare anyone not like Amway and not support their business. HOW DARE THEY!!!!! Amway ambots put a lot of effort into defending this scam and that makes them ANGRY.

Amway is king of all things negative. Amway ambots are obsessed with pointing out everything in the world that is negative. The rest of the world doesn’t seem to have this finger pointing thing down. What’s negative to one person isn’t too another. People in the real world learn to tolerate negatives maybe they read a book called Don’t Sweat The Small Stuff. People in the real world don’t have to pick pick pick at everything and bitch about things they think are negative. People in Amway make all things negative their life’s mission. Really an Amway ambot pointing out everything around them that is negative – there’s nothing unusual about that. They all do that. Amway ambots pointing out everything they perceive to be negative is how they make themselves feel superior to the rest of the world. The rest of the world perceives Amway ambots to be negative.

Amway ambots calling other people paranoid? Look in the mirror ambot!

Yeah an ambot will need a corporate job to afford being in the expensive Amway social club. No one in Amway admits to being in Amway because that’s just so fucking embarrassing admitting that you got suckered into this MLM cult and you’re out to scam people and recruit new cult members. Its better to say you’re unemployed.

And when we’re married to an ambot or dating one or living with one we’re always walking on thin ice. We’re fearful of saying the wrong thing like GET THE FUCK OUT OF AMWAY!!!!! and have the ambot anger directed our way. Ambots are the most angry people around. They’re angry because they’re losing money. Angry because they can’t find others to join up to the scam and make some money back. Angry they’re being abused by the cult followers they love and worship more than anything else in their lives.

Here’s the good news. 95% of IBO’s quit Amway within 2 years. Most within a few months of signing up. You just got to wait them out and that can be hell with them nitpicking and finding everything negative about you they can point out and they only do that to please their upline. Sometimes you got to wait them out by watching them max out their credit cards and spend all their savings. Some can bounce back even if it takes them years. Others have to declare bankruptcy and go into foreclosure if they have a mortgage.

Amway is all about destroying relationships. The cult leaders turn the ambots into nasty, ugly, negative pointing out bastards so the people around them take a hike. That’s what Amway is all about. Sorry to say your story can be told nearly word for word by every Amway widow out there.


31 comments:

  1. Just because I can, I like how your commenting rules pretty much make you a FOX news network...

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  2. You should allow amway gossip comments. Itll drive ambots here

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    1. Ambots stay away because they're prudes about swearing and everything in the world being negative.

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  3. I thoroughly enjoyed this post...because it made me laugh SO friggin hard. My wife and I are nearly in tears at how completely ridiculous this is...LOL.

    Here's a quick out-of-the-blue thought...why DON'T you wives/girlfriends support your husbands/boyfriends in what they choose to do? Do you even know how relationships work? Sweet lord girls, get a clue! The guy is just trying to make more money and try something that could potentially allow you to not have to work later on down the road. Even if it doesn't work out, isn't that worth your emotional support?

    Seriously how many times can you use the phrase "Amway ambots" Anna. It's not even a thing... I literally don't even know how to respond to this trash...

    Your 95% stat you gave is absolutely false and you are just trying to be dramatic. In fact, the entirety of your last comments were fabricated and/or are purely speculation based on opinion and you are just using some lame scare tactic.

    Look, sorry you are completely clouded by rage that somehow some random supplying company instilled in you (that almost sounds too retarded to post...), but saying people contacting with Amway are negative pricks after writing this post is so hypocritical that you IMMEDIATELY lost all of your credibility. Anyone taking this blog seriously needs to get a clue.

    Please, anyone reading this crap, think for yourselves and try to understand the bigger picture. Amway is a servicing corporation and the people who are trying the business out are simply looking for more out of life and they just want the support of their loved ones. Fairly simple stuff. Don't let anxiety or anger cloud your judgement.

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    1. It takes a sorry sick pathetic excuse of a human being to laugh at other people's misery. People in Amway are such arrogant pricks. That's why sites exist to let the world know about the assholes you have to put up with if you sign up with Amway.

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    2. Was laughing hard at how completely ridiculous you sound writing the post, not so much the story itself, though it too is pretty outrageous.

      You, Anna, are proving your immaturity by writing this garbage and speculating that everyone involved with the Amway corporation is the same. You, Anna, sound like a childish brat in posts like this and to be honest you don’t even know what you’re talking about half the time. The things you write are seemingly filtered through some kind of seething hatred that you have probably forgotten where it originated, and have simply conditioned yourself to be constantly negative. You rarely ever actually articulate proper points or make yourself clear, and you just spam the same phrases, curses, and insults over and over again. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

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    3. hey anon......... how's this for negative-- FUCK YOU you little dweeb! Now I'm gonna go count the profits from my businesses and you can play businessman. Oh yeah, don't forget-- you work at your real job in the morning.

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    4. Anonymous - if you don't like what you read then you don't come back. You don't see me going around reading content that I don't like or don't agree with on other websites and then bitching about it being garbage, ridiculous, or negative. I mean I'd have to be a real dumb fuck to keep coming back and reading stuff if I felt that way about it.

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    5. Anon, the failure rate is available on amways own literature. What's wrong with telling a relative,friend or spouse they are wasting $ and its a scam? Just watching out for someone we care about. People are less negative if the business is legit like subway franchise or a gas station

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    6. Hi Anon! Anna & JoeCool's Blogs helped save my marriage - I don't appreciate your rudeness on Anna's Blog. I hope one day you realize what insightful advice actually is - instead of being mislead inside the MLM World. Cheers; G!

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    7. Anonymous - its amazing how many people don't look at the small print on Amway's literature until they start to realize somethings not right like the promised income isn't happening. That's usually about when they're thinking of getting out. When you're still in Amway you just believe what the assholes in your upline lie to you about.

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    8. Thanks lady G. This blog is all about supporting people like you.

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    9. Thank you once again sweet, Anna, for your caring & encouraging enlightment! Best wishes; G! :-)

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    10. The model doesn't work - why should a woman "support" her man when she sees it doesn't right away - support like that a man can do without. The Amway winners you claim just aren't out there - though you Anonymous prove - the losers are!

      Also the reason you and your wife find Anna Banana's original post ridiculous is you are in a state of denial you two have been conned - and I'm sure if your posted your combined 1040 we could prove the con quite easily. Lemme know when you are 'walking the beaches of the world' - ha!

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    11. To the OP from these comments: Are you sure her 95% number is made up? Because Dr. Jon Taylor and Robert FitzPatrick backup her claims, even pointing out that the losses are higher.

      http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/research/case4and-against-mlm/

      Read this first. Even UK judges found out that 99% of the IBO's lose money and never make profit.

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    12. Noticed there is only one new diamond from Alberta Canada in 6 or 7 years from wwdb. I think its even worst than some of us realize. Wonder what the cult leaders say when there's no new north american diamonds for such a long period?

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    13. I'm with Anna. You would have to be a dumb duck to come here to read stuff u don't like. my marriage is also on the rocks because of Amway cult. my husband is a total different person and I'm trying desperately to get him to quit.

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    14. You got it Anonymous! Don't come back and read if the content isn't something you like. Sorry to hear about your marriage. This evil Amway cult makes too many victim out of women who have to put up with brainwashed husbands who used to be nice sweet loving men and turns them into arrogant bastards who sneer at us and put us down. Us collectively - us referring to anyone who is not part of the Amway cult. I'm not sure how long your husband has been in but most quit after a few months when they realize they're losing money and got scammed and its impossible to find people willing to sign up to the Amway pyramid scheme and therefore the little bubbles they draw in their board plan of the gazillions of dollars you'll be making ain't going to happen. 95% of Amway IBO's quit inside 2 years. Amway's statistics. Try showing your husband the small print on the Amway literature - where it says the fraction of 1% of IBO's who will make money. Reverse it and tell him that's over 99% failure rate. Good luck to you.

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    15. WELL i have to say i was in a long term relationship with a hard working man that i loved and he joined amway a few months ago and i tried to support him, went to conventions and bought products, listened to the plans, and i couldnt keep lying to myself. he became a totally different person and i have to say he was BRAINWASHED by his upline!!! We're now on a serious break and if he doesnt leave (he says he wont) then we wont be getting back together. The cds and books changed him into someone else and he isnt who i fell in love with

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    16. Hi Anonymous. Sorry to hear what you're going through. Amway changes nice, respectable, responsible people and turns them into ugly, nasty, sneering robot bastards. That's part of the brainwashing this scam does in its efforts to destroy the lives and relationships of the people in their downline. I know exactly what its like to have an Amway asshole sneer at me and put me down all the time because I don't want to have nothing to do with the Amway scam. Those motivational CD's are all about brainwashing the victims into believing they'll be gazillionairs in a few months if they keep going to Amway meetings and buying thousands of dollars of shitty overpriced Amway products. They all say they're not going to quit. Their upline bitches at them that they can't quit now not when success is right around the corner. They're about to go real big, the Amway upline assholes can feel it coming. Etc, etc. Lies and bullshit. Eventually most ambots quit. 95% of IBO's quit inside 2 years according to Amway's figures. I'd say the majority of them quit within one year. Once they run out of money and there's no room left on the credit cards they don't have much choice but to quit cause they can't afford to buy any more Amway shit or go to any more Amway brainwashing conferences. Good luck to you. Either that he comes to his senses and quits Scamway and begs your forgiveness or that you find a better man who will treat you much better than an Amway ambot ever could.

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  4. At the same time anna is correct in what she says. She describes amway well. I am not against amway. I use their products. However the thought of a few big pins using false promises to entice naieve downlines to buy products and tools is sickening. Most people dont have the nerve to do so. Thats why they quit. Does amway work. Of course it does. But only for a few. Those who know how to use others. Thats fine with me. What anna does is let people realise what its about. Thats fine with me too.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous. We tell it like it happened to us.

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  5. Dream Night must have been less than enchanting this year.

    -Jerry

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    1. Jerry - more so than usual. It must still be dragging on cause people still searching for it.

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  6. my sister got out of amway (because we pressured her to) but then went back after several months using "they're Christian and have good values" as a defense. is she hopeless?

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    1. Sorry to hear about your sister. Like most cults Amway uses religion twisted to control their followers. Hopefully she'll figure out its a scam and get out. Others have to hit rock bottom - destroyed relationships and debt - before they quit.

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  7. i fucking hate amway!!! i wish i could smack sense into my boyfriend hes throwing away our beautiful relationship for this shit! he plans on making millions and "helping people" not long ago it was me and him against the world we would have done anything for each other.. or so i thought ! apparently amway is the new love of his life and all i can say to that is good luck & dont come back to me when youve realized you have wasted years of your young life! fuck you amway! ill tell everyone to stay far away!

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    1. Hate Amway or more specifically hate the fucking assholes in his Amway upline. Those are the biggest troublemaking bastards around who are out to destroy others lives. They all think they're going to be gazillionaires in a couple of years and walk the beaches of the world. Amway the cult of greed where ambots justify their actions as "helping people". Been there for sure when Amway is the only love of Ambot's life. Sounds like you're moving on. You deserve better than to have a broke Ambot in your life. Every penny he gets will be spent on buying shitty overpriced Amway products or tithing the great Amway gods. So lets send a big old FUCK YOU!!!!! out to the assholes in his Amway upline!

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  8. I'm fast becoming an Amway widow. My husband and I had a big fight about it this weekend. On Thursday he gave me a CD and asked me to please listen to it (knowing that I don't like Amway and don't like listening to the CD's) but to be supportive I decided to listen to it anyway. I couldn't finish listening to it because I found it offensive and the woman speaker was getting irritating (going on about how their marriage was great because of Amway while friend's they knew, not in Amway, were splitting up and how their kids were better off because they could afford to not have to send their kids to pre-school). I gave the CD back to my hubby in the morning on Friday and he refused to talk to me the whole day. I only saw him later that evening when he came back from the first day of an Amway "praise and worship" weekend seminar.

    On the Saturday he admitted that he was angry with me for my remarks even though he acknowledged that I was only being truthful. I own a small shop that sells some similar products to Amway. My hubby then started running down the products I sell saying how he gets money back from buying from Amway but what do I get. I then challenged him and told him that I will put money I get from the shop into our household and he can do the same with the money he makes from Amway (knowing most months he gets zip - after being in Amway for 6 years - and on other months he makes just over R100, which is less than the amount I give each of my kids for pocket money.

    So this morning (being Sunday) I got up to get ready for Church and he got up to go to another Amway function. He has totally given up Church now for Amway. Before leaving he told me that he loved me but that he was going to put 100% into Amway over the next 4 months to prove to me that it works. He then had the audacity to ask me if I was okay with that?!? I told him of course I was NOT okay with that but that I'd get over it. Even if he does start making money after 4 months, what sort of marriage will he have at the end of it for what he's putting us through.

    Maybe, if he's lucky, the Amway gods will smile upon him for placing our marriage on the Amway alter as a sacrifice.

    And it's true what you say about Ambots being defensive about Amway. No matter what I have to say about Amway, my hubby is never short of a programmed response. When I've been put down by people my hubby has said nothing, but when I have something negative to say about one of the "high priests or priestesses" on a CD my hubby jumps to their defence like a lioness protecting her cub.

    I know that Amway will not work for my hubby in the next 4 months because God will not bless any venture that requires putting Him and ones family on the proverbial back burner. Amway has indeed become an idol to my husband. My success in business has no doubt left my husband feeling that he needs to prove something and he's willing to sacrifice anything, including our marriage, to try make it work.

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    1. After 6 years, your husband is close to what we call a "lifer" in Amway. The majority of people who get into the scam, after the initial push of brainwashing, eventually start to realize that they are losing money fast, and the more they "invest" in it (i.e. buy the brainwashing CD's, books and attend endless brainwashing meetings and functions) the more deeper and deeper in debt they go. For some, the brainwashing wears off within 6 months to 2 years and they start to see the light (even though they might fall for the blame the victim bullshit from the upline of just not working hard enough), but for others, they are so deeply entrenched in "dreaming" that reality fades away and they only see what their cult masters want them to see.

      I'm sure after 4 months of going full board on Amway his cult masters will tell him that his lack of success after that was from his "negative" wife not supporting him. As you said, they have an answer to everything to deflect taking responsibility to the simple fact that it is a pyramid scam that mathematically is impossible for anyone but those at the very top to make money at. The circles they draw are unrealistic (if you get 6 people in, and they get 6 people in, and so on and so forth, you'll be a billionaire). As you've seen, your husband getting anyone on board and/or keeping them is near impossible. Most people can smell a scam when they don't let themselves get subjected to the brainwashing. Can you think of any other business that pooh poohs actual financial stat sheets in favor of "dreaming"?

      You have my sympathy that your husband is so ensnared by the Amway cult. As you have found, someone who is brainwashed is a brick wall to trying to get to look at reality and facts. I've had cousins who got brainwashed into religious cults, and the change in their personality is very similar to Amway. They chose the cult over their own family.

      I truly hope that somehow, someway, he breaks free of the brainwashing. But as long as they are refreshing it constantly with an endless supply of CD's and meetings, his mind is theirs. It takes time away from the brainwashing source to allow the mind to have the cloud lifted and slowly start seeing the world as it really is, and not the fantasy and illusion painted by the cult.

      My heart goes out to you and I wish the best of luck to you.

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    2. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story. Probably little comfort to you, but its the same story that every Amway widow out there has. Unfortunately for you your husband has been chasing his Amway dreams for a long time. Most quit within 2 years, probably the first year. Amway's figures. 95% of IBO's quit in 2 years so the law of averages is on the wife's side if she can hang in there long enough the husband will get out of this money losing scam.

      Yes, getting angry is all part of being an Amway ambot. I had to deal with that anger all the time. Anything I said there was a preprogrammed response. According to the assholes in our Amway upline I'm a negative unchristian dream stealer who wants to see my husband fail. That's a lie. We have a good business and I sure as hell don't want to see him fail at that and I support him in our legal business, just didn't support him being a commissioned salesperson for Amway.

      And what's going to happen at the end of 4 months? We all know he's not going to suddenly find new people to sign up for Amway or buy Amway products? Have you got him to agree to quit the scam in 4 months if his putting everything into Amway doesn't get him anywhere?

      As soon as he tries to tell the assholes in his Amway upline he's thinking of quitting they'll be all over him saying "You can't quit now, not when success is right around the corner. You're about to go really big in your business, I can feel it."

      When someone is in the Amway cult they have to sacrifice everything to show their love and devotion to the Great Amway God. That includes their marriage, their family, their friends, their career (if they haven't been fired yet), and their house and any other nice things they have in their life.

      That's a great description that I've never heard before that God will not bless any venture that requires putting him and ones family on the back burner.

      But your husband answers to a higher power. The Great Amway God.

      Good luck. I hope things get better for you.

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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
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