Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Amway Goads


For those of you who have had to put up with listening to the Amway band the Goads and occasionally stop by here looking information about them, you’ve come to the wrong place! Ha! I remember hearing them. I guess they’re good enough, but not memorable and not interesting enough to write about. Someone once left a comment with the titles of the songs they sing and yeah they’re all about motivating Amway ambots.

 

Time to really know what an Amway goad is. To be goaded by an Amway ambot.

 

Here’s a few things I found in online dictionaries for the meaning of the word “goad” all that apply very well when used to describe an Amway IBO.

 

- to make a person or an animal react or do something by continuously annoying or upsetting them

- a pointed rod used to make an animal move forward

- someone or something that urges or forces someone to do something

- something that pains as if by pricking

 

All of those apply to what its like being abused by the fucking assholes in your Amway upline! The most fucking annoying goading bastards around are all in Amway.

 

Is it any wonder that Amway uses a musical group at Amway functions and names them “the goads”? Ha ha ha. Very fitting description for anything Amway!!!!

 

A former Amway lifer shares their story:

 

 

I stumbled upon your site after searching for "The Goads", since I was curious if they existed, let me explain.

 

I was a "lifer" in Amway back in the 80's-90's.

 

I was quite fluent in "the plan" and could "persuade" (I have to be careful how I say that, since if you "chose" the right people, they didn't need persuading), and "candidate" that this was the best way to financial freedom. It certainly makes sense that the most common persons to approach are young unassuming "go getters" (I never used so many quotation marks) or someone who is a solid business man. One has no idea what is ahead of them and the other has the money to "invest".

 

Anyway all that has been said is true in that there is a clear deception in what is going on there. Yes, I know a person who still has their "dream" does not see it that way, but lets look at a few thing they don't tell you.

 

1. "If you work hard at it, you will succeed". Now they carefully don't tell you how long that will be, since they have no idea. That works in their favor both ways. One, as long as your in you purchase the products and "essentials", which leads to at the next question, but I'll get to that. On the other hand if you decide to leave for ANY reason, you've lost your "dream".

 

2. It will cost you now, but when you make it, it will be a business that allows you the free time to do what you want. Cost? That's an understatement. If you've got kids, sorry, if you're struggling to pay off debt, don't worry about it, once your business kicks in, you can pay for all that and more. (Heard this all before?) So after putting in countless hours showing the plan, driving to meetings and getting out to "contact" people, that doesn't leave much time for the family. Again, this is why to seek out the young and "unattached" (no kids). Now how long was that again until I can be successful? You just have to work at it hard, uh huh.

 

3. You MUST attend the "functions" (another word for con-vention, good choice by the way). Now let me get this right. I can't take my kids anywhere and have no money to take my wife out to dinner, but I NEED to spend money I don't have so that I can keep my "dream" alive? Don't worry, we can get a room that you and 12 others can split to make it less expensive...

 

I guess that brigns me back to why i was searching "The Goads". (Sorry it took me so long) Our pastor today brought up the story of Paul and how Christ said to him that it was hard to work against the goads. He explained what a "goad" was and it was like a light went on. A goad, he said is a sharpened stick that allows the user to guide the sheep in the direction he wants them to go. (ding, ding ding.) Got it yet, The Goads, perfectly and carefully named so, are the sharpened stick that guided the blind sheep ( Amway followers) in the direction of the dream. Well, I have been saving individuals, for sometime, from the misnomers of Amway. I even got "contacted" to a plan showing (that was interesting). It was nice to see good people leaving with me saying thanks. Keep up the good work.


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  1. Anna - I've been reading your blog for a while, I don't remember why I stumbled upon it but I find this whole Ambot thing thoroughly fascinating. The other day, I was approached by a co-worker at my part-time job. She had several cans of the "piss water" and was telling me how great it is as she was putting it in the refrigerator. It was so great she had to label them as her drinks so no one else would take them. Then she showed me her "energy gum" and explained how she never had to take breaks from her work because that gum was so great!! Then she told me how she owns her own business and makes money by "buying from her own store." Wow, I had to hide my laughter with that one, as I recognized it from reading your blog. This person has never said two words to me before that day. She only started a conversation with me to give her sales spiel. Never once did she mention Amway. Now, this person is not extremely intelligent, she has a very menial job and seems to be almost illiterate. But she is going to be a millionaire and own her own business. Yes, a blind sheep who fell for all the hype.

    So it got me to thinking, why do people fall for it? Do former Ambots ever tell you why they fell for the line? Is it the constant praise and the isolation from your former friends and family? And why is it mostly men who fall for this, or am I wrong about that and women are equally vulnerable? Is there a certain personality type that is more prone to fall for it, perhaps someone who is wishy-washy, who can't seem to make up their own mind? Someone who likes being told what to do, and how to do it?

    Over the years, we have had home visits from vacuum cleaner salesman, insurance salesman, investment guys, etc, all invited in by my husband who had a friend at work, who "knew a guy with a great business opportunity for us." They were all some kind of MLM scheme. They never got any business from me, but sometimes I would see a gleam in my husband's eye, as if he was starting to fall for it. If I weren't around, maybe he would. All these schemes seem to work in the same way, the product is secondary, the real money is in recruiting others, and selling "tools." They hype you up and tell you that you will be a millionaire, and own your own business, making yourself rich instead of your boss. Having worked for a sales company many years ago as a secretary, I have heard all these lines before and none of them influence me.

    The sad thing is, there are certainly plenty of sheep to fall for it. If it didn't work, these companies would have been out of business a long time ago. But they keep recruiting new suckers to carry on.

    I guess I'm just a curious amateur psychologist, trying to figure out what makes Amway, and all these other companies, so attractive the the sheep people. Keep up the good work exposing them!


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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by with your comments. Glad you're enjoying the blog.

      Yeah I had to laugh about your co-worker labelling her XS energy drinks so no one else would take them! Who'd want them! She only wishes people were lining up to buy the cat piss/horrible cough medicine mix that they call energy drinks! I'm surprised her upline didn't tell her to label them with $5 price tags!

      Unfortunately Amway preys on the most disadvantaged people and fills their heads with dreams that they'll be rich and retired in 2 to 5 years simply from "buying from your own store" like you already laughed about and spending money to buy Amway motivational tools and buying tickets to Amway functions. They brainwash these people that they are winners simply by showing up. They become instant friends and stay friends as long as they make money off you and once you quit or don't purchase your monthly quota they insult you and then ostracize you.

      People fall for the Amway scam because they get brainwashed and they want to make their new friends happy and will go out of their way to please their upline cult leaders. Yes its mostly men because Amway is a good old boy's club and women are treated badly even though the Amway ambot goal is to retire the wife first. Its a bunch of fucked up brainwashing. You'd have to sit in on a few sessions to see what's going on at Amway meetings. Cult meetings. Or watch that video I have a link to on the upper right side of the page about Dateline covering Amway meetings and filming the cult behavior and the lies told at the meeting.

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    2. If they told you when they fell for it, that would imply they know it's a scam and would've gotten out of it. Instead, they're still peddling it like it's a dream come true. I was prospected by a former coworker. Similar deal... he said he always noticed I was a "go-getter". However, we never sat together, so that was a red flag right there.

      I sort of regret not meeting up with him one last time face to face, and just asking him straight up if he's aware this is a scam. Expecting AmSpeak, say I did my research, and that they slam you with so many fees that you LOSE money just from the sheer weight of all the fees. I did tell him I'm not joining, but if he wants to meet up to chat about NON-Amway stuff, he's welcomed to. Surprise surprise, he never contacted me again.

      With these types of folks who prospect me, I would've liked to respond by saying that I met an attractive young girl working in a department store. I haven't asked her out yet, but she was so nice and I'm fairly certain she wants to marry me, and have all of my kids ;) just to see if they can pick up how ridiculous they sound.

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    3. ackmondual – in addition to calling you a go-getter he probably also called you a “sharp guy”. Those Amway ambots all have the same lines! Yeah all those extra fees associated with Amway are a deep secret until after you’ve signed up and paid your registration fee and after the ambots are convinced that you value their friendship enough that you’ll pay for it and keep them happy by useless Amway tools. Yup invest in the tool scam so the assholes in the Amway upline can get richer! And no they never pick up on how ridiculous they sound. They're duplicating everything their Amway cult leaders say and with as much blind love and devotion they have to the assholes in their Amway upline they always think those are the highest words of wisdom they've ever heard and think the rest of us want to hear their canned Amspeak too. WRONG!

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    4. There's all sorts of people who fall for these MLM cults.Theres the greedy lazy bastards who want something for nothing, those who are desperate to make ends meet but having trouble finding a steady job, people with low self-esteem subceptible to the cult love bombing. Not all of them are low intelligence some v high intelligence but emotionally vulnerable.
      I have had experience with another cult Herbalife who stole my ex boyfriend. They were more of an equal opportunity scammer than Amway so you had single people, gay people, minorities there not so much stuff on religion.
      The shocking thing you will find are serial MLMers - a lot of ex-ambots end up in Herbalife and other similar scams. As if going through hell just the once isn't enough!

      As an aside Amway has now started infecting some of my contacts on LinkedIn. Need to find out how to block them before they start peppering my inbox with Amspeak. Nothing I haven't heard before from Herbalife.

      I notice from David Brear's blog that Herbalife is under criminal investigation. I hope it gets shut down along with all these other MLM cults. They are the real dreamstealers!

      ~Ex-girlfriend of a Herbot

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    5. Hi Herbot's ex - Amway is also an equal opportunity scammer they'll take money from anyone. They won't let them go too far up the pyramid though.

      Don't know LinkedIn. Can't you just delete those contacts?

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    6. Ah yes, you're right - an important caveat that the scambots aren't picky about the cannon fodder!

      LinkedIn is like Facebook but for professional people. Up until recently has been blissfully free of manic cult MLM activity and therefore I could go about networking people for genuine business purposes without people being suspicious of my motivations and I could have the joy of random people connecting with me for the same.

      I closed my Facebook account after suffering harassment from my ex's upline on there.
      Also got fed up with my feed getting peppered with images of Herballife, Body by Vie and Forever Living products. Everyday some new contact asking me about whether I had a job, how would I like my own business. Prophecies of doom about technology and how everyone with a job will be broke, the only way to financial freedom is through MLM.
      The scambots getting nasty and abusive when I ask them such things as business costs, time and net profit.

      They're all the same pimping some dreadful quality highly priced product which is just a disguise for passing monies up the pyramid. Same lies about working 2 hours a week and earning £5000 a month (don't know what that equates to in dollars - I'm English). Same lies about being a low risk, can't lose venture ( sorry no such thing - you don't get something for nothing). Same scam speak - oh - look - Warren Buffett, Donald Trump do network Marketing - no you idiots they OWN their network marketing companies YOU are their unpaid slave!
      Same lies how easy it is - yeah easy to lose money and lose your friends and people who care about you.

      I absolutely f**king hate them all & just lost my rag this morning when I saw a message in my inbox about me seeming like a "sharp business woman" and seeing that that person had become an ambot had updated his profile saying Amway Business Owner.

      Sorry back to your question can't I delete them? not as straightforward on LinkedIn as Facebook to delete people. Have researched and found some links but I think I will have to log onto my laptop and do it instead of via tablet.

      For any other of your blog readers getting Scambot messages on LinkedIn they have a policy forbidding solicitation from pyramid schemes and "work from home opportunities".
      Please make sure you report the Scambots!

      Be sure to Google pyramid scheme alert and listen to the Robert Fitzpatrick podcasts!

      ~Ex-girlfriend of a Herbot

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  2. I would have to add, the people most likely to succumb to the MLM business are people who have suffered a loss, such as a job, or have a lot of uncertanity in their life. they are probably just searching for something (hope?). They will NOT find it in MLM unless they START the scam themselves...and most decent people are not that devious.

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    1. Anonymous - they're searching for something that's for sure and it could be any of those reasons you've mentioned trying to get rich and have a better life. Amway is all about selling the hope not the soap. Other MLM participants offer similar dreams to recruits.

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    2. They definitely have "marks" to go after... Sometimes, they'll give ambots a crash course on how to prospect recruits. Well, we all know Barnes & Noble shoppers was done to death. There's also specific groups like college students, perhaps even high school students, single mothers, the elderly, and young mid-aged family men.

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    3. ackmondual – usually ambots go after those who can least afford to lose the money. Well none of us can afford to lose money to the Amway scam. And you're right sometimes in Scamway meetings the cult leaders do tell you who to be targeting. Disadvantaged people such as on government assistance and minimum wage earners who have a credit card with room to spend are high on the list because they're so desperate to make more money.

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  3. I had a neighbor once a single mom with two kids in the apartment complex I lived in and apparently her ex bagged child support payments so although she had a (sadly not very well paying) full time job first she put up flyers in the laundry room she was moon-lighting as a maid/house cleaner. Then not too long after that a flyer of an open meeting at her apartment about a "business opportunity"... Don't know if it was Amway or not because I didn't attend but whatever MLM scan it was... a down-and-outer being lied to and taken advantage off...

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    1. Anonymous – that’s too bad about your neighbor. The flyer would have probably been Amway or maybe Monavie. Both are pretty secretive about disclosing the names of their schemes and instead throw out the generic business opportunity. Its all about lies and scams with these MLMs. And unfortunately finding people such as your neighbor who is struggling for money and filling her head with dreams of riches in 2 to 5 years, conveniently neglecting to mention to her she must invest $500 to $700/month on buying shitty overpriced products, tickets to functions, etc all for a whopping $10/month commission check.

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  4. It's sad that all of these awful manipulative mlm schemes give legitimate ones a bad name! I work for an mlm (selling sex toys lol) and make a decent wage with it. I'm also never harassed by my upline! A friend who is in the Amway Cult tried to get me to switch "businesses" (we don't call what I do "owning my own business" so I can't really switch since I don't have one to begin with *eyeroll*) when he isn't even making any money! are you effin nuts?! I mean I use some of my products, shaving things and oils and such, but I don't have to be my own customer because I actually sell things that people want to other people! things that you can't get cheaper somewhere else! I think that the "100% Product Use" along with the cd's and meetings is what makes Amway creepy, not the mlm format itself.

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    1. Hi Anonymous - thanks for stopping by! You know Amway should sell sex toys even though they'd be overpriced generic sex toys. I get dozens of searchers landing on this blog after doing some kind of Amway sex search. So you need to pepper your website with key words like "Amway sex", " Amway sex products", "Amway after sex products", etc etc and you'll start seeing some of the traffic that ends up here! Yeah your business sounds great! Good luck!

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  5. I've been there,also. Back in the early-mid 90's, my ex-husband and I were all caught up in Amway. I only went along with it to make him happy; we were newlyweds struggling with a baby at the time. Riding on charter busses for hours to go to these conventions, paying for hotel rooms, when we could barely afford groceries. It was all ridiculous. Everyone we knew eventually got out of it after about 5 years; thank god. I've been approached many times since by people with other MLM's; my answer is always no thanks. Avon, Mary Kay, It Works, Melaleuca, on and on. They're all the same.

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    1. Charlotte - that sounds like the life of an Amway Ambot! You probably skipped rent to make it to that Amway brainwashing convention. Yeah most women don't want anything to do with Amway but want to be supportive of their husbands. Until they see all their money going to tithe the Great Amway God and having to put up with the abuse from the fucking assholes in the Amway upline.

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  6. I'm a former Amway distributor and yes, it costs more than I made so when approached to do another network marketing business I was reluctant, but I'm thankful it is 110% different from Amway and a legitimate money making business without having to buy tools or even pay for functions, which are free with this company. I can even get my product for free and initial investment back within a month. Everything else is clear profit. So, I am not an Amway fan by any stretch, but in case nobody has cleared this up, Amway did NOT name "the Goads." That is their family name and they were a group of family entertainers long before Amway. As a matter of fact Amway was not responsible for bringing in The Goads; that was done by Dexter Yager. They performed at his functions; not the ones done by Amway. Also, I understand how many people would be totally against any and all network marketing businesses; however, please don't judge all the others by one company. They are NOT all alike. I can testify personally...and I tried several before becoming involved in with a wonderful company.

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    1. Hi doody. If you've found an MLM that works for you then that's great. However the only people making money at MLM are the owners or the people who got in early enough to have a substantial downline. And as you pointed out not all network marketing companies are out to screw over their sales reps. Amway is the worst MLM out there due to their bad reputation of scamming over their participants and nickel and diming them to death and the abuse from the upline. Plus their reputation of flogging overpriced useless shitty products. You wouldn't see that kind of bullshit abuse going on at Avon.

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  7. Just laghing at how stupid everyone is :)

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    1. Just laughing at how stupid Amway Ambots are. LOL! That's why this blog exists. Dumb fuck.

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  8. To Anonymous at 7:49 AM --

    Why is everyone stupid? Or are you laughing because you are a jackass who can't make a valid argument?

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    1. Anonymous - I'd say that's about right. And we're all laughing at the jackass who thinks he'll be the one in 50,000 who'll make money in the Amway scam.

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  9. Did you know that if your in world wide dream builders group the baker organization in so cal. That all platinums get 20% cut of all books tapes and function tickets in world wide ? And once you go diamond you become part owner of world wide dream builders and you make close to a million dollars a year from books tapes and function tickets sold through out world wide! So FUCK the products from AMWAY you don't make shit from them maybe at the most 100-150k after 10 years ALL THERE MONEY COMES FROM BOOKS TAPES AN THEY MAKE EVEN MORE WHEN THEY MAKE THERE OWN TAPES THAT THEY SPEAK ON ++++ PLUS THE SHIT LOADES OF MONEY FROM ALL THE MAJOIR FUNCTIONS THROUGH OUT THE YEAR PLUS THE COMUNIKATE VOICE MAIL PROGRAM PLUS SIGNING UP FOR A PREMIER MEMBERSHIP THROUGH WORLD WIDE DREAM BUILDERS

    THIS IS WHY ALL THE PLATINUMS PUSH PUSH PUSH TO MAKE YOU BUY TICKETS AND JOIN ALL THE PROGRAMS THROUGH WORLD WIDE! I even had my up-line tell me I'm not in Amway that Amway is just a servicing agent that supplies the products on the back end. I was told that the opportunity for the long term bigger picture is world wide dream builders not Amway! I was even told not to sponsor people over 40 years old because they are to tired and to lazy and they are to set in there ways! My upline even told me that plus if they die there goes my residual bonus check. I am 52 years old and I am being told to sponsor people who are 22-35 years old who are married with a family. Because most single people don't have a big enough dream and they aren't very motivated. WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES!! FUCK THEM!!

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    1. Thanks Anonymous for dropping by with your story.

      We don't call if the Amway tool scam for nothing.

      Amway will bring you nothing but financial and emotional distress.

      And this website is all about showing how Amway Ambots are a bunch of fucking assholes.

      We can't say it enough times. Fuck Amway!

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  10. Did you know that if your in world wide dream builders group the baker organization in so cal. That all platinums get 20% cut of all books tapes and function tickets in world wide ? And once you go diamond you become part owner of world wide dream builders and you make close to a million dollars a year from books tapes and function tickets sold through out world wide! So FUCK the products from AMWAY you don't make shit from them maybe at the most 100-150k after 10 years ALL THERE MONEY COMES FROM BOOKS TAPES AN THEY MAKE EVEN MORE WHEN THEY MAKE THERE OWN TAPES THAT THEY SPEAK ON ++++ PLUS THE SHIT LOADES OF MONEY FROM ALL THE MAJOIR FUNCTIONS THROUGH OUT THE YEAR PLUS THE COMUNIKATE VOICE MAIL PROGRAM PLUS SIGNING UP FOR A PREMIER MEMBERSHIP THROUGH WORLD WIDE DREAM BUILDERS

    THIS IS WHY ALL THE PLATINUMS PUSH PUSH PUSH TO MAKE YOU BUY TICKETS AND JOIN ALL THE PROGRAMS THROUGH WORLD WIDE! I even had my up-line tell me I'm not in Amway that Amway is just a servicing agent that supplies the products on the back end. I was told that the opportunity for the long term bigger picture is world wide dream builders not Amway! I was even told not to sponsor people over 40 years old because they are to tired and to lazy and they are to set in there ways! My upline even told me that plus if they die there goes my residual bonus check. I am 52 years old and I am being told to sponsor people who are 22-35 years old who are married with a family. Because most single people don't have a big enough dream and they aren't very motivated. WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES!! FUCK THEM!!

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  11. Did you know that if your in world wide dream builders group in so cal. That all platinums get 20% cut of all books tapes and function tickets in world wide ? And once you go diamond you become part owner of world wide dream builders and you make close to a million dollars a year from books tapes and function tickets sold through out world wide! So FUCK the products from AMWAY you don't make shit from them maybe at the most 100-150k after 10 years ALL THERE MONEY COMES FROM BOOKS TAPES AN THEY MAKE EVEN MORE WHEN THEY MAKE THERE OWN TAPES THAT THEY SPEAK ON ++++ PLUS THE SHIT LOADES OF MONEY FROM ALL THE MAJOIR FUNCTIONS THROUGH OUT THE YEAR PLUS THE COMUNIKATE VOICE MAIL PROGRAM PLUS SIGNING UP FOR A PREMIER MEMBERSHIP THROUGH WORLD WIDE DREAM BUILDERS

    THIS IS WHY ALL THE PLATINUMS PUSH PUSH PUSH TO MAKE YOU BUY TICKETS AND JOIN ALL THE PROGRAMS THROUGH WORLD WIDE! I even had my up-line tell me I'm not in Amway that Amway is just a servicing agent that supplies the products on the back end. I was told that the opportunity for the long term bigger picture is world wide dream builders not Amway! I was even told not to sponsor people over 40 years old because they are to tired and to lazy and they are to set in there ways! My upline even told me that plus if they die there goes my residual bonus check. I am 52 years old and I am being told to sponsor people who are 22-35 years old who are married with a family. Because most single people don't have a big enough dream and they aren't very motivated. WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES!! FUCK THEM!!

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  12. Did you know that if your in world wide dream builders group in
    so cal. That all platinums get 20% cut of all books tapes and function tickets in world wide ? And once you go diamond you become part owner of world wide dream builders and you make close to a million dollars a year from books tapes and function tickets sold through out world wide! So FUCK the products from AMWAY you don't make shit from them maybe at the most 100-150k after 10 years ALL THERE MONEY COMES FROM BOOKS TAPES AN THEY MAKE EVEN MORE WHEN THEY MAKE THERE OWN TAPES THAT THEY SPEAK ON ++++ PLUS THE SHIT LOADES OF MONEY FROM ALL THE MAJOIR FUNCTIONS THROUGH OUT THE YEAR PLUS THE COMUNIKATE VOICE MAIL PROGRAM PLUS SIGNING UP FOR A PREMIER MEMBERSHIP THROUGH WORLD WIDE DREAM BUILDERS

    THIS IS WHY ALL THE PLATINUMS PUSH PUSH PUSH TO MAKE YOU BUY TICKETS AND JOIN ALL THE PROGRAMS THROUGH WORLD WIDE! I even had my up-line tell me I'm not in Amway that Amway is just a servicing agent that supplies the products on the back end. I was told that the opportunity for the long term bigger picture is world wide dream builders not Amway! I was even told not to sponsor people over 40 years old because they are to tired and to lazy and they are to set in there ways! My upline even told me that plus if they die there goes my residual bonus check. I am 52 years old and I am being told to sponsor people who are 22-35 years old who are married with a family. Because most single people don't have a big enough dream and they aren't very motivated. WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES!! FUCK THEM!!

    I also made several calls to the business rules and conduct with in the Amway corporation and I asked them if Amway profits from money being made through the books tapes and functions and other programs through world wide dream builders. I get completely different answers from over 10 different phone calls.

    THESE ARE THE RESPONSES BELOW
    I GOT FROM 10 DIFFERENT PHONE CALLS TO THE AMWAY BUSINESS DEPT!

    1. Oh World Wide Dream Builders is a separate business from Amway.
    2. Oh no Amway if defiantly not connected to WORLD WIDE!
    3. I did not understand the question could you please repeat that.
    4. Why do you want to know!
    5. I need to know your name so I can log this questions under your name.
    6. I have no idea at all.
    7. I am not allowed to answer that question.
    8. Let me put you on hold and check on that (tic toc death hold continues)
    9. I can only answer that question if you tell me why your asking!
    10. I spent over an hour talking to someone in business rules and conduct and when I asked this question they hung up on me!

    My conclusion is YES AMWAY GETS A CUT FROM WORLD WIDE DREAM BUILDERS!!

    Its enough to make you sick to your stomach!!

    I say lets start a class action lawsuit

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    1. Anonymous - you'll never get an answer from Amway's head office and their I-don't-give-a-shit department.

      Amway claims they're not responsible for what is said at Amway meetings. Well then who the fuck is???!!!

      We can't say it enough times. Fuck Amway!

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    2. no, Amway does not get a penny from World Wide Dream Builders. you guys are just making stuff up because you are trying to justify why Amway didn't work for you. good luck with whatever you do, but if you dont cha get your attitude, you will just carry it wherever you go.

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    3. Robl - what a fucking naive asshole you are. Do you really think that Amway allows WWDB to operate and do whatever the hell they want to do without charging them a fee? I suppose you believe that bullshit that Amway Diamonds show up to speak to the Ambots out of the goodness of their hearts because they want to "help" others and that they're not making any money from the ticket sales. Instead of being a dumb fuck why don't you look at the small print on Amway's brochures where it says less than 1% of all participants make money. That means 99% failure rate. That means Amway is a system designed for failure that does not work so it's not just me Amway didn't work for it's the majority of everyone who got sucked into their scam.

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    4. Robl, your upline's gonna murderize you when they find out you're here. Shouldn't you be scurrying around trying to find new victims to sign up? You're flat-out wrong, like most of Amway's scammers are.

      It's interesting that your response to these allegations is a demand that people SHUT UP AND QUIT TALKING, rather than ponying up evidence to support your assertion that this is a false claim. You offer none whatsoever--probably because there isn't any.

      Don't try to scam people who know you're lying. Go find people who don't realize you're lying. You'll have much better luck then, and it's a far better and more profitable use of your time as a scammer.

      Or, ya know, waste your time on people who absolutely 100% know you're lying and talking out of your fucking scuzzy ass, because at least then we'll be wasting your time and keeping you from using it to find victims to prey upon. That's fine too.

      Cas

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    5. Hi Cas. Yeah if the fucking assholes in Robl's Amway upline find out he's been on a forbidden website and helping increase its search engine ranking by leaving comments, he'll be in for a shit kicking for sure!

      These Amway scammers show up with their lies and bullshit and think we haven't heard it a million times already. They're so (un)original LOL!

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  13. Sounds like someone didn’t do well in the business. I’m Sure your job got you further in Life �������������������� sike your probably living paycheck to paycheck ��

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    1. Looks like another fucking Amway loser who refuses to accept that there are actually people out here who don’t have jobs. And that Amway Ambots are taught that a job is something evil. Well here’s a news flash for you fucktard: there are other businesses in the world that have nothing to do with Scamway and there are people who like their jobs and make a good living from them. Only fucking Amway Ambots seem to have a problem with that.

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    2. if you love your job, please keep it. job lovers dont qualify to be Amway business owners :)

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    3. That's a fucking lie Rob1. Anyone who's naive enough to sign up to ScAmway qualifies. Ambots are desperate to sign up anyone so they can get praised by their Amway cult leader. But thanks for letting us know that Amway bullshit about qualifying prospects still goes on. The only people who don't qualify to ScAmway are people who have any formal business or financial training because they'll figure out pretty fucking fast that Amway is a scam.

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    4. I love how Robl tries to pretend that people must "qualify" to join his financial scam.

      You're right: they will take anybody. They took my old pal Roy, who 100% had a great job as a manager at a fast-food place. He was good at his job and apparently his workers adored him. Then Amway got their hooks into him. He lost his job and as far as I know never got another one.

      The only people Amway scammers reject are people who can see through their lies. And someone can love OR hate their job and still manage that.

      Fuck Amway, fuck MLMs, and fuck their evangelists six ways from Sunday!

      Cas

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    5. Cas, I can't tell you how many times Amway losers leave comments here still spouting off that bullshit about qualifying prospects when we know those Ambots will sign up anyone who is gullible enough to be scammed into their pyramid scheme.

      Yeah FUCK AMWAY!

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  14. To Anonymous at 10:02 PM --

    How much money have you lost in Amway so far? Give us a figure.

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    1. Anonymous - all we have to know is how many months the bastard has been in Amway and times it by $1000. But no Amway loser will admit they're losing money because "business is going great".

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    2. better question, have you ever been in traditional business? and if so, how much money have you lost building that business?

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    3. And that's any of your fucking business because?

      Why do all you Amway fucktards show up DEMANDING answers but refuse to answer any questions.

      And if you actually this blog you'd have your answer. What? Too fucking lazy to put the work in?

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  15. Was in Amway 3 yrs then quit. Made nothing. But I've met far more jackasses and asswipes thru all the "real" and "legitimate" jobs I've had. Thank goodness I figured out a way to create significant passive income blogging -- something that just as few people can pull off as becoming a Direct, Ruby or Emerald.

    A few things I'll never forget in Amway: Spent a lot of time preparing to have a Direct present the plan to a group I was working on assembling at my apartment complex's clubhouse. I put up signs, prepared food to bring, etc. I was expecting a turnout. Then the night before my sponsor (my brother) informed me that the direct could not make it because some diamond dude named Merritt was coming to town to give a big speech. Since I had no idea who was coming to my clubhouse meeting (I had posted many signs but did not directly prospect anyone), I couldn't redirect them to the Merritt meeting. I was pissed and ended up bringing NOBODY to this worthless meeting. I griped about this and was told (before the Merritt meeting) what a great opty this was. Who knows how many people I may have signed on had Merritt NOT come to town the effing last second. What a dbag; no notice; pops in wth no notice.

    I also beefed about the "standing order tape" $5 fee. One tape a week. That added up. My sponsor told me my dream must not have been greater than $5/week. He said he'd quit mentoring me in the business if I quit paying for the "SOT." So I clammed up and continued buying them. But he was too dumb to realize that I let the tapes accumulate, never opened. Never listened to any of them. Today my blog is flourishing and he just lost his "real" job; wife does't work; has three young kids; big mtg; age 60 (not the ideal age that employers are looking for).

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    1. Hi Anonymous - thanks for stopping by to share your story. You know it says in Amway literature that your up line might try to sell you motivational tools but you're not obligated to buy them and they still has to help you. These Amway losers have no problem violating Amway policy because we also heard the old if you don't buy the tools we won't work with you.

      And the old insults about how your dream wasn't big enough. These Amway losers need fresh material.

      And good on you for finding a side hustle to bring in some money and you probably have low overhead! Woohoo!

      Most Ambots get fired from their jobs for being obnoxious assholes. And you're right at age 60 it's hard to find work. The bigger thing is what's an old geezer his age doing with young children? That's grandpa age. So unfair to children when you have them that late in life. I wonder if he got permission from the assholes in his up line first.

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    2. He's 61 today, and his two youngest are 3 and 5! He just bought a half mill home but lost his job about a month later! Still unemployed. Sure, he can get work at Walmart or someplace like that, but a job like that'll never pay the mtg. And then there's medical for a family of five. Has leases out on two vehicles (SUV and Yukon; can you imagine what the monthly payment on a 3 yr lease for a $60,000 vehicle is???). HE IS SCREWED. Has always made very poor decisions. When I began Amway I had decided to give it three years. Not a day more. After 3 yrs and no income, I quit it. But I've always hated working for someone else. At age 38 I figured out how to make good income working part time as a personal trainer. Three years later I was working part time in a different field ... AT HOME! And since then I have not worked outside the house. Keep up your blog!

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    3. Hi Anonymous. Amway Ambots are always going around bragging about paying for everything in cash but the rest of us know it ain't happening. Too many stories of banks calling in loans, foreclosures, bankruptcies... I'm sure your former sponsor is going to feel the heat really soon. No one buys a half mill house and takes a mortgage on it when they're this close to retiring. Most people think of downsizing and finding cheaper place to live. Not Amway losers though. Same with the leased cars that he probably only got cause some fucking asshole in the Amway upline told him to get these models.

      But you know what he'll do? He'll keep buying Amway shit and investing in the tool scam and let his other payments slide until the bank comes knocking.

      And you know some fucker in his upline counselled him to do all this shit because nothing brings those bastards more happiness than destroying other people's lives.

      Can you imagine hitting retirement age with nothing? And if you find a job how many years do you have to still be healthy enough to keep working. Ambots are always screeching about how 95% of the population will be broke or dead by age 65 and I keep saying that only applies to people inside the Amway cult. Here's more living proof.

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  16. I was and worked for the Goads for more than 20+ yrs what would you like to know?

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    1. Hi Unknown. I don't know. Was it really creepy watching what went on at Amway meetings? How much did the Goads make for each performance?

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    2. the Goads are all heart and one of the best ministries I have been a part of.

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    3. The best? Really? Do you have a big L stamped on your forehead too?

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    4. Ah, Robl reveals his motivations. You attacked one of his golden calf idols, so he must swing into action like the Crusader Knight Paladin that he imagines himself to be to defend his idols. I see fundagelicals do this constantly online. They're such control freaks that they can't bear the idea that SOMEone, SOMEwhere, is saying SOMEthing critical about the thing they worship beyond life itself.

      But all they have is talking points and lies to do it. Those talking points and lies work great in their tribe, but outside of it they collapse like dominoes. So hilarity ensues every time. Usually it ends with the Crusader Paladin Knight flouncing away in utter indignance -- often lobbing a "I'll pray for yoooooooooou!" as they go.

      Anyone who considers Amway a "ministry" is revealing that they are 100% straight-up knowing scammers perpetrating white-collar crime on thousands of unsuspecting Christians.

      This sort of thing is part of why I think Christianity is in terminal decline in the US. I don't think Amway caused it -- but Amway's creators and big names took advantage of weaknesses in the system that'd been growing there for decades and generations. The fact that so many Christians can look at Amway scammers and accept those scammers chirping that "iT's A MiNiStRy!" is a big sign that they long ago lost their way.

      Sorry to rant about religion, just this nutjob has revealed his true colors as a fundagelical here and I want him to know I AM ON TO HIM COMPLETELY. I make a decent living spearing those thrice-damned hypocrites to the goddamned wall, and I motherfuckin love doing it.

      Of course our boy Robl is a bees-headed fundagelical who's never met a right-wing talking point he didn't embrace. Ambots either start that way or end up that way. They've all bought into an unholy fusion of "financial scam" and "totalitarian political system dressing up as a religion," and they super-like it that way. And it's why their religion is failing, as well as why it deserves to fail.

      Every single Ambot we see is playing a small part in that failure, too. Every single goddamned one of 'em. I just wish they weren't doing so much damage as their religion heads off into the fringes of history where it fucking well belongs.

      Cas

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    5. Cas - it never fails to amaze me the amount of Amway cult followers who leave comments here that they're going to pray for us.

      Like who the hell asked you to? LOL! Self righteous bastards! We don't want nothing to do with Amway's twisted religious beliefs.

      I wonder if that fucking Amway loser will come back and read any of these. Robl will just be seething!

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  17. this bashing Amway is so full of lies I dont even have time to respond to all this BS. if you dont like Amway then that's your problem. fact is whether you like it or not. we that build the Amway business just keep becoming more successful. not just about money, we are more successful in our relationships, in life and our family. Their is other ways of becoming successful, but it is really stupid and ignorant to bash something that did not work for you.

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    1. Robi - you're a fucking asshole if you think our true life experiences inside the Amway cult are lies. What the matter matter with you motherfucker? Can't handle the truth because that means your fairy tale bubble will burst? Take a look at the small print on Amway's brochures. Only a tiny fraction of less than 1% of all participants will make money in ScAmway. That's over 99% failure rate. If you think that's "successful" then you and I have a huge gap in our definition of that word.

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    2. Hey Robl --

      If you think Amway is so great, why are you hanging around here at an anti-Amway website? Why aren't you out there drawing chalk circles for dimwits?

      You must be really pissed off about something if you visit this website and add to the posts. Maybe it's because your Amway business sucks.

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    3. Aww, you're so LOVING, Robl! What CHRISTIAN LOVE we're all feeling today! Turnin' the other cheek get all boring for ya, Robl? Repaying nastiness with kindness, like Jesus fucking ordered you to do, get all tiresome?

      You are a failure in Amway, and I'll tell you how I know.

      You bought into it because you're already completely all-in on the mindset that leads to buying into Amway's lies. You totally buy into right-wing talking points and you're a goddamned hypocrite who possesses not one shred of self-awareness, nor any ability to look at yourself and accurately assess your own behavior.

      Sure, 99%+ of Ambots fail in Amway, Cas! Someone might say. And they're right. I mean, statistically it's not hard at all for me to make that guess. But how do I know for 100% sure that you're a failure in Amway, Robl? Don't you wonder?

      It's because I know that the few people who make a good living at Amway who AREN'T close family members of the founding scammers have to work their goddamned asses at it. I mean like 120+ hour weeks, Robl. They sleep 3-4 hours a night to barely clear Platinum/Emerald status.

      If you were successful at Amway, you absolutely wouldn't have any goddamned time to play at being a Crusader Knight Paladin to defend your golden calf idols from infidels and apostates. You would be worn to a nub just fighting to maintain your status in the scam.

      But here you are. And lookie there, you even confirm that opinion by flat-out saying you're fucking losing at Amway: "not just about money, we are more successful in our relationships, in life and our family."

      Robl, don't lie: you've already cut a great many people from your life for criticizing your golden calf idol. Ambots have shit-tier personal lives. They only have their fellow scammers, and they can't even trust them. A real business owner doesn't start a business for any reason but to make money. If it doesn't make money, they don't do it. You're not making money, so your cult leaders have indoctrinated you to believe that other valid reasons lead you to remain paying into the Amway scam.

      Fucking scam, that's all it is, Robl. And your only response is to demand people SHUT UP AND QUIT TALKING ABOUT YOUR IDOL. Silencing works in your tribe, Robl, but it doesn't work outside of it. You just look like a ridiculous authoritarian throwing a temper tantrum.

      Go ahead, Robl. Rage and whine and make demands. Go ahead. You're still a loser in Amway, and you reveal your hand with every comment you write.

      How much will you lose before you start wondering if Amway's actually on the level? How many people will you cut out of your life? How much more will you sin by disobeying the direct commands of your Lord Jesus?

      The mind boggles at your sheer hypocrisy.

      Cas

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    4. LOL Anonymous! Draw circles for dimwits! That's what his Amway cult leader does at every meeting Robl goes to!

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    5. Hey tell it like it is Cas!

      All Amway Ambots are two faced hypocrites.

      Robl is one of those stinker thinkers that Amway cult leaders preach about hating.

      Yeah, like I always say the only way you're going to get rich from Amway is if you're one of the VanAndel or Devos heirs. Or marry one of them.

      Failing that you'd have be a founder of one of Amway's cult sects to make lots of money from the Amway tool scam. And even then you're probably living an overextended lifestyle.

      Maybe Amway cult leaders can silence their brainwashed Ambots. But the rest of the world who escaped Amway can tell it like it is - financial and emotional distress. We can talk about Amway's shitty overpriced products and how we got scammed out of our money and were abused by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. Amway Ambots hate it when we share our true life experiences. So fuck those Amway losers. We talk about our experiences and hope that we can stop others from making the same mistakes.

      Robl hates to hear the truth. Fuck him.

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    6. LOL thanks Anna!

      Did you see that recent YT doco about LuLaRoe? (The first part is called "Leggings, Lies, & Lawsuits.") It comes out that all of LLR's top sellers are directly related to the Stidhams by blood or marriage. ALL of them. Of course, the Stidhams keep that very much on the down-low. They actually insult the many huns who wash out of the scam by accusing them of not working hard enough. What absolute fucking TRASH people these two scammers are!

      And I'm betting it's the same exact situation with Amway.

      I sometimes wonder just when Amway lost control of its critics. You probably remember they tried to buy Eric's silence when he quit Amway--and he thinks they tried to physically intimidate him into silence. But I guess there are just so many more burned ex-Ambots and so many avenues they can use to discuss their concerns and experiences that Amway's owners just couldn't keep them all under control.

      I love it when authoritarians try to silence critics and apostates. Love love love. It just highlights how truly impotent they are. If they could bring more powerful pressure to bear, they absolutely would do it. But all they've got is their foot-soldiers screeching at people to SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP. And you're living proof that it just doesn't work outside their own meetings.

      Heart you gal, here's to another 10 years of awesomeness. Fuck Amway, and fuck the Ambots who try to shut you up.

      Cas

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    7. Hi Cas. No I didn't see that, but just the other day I read an article on Buzzfeed that was really long and me with my short attention span kept taking breaks. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits

      Yup Lularoe is another pyramid scheme bringing financial ruin to participants. Also a family run business and run by people who really have no business background but have history of being tax cheats.

      The first time I heard of Lularoe was a few years ago. A friend was wearing a pair of leggings to Disneyland. First time she wore them after buying them. About 4 hours later she must have felt a draft and realized the leggings were busting apart at the ass. So a lot of happy families in the happiest place of earth must have got a good look at her underwear. She was also wearing a Lularoe scarf that she was able to double as a skirt to cover her ass. Good thing she wasn't going commando that day! So Lularoe also sells substandard low quality products just like ScAmway.

      Amway and Ambots HATE the 5th Amendment. It's not against the law to tell the truth about our experiences and share our opinions.

      And how do those Amway losers respond? Screeching that our real life experiences are lies and shut up and take down this blog immediately. They hate anything that's really high in the search engines about their beloved Amway.

      Oh yeah we're coming up 10 years this summer!

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  18. Anna, you've been fucking Amway up the ass for ten years now. And you've done a damned good job!

    Here' hoping that you'll continue for many years more, and that you'll fuck them right out of business.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Yeah it's a long time to hang in there but it's worth it when we can help others not get hooked into the Amway scam. A lot of bloggers come and go - see the right side of this page for some of the graveyard. There's only so much personal experience a person has. Or you get bored or tired of it and decide to put blogging about ScAmway behind you. We're hoping to hang in long enough to see Amway shut its doors for good.

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  19. (Part 1 of 2):

    I am so glad that I found this, so firstly I want to thank you so much for creating this and putting the info out there / giving us a platform to share our mutual experiences with this insanity. I found this page when I was listening to a podcast in which the speaker used the word "goad" and it was like a switch flipped in my brain and instantly unlocked a mass of repressed memories from my childhood.

    My parents were Ambots and so reading all of these testimonies from you and in the comments is extremely validating. Looking back, all of it feels very cult-like. I even remember questioning the logic of it all, and my parents telling me that I just didn't understand because I was a kid. My and my sister's world was totally wrapped up in and focused on all this madness as kids, we were constsntly bombarded with all of the propaganda, our parents would make us use all of the products (which were always shitty) and nothing else, the manner in which our parents spoke was all recycled brainwash-speak and they never stopped talking about it all, and we either constantly had strangers at our house for our parents to "show them the plan", or our parents were gone at those functions getting further brainwashed themselves.

    It's all really sad looking back. We never really had much, struggled to get by, and what we did have was all apparently paid for via credit cards (which obviously didn't end well for our family in the long run. I'm 27 years old now and only recently just found that out). Our parents were so focused on their "dream" that, looking back, I realize that they were never really there for us. I thought that was normal at the time, so it's super upsetting but also comforting now to understand that maybe THAT is a big part of why I became so messed up as a teenager/adult.

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    1. Hi Violet. I'm glad you found us! This is the place where we make fun of everything Amway! And curse out the assholes in the Amway upline.

      There's been a lot of AmKids leaving comments here over the years. If it brings you some comfort your story is very similar. Many AmKids talk about parents who lost good paying jobs due to their devotion to the Great Amway God. AmKids talk about wanting to go to other kids birthday parties and needing to buy a present. The Ambot parents "counsel with upline" who tell them not to buy the birthday kid a present because that money could be better spent investing in their "own business" and buying more Amway shit. AmKids talk about "vacations" to the towns where Amway cult meetings are taking place and being left alone in hotel rooms with the TV as a babysitter. Instead the kids set out to explore the town. There's never in money because the parents spend it all tithing the Great Amway God. They go in to debt to do this too. Life is a struggle for AmKids because the other kids make fun of them for having Ambot parents who can't afford to buy them the cool stuff that other kids have.

      Any of those ring a bell with you?

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  20. (Part 2 of 2):

    Our family was but a mere facade, a projection of what they thought a family was supposed to look like in this "dream", when really they were too busy being led astray to experience being a family together. The dream never came true for them (shocker), but per the Amway mentality, they only blamed themselves and eachother for the failure, leading to the inevitable dissolution of our family. A wedge was driven between our parents due to this and they ended up splitting up. My sister, who always felt isolated, ended up moving very far away and barely talks to any of us anymore. I was never taught how to live, so growing up hit me like a ton of bricks and I ended up with a crippling drug addiction that I only just recently have started to recover from. My mom lives alone and is extremely depressed, lonely, living her life like it ended with the "dream" and barely getting by on disability. My dad is basically homeless and tortures himself, still blaming himself for everything going wrong and has very poor physical health due to being extremely overworked, yet still clings to this idea that if he works hard enough maybe he can still go back and make the dream work out this time.

    All of the credit card debt (from investing in amway without actuslly having initial money, and quitting their regular jobs to put all of their time into it) ended up catching up with them, and as a result we are now all very poor and struggle to survive day to day. I believe in taking responsiblity for one's own life, and try to never take the easy way out and blame misfortune on anything but one's own actions. But now that I have just remembered ALL of this repressed shit, and found that others have been affected by it as well, it is beginning to seem like (by poisoning my parents, who were responsible for molding my life as a child) maybe Amway actually set my life up for failure before I ever even really had a fair chance, and played a huge part in ruining my chance at having a family or a normal childhood. That being said, even just listening back to these ridiculous (borderline scary, considering the context) songs by The Goads gives me some sense of nostalgic happiness, as it reminds me of a time in which I was innocent and thought I had a normal childhood and a loving family. Joke's on me, I guess ��

    I don't mean to sound like "oh, woe is me and it is all amway's fault!", but I am JUST NOW re-discovering all of this, and it seems like so much of the suffering that I had always assumed was normal is actually NOT normal and is merely a result of this diabolical scam/cult. What's worse, I just reached out to my mom to talk to her about all of this, and she is STILL BRAINWASHED, got very defensive and angry, and refused to listen to reason, resolving to stay loyal to these people that destroyed her life. So, yeah, I'm fucking pissed, and it kills me to think that this is still happening to other kids out there. So I want to share my story in hopes that others in similar situations might wake up from the twisted fantasy also, just hopefully sooner than I did.

    Lastly, I just want to say thank you to everyone else who has shared their experiences, as well as anyone who took the time to read all of this.

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    1. Violet - there are many lies we hear at Amway cult meetings and one of them is that Amway saves marriages. Bullshit! Marriage is tough enough without throwing in a money-hungry cult.

      The Internet is full of stories about Amway causing divorce and breaking up families. Amway is evil. Amway brings misery to people's lives and causes financial and emotional distress.

      If you're in Amway when you're young like early 20's and lose a shitload of money including going into big credit card debt before quitting you're still young enough to bounce back financially because you have decades of working years left in you. When you're older and your working years are running out it's tougher to get yourself back financially. Your parents lives are very sad. Amway destroyed their lives. And your mother doesn't accept that. Just goes to show what brainwashing does to a person. They're brainwashed to believe it's their fault they couldn't become bazillionaires in Amway because they didn't try hard enough.

      Your sister is doing what she has to to protect herself. No different than other kids of cult followers who make a choice to get away from that evil, negative influence. You sound like a really nice person wanting to help your parents out but maybe for your own sanity you need to do what your sister did. And not feel guilty about it. Your parents devoted their lives to Amway the Cult of Greed and destroyed your childhood because of their addiction. It's time for you to live the life you're meant to have.

      If you haven't already done so there's a link on the right side of the page under More Amway Info to a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. You need to read that and it'll help you understand more about the Amway cult and how your parents were sucked in.

      And one things for sure. You'll never get sucked into a scam MLM!

      And I thank you for sharing your story with us Violet. I'm going to bring your story up in a post later this year because a lot of people might miss your comments because it's on an older post.

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  21. The fact that Violet's mother is in poverty and is barely getting by on disability, but STILL thinks the Amway plan is a great idea... well, that's really scary. It shows that Amway is an evil mind-control cult.

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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
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