Our Amway upline told Ambot and I to gather a name list of
everyone we know. To help us out they gave us a prompt sheet to use to help jog
our memory that we know more people than we think we know. The people we know
that we don’t know that we already know. This prompt list consisted of friends,
family, the cashier at the gas station, the mailman, the garbageman, etc. I
don’t really remember the suggestions on the list. I wasn’t too enthused about
working on a list. A list of people on an Amway ambot list meant those people
were doomed to be harrassed to come to Amway meetings, be scammed into signing
up to be an IBO, or be pressured into buying useless overpriced shitty Amway
products. I decided to be difficult and only listed people I knew who Ambot
also knew so that left out a lot of people I went to school with and former
coworkers from before we met.
The big problem when getting involved in Amway for a second time is that we had already pestered everyone we knew the last time around to attend an Amway meeting or buy Amway products. Any names on our list would be tortured again to be shown a board plan.
Our Platinum bragged he had 1000 people on his list at any time. Sure enough he showed us his notebook and pages and pages of names many with notations written beside them. He suggested using Facebook to make new friends and then snipe the friends of Facebook friends and put them on your list. Conceivably you could have hundreds of people on your Amway name list and not know any of them in person. Within the first couple of weeks of signing up for Amway Ambot and I came up with a list of over 200 people that he showed to the Platinum.
Now its one thing to come up with a list of a bunch of people that you might see casually during a month. Its another thing to actually have their phone numbers or know them well enough to ask for their number. I mean how many people snipe the water meter reader and ask for his home number. All Ambots raise your hands! What about when I’m at Starbucks. Its one thing to ask my favorite barista to make me a triple venti raspberry mocha with an extra shot of espresso and whipped cream and another to ask for her phone number.
I think Ambot put down the names of every former co-worker he ever had even though he didn’t keep in touch with them nor knew how to get in contact with them.
So we had this list of names of people we were supposed to bug to come to Amway meetings. I suppose from time to time Ambot looked at it and called someone whose number he actually had to harrass them into coming to an Amway meeting. Not too much we can do about the people on our name list whose phone numbers we don’t know. Even though we and other IBO’s were told to make the list and show it to the Platinum as proof we’d done it no one upline ever talked about the list afterwards or referred to that list again or asked if we were contacting any of the people on our name list.
In other words one of the first things the upline had us do was create a list of names of people we knew, then make notations if they were hot or cold as prospects and then they didn’t particularly care if we were contacting these people.
It was more important for the upline to badger their downline to buy more products and buy more tools than to follow up on their name list and what exactly they're accomplishing with the name list. Or at least in our WWDB group. Lousy phony ass leadership training program that it was - better known as World Wide Destructive Bastards due to its main training of destroying relationships of their ambots if they had a significant other who was not interested in wasting their money in this scam.
After we were long gone from the Amway cult I figured it out with a little help from former IBO’s. The name list is to give the IBO hope. Even though the IBO is not having any luck persuading prospects to come to an Amway meeting or finding customer to buy overpriced shitty Amway products as long as there are still names left on the list then there is hope. Hope that there is still a fleeting chance of signing up a downline. Hope that there is still a chance of finding a customer to pay too much money for an Amway product instead of shopping at their grocery store for a better product at a better price.
Sell the hope! Not the soap!
The big problem when getting involved in Amway for a second time is that we had already pestered everyone we knew the last time around to attend an Amway meeting or buy Amway products. Any names on our list would be tortured again to be shown a board plan.
Our Platinum bragged he had 1000 people on his list at any time. Sure enough he showed us his notebook and pages and pages of names many with notations written beside them. He suggested using Facebook to make new friends and then snipe the friends of Facebook friends and put them on your list. Conceivably you could have hundreds of people on your Amway name list and not know any of them in person. Within the first couple of weeks of signing up for Amway Ambot and I came up with a list of over 200 people that he showed to the Platinum.
Now its one thing to come up with a list of a bunch of people that you might see casually during a month. Its another thing to actually have their phone numbers or know them well enough to ask for their number. I mean how many people snipe the water meter reader and ask for his home number. All Ambots raise your hands! What about when I’m at Starbucks. Its one thing to ask my favorite barista to make me a triple venti raspberry mocha with an extra shot of espresso and whipped cream and another to ask for her phone number.
I think Ambot put down the names of every former co-worker he ever had even though he didn’t keep in touch with them nor knew how to get in contact with them.
So we had this list of names of people we were supposed to bug to come to Amway meetings. I suppose from time to time Ambot looked at it and called someone whose number he actually had to harrass them into coming to an Amway meeting. Not too much we can do about the people on our name list whose phone numbers we don’t know. Even though we and other IBO’s were told to make the list and show it to the Platinum as proof we’d done it no one upline ever talked about the list afterwards or referred to that list again or asked if we were contacting any of the people on our name list.
In other words one of the first things the upline had us do was create a list of names of people we knew, then make notations if they were hot or cold as prospects and then they didn’t particularly care if we were contacting these people.
It was more important for the upline to badger their downline to buy more products and buy more tools than to follow up on their name list and what exactly they're accomplishing with the name list. Or at least in our WWDB group. Lousy phony ass leadership training program that it was - better known as World Wide Destructive Bastards due to its main training of destroying relationships of their ambots if they had a significant other who was not interested in wasting their money in this scam.
After we were long gone from the Amway cult I figured it out with a little help from former IBO’s. The name list is to give the IBO hope. Even though the IBO is not having any luck persuading prospects to come to an Amway meeting or finding customer to buy overpriced shitty Amway products as long as there are still names left on the list then there is hope. Hope that there is still a fleeting chance of signing up a downline. Hope that there is still a chance of finding a customer to pay too much money for an Amway product instead of shopping at their grocery store for a better product at a better price.
Sell the hope! Not the soap!
The Amway "name list" is a total absurdity, and this is being recognized and exploited by independent operators on the internet, who are offering persons a plan on how to generate hot leads who will come to you, rather than you trying to solicit them.
ReplyDeleteThese independent operators openly admit that the idea of making up a list of random friends and acquaintances is utterly useless. It doesn't work, they tell you. What you need is a specialized kind of internet appeal that will draw interested parties to contact you. And they offer to give you advice and directions on how to do it (for a fee, of course).
What this means is that more and more Amway IBOs (and persons in other MLMs) are starting to realize that cold-calling friends, relatives, old acquaintances or co-workers is essentially futile. IT DOESN'T WORK! Neither will hanging around shopping malls to pester people, or annoying browsers at Barnes & Noble, or chatting up strangers at Starbucks. Only assholes and losers think that will work. So Amway IBOs are getting desperate.
I don't know Anonymous. Do those MLM losers really think cold-calling friends, relatives, old acquaintances or co-workers and hanging around shopping malls, Barnes & Noble, and Starbucks doesn't work? Because they don't stop doing it! LOL! The rest of the world who are free thinkers can see that doesn't work but Ambots? Obviously not cause they keep at it. As ordered by their Amway cult leaders. I think the Amway cult leaders come up with all these useless tasks to keep Ambots busy and brainwashed that they're big important business owners cause they're always doing something like making a list of names or pestering strangers. That's what Amway losers think being a businessman is all about! LOL!
DeleteYeah wouldn't we all like to buy a list of hot leads who will come to us instead of us trying to convince them to buy something.
They've been doing this name list thing since someone tried to recruit me in the mid-90s. The Ambot had dozens of names on his list and he tried to talk me into making a similar list. Then he persuaded me to call one of them -- a distant co-worker in another town that I didn't know especially well. It was a cringeworthy enough phone call that I ended it as soon as I could and told the Ambot that I'd done as much as anybody could ask to see if "the business" was right for me, and I'd determined that it was not, and we were all done playing this reindeer game. To his credit, he kinda backed off trying to recruit me. I feel so bad for that co-worker. That was five minutes of her life she'd never get back--even though she was tentatively positive about meeting to find out about this "opportunity." It was so incredibly cringe.
ReplyDeleteCold calling DOES. NOT. WORK. It never has. It never will. I have no idea what gets into an Ambot's head to think it's any way to do business. Greed, I guess.
Cas
Hi Cas. I bet that Amway name list goes back further than the 90s! I hear you on the cringeworthy. It's really embarrassing to tell others that you're doing Amway because everyone laughs at you for being a dumb ass who got sucked into the scam.
DeleteOh yeah we can see real fast that Amway is not "the business" for us. Lying and scamming others to make money is so wrong on so many levels.
Amway - the Cult of Greed.
https://www.amwayglobal.com/newsroom/direct-selling-leader-amway-announces-2019-sales-of-8-4-billion-usd/
ReplyDeleteThe sales numbers are in!
Yup Amway sales are down again but not as much as before when they were dropping by about 10% every year. This past year their sales revenue dropped by only 5%.
DeleteHere's some more reading: https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2020/02/amways-2019-sales-down-5-percent.html
and https://www.directsellingnews.com/amway-reports-2019-sales-of-8-4-billion/
Got to provide the links because fucking Amway losers are always showing up here screeching they can't find this information online when it only took a quick search using 3 words. That last article says:
Amway’s top ten markets include China, the U.S., Korea, Japan, Thailand, Taiwan, India, Russia, Malaysia and Hong Kong.
Are those countries and that part of a world a shocker or not? Japan surprises me.
The Japs will do anything that has the label "Made in USA" on it. Playing golf, eating steak, drinking bourbon, dressing in business suits -- if it's American, Japan loves it.
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