As most regular readers know, we’re big on recycling around
here. LOL. Go green!
No actually we recycle most of the posts so stick around long enough and you’ll see them come up again. Sometimes I take a look at old comments and found this one on a post I recycled not too long ago. One of the readers was being prospected by an Ambot and quite thankful to found this blog and had asked a couple of questions about that less than 1% of Ambots make money in Scamway. So here’s my response which actually stands alone pretty good as its own post and its good because I pulled the percentages that were referred to a few years ago on the small print of Amway’s brochure.
Anonymous - I'm glad you've found my blog too! Everything exactly as I said and I have had people who were involved in Amway 15, 20 years ago and say exactly what I said happened to us happened years ago to them to, upline said the exact same things nothing changes.
You have dodged the bullet! Thankfully or you will have many months of financial and emotional devastation ahead of you!
Look at the Amway promotional material your friends gave you. You will be looking at something that's got lots of circles and lots of dollar amounts and PV amounts and lots of mumbo jumbo that doesn't make sense. Somewhere there will be really small print that tells you the percentage of IBOs who actually make the amount of money quoted.
There is a reason why Amway's promotional information says the average IBO earns $115/month - though I hear the dollar amount has increased sometime in the past few months I have not seen the new marketing information. First of all most people in Amway rarely earn a commission check more than $10 a month and to earn that you have to buy around $300 in Amway products. So already you're in the hole! Lets take that $115 in fact I'll be generous and bump it up to $120 cause round numbers are easier for me to work with! You have to spend 10 to 15 hours a week working part time to earn that average income. Times 4 weeks in a month. Lets go to the high end 15 hours a week x 4 weeks = 60 hours a month. To earn $120 average a month in Amway? Do the math. $2/hour! Way less than minimum wage at least in this part of the world!
Don't kid yourself that you'll only put in 60 hours a month. My husband put in at least 100 hours a month wasting his time in the Amway business.
There was a discussion on Amthrax blog a couple of years ago and somebody posted a link to the Amway business overview. (here I reference a dead link. The Ambot who I assume is no longer with Scamway had uploaded the Amway “business” overview no point in everyone else clicking on a dead web page)
You got to go in a few pages and look for the small print. It shows 2 levels of Platinum and how many IBOs earn that much: one Platinum level that the percentage of IBO's reach is .346% and the other is .164%
You will also note that .0726% of IBO's will actually make $95,000. That would be gross. You probably have to buy a few thousand a month in Amway products to earn that much money. I've seen videos on Youtube of former Emeralds which is a pretty high level saying they were making between $2000 and $3000/month in Amway.
Here is a good book to read, its a free download called Merchants of Deception and it is a really chilling read when you realize that you have escaped this hell. He also tells in the book how over 99% of IBOs will not make money in Amway.
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/
And there you have it folks. And an easy peasy post for here that will wind up in the recycle cycle every few years!
No actually we recycle most of the posts so stick around long enough and you’ll see them come up again. Sometimes I take a look at old comments and found this one on a post I recycled not too long ago. One of the readers was being prospected by an Ambot and quite thankful to found this blog and had asked a couple of questions about that less than 1% of Ambots make money in Scamway. So here’s my response which actually stands alone pretty good as its own post and its good because I pulled the percentages that were referred to a few years ago on the small print of Amway’s brochure.
Anonymous - I'm glad you've found my blog too! Everything exactly as I said and I have had people who were involved in Amway 15, 20 years ago and say exactly what I said happened to us happened years ago to them to, upline said the exact same things nothing changes.
You have dodged the bullet! Thankfully or you will have many months of financial and emotional devastation ahead of you!
Look at the Amway promotional material your friends gave you. You will be looking at something that's got lots of circles and lots of dollar amounts and PV amounts and lots of mumbo jumbo that doesn't make sense. Somewhere there will be really small print that tells you the percentage of IBOs who actually make the amount of money quoted.
There is a reason why Amway's promotional information says the average IBO earns $115/month - though I hear the dollar amount has increased sometime in the past few months I have not seen the new marketing information. First of all most people in Amway rarely earn a commission check more than $10 a month and to earn that you have to buy around $300 in Amway products. So already you're in the hole! Lets take that $115 in fact I'll be generous and bump it up to $120 cause round numbers are easier for me to work with! You have to spend 10 to 15 hours a week working part time to earn that average income. Times 4 weeks in a month. Lets go to the high end 15 hours a week x 4 weeks = 60 hours a month. To earn $120 average a month in Amway? Do the math. $2/hour! Way less than minimum wage at least in this part of the world!
Don't kid yourself that you'll only put in 60 hours a month. My husband put in at least 100 hours a month wasting his time in the Amway business.
There was a discussion on Amthrax blog a couple of years ago and somebody posted a link to the Amway business overview. (here I reference a dead link. The Ambot who I assume is no longer with Scamway had uploaded the Amway “business” overview no point in everyone else clicking on a dead web page)
You got to go in a few pages and look for the small print. It shows 2 levels of Platinum and how many IBOs earn that much: one Platinum level that the percentage of IBO's reach is .346% and the other is .164%
You will also note that .0726% of IBO's will actually make $95,000. That would be gross. You probably have to buy a few thousand a month in Amway products to earn that much money. I've seen videos on Youtube of former Emeralds which is a pretty high level saying they were making between $2000 and $3000/month in Amway.
Here is a good book to read, its a free download called Merchants of Deception and it is a really chilling read when you realize that you have escaped this hell. He also tells in the book how over 99% of IBOs will not make money in Amway.
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/
And there you have it folks. And an easy peasy post for here that will wind up in the recycle cycle every few years!
Another flaw in the Scamway marketing system: Whether you sell a single can of XS energy cat piss out of the 50 cases of it you bought from them that are now filling your closets or one bottle of half assed detergent that you have boxes of filling up your spare bedroom and garage, you first bought it from Scamway at an inflated "wholesale" cost. That's because you not only paid the true wholesale cost of their overpriced product itself but also the added commission cost you must pay to your direct upline and every other layer of upline going back to the 1950's when they started the thing. This added cost provides no added value to the product but makes it more expensive to buy and too expensive to sell other than pity sales to your mother and best friend (if they remain your friend through your Scamway experience). If your mother is not living your sales might be zero.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely Ray! The padded prices on Amway products have to do with making sure everyone in your Amway upline earns commission everytime the little guy at the bottom of the pyramid makes a sale. If you're the little guy then people you probably don't even know are making pennies commission for the hard work you put into making that sale. Because it's really hard to convince people to buy overpriced shitty products!
DeleteThere is no added value to Amway's high priced products no matter how much bullshitting Amway assholes do that the high prices reflect Amway's high quality. LOL! The high prices reflect all the people in the Amway upline who make commission plus a big profit for Amway's owners!
What online retailers are seeing an increase in their sales these days? Is it Amway? Or is it companies with good reputations like Amazon and Walmart? If your local grocer offers delivery they're seeing increased business. It'll be very interesting to see next year when Amway reports their revenue. Amway's top 10 markets are China, the U.S., Korea, Japan, Thailand, Taiwan, India, Russia, Malaysia and Hong Kong. How many residents of these countries if they're dealing with job loss and no income can continue to buy Amway's shitty overpriced products?