tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post365086494011795459..comments2024-03-18T16:33:45.162-07:00Comments on Married to an Ambot: Amway Cult Warning SignsAnna Bananahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05373457126465029723noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-37485590055337297052011-06-09T09:31:53.820-07:002011-06-09T09:31:53.820-07:00Yes - Joecool writes a few blogs Amway The Dream o...Yes - Joecool writes a few blogs Amway The Dream or the Scheme and The Truth about the Amway Global Opportunity and another one about his WWDB experiences. I don't have the link but he will on one of his other pages.<br /><br />There are some Amway lovers who think Joecool writes every anti-Amway blog out there including this one.Anna Bananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373457126465029723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-49588924511009104872011-06-09T08:50:17.422-07:002011-06-09T08:50:17.422-07:00Are one of the links to the upper right Joecool...Are one of the links to the upper right Joecool's blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-19939818334813172382011-06-08T12:53:34.100-07:002011-06-08T12:53:34.100-07:00No problem on the rants. Mine are much longer!
I ...No problem on the rants. Mine are much longer!<br /><br />I doubt that Amway the company started out thinking they were destined to become a cult. They can thank their overzealous lines of sponsorship and the leaders and their training for that tag.<br /><br />That said - Amway the company does not do their part to clean up their act.<br /><br />Love bombing did not work on me. I'm too suspicious of people who are very obviously fakey nicey nicey and want to hug and smooch people they've just met. Now if I was 18 and lived in a co-ed dorm at university that might be kind of fun! Amway and other cult followers go overboard. Extreme love bombing!<br /><br />I'm sure my former upline have long ago tagged me as evil!<br /><br />I don't get too many mindless defenders showing up here. When they do I usually feature a blog post about them! The bloggers who are more focused on showing Amway as a bad business opportunity tend to get those cult followers. The weirdest one of course is from Scarborough Canada - maybe your cousin??? - and shows up on Joecool's blog. He's come here a few times but not recently. Responding to someone cursing out their former upline isn't as much fun as threatening a blogger who dissects the Amway opportunity I guess. <br /><br />They can laugh at me and my J.O.B. all they want. I'd like to see any one of them prove that I actually have a job and work outside of my home. <br /><br />This is my entertainment. I can always make time to entertain myself between doing the laundry and the gardening!Anna Bananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373457126465029723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-80819469204827363032011-06-08T12:00:10.060-07:002011-06-08T12:00:10.060-07:00...The only reason that hardcore Amway followers d......The only reason that hardcore Amway followers don't see that cult comparison is because they have been sucked in to where they no longer have the ability to think rationally and logically. I see them post defenses on anti-Amway blogs where they parrot things they have heard in the tapes and seminars and you can tell it's all the cliches and hard to follow "logic" they were taught of why they are not a cult and are a legitimate business model. They try to make comparisons to Coca Cola or IBM, but it makes no sense as their employees don't go into debt for years while "working" for them. They point out Amway as being "debt free" as proof it works, but don't see how it's all the individual distributors who are up to their necks in debt while the company upline always gets THEIR money. I saw one write comparing the rise of Abraham Lincoln to an Amway distributor! lol "Fore score and seven tubes of Glister ago..." <br />I'm sure you get plenty of mindless defenders writing to you asking why you hate success so much or must have too much time on your hands to pursue such negative dream stealing. They laugh at you being a slave to your "j.o.b." and never going to get anywhere, regardless of the fact odds are you have a better car, house and income then they do. And they usually end it by boasting they'll toast you from the beaches of Tahiti by next year. Of course, that "Diamond" day never comes, but they will never stop the "dream" that it is only a month or so away. Dreams are nice. But they have to be based somewhat in reality. Heck, I dream of one day growing feathers and flying through the sky, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen anytime soon. And since less than 2% of anyone in Amway really "makes it", they probably shouldn't hold their breath either.<br />~Dave<br />P.S. Sorry for how long my rants can be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-72436316188723199762011-06-08T11:58:58.704-07:002011-06-08T11:58:58.704-07:00Amway bristles at the "cult" comparison,...Amway bristles at the "cult" comparison, but as you note in your article, the signs of a cult read as a virtual check list of how Amway sucks people in.<br /><br />I had two cousins in Canada who each got sucked into whacko cult religions (and not the same one, oddly enough). The comparisons to Amway were eerily striking. First the initial contact and starting a quick and close friendship, the "excited" joy (and ego boosting) to tell them that God had chosen them as a select few, and to come to meetings (indoctrination) to learn more. Like Amway, they are vague and deceptive in the beginning as to what it all will entail (the "reeling in" stage I call it as they have to be careful not to scare them away while they still have the ability to think). The flock "lovebombs" them to make them feel special and selected. Then the standard brainwashing techniques of long meetings and seminars with little food or water, constant hammering of the mind to shatter any individual thought or ability to question or doubt, demanding more and more of their time to be devoted only to their group "message" and then the bleeding of their finances. One of my cousins I know was expected to give the cult 40% of all his earnings. His wife was left to work two jobs and beg grandparents to watch kids and provide food and clothing. The brainwashed loses all perspective of this being wrong. The cult works hard to cultivate an attitude of the "chosen one" having to prove their faith to God, and all friends and family not involved in the cult are to be ignored and shunned as "the devil speaks through them, trying to make you stumble on your journey to heaven. They are all going to burn in hell." He actually said outright to his parents, wife and small children that they were going to hell. Nice, huh? And all the hardships he put himself and family through were just "part of the journey to heaven". And the elders at the church were completely infallible. They knew what was best. Everyone outside of their circle were "evil" because they were not "one of them". ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-63070029918458364912011-06-07T20:34:27.117-07:002011-06-07T20:34:27.117-07:00Dave - I had a good response and then my Internet ...Dave - I had a good response and then my Internet went out and then came back! Anyone want to guess who my server is! Ha! <br /><br />The Amway cult leaders don't say "worthy" they say "you haven't earned the privilege". That might be to meet someone higher up in Amway but it could also mean quitting your job, taking time out of your day to go to the gym, watching TV, or doing something else instead of attending an Amway meeting. <br /><br />It is always the IBO's fault they didn't succeed. They didn't try hard enough, they weren't CORE, they didn't exactly duplicate their upline, etc. <br /><br />It is never the fault of a system that was designed for failure.<br /><br />Our Platinum would rant and scold you one minute and the next minute say "but we still love you".<br /><br />Sick son of a bitch. He's absolutely the type that wants you to thank him for screwing you over.Anna Bananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373457126465029723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-45226971681786706052011-06-07T19:40:39.649-07:002011-06-07T19:40:39.649-07:00Part of mind control is making the brainwashed thi...Part of mind control is making the brainwashed think that all the things the cult leaders are "advising" them to do is THEIR idea and decision. They dangle carrots in front of them, both of phony promises of good things if they are "worthy" enough to earn them, as well as emotional carrots of "love" and "acceptance" for following instructions unquestioningly. The brainwashed are convinced that the goal set is easily obtainable, and if they don't get it as promised, it is THEIR fault for not being worthy enough. No matter how screwed up their finances and lives become chasing the pipe dream, they defend their cult leaders vehemently. I've seen the brainwashed claim that regardless of their lack of success and destitution, they feel they are "better" people because of the experience. <br /><br />They say that the ultimate con men are the ones that not only screw someone over, but get them to thank them for it afterward.<br /><br />~DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-44354735203701527432011-06-07T17:49:41.777-07:002011-06-07T17:49:41.777-07:00Joecool - you and I both know its dead on and is r...Joecool - you and I both know its dead on and is referring to Amway and WWDB. Now all thats left to do is for some brainwashed ambots to show up here and deny they're being brainwashed into a cult!Anna Bananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373457126465029723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623443549536997676.post-612329833735965962011-06-07T12:34:06.577-07:002011-06-07T12:34:06.577-07:00Spot on! It sounds just like Amway and WWDB. Th...Spot on! It sounds just like Amway and WWDB. The problem is that when you are active, oftentimes you don't see that you got sucked into a cult like organization. It was the submission thing that started to get me thinking what the hell is with these guys.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.com