Thursday, November 20, 2014

MUST Attend Amway WWDB Dream Night


As soon as WWDB Amway Free Enterprise Days FED has ended, at every Amway cult meeting over the next couple of months the pressure is on for Ambots to attend World Wide Dream Builders Amway Dream Night.

The Amway cult leaders drill into their followers that they MUST attend all Amway functions and they can’t miss Dream Night. It’s the not to be missed event of the year. It’s a life changing opportunity. It’ll put the IBO 6 months ahead of the other ambots who don’t attend.

Wait a minute. Those fucking Amway assholes said the same thing about FED, Family Reunion, and Spring Leadership. We should be 2 years ahead of everyone right now and we’re not. Those fucking Amway cult leaders lied to us! Now there’s a shocker. Amway. Lies. They go hand in hand!

Always remember and never forget: if someone in Amway says something – it’s a LIE! Never believe anything a fucking Amway asshole says because they’re all liars. Easy to remember advice. Amway Ambot = liar.

I remember the Amway cult meetings leading up to Dream Night. Our sack of shit Platinum would demand everyone in the room tell him how many tickets they were buying for WWDB Dream Night. He would gloat that he’d bought 2 or 3 tables worth of tickets. I just don’t remember if the bastard said 2 or 3 but who gives a shit what that lying Amway asshole bullshits about. Whatever, lets say 10 people per table cause those banquet tables are big. Lets go with 20 people the lower number including the sack of shit and his wife. Tickets to Dream Night cost $70. That’s $1400 bucks right there to buy a bunch of disinterested people a holy shit expensive dinner. So the sack of shit goes around the room pointing at people. Some ambots faced huge abuse and humiliation when they said they didn’t know or weren’t sure they were going. Most said 2 or 3 tickets just to avoid getting a shit kicking from the fucking Platinum. Of course when the bastard gets to my Ambot he brags 10 tickets. What the fuck! $700!!! On Fucking Amway WWDB Dream Night?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That would make the Amway cult leaders happy. That’s about $500 to $600 profit they’re making on those ticket sales after they’ve paid the hotel the $15 per person catering meal price.

Then the obvious question – who the hell do we know that wants to go to a slimy scammy fucking Amway meeting. We haven’t been able to get anyone to come to an Amway cult meeting when they’re free and now Ambot wants to spend hundreds of dollars on 10 tickets. There’s going to be a lot of empty places at our table. Unless you’re a brainwashed ambot you don’t want to be anywhere near an Amway cult meeting.

So the pressure is on. The Amway cult leaders are riding the ambots asses to buy tickets for Dream Night and to give them a tally of how many tickets they’re buying. Don’t buy any tickets or don’t buy enough according to the fucking Amway asshole in the upline, then get ready to be abused.

My advice? Save your money. Don’t go to Amway WWDB Dream Night. And don’t let the Amway cult leaders force you into buying extra tickets because nobody is interested in a free meal that comes at the cost of being trapped in a room with a bunch of fucking Amway assholes and watching them pledge allegiance to the lying Amway cult leaders. Its just fucking creepy.

 

 

Tuesday, November 18, 2014

The Price Tag Of Getting Sucked Into Amway Cult


Thanks to AnonTB for providing some info on what to expect if signing up to Amway, advice for a woman whose husband is thinking of getting sucked into the cult:


1- You will need several hundred dollars a month to pay for product, books, tapes, meetings, rallies, gas. Ask him where that will come from, and what he/you will be sacrificing to pay for that. He may say that this phase won't last long, that you will soon be making enough money to cover expenses. Ask him to be specific: how many recruits do you need to break even, and how are you going to get those people?

2- The products are very expensive, and you will be buying far more product than you can use. If you don't buy products like this now, why are you going to be excited about buying them in the future, and why will you be excited about overbuying expensive products? If you can't get excited about the products, how successful will you be in convincing others to buy the products?
--> After the 3 week cooling off period, Instead of signing up as an IBO, ask your husband to just buy a bunch of product and use it for a month. See if his excitement for the product matches his excitement for the business "opportunity." That's a fair request. The business will still be there for him at the end of the month.

3- If you do become an IBO, your efforts will be in recruiting. Your earliest recruits will be people that you know. How will you feel about trying to sign up family/friends/neighbors by omitting key information that they need to make an informed decision, such as all the recurring monthly expenses (tools, web site, voicemail, meetings, excess product inventory, etc.)? This is called a lie of omission, and is essential to recruit people. Can you do this to people you know?

4- Your presenter mentioned he would not miss a meeting even if he was very sick with the flu. Ask yourself, why would you need to go to every meeting, even if you have no prospects there? Answer: there is no good reason, other than because they say that's what successful people do.

5- Tell your husband that if you don't join him as an IBO, Ambots have been known to try to get him to choose between you and Amway. Get him to commit to you that when this happens, he will leave the business. Not in a year. Not in a month. Now.

6- You mentioned that the Ambots you met were smart, educated people, too smart to fall for a bad opportunity. Therefore, it must be a good one. This is a fallacy of logic. This is what made Bernie Madoff able to convince lots of other smart people to give him $50 billion.

Don't EVER stop thinking for yourself or trusting your gut instincts.


Monday, November 17, 2014

Ambots Pay To Watch Amway Diamond Take A Shit?


I went to countless Amway meetings where the Diamond would brag and gloat about how he makes more money taking a shit than the Amway ambots in the audience make working their J.O.B. for a week. Or a month. Or a year. Apparently some profitable shitting (or bullshitting) going on here.

At other meetings I’d hear our sack of shit Platinum or Emerald making the same claims. About the Diamond that is. I don’t remember either of those Amway assholes saying they made the same money taking a shit as the Diamond did but they sure liked to brag about all the money Diamonds made shitting.

I’m sure there are people out there who’d like to know where they can get a paid J.O.B. where all they have to do is shit. Maybe you gotta get a job as a tester with a company that makes laxatives.

Someone posted a link to a video that features an Amway son of a bitch er make that the son of an Amway Diamond doing a bilingual interview sort of. The son of a bitch only spoke English. A couple of other guys are speaking Spanish in the intro and then one of them is translating. They’re at a hotel in Maui I don’t remember which one. Looks like a nice place but then one could say that about pretty much every hotel in Maui I suppose. So the son of a bitch is bragging about what a nice property this is and the suite he stays in and says there are so many beds that him and his wife were thinking they should bed hop. You know make the maids work extra hard making up all these extra beds but that’s just the way Amway assholes treat people beneath them. I bet those fuckers don’t even leave a tip for the maid either. You got that many extra beds I’m sure there are ambots out there sleeping 20 to a room who would take them. But anyway the son of a bitch starts on about the toilet. Wow wow wow toilet and that he should hold an Amway meeting in there sitting on the shitter. And yeah the translator does a great job of putting all this in Spanish.

I don’t know about the rest of you but when a man goes into the bathroom I don’t want to know what he’s doing in there and I sure as hell don’t want to be in there either!

But then I’m not an Amway Ambot! Those dumb fucks worship and go all gaga over a Diamond taking a shit.

You know how those Amway Diamonds are all bragging about how much money they make taking a shit maybe the way they’re making all this money shitting is they’re selling tickets and giving a brainwashing sermon at the same time. How would the Diamond do this? I mean you gotta get the timing right. Can’t hold it in and text downline and say be here in 20 minutes cause the Diamond might end up shitting his pants before he can collect ticket sales and lead the ambots into the bathroom. Probably tells Ambots to stand in line outside the house waiting for when the big moment will be announced. Tickets cost $50 each because after all that’s how Amway Diamonds make the bulk of their money selling tickets to dumb asses to come listen to them speak or in this case take a shit and speak. And they said those Amway assholes couldn’t do 2 things at the same time! LOL!!!!
 
And there would be a line outside the house because Amway ambots are so desperate to have any part of a Diamond that they’d pay to be there in the can with them. And then you gotta wonder which Ambot is going to have the “privilege” of wiping the Diamond’s ass afterwards. Probably have to pay extra for that! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!! And then Amway Diamond makes even more money taking bids to see who wants to flush! Or maybe the selling the logs! LOL!!! Dumb fuck ambots would probably buy it too! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

So what would the Diamond talk about other than how the shit’s progressing? Would he speak negative? This damn shit’s taking too long to come out! Would this be the time where he would bitch at the ambots for what they’re wearing? Seems a little silly to bitch about others wardrobes when he’s the one with his pants around his ankles. Would the Diamond sneer at everyone in the room - let’s say 10 Ambots showed up and bought a $50 ticket. I just made $500 taking a shit. How much money did YOU make during the time it took me to take a shit? Would he talk about the proper etiquette in taking a shit? Or would he just launch into a board plan meeting and use toilet paper to draw circles on. And guess what he uses to draw those circles! LOL!!!!

Yup the Amway Diamond sits on a throne of lies!

The rest of the world doesn’t care about a shitty Amway Diamond. The rest of the world doesn’t want to know nothing about how much an Amway Diamond makes everytime he shits and how much money he sells tickets for. These are things that only matter to a brainwashed Amway Ambot.

It’s a shitty job but an Amway ambot has to pay the big bucks to do it!

 

 

Thursday, November 13, 2014

Gonna Show Up Here And Bitch?


What exactly is the definition of “trying hard enough” when it comes to Amway? Clearly it is spending more than 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings, functions, prospecting, etc. It is clearly spending more than $1000/month on Amway and Amway tools like my ambot husband. And I know this because of those Amway assholes that show up here and bitch at us that we didn't try hard enough. Fucking sacks of shit that they are!

And how do the fucking Amway upline assholes motivate their cult followers to keep trying hard enough? Oh wait. Those bastards do not motivate. They brainwash. Like the good Amway cult leaders they have been trained to be, they scold, they mock, they insult, they punish, they blame. Even more than wanting to succeed at an Amway business, the followers want to please their leader. They try harder, they put in more effort like 100 hours a month wasn’t already trying hard enough. They buy more shitty overpriced Amway products like spending more than $1000 month wasn’t already good enough. The ambots are scolded and belittled time after time when they don’t get results. The Amway cult leaders blame the ambots for their own lack of success. But then what else do you expect from Amway: a blame the victim scam. And then those Amway ambots who just got ragged on by the cult leaders they love so much, get online, end up here and bitch at us just the way they just got bitched at from their Amway cult leaders.

These fucking Amway assholes never blame the Amway system designed for failure with only a fraction of 1% success rate to make money (according to Amway’s literature – look for the small print) and spending shitloads of money on Amway tools and overpriced Amway products. Blame the ambots instead! They didn’t try hard enough. Amway = blame the victim scam!

Fortunately, many IBO’s get tired of this degrading treatment and quit “the business”. Now the only thing they have to do is try hard enough to keep one step ahead of their Amway upline who will be hopping mad that they just lost this stream of income. That’s what happens when you bitch at people too much. They say fuck it I’m outta here.

These fucking Amway assholes show up to this blog with their attitude that they’re better than we are because they’re in Amway and the rest of the world who aren’t in Amway are broke losers. They bitch at us that we didn’t try hard enough. They bitch as us that you get out of Amway what you put into it. Fuck I’d sure like to get back the $20,000 or so we “invested” in Amway. Maybe those fucking Amway assholes that show up here saying we’ll get back what we put into Amway will tell us when we’re going to get that money back instead of bitching at us for not trying hard enough. So let’s just send out a big old FUCK YOU to the Amway ambots who keep showing up here saying we’ll get back what we put into Amway. Ambots will show up here and bitch that our Amway upline or line of sponsorship don’t know their piss from their shit and too bad we weren’t in a better group.

Bitch bitch bitch! Amway ambots bitch about this that and the other but mostly they bitch because there are places on the Internet where victims of the Amway scam can get their stories out there. Stories of emotional and financial distress. Getting abused by the assholes in their Amway upline. Spending hundreds of dollars buying shitty overpriced Amway products every month.

Let’s see where’s those fucking Amway assholes that say we’ll get back what we put into Amway. We put in thousands of dollars. Got maybe a hundred or so back in puny commission checks from Scamway. So everyone who shows up here to preach that - you’re just another bunch of fucking lying Amway assholes.

But when you’re a bunch of lying Amway assholes and you’re pissed off that your numbers are diminishing since the launch of the Internet and people are letting it be known how they got scammed, which limits your customer base, I guess you gotta go somewhere and bitch.
So lets send out a big old FUCK YOU to all Amway assholes that show up here to bitch.



Tuesday, November 11, 2014

Amway Ambots Refuse To Believe There Are Real Business Owners


Over and over I’ll get some fucked up brainwashed Amway ambot showing up here telling me I have a job. You know in that snide sneering Amway asshole way they have like saying have fun working for someone else for the rest of your life. Just because they’re in Amway that means they’re (pretend) business owners and that means they’re better than everyone else and they’re card carrying assholes who go around insulting everyone they think is below them.

Well when you’re on the bottom of the Amway pyramid its not like there’s anyone below you so you have to come to the Internet and get outraged at people who share their true stories of how they got scammed by Amway and how they suffered financial losses and emotional distress. The outraged Amway ambot is pissed off because when people get their stories out there on the Internet of what its really like being in the Amway cult then that’s going to help others make the right decision not to have anything to do with Amway = less money for the scambots. They don’t dare insult the fucking assholes in their Amway upline so they come to a blog where we have no problem insulting Amway assholes and oddly enough insult us instead. Its like they want even more abuse and are craving to be cursed out and made to look like bigger Amway assholes than they already are. We are happy to oblige those masochists!

These fucking Amway assholes refuse to believe that there are people in this world who do not work a job. Or in Amspeak a J.O.B. and say that with the contempt that an Amway ambot uses. There are a lot of real business owners in this world. Not Amway pretend business owners. Walk down the main street of any town and there will be businesses owned by real people who have nothing to do with Scamway.

But Amway assholes insult these real business owners for that reason – because its not an Amway business.

An Amway “business” earns most “business owners” around $10/month after they’ve spent hundreds of dollars buying shitty overpriced Amway products and tools.

Real business owners probably see a profit way better than that or they wouldn’t continue operating their store.

Amway ambots refuse to believe that people do other things with their lives than work a job, though technically speaking most people have some kind of job they do whether or not they make any money at it. And ambots are experts in knowing what its like to work hundreds of hours and not get paid! In the real world people operate businesses. They hire locals who need jobs and help with the economy. No fucking Amway asshole can say they hire staff to work at their business and they’re doing their part to contribute to the economy but then Amway IBO’s are pretend business owners who don’t make enough money to put gas in the car to get to their Amway meetings let alone pay wages. Other people are retired or semi-retired. Others are housewives or househusbands and their significant other is the breadwinner. But even these retired or homebodies aren’t sitting idle all day. They’ve got a household and maybe children to take care of. They’ve all got incomes of some sort – pension, savings.

That makes me wonder if Amway assholes would walk up to an elderly person in the street who is in a wheelchair or walker and sneer at them. “You have a J.O.B. and I’m better than you because I’m an Amway business owner.”

That’s the attitude of fucking assholes in Amway. Can’t accept that not everyone has a job working for someone.

According to a brainwashed Amway ambot – if you’re not an Amway “business owner” then that means you work a J.O.B.

And let’s point out the obvious. Most Amway ambots have jobs too. They need them to afford their expensive Amway hobby.

Oh yeah. Let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to those Amway assholes and their refusal to accept that not everyone has a job.

 

 

Monday, November 10, 2014

Nothing Ever Changes In The Amway Scam


Here’s a reader who tells us nothing much has changed in Amway in the past 20 years. Except the tapes ambots have to buy on the tool scam are now CD’s. The story is the same as many people who’ve got taken in by the Amway scam. A couple looking to make a better life, have extra money, have the wife be a stay at home mother. Dream Night = nightmare. 40 people crammed into a hotel room at an Amway function. No sleep. Love bombing. Having words like quitter and loser ingrained into their heads from the assholes in their Amway upline. Fear of being ostracized keeping them in the Amway cult. Figuring out Amway is a losing business opportunity. Stockpiling Amway products. Savings gone. Credit cards maxed. Fighting all the time. Being financially set back several years trying to recover from the Amway scam. How many times has this story been told? Get involved in Amway and step into hell. 

Every now and then I get an urge to look up the latest info on the Scamway world. So this time I landed on your blog and I'm glad I did.

My wife of twenty five years and I were coaxed onto the soap slickened slopes of Mt Scamway back in the early 90's after we were first married. We were a couple of wide eyed 23 yr olds who wanted simply to help ourselves financially by making that extra few hundred bucks a month and buy products we were already using from ourselves. Sound familiar?

Our sponsor was a guy I went to school with. It all seemed pretty good until we attended our first function, a Dream Night if I recall. Start of a fucking nightmare is what it was. We were newly married and as such didnt have a lot of money. We did have good credit however. So we paid for this with mostly credit, partly cash, all with the blessing of our upline direct. It was quite expensive even with like forty of us crammed in a room in Richmond. And we didnt sleep all damned weekend. And above all I was really uncomfortable with a lot of what was being said but tried to keep an "open mind".

But I digress. After this I began dissecting facts and crunching numbers and realized in the back of my mind that this was a losing proposition. But I wanted to give it a fair shake and I'm not a quitter, and my bride whom I did and do love dearly, was all in. So we continued. For two long years and the birth of our first child. His birth caused us both to take a long look at how we were spending our resources and we finally had the clarity of mind to say fuck it.

The addiction for her was the people. You know the ones who hug you incessantly and tell you they love you? The ones who tell you how great you are, you're a winner, and all that shit? I'm not really a touchy feely guy and wasn't really into that but she was raised in a home where praise and encouragement came at a premium. Just another angle for the programmers to use. For me it was the desire to achieve success for me and my wife and honestly, I wanted her to be proud of me like those gals up on stage were proud of their hardworking hubbies. (Even tho I hear a whole bunch of them were having fun on the side and are now no longer wed).

I have to this day no real idea how much we lost on that whole damned mess. I know it took a huge toll on our married life because of the bills we racked up in pursuit of "The Dream". By the time we escaped and deprogrammed we were flat broke, the cards were maxxed, the savings were gone, and we were constantly at each others throats over everything, but the fights always started about money, or rather the lack of it. And there was enough fucking LOC in our closet to float a battleship. Rather than helping us, the Ama-Scam set us back a good five years financially.

Today I would never fall for it, but as a young and gullible man I was sucked right in. And I actually tried. I went out and met people. You know, "cold contacting" and setting up "QI's" and the whole damn tamale. Went to the meetings, CONventions, and slept 3-4 hours a nite. And never made enough to cover the gas and the fucking food, let alone hotel rooms. Looking back it was like escaping from a booby hatch. After probly a year of no Scamway influence, no tapes in our car tape deck,(no they weren't friggin CD's they werent invented yet) and telling every upline Ambot who called to apply pressure to have an arsenic and LOC cocktail, we were free. We are now approaching our Silver-no longer in Scamway-Thank You Lord Anniversary. Carry on your good work, Anna Banana.
 

 

 

Thursday, November 6, 2014

Amway Won’t Let You Out And Won’t Refund Your Money? Shocker!


A searcher found their way to this blog with “Who do I complain to if Amway won’t let me out and refund my money.”

This gets a person thinking about other places where they shop. Do people ever go around complaining that Walmart, Sears, or Safeway won’t let them out? I mean there’s the door. Leave.

Well every now and then you hear about a customer that got locked inside a store, maybe they were in the restroom around closing time, and the staff left, locked up and the bathroom customer couldn’t get out. Can you imagine what a horrifying experience that would be someone to get locked into an Amway store with all those shitty overpriced Amway products? Holy fuck! But Amway doesn’t have retail stores because that wouldn’t work too good for their pyramid scheme and their member based (Independent Business Owners bullshit) buying club.

No one goes around complaining that a store won’t let them out unless there are some other kind of circumstances going on like a missing kid and the place gets locked down. In the rare instances where someone is physically unable to leave a store its usually only a temporary situation and they’ll eventually get out. I’m talking about normal circumstances where nothing is going on. You walk into a store, buy what you need and leave. So most people don’t go around saying Sears, Safeway, Costco, Walmart won’t let them out. These places aren’t holding them hostage. Can the same thing be said about Amway?

Why does this complaint come up over and over again with Amway? I’ve seen many similar searches that end up on this blog.

Why won’t Amway let you out?

Its like any other store. Just leave. Don’t go back. Don’t spend your money there. That’s how you get out of Amway. You’re not locked in or stuck in a physical location. Amway Ambots blow it out their asses all the time that they’re an Internet business. Unlike real stores they don’t have actual locations that you can walk inside and do your shopping.

Why do people even have to ask this question: why won’t Amway let me out? Its creepy. But then its Amway and everything Amway IS fucking creepy.

It probably has more to do with the fucking assholes in your Amway upline than the company itself. If you tell your Amway upline you’re quitting to begin with they’ll tell you stuff like: you can’t quit now, not when success is right around the corner. You’re about to go really big. I can feel it.

And when that doesn’t work the fucking assholes in your Amway upline will insult and humiliate you. Accuse you of not working hard enough. You’re a quitter. You’re a loser. You’ll be broke for the rest of your life. And all the other bullshit abuse you put up with from the Amway upline. And you’ll be the subject of rants from the Amway cult leaders at the next few meetings.

I still say its like any other store. Just stop going there. Stop buying their shitty overpriced products. That’s how you get out.

And then all the other things that go along with getting out of the Amway cult. Stop going to Scamway meetings. Cancelling your $50/month membership to your cult sect, cancelling Communikate, and quit listening to CD’s where some fucking Amway Diamond is brainwashing you. Stop hanging around fucked up brainwashed Amway assholes who devote their lives to spouting out lies in the form of bullshit Amspeak.

Some people compare quitting Amway to trying to get out of your Comcast contract. Getting out of Comcast is easier! Ha ha!

So who do you complain to if Amway won’t let you out? If you have a news station that features a consumer complaints section, start there. However its pretty fucking embarrassing letting it get out there that you got scammed into Amway so most people don’t want to call attention to themselves and have people say if that fucking loser is so stupid to get involved with Amway they deserve to get scammed out of their money. What about the BBB? Amway ambots love to violate their IBO agreement and brag about how the BBB kisses Amway’s ass they’re so happy to be affiliated with them. Complain to the BBB. Its hard to say if that will work. All a business has to do to keep their good standing with the BBB is pay their annual fee and respond to any complaints within the time limit set by the BBB. The business does not have to respond favorably to a customer’s complaint and fix the problem to the customer’s satisfaction. All they have to do is get a response in to the BBB before the time’s up.

Don’t even waste your time phoning into Amway’s customer service department aka the I-don’t-give-a-shit department.

Amway is like any other company if you refuse to pay their monthly or annual fees. Don’t pay and they’ll drop you.

Getting a refund is another story. Amway ambots will brag about their wonderful refund policy but very few have ever tried to put it in action. If you send back Amway products and get a refund your PV/BV goes down according to the value assigned to that product. Domino effect which means all the fucking assholes in your Amway upline are also going to see those points hit the shitter. And then you’ll have to put up with the verbal abuse from those bastards for doing a refund. But if you’re quitting Amway anyway why do you give a shit if those bastards are taking a nosedive on their PV/BV. You got to jump through hoops with Amway to get a refund so most people don’t bother. They’ll just throw the shitty overpriced product in the garbage and write off their loss.

Some could also say its easier to get a refund from Comcast than it is from Amway. LOL!!!!