What about franchises? Isn’t
that all it is, only online instead of brick & mortar?
You point out that IBOs can be fired, but couldn’t McDonald’s “fire” one of
their franchise owners if they started selling incorrect products? It’s a basic
principle.
The above words of wisdom were left by some ambot on the post about where else
can you get fired from your own business but in Amway. Couldn’t have happened
to a more deserving sack of shit Platinum! Its always nice when ambots stop by
and say something so fucking stupid you just gotta share it in a separate post
so everyone can poke fun at it.
I’m not sure if this guy has been smoking something funny or if he’s just
fucked in the head!
He’s seriously comparing Amway with McDonalds? That’s the big giveaway that
theirs is seriously something wrong with him.
Two completely different businesses. One is in the restaurant business selling
fast food for lower prices than in sit down restaurants. The other is in the
business of signing up commissioned salespeople to sell overpriced shitty
products.
Fucked in the head ambot needs to look a little futher into the McDonald’s
business plan. The restaurants in this chain are not all franchises. Some are
and some are owned by the head office. Franchises are sold to restaurant owners
in locations that McDonalds did a market survey on to ensure they’re still
going to be profitable but not necessarily a location that head office wants
ownership of. Just because a company like McDonalds has a chain of locations or
branches does not mean that they are all franchises.
McDonald’s doesn’t have an online business selling their fast food. Can you
imagine what it would like coming through the mail? Cold burgers and fries and
melted ice cream mess.
There are companies that have many locations or branches that also have an
online business where customers can shop on the Internet instead of going into
the store and have their purchases mailed to them. Wal-Mart and other big box
chains comes to mind.
Amway does not have any franchises that I know of but they have/had a location
or information center at a baseball park, was it Citifield? Not exactly a
franchise but you got to wonder what the fuck are they doing there and how much
its costing Amway to rent that space and who’d want to be the staff working
there subject to ridicule from baseball fans who know Amway is a scam. Amway
has locations and warehouses in places besides their head office in Michigan
but no franchise locations. I mean who’d want one? Most people would want to
buy a franchise of something that is popular and has good sales in other words
sells products that people want to buy at an affordable price. Amway don’t fit
that criteria!
And here’s the thing about any business that is a chain. They do market
research before opening a location. They make sure the customer base will be
there. They don’t open a location too close to another one in their chain to
oversaturate that market.
Even companies that have salesreps that go out to businesses and market their
products or services don’t overlap the salespeople’s territories. They all have
their own area to cover.
What about Amway? Does head office make sure their commissioned salespeople are
not overlapping any areas? Hell no! That’s because Amway knows that their
commissioned salespeople are not making sales to others. Their commissioned
salespeople are Amway’s customers buying Amway products and pretending that
they are buying from their own store. Brainwashed ambots! Amway has
oversaturated the market with commissioned salespeople. There ain’t enough
business for everyone. Could that be due to selling overpriced shitty products?
Really hard to find customers and bullshit them into thinking they are paying
more money for higher quality products when its all a lie. Amway’s products are
generic to substandard compared to other products in the marketplace.
Overpriced shit!
Sticking with what the dumb ass ambot said about franchises, does anyone know
of an online only business that has franchises? That would be fucking dumb?
Kind of like oversaturating the marketplace when only one location is needed.
If its an online only business all sales can be made through the one website
and keep all the profit in one place. No need to spread it out and have
franchise online businesses. Let’s take Amazon probably the most successful
online business out there. Around $638 billion in sales in 2024. Amazon has no
franchises. They have offices and warehouses in different places but those ain’t
franchises.
The dumb ass response the Amway ambot left is very typical of what I heard from
Amway cult leaders. Whenever someone has a different opinion the Amway cult
leader has to launch some distraction tactic and try to blind the opposing view
with their fucked up bullshit.
Comparing Amway with some McDonald’s franchises. You gotta be fucking kidding
me! What the fuck does one have to do with the other except some flimsy Amway
excuse to bullshit and distract someone away from figuring out the truth.
The Amway jerk who left that comment about franchises must be a total asshole when it comes to business practice.
ReplyDeleteA franchise is simply a licensing agreement between a larger company and a private party (or group), granting them permission to sell the company's products, under their name and under their direction, with a financial agreement as to how profits are to be divided.
A guy who sells Pepperidge Farm Bread to local stores has a franchise. Someone who sells Tropicana Orange Juice to stores in his neighborhood has a franchise. McDonald's and Burger King and Taco Bell are all sold via franchises, with maybe just a few special stores run directly by the company.
Comparing a Ponzi scheme racket like Amway to a franchise is like comparing drug smuggling to running a pharmacy.
Anonymous - one of the qualifications to be an Amway Ambot is to be a total asshole LOL! Amway cult leaders prefer having Ambots of lower intelligence who do not understand the way franchises operate. Then they brainwash them on the Amway version of a franchise. And then they let the Amway loser run lose all over the Internet to make an asshole out of himself and Amway. Amway cult leaders come up with all kinds of bullshit Amspeak propaganda comparing ScAmway to legitimate companies in futile attempts to persuade others that Amway is not a pyramid scheme or a Ponzi scheme. Anyone with a smidge of intelligence - so that excludes Amway losers - understands how a franchise operates.
DeleteSo at the top of the pyramid is Amy who recruits Bob who recruits Charlie.
ReplyDeleteSo after many rounds one chain looks like Amy-Bob-Charlie-Dick-Etheldred-Frederick-Griselda-Herbert.
Ingrid decides to buy some soap. She could go to Amazon's website and buy it online securely and have it delivered next day. There are online companies in other countries (e.g. Korea) which have even faster delivery times.
Amway is asking Ingrid to instead buy it from Herbert who buys it from Griselda who buys it from Frederick and so on until Bob buys the actual product from Amy? Is this the model that we think money can be made from? In what world did this model ever make sense? Why is it a better deal for Ingrid to get her soap from Herbert's Amway business than for her to get it from a super market, petrol station, online retailer or indeed anyone else?
To be fair, Ingrid only cares about the quality of the product and how long it takes to get to her. She does not need to know or care who is making money from the deal. If she bought it at a super market she would need to know the salaries of the people stacking the shelves, the people who do the marketing, the cleaners or the CEO. However in a real business everybody employed does something of value to the business. If the super market company could get rid of cleaners or shelf stackers at a reasonable cost they would in an instant. How does Amway do anything similar? How does it work out that Charles is adding or not adding value in the process? Of course Amway does not care about any of this stuff. It does not need to.
Again if Ingrid is the only person buying stuff in this chain, there is no real problem. Each person in the chain is getting some tiny fraction of the margin. If they are happy, who are we to judge? The problem is that each person is buying stuff themselves because they have to and so while Amy makes a lot and possibly Bob and Charles too, by the time you get to Herbert, he is getting a tiny bit of external money from Ingrid's purchase but most of his sales are to himself.
If you think that is a great plan, here is what I am going to the bank with to see if they will lend me some cash. I sold myself $10m of widgets this morning so I have $10m in income. I am rich. Yippee!!!!! Now Mr Bankman, please lend me $20m on the strength of my financials. What? You don't believe me? But it happens in successful IBO operations every day. What's wrong with you Mr Bankman?
Aussie Hillbilly - all of us who aren't brainwashed Amway Ambots get your logic and see what you're saying. But Ambots are not free thinkers. They rely on their Amway cult leaders to tell them what to think and what to say and how to act. But if you were to draw a bunch of circles showing Amy-Bob-Charlie-Dick-Etheldred-Frederick-Griselda-Herbert. And how when Ingrid buys something from Herbert everyone upline also makes a few pennies commission even though Herbert did all the work. Then you could conclude your speech about why Amway's products are so expensive and that's because payment to Amy-Bob-Charlie-Dick-Etheldred-Frederick-Griselda-Herbert has to be factored into the price plus Amway's owners making a huge profit on each sale.
DeleteAmway is not about the products. No MLM is about the products. It is about passing money up the chain, with a little bit of it left for everyone who is a link in the chain.
ReplyDeleteYour only hope of making significant money in Amway is by having a down-line of persons underneath you in the chain, who will send their money upwards to you, and whom you hope will recruit more persons underneath them, so that your monthly income will be even bigger.
The products don't matter at all! You could be dealing in bags of horse manure or broken glass. All that matters is the business structure, and whatever money you can squeeze out of the persons below you in the chain.
Anonymous - you got it! Sell the hope not the soap.
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