Friday, May 3, 2024

The Amway Scam Evolves Over The Years

The last time we posted about Amway Ambots getting paid to shop online scam, one of our readers shared their Amway experience from the days before the Internet existed:

 

In the old days of Amway (the 1970s) you never heard any of this crap about "making money by shopping in your own store" or "getting paid to help others." There wasn't even any emphasis on "self-consumption" of the Amway products, or "becoming a better person."

The only thing that was said was that you had to sell Amway stuff, and recruit others in your down-line to do the same. Period.

The changeover to the new rhetorical bullshit came about years later, in order to answer a pressing question that too many IBOs were asking. The question was this: WHERE'S MY PROMISED PROFIT IN THIS AMWAY PLAN?

This was an embarrassing question, and the AMOs had to think up of something that would redirect and deflect the attention of dissatisfied IBOs. So the con-men came up with a whole new approach. They told IBOs that a crappy little discount was the same thing as making a profit, and that recruiting a down-line was really a form of altruistic social work because it gave others hope and an opportunity. They also said that self-consumption of Amway products was merely a way to replace what you were already buying elsewhere, and that the inflated prices of these Amway products were because of their high quality and concentration.

Finally, they came up with the most stupid and impudent lie of all -- namely, that being in Amway "made you a better person," and therefore it didn't really matter that you were losing your shirt.

All this baloney developed in the late 1970s and the 1980s, as the various AMOs began to take over Amway totally, and change its entire emphasis towards recruitment and rah-rah hype. This is when Amway started to become truly cultic in its mentality and practice.

Thursday, May 2, 2024

Get Paid To Shop Online Is Probably Amway Scam

When we attended Amway functions the Diamond leading the cult meeting would often brag about how he tells people he gets paid to shop online. The story usually goes he’s standing in line somewhere or at the doctor’s office – you know places where you’re most likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger – NOT! – and they’ll ask what he does for a living and he says I get paid to shop online.

Said like that it might draw a question from the victim like how do you do that – are you a secret shopper - and the next thing you’ll know they’re duped into coming to the next Scamway meeting.

Do a Google search that says get paid to shop online and see if what comes up sounds like a scummy Amway bait & switch scam. Here’s what I got on Craigslist but whether or not this particular ad is still up is hard to say. Most get flagged off as MLM scams.

Earn MASSIVE INCOME$$$ Helping Others Get Paid to Shop Online!!!

- IF YOUR LOOKING FOR A JOB, THIS IS NOT IT! THIS IS A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY FOR YOURSELF TO HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF YOUR OWN TIME AND INCOME EARNING!

-LOOKING FOR: -OPEN/BUSINESS MINDED INDIVIDUALS
-THOSE WHO WANT MORE IN LIFE
-SERIOUS ABOUT BUILDING A LARGE INCOME ON THE SIDE
-WANTING A HOME BASED BUSINESS

-GET PAID $$$ TO HELP OTHERS DO WHAT THEY DO ALL THE TIME WITH OR WITHOUT YOU!



-EARN UP TO "$1,500-$25,000" (PER WEEK)-- !

-NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY-- HELP IS PROVIDED! HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN SOCIAL MEDIA, MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATIONS, SEO YOUR DEFINITELY SUITABLE TO EXCEED QUICKER!!!

IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE(WE HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON). I DARE YOU TO TAKE YOUR FIRST STEP ON REACHING SUCCESS WHICH IS GETTING KNOWLEDGE OR ASKING QUESTIONS! PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ANSWERS RIGHT AWAY!




OK lets point out the obvious. The fucker who placed this ad can’t figure out how to turn off the caps lock button on their keyboard! LOL!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! That’s an Amway scammer for you. Has to ask permission from the assholes in his upline first. LOL! Fucking Amway loser.

This ad was accompanied by a whole bunch of photos, mostly beach shots and Las Vegas. A sign that said “what would you do with $25,000” and a picture of a bunch of things one could conceivably buy online like camera, watches, perfume iPad, etc.

So let’s analyze this MLM scam ad starting with the headline that just screams “I’M A SCAM!” What do you hear at every Amway meeting, all about the massive incomes you can earn. And usually due to helping others, teaching them what you do and they do the same. You know the Amway plan to have gazillions of dollars in residual income rolling in every month. Eat one Amway food bar and drink one Amway drink everyday and teach 6 others to do what you do and they teach 6 others and they teach 6 others…….

Part of the ad talks about the old “business opportunity”. Amway ambots do that all the time but avoid saying the dreaded A word. Instead ScAmway is referred to as “the business”.

Looking for open minded people who want more in life, want a home based business, want to make gazillions of dollars as a side income. Yup more bullshit Amspeak that can be heard at every Scamway cult meeting.

Get paid to help others is more bullshit Amspeak. They fuck with Amway ambots and brainwash them to believe they’re part of the Amway cult to “help others” like some bullshit noble cause. You want to help others get a job as a nurse or a cop or firefighter for fuck’s sake and stay away from Amway scammers!

Get paid to do what they do all the time (with or without you). Could that be shopping? That’s more ScAmway Amspeak. You’re going shopping anyway, this way you get paid for shopping. Followed usually by “stuff that you buy for everyday use anyway”. I can tell you that I never used vitamins, bottled water, and energy drinks every day before Amway. Or after Amway. Only during. So how does this apply to me? It doesn’t. A better slogan is join Amway and get forced to buy overpriced shitty products that you never had any use for in the first place!!!!

Earn anywhere from $1500 to $25,000/week. Yup heard just about every number under the sun tossed out at Scamway meetings. And you can earn all this with “no experience necessary”. LOL! People who are really earning that kind of money received training and are well experienced at what they do, like say heart surgeons and airline pilots. Would you want to get on a plane with a pilot who has no experience flying a plane and gets paid $10/month, the same amount an Amway ambot makes if they’re CORE? And he makes more than that airlines mechanics! There’s a reason why these guys make the big bucks. Experience! Extensive training! If you’re told you can make thousands of dollars a week no experience necessary that just screams SCAM all over it.

Then the old bullshit about how this seems too good to be true then a dare to phone to get more info. Some bullshitter named Lew put this ad up and his phone number but I won’t post it here.

Some words of wisdom from one of our readers: Nobody “makes money by shopping.” When you shop, you pay out. Getting a small discount for your purchase is not “making money.”

It's unbelievable that Amway can spread an impudent lie like that, but it's profoundly more unbelievable that so many idiots accept it as the gospel truth.


To wrap it up, it is highly unlikely there will be a legitimate job waiting to any ad about how to make money shopping online. Its another Amway scam, as taught at Amway cult meetings.

 

 

Wednesday, May 1, 2024

Bogus Amway Sales Jobs

I’ve seen comments from people that they’ve applied for sales jobs listed on places like Craigslist only to find they’ve been sucked in by an Amway IBO scammer posting a fake job ad.

On Craigslist their terms of use specifically state that MLM reps can not be posting there but they do anyway and Amway IBO’s are not the only guilty party but they are the majority of the offenders. Usually these ads get flagged off if they blatantly mention the MLM or one of the products which might alert some job seekers who it is.

It must really suck if you’re looking for a legitimate sales job and respond to an ad and get called for an “interview” at a local coffee shop only to be nailed with an Amway board plan presentation.

Finding a job is tough enough without these fucking MLM scammers trying to snipe you into their pyramid scheme.

Ambot and I noticed a sign posted on a telephone pole. I don’t recall the exact wording but it said something to the effect of be your own boss and run a health, sports, and beauty business. Even though it was crudely painted it included a toll free number (Communikate?) to give it an air of authenticity. We’re pretty sure it was Scamway.

Likewise people who post resumes on various job sites end up getting trolled by MLM participants who are trying to “grow their business”. In fact you don’t even need a resume up you an just post an ad for something to sell on Craigslist and some demented ambot might phone to pretend they’re interested in buying and then spring an Amway presentation on you.

These ambots have to keep coming up with new ideas on how to trick prospects.

The thing with becoming an Amway Independent Business Owner is its just a fancy term for a commissioned salesperson. Amway is just a sales job no matter how much the upline tries to bullshit you that its not selling. I guess they were kind of right. Its more self consuming Amway products instead of selling them. But to succeed in Amway you do have to be good at sales, either selling the board plan and signing up IBO’s into your downline or selling overpriced substandard products and have the art of selling down to convince buyers this shit is really high quality.

Its like a vicious circle sales job cycle. Amway sells products to gullible salespeople and tells them to recruit other salespeople to sell the Amway products. Once the ambot has exhausted all friends and family and random people in the mall they turn to walking the neighborhood and leaving ads in people mailboxes, posting signs on telephone poles, or posting bogus sales job ads on Craigslist. Once they get a live prospect the Ambot assholes get the recruit in front of their cult leaders to close the sale. That’s because - according to the upline - people on the lower levels of the Amway pyramid are too stupid to close a sale when it comes to bringing in new cult members.

Bogus business. Bogus sales jobs ads. Yup it all seems to go hand in hand with ScAmway.