When It Comes To Amway Is The Message Loud And Clear?

A few years ago Ambot and I were eating at a restaurant and three motorcyclists pulled into the parking lot. One of the bikers had a spike instead of a back seat behind him. Or maybe it was 3 spikes, I don’t really remember. Doesn’t matter either way. That message was loud and clear: “No passengers!”

How about the messages we got from our upline? Were they loud and clear?

Every Amway meeting we attended whether it was at someone’s house or an auditorium our sponsor and upline would be hanging around with cell phones plastered to their ears or sending text messages. They’d glance at us and turn their backs. The message is loud and clear: “The other end of my phone is more important than you!”

How loud and clear was it when our arrogant prick sponsor said that even if you don’t make money at Amway you will be a better person from the associations you make from the Amway business and be a better person. And that fucker wasn't the only one who said shit like that.

I mean what the fuck? Why would I want to become a business owner to not make money? Why do I want to become a better person from associating with people in the Amway business? I can become a better person by volunteering at the hospital. And maybe I’m about as nice a person right now as I’ll ever be. I don’t need Amway to show me any more sickening nicey nice.

Is this line our sponsor used loud and clear? “We’ve got something that’s recession proof, are you interested, we can go for coffee.”

No that ain’t loud and clear. Its pretty vague. And I don’t like coffee so fuck off.

How this for another Amway line? “I can’t promise you nothing but would the potential of an extra 70 grand a year interest you?”

Well yeah most people would be interested in an extra 70 grand a year. But the most honest thing you said was not promising nothing. That part comes through loud and clear to me. Nothing in Amway is still nothing except for a whole lot of debt.

How about when our sponsor insulted a prospect of Ambot’s because he’s 45 years old but due to his age he’s a hard sell due to his previous knowledge of Amway.

That’s loud and clear to me too. If the prospect (who is younger than Ambot) is “too old” at 45 THEN SO IS AMBOT!!!!

How come the arrogant prick sponsor isn't getting my message loud and clear? I don't like you and I don't want nothing to do with you motherfucker!!! How have I failed at communicating that to the arrogant prick all these years??? Or is he just that fucking dense? Or is he nothing more than a fucking troublemaker accelerated by Amway.

One thing that is loud and clear to me is the number of bloggers and commenters who take to the Internet getting their story out there. Hopefully Amway recruits are doing some research before they plunk down their $150 registration/starter kit fee (edit to add I hear it costs around $170 now maybe more). It seems that more people do their research after they’ve been involved in Amway for awhile and aren’t making any money to see if there is actually any hope at this business. And then they see it. Story and story about people who have lost money, lost their homes, got into huge debt, divorces all thanks to their involvement in Amway.

The message is loud and clear. Stay away from Amway. It will poison your life.

 

Don’t Take Tax Advice From Amway Losers

Seeing as how Amway Ambots are doing searches for Amway tax refunds it’s a good time to talk about Amway tax evaders.

Nobody likes paying taxes, but something brainwashed Amway Ambots fail to understand is that paying taxes is a sign that you’re successful and profitable in your career. To sum it up simply, make two columns: income and expenses. Total them up. If the income total is higher than the expense total then yay business is going great. But oh shit you got to pay taxes on that income. But that’s a sign of success being profitable in your business. Then the reverse is that the column with the expenses total is higher than the income. Oops business isn’t going so good and for some businesses it takes awhile for the income to grow or maybe its been a bad business year. When you have more expenses that you can write off against your income then you’ll get a refund at tax time. Damn! Business is the shits.

Or if you’re a dumb fuck Amway Ambot you brag you’re getting a tax refund which is pretty much what is taught at Amway meetings that’s the secret to making money in Amway. You write off EVERY Amway expense yup all this shitty food bars and vitamins and the cat piss energy drinks and Communikate and books and tickets to functions and hotels against the income from your real job and you’ll get a refund. So that’s why you hear Amway Ambots lying about how business is going great and at the same time bragging about how they got a tax refund. Bunch of lying scamming fucking Amway assholes.

Uncle Sam disagrees that the only way for an Amway Ambot to make money at their scam is through a tax refund. AUDIT!!!! I mean the IRS has a whole handbook dedicated to Amway IBO’s for their staff to consult because the IRS has determined Amway is an expensive social club and the cult followers have no chance of making money selling soap and snake oil. And followers of the Great Amway God have a bad reputation with the IRS as tax cheats. Does the IRS have a whole handbook dedicated to McDonald’s employees or Chipotle staff? Unlikely because they’re probably not lying scamming tax cheats like Amway Ambots. What does that tell you. There are cases published online about how Ambots are getting audited through scamming on their taxes. And when you’re considering what expenses you can write off, Uncle Sam doesn’t count groceries and household supplies unless of course that’s the nature of your business like you run a restaurant or take in laundry for a living. And even those types of business are looking for ways to keep their costs down and wouldn’t buy overpriced shitty Amway products. So if you can stick it in your mouth and swallow it, don’t expense it on your taxes or you’ll be up shit creek.

I also want to say another scenario for legitimate business owners - not Amway scammers with their pretend business - is that you can get a good accountant and a good financial consultant and with the right investments and write offs you can bring your taxable income down as much as possible and pay less taxes. That’s mostly what real business owners worry about it. How they can pay less taxes.

The assholes in our Amway upline told us that everything to do with “the business” is tax deductible.

Our upline even said our dog food is tax deductible because our dog guards the house where we have Amway meetings.

Now does everyone remember how you can tell when an Amway Ambot is lying? …. Their mouth is moving!

We were told that all Amway products we buy are tax deductible. I seriously doubted that and so did our accountant whose services we use for our legitimate business. The upline made it sound like anything and everything about Amway products and tools is tax deductible and we’ll get our money back in the form of tax refunds and therefore its all free.

For some people this makes it easier to keep shelling out money if they’re given the hope that it will all be returned at the end of the year in the way of a tax refund. To hear upline tell it, this business, if nothing else, is a great tax shelter.

Uncle Sam might disagree.

This is a good example of why its not a good idea to take everything the assholes in the Amway upline says as gospel truth especially in areas that aren’t of their expertise. A person working a J.O.B. as an unskilled laborer or slinging burgers while walking the Amway path to financial freedom (LOL!) is probably not the best expert on what is and what is not a legitimate tax deduction especially if they've never hired the services of a professional accountant. You know an accountant who went to a real business school. Not some jackshit fucking Amway asshole who’s a pretend accountant because he got a degree at Amway University and that qualifies him to give pretend financial advice to dumb asses running pretend Amway businesses.

Fortunately Ambot took the counsel of our knowledgeable, experienced accountant instead of his upline when it came to acceptable tax deductions.

As our accountant tells it to us - save all receipts except for the grocery bills and they can write them off. That would disqualify anything edible/consumable that Amway sells as a tax write off.

That was contradictory advice from the assholes in our Amway upline. They told us to buy Amway drinks and food bars and vitamins because they have high PV/BV.

The same items our accountant tells us that we can not claim on our tax return because they fall under the grocery category.

Use your own judgement on this one. Fortunately Ambot did. Our upline were a bunch of scammers and liars as they shoved the Amway business opportunity down everyone's throats. I disregarded everything they said anyway and am sure glad I didn't listen to them try to scam us about legitimate tax deductions.

So the moral of the story is don’t take tax advice from a lying scamming fucking Amway asshole.

 

 

No Such Thing As Business Advice In Amway

When it came to Amway our upline gave us no decent legitimate business advice. We went to all these “business meetings” and nothing useful about being a real business owner was ever divulged. Just because someone pays $150 to register as an Amway IBO, puts on a business suit, carries a cell phone, and shows up for meetings does not make them a “business owner”. A real business owner makes their own decisions about when and where they work, their pricing, and business policies and so much more. A bunch of fakers with pretend Amway businesses go to meetings when their upline says they have to go, have no control over the product prices and have no control if Amway decides to terminate them as an IBO.

Yeah! Freedom! Business Owner!

Try commissioned salesperson. That’s all Amway IBO’s are. Remember the whole “cut out the middleman” speeches you hear at Amway meetings and on tapes/CDs? Think about it. Who is really the middleman? The IBO.

How many commissioned salespeople out there would stay with the same company if they were only earning $10 a month? They’d either quit and find something more saleable to market or the employer would fire them.

Going to business meetings where the speaker (Platinum) goes off on rants that have nothing to do with Amway or any other business, talks about their relationship with God (I’ve never attended a business meeting with a legitimate company where religion comes up), and shows a presentation telling people to eat one meal bar and drink one Amway drink daily to become financially free just doesn’t cut it.

Business advice consists of being CORE and duplicating your upline. Takes up less than 1% of the “business meeting”. Well what do you expect after spending 2 hours ranting about the no show IBO’s and losers who have J.O.B.s and religion. Doesn’t leave too much time to actually talk about Amway.

You know what else is less than 1%? The amount of IBO’s who break even or make some income at Amway. Wow! What a great business opportunity where over 99% of IBO’s don’t make money and/or lose money!

Seeing as how being an Amway IBO is just a pretend business lets think big and pretend an IBO is a top notch Amway salesperson and has a good sized downline or customer base and is earning around $1000/month. Its not enough to live on if you have a mortgage and want to eat and pay your other bills but its a decent side income. Most IBO’s think that’s a nice starting point in their Amway business and Ambot was one of them who thought for sure he’d be making $1000/month after 3 or 4 months in “the business”. The reality for most IBO’s is that’s an unattainable level because the odds are stacked against them in a system designed for failure. But seeing as how this is a pretend business lets just pretend that’s the monthly tally.

In the Amway meetings I attended the Platinum or Diamond speaker would entice the newcomers in the audience by asking what they could do with an extra $800 or $1000 a month. They could pay down debt and put it to their mortgage or save it for a down payment on a house. What about that vacation you want to take? You’ll have saved enough in a few months to take it. The speakers, aka Amway cult leaders, make it sound how easy it would be to make that much money. They say you start with yourself and eat a food bar and drink an Amway beverage daily. Then you find 2 people who can do what you do. And over the next 4 months you add an extra person each month and after 6 months you’ll be earning $1000/month.

Eat and drink your way to financial freedom!

You know there was a reason why my father never invested in a candy shop or donut shop and that was because we’d eat all the profits!

The advice given by phoney businessmen is that’s the way to do things - eat those profits!

I come to the conclusion that the main reason our sack of shit Platinum did not give IBO’s concrete advice on what to do with our Amway earnings was because he knew over 99% of us would never make money with Amway and within 2 years he’d be talking to a whole new group of faces therefore he doesn’t need to upgrade his speeches to keep up with the times. Just keep recycling the same old bullshit for people who haven’t heard it before.

Yeah! We’re all gonna be rich! Despite the lack of real business advice.

No business advice = a business that likely won’t succeed.

How To Listen To Amway Tapes

OK. Who would do a search titled “how to listen to Amway tapes”?

Umm. You put the tape into a cassette player, push the play button, and listen to it?

Years ago I worked for a company that was located in a 5 story building. A couple of other companies had offices in the building. I was down on the main floor bringing something to the receptionist and probably chatting for a few minutes. A couple walked across the lobby and got into the elevator. The man - in his 20’s - held the door open, poked his head out, and called over:

“Which button do I press for the third floor?”

“Three?” The receptionist suggests in the tone she uses when dealing with idiots.

The elevator door closes and we break down laughing.

OK well maybe you had to be there....

Perhaps this poor lost IBO has already asked his upline that question and didn’t get a satisfactory answer so he now takes to the Internet in his quest to find that information and ends up at my post about Amway CD’s and tapes.

“How to listen to Amway tapes?”

Hmm, maybe you should be drunk first? Turn the volume way down so you don't piss off anyone else within earshot. Do whatever it takes not to get brainwashed by that shit. A better plan would be to burn them.

I wonder if IBOFB is reading this post. He’ll be shitting his pants demanding who has got their hands on Amway tapes because he claims they went out with the last century.