You Ambots Better Bring Prospects to Amway Cult Meetings!

At every Amway meeting the sack of shit Platinum cult leader would ride all the IBO’s asses about being failures because we didn’t bring new prospects to the meetings. Well excuse us for not being able to find people open-minded to being ripped off!

Ambot spent hours each week trying to convince friends, family, and people he’d just met to come to an Amway cult meeting. Infrequently after a few hours of being hounded, someone would break down and agree to see the plan, but then they wouldn’t show up and spend weeks or months avoiding calls from Ambot.

I hadn’t been to an Amway meeting in months but when an acquaintance of Ambot’s failed to show up at our house and go with him to a meeting and wouldn’t answer his phone when Ambot called. Ambot begged me to accompany him so I gave in and for the first time in about 5 or 6 months I went to the Amway cult meeting.

I might add that this one of the last meetings Ambot attended. Yay!!!!

The infamous prayerfest for me to meet another man hadn’t happened yet.

Anyway, a meeting room had been booked at a local hotel and the upline sack of shit Amway Emerald was the speaker. We came in and found chairs. We watched the Platinum sack of shit circulate the room greeting people. He avoided saying hi to us even though he walked right past us a number of times seeing as how we’d chosen aisle seats. Snubbing us! Like I give a shit that someone I don’t like won’t talk to us. Oddly enough Ambot began to chuckle and I asked him what was so funny.

“He’s refusing to talk to us because I didn’t bring anyone to the meeting.”

That was the Amway cult leader’s way of punishing the downline. Refusal to acknowledge them. Ostracization. Punishment because we can’t bring people to ScAmway meetings who want to get ripped off.

I was cool with that. We don’t often get that lucky that the pompous sack of shit Amway fucktard doesn’t want to talk to us.

 

 

 

It’s Not AMWAY It’s World Wide Dream Builders!

A reader shares his story of trying to be a supportive boyfriend to his Ambot girlfriend:

Wow, I’ve been recruited by AMBOTS all my life when I was in my early teens and then early 20’s I checked it out., mostly at bookstores and coffee shops where they prey on people while they read all the educational Self help books their upline tells them to go out and buy. 

From my experience, the only people making money are the people who author the books they buy....and AMWAY corporate charging hundreds of dollars for their conferences and also $60 plus bucks a pop everytime they have a local 1 day thing. 

I am sooo in love with my Girl but she grew up not believing in herself (perfect target for amway) she’s now in her late 30’s and all of a sudden she started asking me questions about how id feel about certain companies...she was fishing. surely her soon to be upline told her to do this. 

But wait, there is more...it lead to me suspecting she was talking about Amway and I told her my true opinion...the one i list above. 

Well low and behold all was fine when she said but its not AMWAY its World Wide Dream Builders! 

I was suspect and when she started to go out late and “Coach” people all over town...then came the books and the “product” she said they “help” people and dont focus on selling a product....then all of a sudden came the little white bottles of everything from shampoo to face wash...then the little bottles of water etc (look way down in the corner of all packaging and what do you know....AMWAY logo). 

Next thing you know, they are telling her that she needs to be with a partner that supports her which i do...but theres more...the partner must support her in this “business” or she wont be successful. 

Here we go. 

Anyway I support her best I can without ever mentioning her “project” and I really really pray she is successful in this because I cant stand to see her hurt. But what I fear most is that she will separate from me, later fail and be without both me and her “WWDB” dream. But by them...it will be too late for both. 

Finally they go so far to seperate themselves from the rest of the world as to hold religious ceremonies or “felowship” at all of their meetings and conferences...I’ve got nothing against a religion I go to church myself....but not in my office building and it isn’t mandatory. 

All I can say is that being with someone that is in this company is like being with someone addicted to crack...i’ve actually know someone addicted to crack but not dated and yes....its really like that. If your relationship is new and the person gets involved with WWDB either get the out quick or you get out of the relationship quick you will be hurt. Its too late for me, I love her...you all SAVE YOURSELVES!

 UPDATE: 

On a later post the supportive boyfriend left a comment their relationship was over. She ended it because she didn’t see a future with someone not in “the business”. You can bet the fucking assholes in her Amway upline “counselled” her to do that because nothing brings those Amway WWDB bastards more happiness than destroying other people’s lives and relationships. But at least this fellow doesn’t have to put up with any more Amway bullshit.

 

 

Amway Cheerleader Squad

Anyone who has been to an Amway cult meeting and isn’t a brainwashed Ambot has observed the freaks in the room acting as cheerleader to the beloved Amway cult leader they’ve showed up to worship. Chants of “Freedom flush that stinking job.” or “Yeah” or “Right on” are screamed out by the Amway devil worshippers listening to their leader spout off Amway’s twisted religious beliefs. Yup the Amway Ambot cheerleader squad shows up to chant at every Amway cult meeting.

One of our readers came up with their own Amway cheer:

Here’s a cheerleader sequence that could be used to help de-program Ambots:

Amway klutz... Amway klutz...
If you believe those Amway lies you’re really nuts.

Amway chump... Amway chump...
Ya gotta be as stupid as a sawed-off stump.

Amway twit... Amway twit...
How long ya gonna keep on pushin’ Amway shit?

Amway dope... Amway dope...
When’s it gonna hit ya that there ain’t no hope?

Amway schmuck... Amway schmuck...
When ya gonna understand you’re outta luck?

Amway jerk... Amway jerk...
When ya gonna get it that the Plan don’t work?

Amway nerd... Amway nerd...
When’s it gonna sink in that the Plan’s absurd?

Amway prick... Amway prick...
How long ya gonna keep on suckin’ up-line dick?

Amway freak... Amway freak...
You gotta get permission just to take a leak?

Amway sap... Amway sap...
When ya gonna realize that the Plan is crap?

Amway slob... Amway slob...
When ya gonna give it up and get a job?

Amway goon... Amway goon...
Dump that stupid Amway crap, and do it soon.

Amway creep... Amway creep...
You wanna quit the racket but you’re in too deep?

Amway ass... Amway ass...
You’re goin’ to a function but you got no gas?

Amway boob... Amway boob...
You’re nothin’ but a stupid little small-town rube.

Amway dolt... Amway dolt...
You better tell your up-line that you’re gonna bolt.

 

Whose Fault Is It?

Isn’t “whose fault is it” a good title? Seeing as how Amway Ambots are the biggest finger pointers around. And those fingers should be pointing right back at themselves!

Here’s a visitor comment left by Cali on Amthrax’s site - Commentof the Week Witty describes Ohio Leadership Convention  


I can relate to this only I left not knowing I had actually been duped. I was so naive I really thought it was my fault I didn’t make any money. I am glad I came upon this site. knowing the extent of the truth years ago could have helped me out greatly, although it would have hurt worse because at the time I felt “close” to people. I thought they actually cared. This is the real scam for me. Reading these posts have helped me see how those guilty feelings of not being good enough for the team has carried over into other parts of my life. Guilt about not having the same values or lifestyle dreams for example, or automatically thinking I don’t have what it takes to be a “leader” at any job I have had since. I thought I have moved on but I see not as well as I would have liked to be believe. What a process this has been. Thanks for sharing everyone.

This could have been written by my husband. Maybe it was! No. I think this was written by someone formerly involved in Monavie, you know the MLM scam that the assholes in our Amway upline defected over to! LOL! Fucking losers! But it was none of those fucking losers because the link on that post is a year or so before the assholes in our Amway upline defected to Monavie.

My Ambot was all about pleasing his upline. Why he would put pleasing them over and above pleasing me I’ll never understand. To get my revenge against those upline fuckers I write this blog and curse them out. I mention no names so the reality is I am cursing out all IBO upline out there. And those Amway assholes ain’t happy about it!

How did Ambot please his upline? Mostly by spending money buying Amway products and investing in the Amway tool scam. The more money he spent the more his upline liked him.

I didn’t spend any money though the upline failed to recognize that the money Ambot spent was really our money. Our upline did not like me because I tried to stop Ambot from buying overpriced substandard Amway products and spending money on functions. So because of any influence I had over our funds and stopping their flow to the upline that is why those fuckers didn’t like me. I can’t tell you how much that breaks my heart! A bunch of phony ass, nasty, greedy IBO bastards don’t like me. Boo hoo!

Ambot thought it was his fault he wasn’t making money in Amway even though he was doing everything his upline told him to. Like we need any further proof that CORE doesn’t work! Well he didn’t do everything upline told him to do. He didn’t leave me no matter how hard his upline bitched at him that I was the reason he wasn’t successful in Amway and he would never make money in Amway because I was a negative unsupportive unchristian dream stealer. Nice label to give someone who is trying to prevent the family from going bankrupt and losing their house because of the Amway scam. Keep the money in our bank account instead of lining the upline’s bank account. And those fucking assholes wonder why I don’t like them because everyone else loves them. Sorry I have no unnatural worship and devotion for any bastards who are dumb enough to be in the Amway cult longer than I have.

It took Ambot awhile to figure out he was being duped. He started asking his upline, namely the sack of shit Platinum, about Amway’s compensation plan. He was brushed off with a curt “Never question upline.” He began having doubts that the Amway business was an honest way to make money. He was also troubled by the upline’s hate on toward me. He stopped going to meetings unless they really bitched at him. He stopped buying hundreds of dollars of Amway products each month. I saw my opportunity. I told him about Merchants of Deception and asked him to read it. He read the book and realized he’d been duped. Eric Scheibeler answered all his questions he had about the compensation that his upline had refused to disclose. I showed him the NBC Dateline expose on Amway that’s available for viewing on Youtube. Ambot was finally seeing the light! Amway = scam.

Ambot knew he’d been duped but he still liked the people in his upline and wanted to stay friends with them. I guess after blabbing to the upline about his dreams and counselling with them so they got to know private information about our lives he felt these people who knew his most secret innermost thoughts were his true best friends. He honestly felt close to them and loved spending time with them. And he thought they cared about him. Boy was he wrong!

I did not have this same sick fascination toward the fucking Amway upline as I’m sure most of the regular readers here have long since figured out!

The problem was once Ambot stopped spending money on Amway products and tools and stopped going to meetings the upline he felt close to dropped him like a hot coal. That’s the reality of hanging out with greedy Amway friends. They will be your best friend only when you’re handing over your money. Phony Amway relationships. No matter how much you like them or how close you feel to these fakers they want NOTHING to do with you if you don’t hand over your money to them.

Gee I think I learned from my parents when I was about 5 years old that if friends only like you for your money then they are not real friends at all.

Yup, that age old advice is definitely true when it comes to Amway friends.

There’s more emotional damage. Amway IBO’s are trained to tell everyone not involved in Amway that they are losers. They are trained to tell everyone in their downline if they don’t make money at Amway - the easiest job in the world - that they’re a loser. Ambot genuinely felt like a loser after he left Amway. He was a loser at not making money no matter how hard he tried and the 100 plus hours he invested in Amway each month. Not to mention spending an average of $700/month on the Amway scheme.

Its funny how people look at things. I’m opposite of Ambot. I look at Amway IBO’s as the real losers, not the rest of the population.

I definitely think there was guilt on Ambot’s side after leaving Amway. Guilt at not making his new best friends happy by handing over his money for Amway products and tools. Guilt that he wasn’t good enough to be their friend any more. Sadness that they didn’t care about him anymore.

News flash! They never cared about Ambot. They only cared about getting his money!

The emotional carnage that Amway and their cult leaders leave in their wake is disgusting. I know karma will bite those bastards on the ass one day. Already has in some cases!

So whose fault is it? Those rotten lying upline bastards fucked with the wrong person and became stars of this blog. They’ve got no one to blame but themselves that a blog called Married To An Ambot was born and continues onwards and upwards even though those fuckers are Monavie lifers now. (Edited to add this post was originally posted before Monavie closed down) Those fucking Amway assholes never see nothing as their fault. They are blameless. They are the chosen few who are better than everyone else because of Amway.

Pompous arrogant bastards.

 

The Amway Shit List

We’ve all heard of Santa’s naughty and nice list.

I prefer to keep a shit list. Every Amway Ambot out there is on my shit list.

Once an ambot has had enough of being love bombed to death by Amway cult members and losing money in the Amway pyramid scheme and quits Scamway, they now find themselves on the Amway ambot shit list.

The Amway cult is a fucked up religion that worships money. They lure in prospects with promises of riches and hype them up to believe that all their dreams of material possessions will come true thanks to Amway and that in 2 to 5 years they will be rolling in dough with gazillions of dollars in residual income every month and they’ll never have to work again.

The Amway cult offers instant friendship. And extremely affectionate instant friends. Demon friends! Over the top ambots who hang on to your every word with dumb grins on their faces as if you are the most fascinating person they’ve ever met, hand out overly zealous compliments, and want to hug hug hug! And squeal and scream whenever they see you like you’re a long lost friend they haven’t seen in 20 years instead of some ambot they ran into last night at an Amway cult meeting.

Eventually most ambots wise up and quit the scam. Had enough of the fucking Amway pyramid scheme!

Quitting means stop buying overpriced Amway products = no PV for the ambot or any of the assholes in their Amway upline. Oooohhhh!!!!!!! That really pisses off those upline Amway assholes! Angers them to no extent. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing over money to them. They only like you for your money and how much money they can make off you. There’s gotta be some reason behind why they put on that phony ass “I love you” routine.

The ambot stops attending Scamway meetings. That means less money under the mattress of some asshole in the Amway upline. Whoever it is - Diamond or Emerald - who is not making as much money as he’d like at the last cult meeting will ride the ass of the cult leaders in his downline. “Where’s my money!!!! Sign up more ambots!!! I need a fucking Mercedes!!!!”

Nope the ambot who quit won’t budge and won’t hand over more cash. They realized they’re not making money in Amway. Its nearly impossible to find customers to buy overpriced shitty Amway products. They can’t find prospects to come to Amway meetings much less sign up to be an Amway IBO. They cut their losses and stop.

Maybe they actually liked some of the assholes in their Amway upline and want to remain friends with them. Nope won’t happen. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing money over to them. You are OUT!!!!

At the next Amway cult meeting the sack of shit Platinum gets the word out to the other cult members to ostracize the ambot who left the flock. They lost their dream. Their dream wasn’t big enough. They didn’t try hard enough. They had an unsupportive wife. They listened to too many dreamstealers. They became negative. Usually a one hour rant in the next Amway cult meeting. Maybe the next few cult meetings. The sack of shit Platinum needs some material to entertain the cult followers for 3 or 4 hours.

About 6 months or so after Ambot finally quit the Amway cult we ran into an ambot at the gas station. Ambot went over and said hi to him while I filled the tank. The ambot smiled at him in that stupid way Amway losers smile and said he wasn’t allowed to talk to us.

Gee who would have handed down that command?

The sack of shit Platinum!

Yup. We quit Amway and ended up on the ambot shit list!

I can’t tell you how devastating that is to me! Ha ha ha!

Like I really care that a bunch of fucking assholes from Amway don’t want to associate with us!

So that’s how you end up on the ambot shit list. You quit Amway!

 

 

“I Wanna Be An Amway Ambot” Said No Sane Person Ever

Thanks to one of our readers for sharing their story. A look at the arrogance of these fucking Amway losers who think others want to be just like them – lying, scamming, arrogant pricks who peddle snake oil.

 

Have you ever thought you were being scammed? Here’s my Amway story.

First off I did not fall for the my life sucks and we can give you financial freedom bullshit they portray. But I was approached by some friends we had made in a new town my wife and daughter and I had moved to. They wanted to show us an opportunity that they couldn’t share with us right away as we hadn’t been vetted yet. This is your first clue this is a bad idea. But what the hell we went along with it, we met a couple times for coffee where they just discussed their life and faith (this is the key I think), how they could help us become them, and achieve what they and their “mentors” have achieved. First off I never said I wanted to be them, so I thought hell that’s pretty self involved to think I want to be you.

After they describe what seemed like a legitimate business we decided to attend a meeting, this is where the wheels fell off. The “inspirational” talk was from their up-line about how they had achieved financial freedom and could be full-time parents instead of selling themselves for money in a real job like all the losers. These people listening in this meeting basically kissed the ground they walked on, its at this point I realized its more of a cult, and brainwashing than a business. The meeting had a believe us cause we are the only option to get what you want, with everyone in unison saying yes to the “facts” they presented. Which are complete and utter bullshit. Everyone can achieve this, no one loses if you apply yourself to the “program”. This I believe is why they target people of faith, they are more apt to believe what they don’t see. Don’t take that as a negative if you are a person of faith, I just think its their “in”. I am not a person of faith, I need to hold evidence in my hand to believe.

Anyway after the meeting they provided my wife and I an information package, material littered with Amway. I was already out, and after three or four texts from my would be mentor about the package and setting up a time to discuss I politely told him we were not interested. He seems to have accepted that but time will tell if he pushes anymore. I don’t doubt a person could potentially make money with Amway however the method of making money is recruiting and not selling the products, any person who actually looks at that realizes this. So if constantly searching for recruits, alienating your friends and family, never having a free minutes to do the “sins” in life you enjoy, tv, sports, playing with your kids (I use the word sin as they try to make you think having fun and being happy is wrong and all spare time should be Amway time) then power too you. I however will enjoy my beer on a Saturday night or Sunday for hockey and football games, ill enjoy wasting countless hours with my kids building lego.

I dunno if this will help anyone but felt I need to share.

 

 

 

Why Your Significant Other Can’t Stand The Fucking Assholes In Your Amway Upline

I thought I’d cover some reasons why significant others can’t tolerate their upline and ultimately Amway based on my experiences but I see too many similar stories all over the Internet. I am not unique!

1. The sponsor is an asshole! Our sponsor, aka Captain Fuck Up aka the arrogant prick, is someone Ambot has known for years. He is the most useless piece of shit I’ve ever met. Besides being arrogant some of his other finer points are he’s unreliable, irresponsible, stomps off in temper tantrums, and is asshole ugly. From there it goes downhill! If the sponsor is someone that the significant other has nothing to do with then it is a really bad idea to let this fucker sign you up to Amway. Any existing problems with this jerk ass will only worsen. Bad bad idea getting involved in anything - whether it be Amway or anything else - with a person your significant other doesn’t want anything to do with. The resentment only grows.

2. Loss of money. We had already tried the Amway thing. I knew exactly what would happen again. We’d throw a lot of money away buying expensive products that I don’t like and don’t use. We’d throw away even more money on various tools to “grow your business” and all the various expenses that go along with travelling to out of state functions several times a year. If I was lucky our losses would be a few thousand dollars until Ambot ran out of money or became disenchanted again. Myestimates show to budget at least $700/month for Amwayrelated expenses. How many people have that kind of disposable cash lying around? If not, see number 3.

3. Going into debt. This could be credit card debt as in Ambot’s case. Other people take out second mortgages on their homes or lines of credit. Any way you look at it IBO’s are borrowing money to fund their upline’s dreams and many former IBO’s have lost their homes and declared bankruptcy when they can’t repay the money they borrowed for Amway.

4. Loss of time. Forget the often touted 10 to 15 hours a week - your spouse will waste way more time than that! They have to prospect every person they run into telling them about this kick ass home based opportunity where you can make $75,000/year oh hell no make it $100,000/year in your spare time and beg them to come to a board plan meeting all the while denying it has anything to do with Amway. Hours spent on the phone and text messages with upline. Two or three board plans each week at various downline/crossline houses or it might be a larger function where a Diamond comes to town once or twice a month. Lowball estimate 5 hours a night for these meetings. Weekend rallies happen about once a month where a Diamond comes to town and new pins are awarded. Depends if its a one or 2 day event. Say at least 10 hours but that could be doubled. Family Reunion, Free Enterprise Days, and Spring Leadership always seem to be held hundreds of miles away. Several hours driving each way and then at least 30 hours tied up for weekend events. And that’s a conservative estimate. All that time spent with Amway related events takes the IBO out of the picture for birthdays, weddings, spending time with family and friends, outings, vacations, shopping, etc. How many pissed off spouses have sat alone home on their birthdays while their significant other rushed off to an Amway meeting? Not to mention not getting any support with household chores.

5. Can’t stand the upline. This is closely connected to the general dislike of the sponsor and people they associate with. Dislike of the upline might take awhile at least until it becomes obvious that the upline are monopolizing the spouse’s time. And money. But usually the Amway disinterested spouse just gets pissed off at all the bullshit spouting out of the upline’s mouths and then refuses to have anything to do with them.

6. Brainwashing. This is part of the upline’s strategy to separate the new IBO from “negative” forces in their life which includes any spouses not interested in Amway. The crazy thing is the upline themselves are the most negative bastards around spreading their predictions of doom and gloom and misery and the only way to escape this horrible existence is belonging to the Amway cult. Although some Ambots say they’re not in a line of sponsorship that abuses IBO’s or uses cult-like brainwashing techniques, I was in a line that did. You’ll know its happening when the spouse stops thinking for himself and parrots everything the upline says. The spouse accepts everything the upline says as the truth until he becomes conditioned to think that there is no way in hell this information could be wrong. He denies what is happening to himself and his life, separating himself from reality.

7. Deception. Call it whatever you want – all Ambots are guilty of lying. They lie about their affiliation with Amway, their success, and any abuses that might be happening in their group. The big lie is the tool scam and how the greedy upline leaders are obsessed with making money at the expense of their downline. Ambot wasn’t too good at prospecting because he’d break down quickly and tell prospects that this was Amway and then he’d lie and say everything’s going really good. All IBO’s are conditioned to say that even though none of them are making money at their Amway business. Its really annoying to listen to the spouse not being truthful when you know damn well they’re not making any money at the Amway scheme.

Add them up and this is why the spouse can’t stand the upline and/or Amway and why this causes trouble in a partnership. Brainwashed IBO’s will parrot their upline and claim “That’s because there is already something wrong with their marriage/relationship”. The standard answer whenever a spouse doesn’t want anything to do with Amway.

But not one of those fucking IBO’s can explain why there were no existing marital problems before Amway entered the picture.