Who’d Have Thought? A Roomful Of Winners

At the Amway meetings I attended everyone was constantly reaffirmed (brainwashed) they were a “winner”. A winner simply by showing up! I was sitting in a roomful of winners! Wow!

Gag!!!!

I was always under the (false?) impression that a winner was a person who wins. Based on my definition I bet I was probably the biggest winner in the room. I was 18 when I won my first prize - a cake in a cakewalk! A cake decorated in jelly beans! And I’ve never looked back. I’ve won countless small prizes in raffles and radio and TV contests like books, concert tickets, and Starbuck’s gift cards. I’ve won cash several times on radio contests over the years. I’ve even won some trips. I look at my good luck because of the way I treat others well, donate to charities, and not being involved in illegal or criminal activities. Do a good deed every day! Random acts of kindness to strangers. There’s an old saying about how good things happen to good people.

Now I just gotta hope that the saying about the good die young – don’t!!!!

I’d say I have a better track record than the rest of the room when it comes to being a winner. I’ve made more money on contests than I ever did in Amway! With no money invested. Just a little time. Not even 10 to 15 hours a week!

Everyone else in the room is a “winner” just because they showed up wearing a business suit.

Oh I get it! The winner is the person who catches the most prospects! The prize is the adoring affection of the sack of shit Platinum.

No that can’t be right. The winners in this room rarely brought prospects. No adoring affection for any of them. Instead everyone was on the receiving end of the Platinum’s scorn.

The real winners? Those of us who said: “Fuck you Amway. I’m outta here.”

Whatever happened to that roomful of “winners”? Are they winning or are they losing?

Most of those “winners” are still hanging in there losing their money and losing their downline. The rest of the winners hopped on the fuck you Amway bandwagon.

 

“I’m Not In Amway” Lies The Ambot

How do you know when someone in Amway is lying? Their mouth is moving. Or if it’s the Internet – when they’re typing something.

Why do lying scamming Amway assholes show up on a site that’s all about making fun of Amway losers and try to convince us they’re not in Amway?

Really I don’t give a shit one way or another if someone reading this blog is in Amway but I do know from our time inside the cult that we had to deny any involvement with Amway and that’s still taught today. Amway has such a bad reputation that everyone knows it’s a scam. Well maybe not those young enough who haven’t heard of it before but maybe they should ask their parents or grandparents. Except they’re not allowed to say the “A” word.

Now how do I know when someone says they’re not in Amway and they’re really NOT in Amway. Usually it’s a wife or girlfriend who shows up and says she’s not in Scamway but her husband/boyfriend is and the fucking assholes in his upline are making her life hell and they’re broke all the time because he’s always buying shitty overpriced Amway products. Or it’ll be another family member or a friend who has a similar story – the Amway cult follower has turned into a mean nasty son of a bitch all through his worship of the Great Amway God. Sometimes it’ll be someone who says they went to an Amway cult meeting and HOLY SHIT did they dodge a bullet and are staying away from those Ambot bastards and they’re here to share their story. Occasionally readers leave comments that they used to be in Amway, some from as far back as the 70’s, and sometimes they search it online and they share the story of the lies they heard and the money they lost.

There’s no reason to doubt any of these type of stories from people who say they’re not in Amway.

It’s the ones who show up and say they’re not in Amway but they’re studying it and decide it’s a great opportunity LOL!!!! Or they’re “not in Amway” but randomly end up at an old post after searching for more information on Amway Spring Leadership or WWDB Family Reunion and leave a comment saying they’re not in Amway, spout off a bunch of canned Amspeak propaganda the same bullshit the assholes in our Amway upline were spouting off many years ago and then they insult us. The usual Amspeak screechings and bitchings about how we didn’t try hard enough or the system works if you’re a winner.

Here’s the scoop when someone who isn’t in Amway but has a friend/family member in the scam they’re looking for support, they’re sharing the evil that has invaded their life. They’re unhappy especially if it’s their husband and he’s draining their bank account and running up the credit card. Someone with a loved one in Amway isn’t stopping by to say they’ve looked at “the business” and then gush all their loving and then they spout off a bunch of canned Amspeak bullshit and accuse everyone at this blog of being a negative unchristian dreamstealer who’s a quitter who didn’t try hard enough and who will be dead or broke by age 65.

People who are not in Amway usually have heartwrenching stories to share or entertaining stories about how they figured out Amway was a scam and they’re not getting conned.

It’s like if you work at McDonald’s but you don’t want to tell someone you work there cause you’re embarrassed. If you’re going to deny it you better not be wearing a McDonald’s uniform and eating a Big Mac.

Why show up here and leave a comment denying being in Amway when it’s pretty clear you are? Just don’t leave a comment at all. But I suppose you got to get your practice at lying in somewhere. If your Amway lies ain’t getting you nowhere here those lies ain’t going to work anywhere else you try them.

Next time try finding a job where you’re not embarrassed to work there and don’t have to lie about it.

 

 

Amway Losers Love Making Assholes Out Of Themselves

You got to be a good liar to be in Amway and Ambots show up here to tell whoppers but not really all that much more different than the lies I heard at Amway meetings. On a website that is dedicated to making losers in Amway look like a bunch of assholes it’s just incredible how these Ambots flock here to further prove that they’re assholes. Just when you think you got all the proof you need that people in Amway are a bunch of fucking assholes another loser shows up to make sure we know he’s an Amway asshole too! LOL!

There's the scam Amway Ambots lie about how the owners of the BBB and the owners of Amway are involved in a big orgy fuck fest and the BBB endorses Amway and all the other bullshit lies they come up with. Anyone can read the BBB page and see they're a 3^rd party service to help with customer/business complaints and they stay impartial and don't endorse any business. The fact that Amway has to hire a small army of staff to respond to BBB complaints before the time’s up deadline and the fact that Amway's terms and conditions threaten termination to any IBO who brags about any imagined affiliation the BBB and Amway has means nothing to Ambots. They show up here bragging about how the BBB and Amway are in bed together. Now we all know that if Amway actually followed their own rules and fired IBO's bragging about the BBB then they'd have no one left to buy their shitty overpriced Amway products.

The lies about the compensation to be made in Amway continue to the extent of some lying scamming Amway bastards showing up here to brag about how they're retired at age 20 thanks to the bazillions of dollars rolling in every month from Amway while they sit back and do nothing and how rich they got after being in Amway a few months. I've even had a couple of lying scamming Amway losers claim to be triple executive Diamonds show up here and try to bullshit us. Theo being the most entertaining claiming to make $400,000/year from Scamway and he bought all kinds of chain restaurants, gas stations, and hotels on that Amway income. The other triple executive Diamond was anonymous and rolled off 2 insulting sneering typo filled comments before remembering his “title” and the 3^rd comment he claimed that he was a triple executive Diamond. Here's the scoop you dumb fucks. Anyone who's reached that level in Amway is too busy trying to scam other people in real life instead of searching for  information on the Internet about the upcoming Amway function. The big wigs already got that memo from head office!

Then there's the losers who believe the lying scamming Amway cult leaders that Artistry cosmetics is #2 in the world LOL! Thanks to a survey company in Europe that no one on this side of the ocean has ever heard about where companies buy their position on that poll. The reality is Artistry isn't even in the top 50 retail sellers of cosmetics, though they were a few years ago, but never at the top of the list.

Then there’s the fucking Amway loser who leaves a comment on the post about the world’s top cosmetic companies. That post is an ambot magnet. Every fucking Amway loser around shows up to screech and bitch on that post. This Ambot demands to know the name of the European marketing company that Amway uses to put themselves at #2 on prestige cosmetics and wants to know what proof I have Amway pays this marketing company. Well I have no proof. For all I know Amway is stiffing them on the bill. But it seems unlikely that if a client ain’t paying their bill then the marketing firm won’t list them as a client on their web page. The last Ambot who left a comment on this topic right on top of this other Amway loser’s comment even put a link in for Euromonitor and their Amway client page. LOL! This fucking Amway loser can’t even read the last comment ahead of his and get the information he’s looking for! LOL! Like we need further proof people in Amway are a bunch of dumb fucks! LOL!

And then we had a couple of fucking Amway assholes stopping by to brag that Amway made 12 billion in sales. Seeing as how Amway's income has been sliding by a billion or more a year for the past few years and then like all lying scamming Amway assholes do they throw around a bunch of numbers to try to confuse everyone and claim they can’t find no interviews with Amway owners talking about last year’s losses even when readers to this blog even provided the link. But what else do you expect from fucking Amway losers. They’re taught by their cult leaders not to trust outside sources and to only believe and worship the Amway cult leaders. Still doesn't stop those Ambots from bragging about how much money Amway makes. And really why the fuck do they think we care how much money Amway makes or is losing over the past couple of years? That’s good news or lately bad news for the people who own Amway but to everyone else who doesn’t have a financial interest who the fuck cares? It’s like what are the cost of Facebook shares? It might be slightly interesting because Facebook is a popular company and the price of their shares has increased 400% from where they started on opening day, who remembers those shares sinking immediately but now they’re doing good. Good news for people who bought lots of stock when it was low but unless you play the stock market who gives a shit how much Facebook is worth, other than the owner of course. 

And lets not forget the dumb fuck Amway Ambot from India who claims former President George Bush is now an Amway salesman! LOL! And the White House is eagerly buying up overpriced shitty Amway products so he can make a skimpy commission. Maybe they can get away with that bullshit in 3^rd world countries where news and current affairs is hard to come by. Around this blog it just further proves that Amway Ambots are liars and scammers and gives us something to laugh about.

What about South Carolina’s Amway Masturbator who jacks off into SA8 soap. Thanks to gadgets or widgets or plugins or whatever they're called his comments go right to spam. Took awhile for that widget to learn the masturbator's pattern and now that motherfucker is posting from Atlanta, Georgia. Any system isn't foolproof so it's possible the occasional comment gets through. Having a weird sex fetish is one thing but showing up on a website that is all about making fun of Amway assholes and bragging about poking your dick into soap is just fucking stupid. Talk about LOVING your fucking Amway soap. And then he claims he made a sale of SA8 and delivered the soap to the woman’s house and then uh lets just say gave her a demonstration and claims she enjoyed it. I don’t know about the rest of you ladies but I don’t want any Amway loser or any other son of a bitch in Amway or not giving me a demonstration of masturbating into my laundry soap. And the Amway Masturbator found the one woman in the whole world who actually enjoyed watching that? Unlikely. Another fucking Amway liar. And fucking in more ways that one seeing as how he lives to fuck the Amway soap.

And let’s not forget all the Ambots who show up here screeching at us to do our research. It’s like fuck you. Our real life experiences at buying and using Amway products, sitting through countless Amway board plans, and going to Amway functions and listening to all the lies and bullshit from the Amway cult leaders isn’t research. Like what more fucking research do these Amway losers want than our real life experiences? And speaking of doing your research they can’t even take their own fucking advice because obviously none of those Amway losers did their research or they wouldn’t have jumped on the Amway bandwagon when there’s over 99% failure rate. Only a tiny fraction of 1% of IBO’s make money. Most people who do research would look for better opportunities than 99%+ failure rate. So right back at you you fucking Amway losers – do your research!

Let’s just send out another big old FUCK YOU to Amway and their commissioned sales force who feel compelled to show up at this blog and make assholes out of themselves.

Fuck all of you!

 

Amway Ambots On A Mission To Find People Who Want To Save Money

“We want to show you how to save money buying from your own shop and then you find other people who want to save money and teach them how to set up their own shops so they can save money too.”

I heard that phrase many times - or similar wording - at every Amway meeting I attended.

The statement sounds reasonable enough. Shop from your own store and save money buying products that you would purchase anyway. Yeah, sounds good. Everyone wants to save money and get good deals on products they regularly purchase.

The problem is our upline bullied Ambot into changing his spending habits to buy shit that we never bought before, that I didn’t like, and often we didn’t end up using. He didn’t save money because he spent way more money than if he’d purchased comparable products at the grocery and drug store. And we ended up wasting money by throwing out a bunch of useless, shitty Amway products.

How is that saving us money? We’re spending hundreds of dollars a month on Amway products that we’ve never had on our shopping list. Energy drinks, food bars, bottled water, and vitamins to mention a few.

I don’t consider myself an avid shopper but I hit the drug stores and grocery stores enough times that I have a good idea of prices and quality and good value.

Ambot does not. Oh he might spot a good deal and stock up on the item but for the most part he doesn’t know how much things cost at the store.

He blindly accepted the upline’s (bad) advice that Amway’s products would save us money and these items were better quality than what could be purchased at the local retailers and that he should buy, buy, buy! He MUST be his own best customer. Including himself and a few occasional pity purchasers his customer base was five.

Because of the upline’s influence over Ambot being  his own best customer I got stuck using inferior products that did not save us money.

The real damage with the “save money” by shopping at your own store philosophy is IBO’s like Ambot do not do price comparisons with other retailers and overspend by buying stuff that they normally would not have purchased.

I know how to save money when I’m shopping. Its by having a good idea of what the prices are of groceries and sundries that I regularly purchase at the grocery and drug stores and recognizing when something is on sale at a decent enough price to buy it. Then I watch the flyers and when I see something on sale that I regularly purchase I stock up. If I see something in the flyer that’s a good price but its not something I need - I don’t buy it. See? Saving money?

I save a lot of money now that we don’t have to buy shitty overpriced Amway products.

 

An Amkid Talks About Life With Amway Ambot Parents

Amway fucks up another family. An Amkid remembers life in the Amway cult from 3 decades ago. Thanks for the insight into how kids understand how Amway destroys lives:

 

Recently some very close friends got “into the business”, and it has forced me to revisit how I feel about Amway and its impact on my childhood.

A profound sadness has hung over me since our friends told us they were considering a particular organization (which was not Amway, of course, eye roll, it is WWDB). I knew right then we were going to lose them as friends. This man has been my husband’s closest friend since high school. They have been through a ton together, and losing them is really devastating for us.

I carefully reminded them that I was an Amway kid (an Amkid?) and asked them if they wanted my perspective on growing up in Amway. I told them once and promised to support them thereafter. I knew if they didn’t hear that we are willing to support them, I would be cutting off our relationship right then and there. Nice baggage, huh.

My parents are ‘lifers’. They’ve been in since I was 8. That was 38 years ago. They had two deep teams that generated some income until they fell apart, probably 25-30 years ago.

My childhood was weirder than I realized.

-Annoyed neighbors. Weekly Tuesday night ‘product pickup’ which filled the street with the team coming to pick up their products. Weekly ‘team calling’ every Sunday night when all my Dad’s buddies would come over to call random people they had met at the grocery store, and shout ‘Loser’ or ‘Sap’ (what the heck is that anyway?) every time they got turned down. Those guys were loud down in the basement while my siblings and I were upstairs doing homework and preparing for the school week.

- Tools. Dumb, dumb tapes and books. I had NO IDEA that they were so expensive until I started reading about AmCult recently. Seriously, I thought upline was giving that stuff to my Dad. I hope my kids don’t think NPR is as annoying as I thought those tapes were.

- Negative wives. We heard all about these negative women, and how my mom struggled because she knew she was viewed as one. She is very introverted and not peppy enough. Yet she slaved over the weekly product order, product pick up, and angelically dealt with my Dad never being home. I tell you, I would be the negativest of negative wives ever.

- Functions. Gee, I wonder why we never took any family vacations? Because my parents had to go to 4 functions every year. They took us 1 time that I can remember, because some upline approved kids coming to a beach trip. A commenter above described it perfectly...we sat in the hotel room with a 13 year old babysitter watching R rated movies. The other times, my parents left us with babysitters that we didn’t really know or feel comfortable with. I am thankful that I never suffered any abuse other than neglect in any of these situations, and I hope my siblings were also safe.

- Lost friends. I bet my parents could have let us stay at friends’ houses for all those functions instead of getting weird babysitters, but they had alienated all their/our friends soon after getting into Amway. New friends were always business colleagues, and of course they came and went.

- Oh my word, stop. talking. to. everyone. My Dad would talk to everyone, everywhere. He is an extravert so he would probably have done that anyway, but I HATED knowing his friendliness was ultimately not genuine, at least I did not believe it could be. I would shuffle off and try to hide. It was always the same conversation with the same lead ins.

- Faith. After they started Amway, my parents drew away from church involvement and let Amway replace church for them. That’s something I have not seen much mention of in blogs, and it may be specific to LTD, Britt, or just the South. But in Amway, it was trendy to be a Christian, and all the functions had church services where droves of people would accept Christ like they had just been listening to Billy Graham. This made my Dad very excited, and I get why, but the lines were blurred between business and religion and it was about control, not about following the most humble man who ever walked the earth. As children, we lost connection with families from church that I, particularly, had grown up with. My parents had no more time for Bible studies or service projects, so we didn’t get to go either.

- Health. My Dad’s health suffered big time. He was a tall thin man who enjoyed working around the house before Amway. Then, then he became a man who constantly attended midnight meetings at IHOP, probably slept about 5 hours a night on average, and got fat. He has never lost all that weight, but he knows he can count on Nutri-lite vitamins to keep him going. That might have worked in his 40’s but he is in his late 60’s now and I am very worried about him.

-Time. I suppose my Dad would have spent more time with us if he had been home in the evenings. Ultimately, I don’t think he was a bad as some people probably were, as I have never questioned his love and commitment. I’m not sure what I missed, but I was a very compliant child overall, and as a teenager I tasted a little freedom and normalcy and began to rebel and put as much emotional distance as I could between myself and my parents. It would not be until I had children that I truly wanted to be around them again.

These days, my parents are still trying to build their business, while they also work their annoying J.O.B.s (as an engineer and teacher). The only irritation for me is planning visits around functions. That really, really annoys me. I can’t see why they can’t see that their business has failed.

Our friends who have been sucked into Amway have presented the ‘plan’ to all of our mutual friends. One couple went through most of the process and went to several meetings (in another city, mind you, because we do not have an open meeting here). An upline told my pregnant friend, “This is the perfect time for you to start building your business, when you kids are babies. They won’t even remember you being gone!” I wanted to vomit when I heard that. Thankfully this couple decided to run the other way.

WWDB World Wide Dream Builders Amway Family Reunion 2026

Brainwashed Amway cult followers are frantically looking for information on Family Reunion so let’s get this post up to the top of Google searches to reel ‘em in!

Calling the Amway WWDB function “family reunion” is very cultish. Its how the Amway cult leaders brainwash the followers into believing that their Amway family is their real family now. Many people join cults because they don’t have a good family and they’re desperate to join a family that will welcome them with open arms. Cults prey on these people. They prey on those who have good relationships with their family too. They’re an equal opportunity cult! The Amway cult works hard at separating their followers from family members who are negative to “the business”. Separate and divide. We’re your new family now. And we’re throwing a big family reunion. You must attend. You will be love bombed all weekend. You won’t believe the love you’ll get from your new Amway family. This is how you show your loyalty to your cult leaders. Family reunion is for serious business builders. If you don’t come to Family Reunion we’ll know you’re not a serious business builder and we won’t work with you.

And the bullshit goes on. All good little brainwashed IBO’s must attend Family Reunion.

If anyone knows the new login and password for the WWDB website let us know so we can get the dates, location, and theme out there and make fun of it. Those Amway motherfuckers changed their guest log in. Cults are very secretive that way. Can’t let the infidels find out where they’ll be.

Thanks to one of our readers a few years ago we found out that an Amway Family Reunion booked the Spokane Arena in Washington one August. Not July.

I checked the convention center because Amway has held cult meetings there in the past. I found “Duncan Event” in July with nothing else in the description. But I mean it is pretty fucking embarrassing to admit you have anything to do with Amway. I’m getting tired of trying to track down where these top secret Amway cult meetings are being held but one thing we know is they’re being held in smaller places. That may not have an online calendar for all to see. The Amway cult leaders have had to downsize from arenas and school auditoriums to smaller spaces because of the declining attendance at ScAmway functions.

There is no way of knowing the top secret agenda for what will happen at this year’s Amway Family Reunion but here’s what was on topic a few years ago at WWDB Amway Family Reunion and its probably still the main theme:

BELIEVE

Yes in big capital letters. World Wide Dream Builders are SCREAMING at us! So what the fuck we’re supposed to believe?

Apparently if you believe your business will flourish and grow - it will.

Well holy shit! That was the secret all along. All you have to do is BELIEVE. None of this stalking recruits or selling overpriced Amway shit. All you gotta do is BELIEVE!

Nothing else!

OK we don’t want to get accused of infringing copyright laws by copying and pasting so I’ll paraphrase the bullshit from the WWDB web page. If you attend Amway Family Reunion you will be inspired to BELIEVE you can build an Amway business. You will be motivated to use your talents to help others BELIEVE.

Sounds like a bunch of brainwashed cult bullshit to me. But this Family Reunion claims to offer something that has never been heard of before at any prior Family Reunion. Apparently there will be sales, product, and technology training.

Ha! Unlikely! Family Reunion consists of an endless march of Ken and Barbie Ambots strutting across the stage in evening gowns and tuxedos bragging about their wealth.

What does it cost to attend WWDB Amway Family Reunion. Last we heard tickets were $560/couple so say around the same price this year. I recorded $850 for other costs for this bullshit event - hotel, food, travel. So ballpark it around $1500 for a couple. The sky is the limit depending on air travel and hotel and food costs.

Shit - got an email on a Mexican cruise for $599 and that’s a week worth of hotel, food, and accommodation. And much more fun holiday for 2 people all for less than the price of wasting time, money, and brain cells at Amway Family Reunion.

But the ambots will come in droves, whipped on by their cult leaders.

WWDB Amway Family Reunion sucks!

Fuck Amway!

Fuck WWDB World Wide Dream Builders.

Fuck those World Wide Destructive Bastards!

 

Turn Off Your Fucking Cell Phones!

At every Amway board plan meeting I attended, the person who lived there stood up to introduce the pompous sack of shit Platinum. Seeing as how it was pretty much always the same group of about 10 or 12 people and we all knew who he was - why bother? He could have just stepped into the room and started talking. But instead he wants to be introduced like he’s some big rock star.

Meetings started at 8pm (if they started on time that is) and before the Platinum started  the brainwashing session the person introducing him would ask everyone to turn off their cell phones. Pretty much everyone dutifully complied.

Yeah you guessed it. I was the rogue stand out. Most people I know don’t phone that late at night - and here I’m talking after 9 - unless there is an emergency. If there is an emergency I want to be reachable. To hell with the sack of shit Platinum.

Sadly, my phone never rang once at any Amway meetings I attended. Likely due to most people who phone me its usually earlier in the day and most people call me on the house phone not my cell. I rarely give out my cell number.

One night we’re sitting in a living room and there's a fair amount of people there, maybe 30 or 40. Ambot wasn’t sitting with me. He was standing in the back of the room. This particular home had comfy living room furniture. I was in an easy chair or couch, don’t really recall, and I was sinking into it enjoying how soft it was. The Platinum was boring me with the same old same old and I’d closed my eyes and was hoping to fall asleep but unfortunately I didn’t.

Later on Ambot told me that the “sharp businessmen” he was standing with in the back of the living room had noticed and asked him if I was falling asleep to which he agreed it sure looked like it. They were really pissed off that I was being bored to sleep by their amazing Platinum. Ambot tipped them off that my cell phone likely hadn’t been turned off and they thought it might be fun to phone me and that I’d be embarrassed by the phone ringing in the middle of the sack of shit's brainwashing session. I think Ambot convinced them that I wouldn’t be embarrassed if my phone rang. In fact I might not hear it. I mean I’d hear it but I wouldn’t associate it with it with my phone ringing. I would just think someone else had the same ring tone as I have.

What really bugged the shit out of me was that Ambot gave my cell phone number WITHOUT MY PERMISSION to the fucking asshole sponsor and a couple of other fucking assholes in our Amway upline I don’t recall who. I don’t want any of these bastards knowing my phone number or phoning me. I can only hope they’ve all deleted me out of their contacts. None of them were ever in my contact list.

I just dare that fucking arrogant prick that sponsored us to ever phone me. I'll give him shit supreme like he's never heard before!

When it comes to Amway losers - Don’t phone me and I won’t phone you.