Amway Products Are Too Fucking Expensive!

Who remembers going to Amway meetings and hearing the cult leader brainwashing and bullshitting the followers who are having difficulty overcoming customer objections to buying Amway products because the price is too high.

And who remembers the lying scamming fucking Amway asshole who has the canned Amspeak response for everything saying something like: “Amway’s products are priced high to reflect their high quality.”

LOL! Bullshit!

Amway does NOT sell high quality products. Compare to similar items sold in the retail stores Amway’s products are grossly overpriced, they’re usually substandard or generic at best compared with similar lower priced products sold everywhere else.

I never believed the bullshit from the fucking assholes in our Amway upline about how Amway’s high prices reflect their high quality. I know good quality and I know bad quality and I can tell the difference pretty damn quick by trying the product myself.

I mean I am scared shitless to try energy drinks because the fucking assholes in our Amway upline said XS is the best energy drink out there. XS tastes like cat piss or depending on the flavor maybe a combo of cat piss and the worst cough medicine out there. If that’s the best energy drink in the world then damn right I’m scared shitless to try any other brand because what if. I mean just what if this is the one rare time when those fucking assholes in our Amway upline weren’t lying and there are actually energy drinks out there that taste worst than Amway’s XS piss water.

Amway’s high quality LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL have got nothing to do with why their products are so high priced. It’s all got to do with profit and commission.

Let’s take the $20 lipstick Amway sells. It costs about $1 to make lipstick and that includes the packaging. Compare to Avon where I can buy a $3 lipstick and there are lots of color choices. Amway only offers about 5 shades. Maybe more now but I doubt it. Undoubtedly the price has also increased but we're sticking to $20 because it's an easy number to work with. So what’s the better deal. Avon of course. And Avon wins everytime when comparing their products to Amway’s. Avon has better prices, better quality, and better selection. The only people buying Amway’s lipstick are female Ambots or the wives of Ambots. They probably have poor decision making abilities too. When you only have 5 colors to choose from it shouldn’t take too long to make a decision.

But go back to Amway’s $20 lipstick and my hypothetical guess at how the dollars are distributed though I’m probably pretty close. After manufacturing that leaves $19 proceeds. Amway’s owners need to jack up the price so they can make a hefty profit plus every little thing they sale must have a portion going to their overall operating expenses. So out of that $19 let’s say Amway’s owners take $15. They put a bit of that back into their business operating expenses but mostly its split between the owners.  That leaves $4. Is that the commission for the Ambot at the bottom of the pyramid who made the sale? Hell no! That’s communal commission split many ways. The guy doing all the hard work making the sale only makes pennies. Let’s say the Amway commissioned salesman makes 6 cents after busting his ass begging and pleading with some woman he knows to buy his overpriced shitty Amway lipstick. The rest of that $4 is split in commission in everyone in his Amway upline because that’s how this scam works. Ambots way high up in the pyramid that he’s never met are making money off his sale. And because they have a higher BV they’re making more commission that that loser ambot who made the sale! LOL! Surely those dumb fucks who want to be commissioned sales reps can find a better paying job than Scamway.

The high price does NOT reflect Amway’s high quality. It reflects how many people have to get a piece of the sale’s action.

The same scenario can be played out whether its Amway’s $40 laundry soap or $100 vitamins. Again products that don’t cost a whole lot to manufacture including the packaging. But Amway’s owners take a huge chunk of each sale for their profit and the balance is left over for commission for everyone in the upline of the jackass Ambot who made the sale.

So there you have it. The next time a lying scamming fucking Amway asshole tries to bullshit you that Amway’s products are priced so high to reflect their high quality tell the bastard the real reason. The products have to be so high priced so everyone can get a piece of the commission and Amway owners can make a huge profit of the sale. It ain’t got piss all to do with quality because the quality of Amway’s products is the shits and if they were really priced to reflect the quality Amway wouldn’t sell nothing that costs more than a buck..

 

 

Ambots Claim Amway Is The ONLY Thing One Can Do To Succeed In Life

When I attended Amway WWDB Dream Night several couples were invited to come forward, take the microphone, and say something. I think they may have been eagles or double eagles. They’d reached some level but I’m sure it wasn’t Platinum or higher. I remember one couple who were extolling the virtues of an Amway business and the wife screamed out “What else is there?” Assuming she meant in the way of business opportunities or making money outside of a J.O.B.

Let me answer her question. Just about EVERYTHING else is out there! I know lots of people who have found success while successfully staying away from Amway.

“Amway is the ONLY thing you can do to succeed in life” is a message I’ve heard over and over again at meetings run by Platinum, Emerald, and Diamond speakers. Part of the brainwashing technique. Can’t let IBO’s think there are other things out there where they can succeed in life that might redirect their time, energy, or money away from the Amway scam. Ambot already has reasonable success but once he joined the Amway cult his business was constantly put down for one reason or another (what if he gets sick, what if there’s a slow down, etc) and he was brainwashed into thinking his business won’t last but Amway success is forever.

Everyone has different opinions on what defines success. I could list hundreds of items and still not be finished. For some people success could be determined by earning a desired income, reaching a scholastic level, owning a restaurant that is packed every night with patrons, getting picked for a local circuit baseball team, publishing a book, playing a musical instrument, losing weight, getting married, buying a New York City penthouse overlooking Central Park..... The possibilities are endless.

Suggesting that to most rational human beings - Amway is NOT the ONLY thing one can do to succeed in life.

“There is nothing else out there except Amway” is a similar phrase drilled into IBO’s as part of the brainwashing techniques. The cult leaders tell IBO’s they must discard anything else in their life that isn’t making them succeed at Amway.

I also heard enough times “What are you willing to give up to succeed in this business?”

The possibilities of what an IBO should discard are also an endless list: spouse, friends, church, job, TV, books, hobbies, car, house......

Who says you have to give up things or whatever makes you tick as part of your lifestyle in order to become successful?

How many apprentice mechanics are asked what things they are willing to give up so they can fix cars? Who would tell a mechanic in order to open up his own garage he must give up his wife, his TV, his friends and his hobbies, sell his house, get rid of his dog, etc or he will never succeed.

Ridiculous huh? Well maybe only to people who are not brainwashed IBO’s. People are capable of juggling other things in their lives while at the same time succeeding at their chosen goals. Apparently not Amway IBO's if you listen to the hallowed cult leaders.

Amway is NOT the ONLY thing one can do to succeed in life. Based on mine and Ambot’s experiences I’d say Amway is about the only thing we’ve ever failed at. In a system designed to set up failure. What else do you expect?

 

Amway Employees Treated Like Shit?

Occasionally past and current Amway employees show up here to talk about what its like working there. Based on employee’s views Amway treats its employees like shit. Even the customer service rep who can’t string a sentence together or spell to save her (his?) life and showed up to curse out ambots who phone their I-don’t-give-a-shit line to lie about not receiving products gave us insight on what its like working there. And one could argue that Amway’s hiring department dredges the bottom of the sewer and has low quality requirements for hiring staff and just hires anyone they’re so desperate but that still doesn’t make it right for them to treat their employees like shit just because they can’t get good employees. Here’s another employee story.

I work at the plant as a temp and I hate it. I Hate the overhead, the treatment, and working on cheap/shitty products while the suits just comes down like pigeons to shit on everything. I don't even make three hundred bucks a week because Amway slaves out the temp services while the full time employees do jack shit and make triple the amount of pay. It is a wretched place to work or even assosciate with. I'm sorry that is is as horrible on the business end of the deal as well.

Some people are so desperate for a job and make money to pay the bills that they will take a job that comes along even with a shitty employer who treats their employees like shit. I remember going to Amway cult meetings and the Diamonds would be gloating about all the plants and warehouses were Amway produces their “fine quality” products. Ha ha! Make that shitty overpriced products! But really according to this Amway employee who is treated like a slave these Amway plants are no different than sweat shops in 3^rd world countries. I’m sure I’m not the only one who checks the labels before I buy things. If I see something is made in Bangladesh home of many warehouse fires and deaths in sweat shop factories I ain’t gonna buy it. Just like I don’t buy no shit that says Amway Alticor or whatever other names they use to disguise who they are. Forget the fact that its an overpriced shitty product and I can buy similar way cheaper from reputable companies. If it comes from an Amway sweat shop where employees are treated like shit that’s just as good a reason not to buy.

So why stay in a shithole job and put up with shitty employers? Like I said desperate to take any job to pay the bills. Eventually another job will come along and people quit and move on. And I get it that Amway’s not the only employer out there that treats employees like shit but we’re not talking about other shitty employers because I don’t get employees from other companies showing up here to bitch about their jobs and out their employer. Instead I’ve had 20 year Amway employees complain to me that they still don’t get benefits after putting in all that time. Shitty employers like Amway know employment loopholes and how to get around giving benefits and good pay. They keep employees rated as temporary or part time and go through temp agencies to bring in staff.

What about all those fucking Amway ambots that show up here and leave comments gloating about how Amway made 12 billion dollars last year. A company that makes that much money can’t pay its employees better and give them benefits? Like fuck you! There are tons of companies out there that don’t bring that much money and pay their employees well and have benefits and pension plan. It takes a low class greedy employer bringing in that kind of money to treat its employees like shit just so there’s more money in the owners bank accounts.

OK wretched Amway employee I’m sorry things are so tough for you but really there are jobs out there that pay better and where you get treated better. Walmart and McDonalds come to mind that seem to be easy to get jobs at because there’s a high turnover. Same as other food and restaurant businesses. High turnover always looking for new hires. I get it that these are the kind of places that Amway cult leaders make fun of in their cult meetings but who gives a flying fuck what those Amway assholes think. Putting other people down and putting their jobs down is something that brings happiness to those Amway assholes. Do some research and find out which employers offer benefits to employees and apply there. Even Starbucks the butt of many jokes from the assholes in the Amway upline “big bucks, hua hua hua I’m so fucking clever” offers benefits to part time employees.

Bottom line is many of these places pay better than Amway does. Maybe benefits too. And treat their employees better too.

Here’s the thing people if your employer is Amway or someone else and is treating the staff like shit there are regulating agencies in your state where you can file a complaint. Sure it’ll probably end up that you’ll get fired from your job because that’s what shitty employers do rather than buckle and treat their employees better but at least you’ve filed a complaint and your shithole employer will be investigated and maybe fined. Nobody files frivolous complaints when they know they’ll get retaliated by their employer. They’re doing it cause it’s the right thing to do. Out the fucking bastards they work for!

The Amway corporation treats its employees like shit because the company's basic philosophy is that anyone who works for a salary is a loser. In the eyes of Amway, anyone who holds a "J.O.B." is garbage.

So quite naturally, Anway treats its employees like garbage.

And of course the right thing to do is not work for shitty employers like Amway who treat their employees like shit. Where making a buck is more important than treating employees well.

 

 

Ambot The Social Director

As if it wasn’t bad enough that Ambot wanted to belong to an expensive social club, he became the self appointed social director.

He purchased an XS Energy Drink cooler from the XS Gear website and stuffed it full of Amway drinks and food bars that he took the Amway meetings where he shovelled in as many as he could to prove to everyone around him what a devoted Ambot he was.

If that didn’t piss me off enough the self appointed social director handed out drinks and food bars to everyone else - whether they wanted one or not. If anyone has ever bought this Amway shit you’ll know its FUCKING EXPENSIVE. Depending on what you have when you break down the cost per unit it can be $2 to $5. I like to make expensive stuff last a long time. If someone gives me a box of Ghirardelli chocolate I can make it last for weeks maybe even a few months.

Ambot had no such inclination. He gobbled down a case of food bars and drank a case of XS energy drinks daily. Throw in another case of each that he passed out to every IBO that was sitting around us which really pissed me off. These bastards were all IBO’s who knew how expensive this stuff was. If they wanted to consume it let them buy it themselves and earn their own PV.

Not a single one of those fucking cheap bastards ever shared any of their Amway products with us even though Ambot passed out free XS and food bars all the time.

Just to clarify I’m not this stingy with non-Amway products. If I have a sack of M&M’s I’ll share them. If I have a 12 pack of Coke I’ll hand them out. If I’ve baked a batch of cookies I’ll pass them around. If we invite people over for a BBQ I have a ton of food on hand. Help yourselves.

Ambot easily passed out $50 worth of consumables to others in our crossline or upline while at meetings. What about that budget we had to show the Platinum? Nowhere did I see an entertainment budget of $50/meeting to cover the costs of Amway products that Ambot was passing out to Amway losers. That same $50 could be a nice dinner out somewhere for the two of us.

The Platinum sack of shit stroked Ambot's ego by calling him a server. What the fuck kind of compliment is that???? That's why Ambot's here on earth is to serve others. Ambot ate it all up. Literally when I think about all the Amway consumables he pigged out on. And also literally because he served the shit up to other IBO's at meetings.

And no matter how much the upline might try to plug in to everyone that these are healthy eating choices, no way do I see an XS and a food bar taking the place of a well balanced dinner. Or even a meal that might not be so well balanced.

Ambot might as well have passed out $10 bills to everyone who wanted one.

 

 

Amway Is An Expensive Social Club

Joecool wrote something on his blog to the effect that if you aren’t earning money in your Amway business but are spending lots of money on Amway purchases and tools then its almost like you’ve joined an expensive social club.

I think that statement may apply to Ambot. The more money he spent on Amway products and tools, the more his new friends liked him.

People are busy spending time with friends and family. They’ve busy at their jobs or business owners may end up with some odd hours to accommodate clients. People with school age children are involved in their kids recreational activities or driving them to their activities. Add in grocery shopping, spending time at the gym, walking the dog, and other recreational pursuits. How about quiet time at home reading a book, on the computer, or watching TV. What about the not so fun stuff around the house like cleaning, laundry, mowing the lawn, and keeping the garden weeded. Most people have things to do that fill their days. We lead busy lives just like countless others.

If we weren’t already busy enough after Ambot wanted to do the Amway thing again we were constantly on the go, go, go. Often there would be 2 or 3 board plans in a week that we had to attend even though the same old bullshit we’d heard the night before we listened to again. This would tie us up from 7pm to midnight. Nothing like boring us to death so we’re ready to sleep. Not to mention any other seminars or rallies or other events the upline decided we should attend.

I remember being at a function and listening to a Diamond speaker who was showing the audience “lines” to use to pick up prospects. Say a prospect came up with the objection that “the business” wouldn’t work for them because they don’t have any friends. The Diamond says, then ask them: “How would you like to have some friends?”

The expensive social club reference triggered that memory.

Someone who doesn’t have friends may be interested in joining some sort of social group to meet people. But the purpose of being an Amway IBO is to find other prospects to join up and become IBO's too or to find customers to buy Amway products. So if the only friends you have are people already involved in Amway, there is no chance of getting any of them to sign up to be an IBO or to buy Amway products.

So even though we already lead busy lives Ambot decided we should be even busier. He had a whole new group of friends who were slyly influencing him to leave behind his old friends. He was full of self-importance whenever someone asked him to come over and he’d answer he was busy that night (Amway meeting). Not to mention the overload of text messages and phone calls that he immediately had to deal with from the fucking assholes in his upline.

I’m not here to suggest social clubs or how to meet new friends. All I want to say is if you are looking for a new group of people to hang out with there are many avenues to try. If one of your reasons to join Amway is to have a ready made group of friends that’s a bad decision. Amway is an expensive social club that will cause you financial and emotional distress. When you quit Amway that's the last you'll ever hear of these new friends fickle bastards that they are. These aren’t the kind of friends you need. This isn't the business venture you need.

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

 

Amway Cult Leaders Demand To See Your Budget

I was surprised when Ambot announced that the sack of shit Platinum wanted to see our budget.

“That’s really none of his fucking business,” I responded. “Its not like he works for a bank and we’re going for a loan.”

“But if we’re serious business builders then he says we have to show him a budget,” Ambot argued. Yep that was total Amway speak and for the life of me I couldn’t figure out why the hell the Platinum wanted to see our budget other than Ambot’s loose explanation that the Platinum wanted to help us create a budget that we could follow and help us get financially on track. Let’s see - is he a financial planner? I was pretty sure he has a government job that’s not finance related? But then I forget that not minding their own business is a prerequisite for being a sack of shit Amway Platinum.

I had created a budget sometime during the past couple of years after reading a book written by a financial advisor and one of the exercises was to create a budget. Then I started reading books by another financial advisor who didn’t recommend creating budgets because over 90% of people don’t follow them anyway which is totally true in our case. The budget I had saved on the computer was good enough for me without updating any changes and I printed it out for Ambot.

The Platinum was impressed and said we were in much better shape than most of his downline. Well no shit there’s a reason for that particularly because other than mortgage and business costs we had no debt. We owned our cars and had investments and savings. This is just part of life experience. People in their 20’s who are starting out still have to save up a down payment to buy their first house and they probably took out a loan to buy a car. And probably have credit card debt.

So the fucker wants to see our budget to guide us financially on track when we’re in better financial shape than him?

In hindsight I know the Platinum wanted to see our budget to see how much wiggle room we had to buy Amway products and invest in tools when he saw the difference between our income and expenses. The real reason he was impressed was that we had no debt on our credit cards with about 100K available. That’s a lot of Amway products we can charge not to mention we had nothing holding us back from attending out of state functions. “Just charge it!” We have equity in our house so again the Platinum must have seen $$$ signs that we could get a line of credit against that equity if we needed. Oh and he must have loved decent 401k available that we could cash in to donate to the Amway cult.

While coming up with this post I looked at the revised budget I did after the Platinum meeting so he must have given me some Amway stuff to add in. Under PV there is $300 budgeted each month. (If you read previous posts you’ll know that Ambot purchased closer to $1000 each month for PV. What did I say about not following a budget????) This is under household where I have things like groceries, utilities, etc. Under (Amway) “business” expenses are 3 items (HA!): web page $50 (that would have actually been the WWDB Premier membership), Communikate $34, and samples $60, totalling $144/month in business expenses. Plus $300 personal shopping for PV = $444. That’s approximately what I said in the SaveFirst, Spend Later blog on a lowball monthly Amway investment. Add in functions and budget $700/month minimum. A little more than what the sack of shit had us put on the budget.

The budget was never referred to ever again. Kind of like the name list. Just produce one to show the Platinum that you have one and no need to bring it up again.

But did the Platinum give us any concrete advice on how much money to put into the Amway budget. During the first few months when he was “fired up” Ambot threw away close to $2000/month on various things having to do with Amway - buying products, buying tools, entertaining fucking assholes in the Amway upline, etc. After he hit the limit on that credit card the spending was reduced to around $500/month.

So much for the budget. If I was actually keeping one I’d have to add in a new column for paying back credit card debt thanks to Amway.

 

 

What Happens When You Don’t Pay Amway?

We have a lot of fun with search criteria that people use to show up at the marriedtoanambot blog.

One of the searchers wants to know “what happens when you don’t pay Amway”

First off not paying Amway is a very good thing because that means you aren’t getting scammed out of your money buying substandard products for a premium price.

Amway is only your friend as long as you shop in their store.

No shop. No friends no more!

I would say the answer is as simple as any online retailer you shop from. Don’t pay them and they won’t send you the goods you put in your shopping cart.

Also the same as the annual membership fee Amway charges you for the “privilege” gag gag of shopping in their store. Don’t pay your annual fee you don’t get to shop there. And some fat cat at Amway has a little less money in their bank account.

Costco is the same way. Don’t pay your annual membership fee and the bouncer standing at the door at Costco won’t let you in.

I would say its a very good thing when you don’t pay Amway. That means you quit doing business with them and you’re not getting ripped off anymore.

I encourage everyone not to pay Amway!