See An Amway Ambot Sales Pitch On Facebook

This is a condensed version of an online Amway sales pitch one of our readers sent in that took place on Facebook. The bananas were trying to decide whether to print it as one huge blog post or break it up into several posts stretched over 2 or 3 days. We decided it was better to leave it as one long script so the readers can see all the bullshit Amspeak propaganda in one place. Get ready for a big read today 10 minutes and its got some standard Amway lies and lines. These Amway bastards need to come up with some new bullshit! Also want to warn readers not to drink anything while reading this because you’ll be laughing at Ambot stupidity and you don’t want to spit up your drink all over your computer! LOL!

So – get ready. This is about the longest post on this blog.

An Amway Ambot posts a fake job ad and a sucker responds thinking there’s a legitimate job available and asks for more info.

Ambot begins the conversation mid January with the usual Amway thinly disguised bullshit instead of explaining more about what the “real job” is. SCAMMER!

Ambot: We are into e commerce business and currently looking for expanding our team and I thought you might be interested in it.

(3 weeks later a week into February.)

Prospect: I just now saw your response and I’m interested.

Ambot (typical arrogant Amway Ambot bitchy attitude): Wow it took you forever to respond. We will need you to give at least 4-10 hours of week. Will you be able to give?

By now the prospect has looked at this moron’s Facebook profile and sees he’s an Amway scammer. He searches on the Internet for more information and reads this blog and similar blogs about Scamway so he knows this is the Amway pyramid scheme and decides to have a little fun with the Amway fucker. They go back and forth for awhile about when and where to meet and then Prospect asks for the name of the company so he can do some research.

Ambot: How will you research?

Prospect: Google mostly.

Ambot: No worries, but remember people put all sorts of comments in it. It's like a toilet wall

Prospect: OK. So what’s it called?

Ambot: The company name is Amway. Watch "Amway Year in Review - 2014" on YouTube - Amway Year in Review – 2014. (and gives a link to a Youtube video that no one reading this blog gives a shit about so not included) This is 55 yo company with 10.8Bn turnover last year, Look into this link and you will know how big and Nobel it is

Prospect: Is this MLM?

Ambot: I think top 5 in Forbes list. What is MLM?

And seeing as how our friend has already done research explains MLM to doofus Amway Ambot. Then a couple of days later more conversation confirming time of meeting.

Prospect: for this meeting am I required to sign up on the spot or buy products?

Ambot: Absolutely Not, this is an obligation free presentation. But if it interests you, you can.

Prospect: OK. I’ll continue to do research.

Ambot: Sure, get all your doubts cleared. If you decide to continue it will help you in future. I am doing it successfully and I am among hundreds of people who are going to share how to win together. I don't want to spoil your excitement, really

Next day – the day of the “business meeting”

Prospect: Hey, so I talked with my partner about this and she says its not a worthwhile opportunity for me.

Ambot: No problem. I think you listen it out with an open mind and then take a decision.

Prospect: Points she made plus she did her own research. Also there is a lot more negative pieces on amway than positive.

Ambot: Just remember Google is a search engine not research engine

Prospect: I know you use a search engine to do research. A research engine would be a database of academic journal articles

LOL! So much for Amway Ambots going around screeching everyone else in the world is not educated. Dumb fuck Ambot doesn’t know his dick from his mama’s titty. LOL!

Then the Ambot gives the prospect a bunch of links to Youtube videos for him to watch titled:
Life+Style of Ganesh Shenoy
Ganesh's message for professionals
How people make Money in Amway
How can I do it?
System that teaches

A little later on…

Prospect: Hey only 2 videos work.

(LOL! Dumb fuck Ambots can’t get their act together. LOL!)

Ambot: Oops. Looks like they have been copy righted. For the videos that work try to access others. I mean just hear it out once with open mind. Don't worry to take decision. There are people like Ganesh helping us

Prospect: I heard the videos. Well the 2 that worked.

Ambot: Ok. It's a 10.8B company ready to share its profit and there are people who got success already trying to teach you. All is needed is learn and try to implement. Not a big deal.

Prospect: So duplicate what my (theoretical) upline does? (Anna Banana says LOL this Prospect has done his research!)

Ambot: I will tell you when we meet. You will be meeting my upline

Prospect: Wouldn’t it be easier to tell me now?

Ambot: Sorry. I’m in office (my full time job) and my boss is looking at me angrily.

(LOL Somehow I don’t think that boss is going to be a problem much longer. LOL!)

Prospect: Well you can tell me at 5 once you finish at your job right?

Ambot: Yes I will try. I will also be able to show you what my uplines do. We meet 3 times a week. Friday is one of that day. If free come and see us. It's open for all. It's near flinder street. Me and my entire team is willing to invest time and energy and money on you, just come and listen to us what we want to say. Bring your partner too, most welcome. Bring as many as people you want.

Prospect: so three times a week - and its compulsory

Ambot: Absolutely not (LIAR! LOL! If you don’t show up you’ll get a shit kicking from the sack of shit Platinum) You will do it by your own self, you will feel yourself excited to meet people. Man you should have come on Tuesday, you would have loved to hear what he said.

Prospect: What did he say roughly?

Ambot: Well, why should you do business? What is this opportunity? And how will you do it. Sorry I have to go. Meeting. I hate my boss that's why I want to be my own boss asap. (LOL this Amway fucker will never be his own boss but I bet he won’t have his current boss much longer LOL!)

Prospect: Why do you hate your boss?

Ambot: Simple reason, my income = boss's expense. That's why he hates me earning money from him. That's why I hate him he doesn't give me money.

(LOL! Ambots are full of hate. And they leave comments on this blog that we’re full of hate! LOL! Pot calling the kettle black. Ha ha!)

Prospect: Depends where your job is

Ambot: Do you have boss?

Prospect: yea

Ambot: Well you are lucky then that you got a good boss. Ask him for a salary raise.

Prospect: I do part time work and its union.

Ambot: Can you?

Prospect: Essentially the unions look after all that

Ambot: ok. See you later, sorry.

(Sometime later)

Ambot: Hi. I can call you now if you want

Prospect: Yea we can talk. How long have you been an IBO?

Ambot: What is your number?. I am very new too, about 2 months. But I could sponsor about 3 people so far.

Prospect: I am happy chatting here. So they are in your downline?

Ambot: Ok. Yes

Prospect: And have you made money?

Ambot: Basically my wife made them join.

Prospect: Okay, how did your wife make them join?

Ambot: Simple same way how I m talking to you. They all are enthusiastic people. It's a risk free part time opportunity, what else can you ask for. Yes I made money.

Prospect: By make money I mean a profit in your business.

Ambot: Yes. My investment is nearly zero in this business.

Prospect: Okay, and how is that?

Ambot: Well, you join with $25 plus the products. All products come 90 days 100% satisfaction gurantee. (Hey! What the hell happened to the 180 day guarantee that Amway cult leaders were shitting their pants bragging about?). If you can't continue or don't like product return it back. So the money which I invested is $25 which I covered in a weeks time.

Prospect: So people do actually buy these products?

Ambot: Does your salary increase 5 times in month? Yes and the products really work. 750+ world class products.

Prospect: Okay so your salary initially for Amway was?

Ambot: Salary?? It's a profit. At least 30 times than my investment. Recognition and moral boost and self confidence is all extra. What else do you want?

Prospect: Does your salary increase 5 times in month? - you said salary

Ambot: Your salary*

Prospect: But was is your initial profit then?

Ambot: My profit increased that much in a month

Prospect: So what dollar figure is it at now?

Ambot: My upline would be able to explain you more clearly. Enough to support my stuff like travelling to and talking to people

Prospect: But its your business shouldn't you know what you are making in profit?

Ambot: If I had not made money I had not talked to you that much. (Hunh? Amway Ambot gibberish comes out to throw off the prospect.)

Prospect: Even roughly?

Ambot: Will you tell your income details to an unknown person on facebook?

Prospect: Well I need some sort of proof

(At this point the Ambot posts one of those Amway charts designed to confuse the shit out of everyone with numbers and percentages and discounts and PV and holy shit my head is reeling.)

Prospect: So spend money for your own products and get discounts.

Ambot: Or sell it at retail price and make money.

Prospect: And these products are better/offer more value than what is at the supermarket?

Ambot: Yes.

Prospect: And an example?

Ambot: Tell me what did you find in your “research”?

Prospect: Well in all fairness a lot of negatives.

Ambot: Why example? I will show you demo. Amway is supposed to be word of mouth business. There are at least 10 ways in which you can earn money in it.

Prospect: So recruiting. Getting people to go to meetings? Product sales.

Ambot: :D

Prospect: What are the major ones?

Ambot: The meeting is free of cost.

Prospect: Annual conference?

Ambot: Conference costed $20. I am explaining too many things on chat which is not going to work with my experience. You should be able to understand that whole business plan cannot be explained just like that. I think you believe the unknown people comments on Google more than meeting real successful people, isn't it? Do you still want to meet? I have put my upline on hold for you. Should I tell him to cancel?

Prospect: Yea. I have decided not to. Best of luck with all the Amway stuff

Ambot: You are declining an opportunity to earn 3k to 4k from home working in part time.

Prospect: Its okay. I’m set in where I want to go career wise

Ambot:  Can I add you as my friend on my page?

Prospect: I guess if you want. Don’t think any of my friends will join Amway.

Ambot:  No I don't want to, generally I add my customers there, but I will add you as my ibo there. I don't want to ask your friends. Anyways if any of your friend is interested in buying iPhone 6 or 6 plus ask them to contact me please. I can get a nice discount from Amway. If you get any of your friend I can give you $10 per reference if they buy phone connection.

A few days go past.

Ambot: Good morning. Are you interested in a party?

(This is followed with a poster showing XS energy drinks throwing a party and tickets are limited and hurry up and buy your ticket. Probably not the type of party the prospect was thinking about but Ambots do this sort of shit to trick prospects into meetings.)

Ambot: This is one of our largest selling product - energy drink. You will meet people and also learn about product.

(Then another poster listing all the XS flavors and comparing them to Red Bull.)

Ambot: This is the comparison with market products like red bull. Look at the sugar level. Let me know ASAP tickets are selling very fast.

(Anna Banana says maybe if XS put more sugar in their energy drink it wouldn’t taste like cat piss! LOL!)

Prospect: Is the drink called XS?

Ambot: Yes. Do you know about it?

Prospect: Amway research.

Ambot: Ok, so what did you find out about it? Good or bad?

Prospect: Both

Ambot: Have you ever tried it? $2.50 per can only.

(Anna Banana points out the ambot is neglecting to mention the cans aren’t sold singularly – you got to buy a case for $25? $30? Higher? – YECH!)

Prospect: I don’t like those drinks.

Ambot: Ok. XS was one of the suppliers for Amway, this year they bought the whole company. That's why this party. (Or was it bankruptcy restructuring for Duncan and he was forced to sell?)

Prospect: So it's about $10 a ticket

Ambot: Yes $24 if you block 4.

Prospect: No thanks.

(A couple more weeks go by and Prospect has posted on his Facebook page: Asked who gets rich from your job on a Facebook status – As a teacher who wants to work with disadvantaged kids I asked him who gets rich from teaching)

Ambot: Hahaha, looking your comment now. Before answering let me ask you one question, Do you think teaching is a job?

Prospect: It's a profession. But others will consider it a job

Ambot: You gave the answer by yourself. A good teacher will never think he is doing a job for money. He is not in teaching business he is in teaching line, changing lives. But anyways, even in my case I am learning everyday with my "teachers" in business. Anyways, see you later (Can you please delete your reply on my post? It's confusing others)

(Prospect didn’t delete the comment)

(A couple of months go by)

Ambot: Hi, how are you doing?

Prospect: I’m doing good. How have you been?

Ambot: Doing great. Do you shop groceries online, by any chance? Do you want to know some good deals from Amway?

Prospect: I will listen

Ambot: Lol, please don't mind it

Prospect: Huh?

Ambot: Go to site (and here he gives Amway’s website and his Amway ID to login) Check the deals and costs they offering.

Prospect: Is this at retail or cost price?

Ambot: Actual price. None of them are Amway products so all of them are cost price

Prospect: So wholesale

Ambot: Yes. It was only for IBOs. it is*

(Hunh – did anyone know what the Ambot means with the * ?)

Prospect: I will look through it later. Busy now.

Ambot: They have extended it for VIP clients. These are new partner stores recently added in North America. It's FREE registration, let's chat later then.

(About 5 months later)

Ambot: Happy Birthday!

Prospect: Thanks J smile emoticon

(About 2 months later our Prospect decides to have a little fun with the ambot)

Prospect: Hey I was wondering if you were still doing Amway.

Ambot: Yes I am. Anything I can help you with?

Prospect: I just found an ebook online that I think you may find interesting.

Ambot: OK

Prospect:  *interesting http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/files/MerchantsOfDeception.pdf Feel free to thumb through it when you get the chance.

Ambot: Ok I can guess what inside it from the title.

Prospect: I have read through it. Yes there is probably an over exaggeration in the contents but it is an interesting read and since its related to Amway I thought you should thumb through it to get your opinion on it and so on.

Ambot: Well I can say one thing Amway business is easy but not simple. Hope you get it.

Prospect: Easy to join, easy to build?

Ambot: Yes sure I will read and let yoh know. Easy to build and share but not simple to sustain and see through people's rejections and their silly objections. How many stores have you seen closed even during global recession times? Year 2008-2009

(Jesus Christ those fucking Ambots sure go back aways to pull their statistics! LOL! And they go back even further than that – decades sometimes – dumb fuck Amway losers! LOL!)

Prospect: From my local area, none. In fact there was growth.

Ambot: Search for amway yearly growth and compare for year 2008-09 figures. It was supposed to be recession time, but the firm grew by 17%. I can agree one or few persons can be wrong but not billions of people. Anyways, talk to you later. I will let you know my comments.

Prospect: Quick point on the 17% growth - that is a nice number if you are an investor.

Ambot: Yes I am not Amway customer I am Amway partner, an investor. (Anna Banana says LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!) The number is because of people like me.

(Hey wait a minute! Didn’t that dumb fuck Ambot say at the beginning he’s only been in Scamway 2 months? Fucking Ambots can’t do math! LOL! Someone in 2015 who’s only been in “the business” for 2 months wasn’t around in 2008-2009 when that supposed 17% growth was going on no matter how much they bullshit about it – what the fuck’s up with that anyway!!!????)

Prospect: So as an investor you see a share of that 17% growth. I thought you were an IBO.

Ambot: Yes IBO is Independent Business Owner, a partner in Amway business. (Anna Banana again says LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!) Lets meet some time I will show you the plan. Its different than traditional business.

Prospect: okay, I will see when I am free.

Ambot: Lmao, 318 pages. Sorry I cannot read, its a lot. Dont have time to waste on silly things. Answer my one genuine question - If not Amway what option do you have?

Prospect: What do you mean by that question? In more detail.

Ambot: If you want to earn 250K per year, what options do you use?

Prospect: I would start off with investment properties that get rental yields.

Ambot: $250,000

Prospect: Start with one and build up. Then there is shares.

Ambot: Cool, how much money do you plan to invest?

Prospect: So you are on the I quadrant shares start small with $5000 and I remain in the I quadrant. For investment property I would say a deposit of 50k if not more.

Ambot: Hmm. Risk factor after investing so much?

Prospect: Everything in life has risk. From getting on the train to investment properties to stocks ect

Ambot: What can I say, all the best with that. Because I am not investing even 1% of that amount and have a potential of making 250K.

Prospect: But do you own your own business? My understanding is of Amway is that you can be cut off.

Ambot: Yes I own my business. Amway is just a supplier.

Prospect: So that means you would do quartley statements and alike. Plus taxes for your business that are seperate from personal taxes.

Ambot: Thats the thing, you should try to believe it. Amway works for me, takes care of my accounts, products, warehouse, logistics, technology, staff. (Anna Banana again says LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!) 

Prospect: Try to believe what exactly?

Ambot: There is a 90 day trial period with Amway. Try Amway.

Prospect: If I try, can I see an income statement, cash flow statement or a balance sheet?

Ambot: Come tomorrow for meeting, I will make you meet real people making at least $3000 per month with Free international 5 star hotel trips.

Prospect: I have personal tutoring tomorrow.

Ambot: At 7:15pm? (Anna Banana says – get a clue Ambot! This is called the brush off! LOL!)

Prospect: Yea. Exams are coming up.

Ambot: ok. Lets plan on Friday. Where do you live?

Prospect: No way known I would set a bad example for students. Noble park but I’m busy on Friday.

Ambot: Ok. Yes teaching is your passion and we call it as Plan A. Amway is your Plan B. (Holy fuck Ambot! Did you see that interview with one of the Amway owners, I think it was VanAndel who said they don’t want Ambots referring to Plan B? Yet another Ambot gives the big old fuck you to their boss.) We dont recommend to stop/ cause problems to Plan A for Plan B. This is how it works. I can show you the plan, but I want you to meet real people. Ask them how much is their income. Infact there is a huge function happening in mid Oct. Millionaires from all over world coming. (And there’s another Youtube link to watch a bunch of dumb fuck Amway losers)

Prospect: Are you part of Britt worldwide? Also with the book not saying read the lot but do thumb through it. It made me think about how people mention negative thinking.

(It takes the Ambot a couple of days to respond. Perhaps he counselled with the assholes in his Amway upline on how best to trick this prospect to come to a meeting.)

Ambot: Yes I am part of Bill Britt World Wide, its called BWW. I cant read through that fast. Infact I am reading motivational books like The magic of thinking big, How I raised myself from failure to success in selling, acers of diamonds etc. I am pretty sure these books will enlighten more.

(And then the Ambot posts a photo of some of the books he purchased through the Amway tool scam. Anyone who’s been in the Amway cult will recognize the titles.)

Prospect: I will make a note just thinking of friends in other mlms who have lost a fair bit due to positive thinking.

Ambot: Sure!! There might be something they did wrong or they didn't get good mentor. (More proof Amway is a blame the victim scam!) Otherwise according to me it's impossible. Things are going to happen but why to see it negatively which will attract the negative things which you don't want.

Prospect: Less than 1% of MLMs are profitable according to the FTC.

Ambot: Hmm it might be in case of Mlms. But not in Amway . Amway is not a MLM. (What the fuck!!! Does Amway know this? LOL!!!!) If you want more info we can meet.

Prospect: When I am free. Also amway is direct selling which is another name for MLM.

Ambot: Of course .Which days are you free weekdays or weekends?

(Basically never. Prospect reels off what he does every day of the week. Busy schedule.)

Ambot: Ok then if you want we can meet on this Sunday. Will Fix a tentative time & place.

Prospect: I’m not sacrificing partner time for this. Thats what happened to a friend of mine. He is now divorced since he joined in MLM or Direct Selling or became an IBO.

Ambot: Great!! That's what I also want to do . (What the fuck does this mean? Get divorced due to Amway?) I don't want to go in argument but by the bww system me & my partner have more strong relations. (Anna Banana again says LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!)

Prospect: So Amway or your BWW help your relationship?

Ambot: Everybody's thinking is different . In ways in future if you make your mind to see this opportunity you are welcome.

Prospect: I’m just trying to get a very basic grasp on Amway that syncs with what I have read vs. what you have told me

Ambot: My relation with my partner is strong from day 1st but it has more stronger from bww system not by Amway . Amway is working for me as a supplier, accountant , etc. Will talk to you in the evening. Going in a meeting . Have a nice day !!

Prospect: Have fun. Hope your boss is nice to you

(A couple of days later the conversation resumes)

Ambot: Lmao. I see my boss everyday in mirror, he is very nice ;) Looks like your schedule is very busy, let me know when you want to make serious money. Meanwhile, do you know anyone looking for weight management? Our suppliers Nutriway has launched one great product called BodyKey, please share this flyer. (The ambot posts a picture of the flyer and his phone #)

Prospect: Does body key being scientifically proven with human clinical trials? Also I meant the boss at your job which you hate. Not sure why though.

Ambot: Yes, absolutely. 900 scientists have worked on it.

Prospect: So do you or your Amway team have proof of these clinical trials. A hundred accountants can work on a report - doesn't mean it is legit.

Ambot: http://mybodykey.us/ (left the link in because apparently Scamway has once again changed the name of its weight loss program to confuse people. Memo to bananas: have to update and rerun that post again) All products come with 90 days 100% satisfaction guarantee! If you are not happy with anything just return it and you will get your money back. Entire money back.

Prospect: Okay... So clinical testing...

Ambot: Absolutely, let me find the info (Ambot throws in link to an Amway page that breaks down the product but offers no clinical testing results from 900 scientists). Let me find some more info, as bodykey is a program and it comes with many customised solutions depending on your body type.The Supplier Amway has established a health clinic where we can go and get all your answers.

Prospect: I dont need any of that. So nutrilite is the product.

Ambot: No worries, if you know anyone looking for, Nutrilite is 80 year old company who invented multi vitamin concept. So nutrilite is brand name and one of my suppliers.

Prospect: So do their products have clinical trials that prove their legitimacy

Ambot: Yes. If not I will be millionaire by sueing them. (Next to marrying an Amway heir that might be the only other way to become an Amway millionaire.)

Prospect: Okay I will see if I can find them

(A few days later)

Prospect: Found no independent clinical trials

And that’s the end of the script. The Ambot couldn’t back up his lie about the 900 scientists and dropped out of sight. The life of an Amway Ambot: lie, deny, distract, and defend…. and then disappear. Maybe the lying scamming bastard will resurface again on Facebook. Fucking Amway loser!

 

 

Who’d Have Thought? A Roomful Of Winners

At the Amway meetings I attended everyone was constantly reaffirmed (brainwashed) they were a “winner”. A winner simply by showing up! I was sitting in a roomful of winners! Wow!

Gag!!!!

I was always under the (false?) impression that a winner was a person who wins. Based on my definition I bet I was probably the biggest winner in the room. I was 18 when I won my first prize - a cake in a cakewalk! A cake decorated in jelly beans! And I’ve never looked back. I’ve won countless small prizes in raffles and radio and TV contests like books, concert tickets, and Starbuck’s gift cards. I’ve won cash several times on radio contests over the years. I’ve even won some trips. I look at my good luck because of the way I treat others well, donate to charities, and not being involved in illegal or criminal activities. Do a good deed every day! Random acts of kindness to strangers. There’s an old saying about how good things happen to good people.

Now I just gotta hope that the saying about the good die young – don’t!!!!

I’d say I have a better track record than the rest of the room when it comes to being a winner. I’ve made more money on contests than I ever did in Amway! With no money invested. Just a little time. Not even 10 to 15 hours a week!

Everyone else in the room is a “winner” just because they showed up wearing a business suit.

Oh I get it! The winner is the person who catches the most prospects! The prize is the adoring affection of the sack of shit Platinum.

No that can’t be right. The winners in this room rarely brought prospects. No adoring affection for any of them. Instead everyone was on the receiving end of the Platinum’s scorn.

The real winners? Those of us who said: “Fuck you Amway. I’m outta here.”

Whatever happened to that roomful of “winners”? Are they winning or are they losing?

Most of those “winners” are still hanging in there losing their money and losing their downline. The rest of the winners hopped on the fuck you Amway bandwagon.

 

“I’m Not In Amway” Lies The Ambot

How do you know when someone in Amway is lying? Their mouth is moving. Or if it’s the Internet – when they’re typing something.

Why do lying scamming Amway assholes show up on a site that’s all about making fun of Amway losers and try to convince us they’re not in Amway?

Really I don’t give a shit one way or another if someone reading this blog is in Amway but I do know from our time inside the cult that we had to deny any involvement with Amway and that’s still taught today. Amway has such a bad reputation that everyone knows it’s a scam. Well maybe not those young enough who haven’t heard of it before but maybe they should ask their parents or grandparents. Except they’re not allowed to say the “A” word.

Now how do I know when someone says they’re not in Amway and they’re really NOT in Amway. Usually it’s a wife or girlfriend who shows up and says she’s not in Scamway but her husband/boyfriend is and the fucking assholes in his upline are making her life hell and they’re broke all the time because he’s always buying shitty overpriced Amway products. Or it’ll be another family member or a friend who has a similar story – the Amway cult follower has turned into a mean nasty son of a bitch all through his worship of the Great Amway God. Sometimes it’ll be someone who says they went to an Amway cult meeting and HOLY SHIT did they dodge a bullet and are staying away from those Ambot bastards and they’re here to share their story. Occasionally readers leave comments that they used to be in Amway, some from as far back as the 70’s, and sometimes they search it online and they share the story of the lies they heard and the money they lost.

There’s no reason to doubt any of these type of stories from people who say they’re not in Amway.

It’s the ones who show up and say they’re not in Amway but they’re studying it and decide it’s a great opportunity LOL!!!! Or they’re “not in Amway” but randomly end up at an old post after searching for more information on Amway Spring Leadership or WWDB Family Reunion and leave a comment saying they’re not in Amway, spout off a bunch of canned Amspeak propaganda the same bullshit the assholes in our Amway upline were spouting off many years ago and then they insult us. The usual Amspeak screechings and bitchings about how we didn’t try hard enough or the system works if you’re a winner.

Here’s the scoop when someone who isn’t in Amway but has a friend/family member in the scam they’re looking for support, they’re sharing the evil that has invaded their life. They’re unhappy especially if it’s their husband and he’s draining their bank account and running up the credit card. Someone with a loved one in Amway isn’t stopping by to say they’ve looked at “the business” and then gush all their loving and then they spout off a bunch of canned Amspeak bullshit and accuse everyone at this blog of being a negative unchristian dreamstealer who’s a quitter who didn’t try hard enough and who will be dead or broke by age 65.

People who are not in Amway usually have heartwrenching stories to share or entertaining stories about how they figured out Amway was a scam and they’re not getting conned.

It’s like if you work at McDonald’s but you don’t want to tell someone you work there cause you’re embarrassed. If you’re going to deny it you better not be wearing a McDonald’s uniform and eating a Big Mac.

Why show up here and leave a comment denying being in Amway when it’s pretty clear you are? Just don’t leave a comment at all. But I suppose you got to get your practice at lying in somewhere. If your Amway lies ain’t getting you nowhere here those lies ain’t going to work anywhere else you try them.

Next time try finding a job where you’re not embarrassed to work there and don’t have to lie about it.

 

 

Amway Losers Love Making Assholes Out Of Themselves

You got to be a good liar to be in Amway and Ambots show up here to tell whoppers but not really all that much more different than the lies I heard at Amway meetings. On a website that is dedicated to making losers in Amway look like a bunch of assholes it’s just incredible how these Ambots flock here to further prove that they’re assholes. Just when you think you got all the proof you need that people in Amway are a bunch of fucking assholes another loser shows up to make sure we know he’s an Amway asshole too! LOL!

There's the scam Amway Ambots lie about how the owners of the BBB and the owners of Amway are involved in a big orgy fuck fest and the BBB endorses Amway and all the other bullshit lies they come up with. Anyone can read the BBB page and see they're a 3^rd party service to help with customer/business complaints and they stay impartial and don't endorse any business. The fact that Amway has to hire a small army of staff to respond to BBB complaints before the time’s up deadline and the fact that Amway's terms and conditions threaten termination to any IBO who brags about any imagined affiliation the BBB and Amway has means nothing to Ambots. They show up here bragging about how the BBB and Amway are in bed together. Now we all know that if Amway actually followed their own rules and fired IBO's bragging about the BBB then they'd have no one left to buy their shitty overpriced Amway products.

The lies about the compensation to be made in Amway continue to the extent of some lying scamming Amway bastards showing up here to brag about how they're retired at age 20 thanks to the bazillions of dollars rolling in every month from Amway while they sit back and do nothing and how rich they got after being in Amway a few months. I've even had a couple of lying scamming Amway losers claim to be triple executive Diamonds show up here and try to bullshit us. Theo being the most entertaining claiming to make $400,000/year from Scamway and he bought all kinds of chain restaurants, gas stations, and hotels on that Amway income. The other triple executive Diamond was anonymous and rolled off 2 insulting sneering typo filled comments before remembering his “title” and the 3^rd comment he claimed that he was a triple executive Diamond. Here's the scoop you dumb fucks. Anyone who's reached that level in Amway is too busy trying to scam other people in real life instead of searching for  information on the Internet about the upcoming Amway function. The big wigs already got that memo from head office!

Then there's the losers who believe the lying scamming Amway cult leaders that Artistry cosmetics is #2 in the world LOL! Thanks to a survey company in Europe that no one on this side of the ocean has ever heard about where companies buy their position on that poll. The reality is Artistry isn't even in the top 50 retail sellers of cosmetics, though they were a few years ago, but never at the top of the list.

Then there’s the fucking Amway loser who leaves a comment on the post about the world’s top cosmetic companies. That post is an ambot magnet. Every fucking Amway loser around shows up to screech and bitch on that post. This Ambot demands to know the name of the European marketing company that Amway uses to put themselves at #2 on prestige cosmetics and wants to know what proof I have Amway pays this marketing company. Well I have no proof. For all I know Amway is stiffing them on the bill. But it seems unlikely that if a client ain’t paying their bill then the marketing firm won’t list them as a client on their web page. The last Ambot who left a comment on this topic right on top of this other Amway loser’s comment even put a link in for Euromonitor and their Amway client page. LOL! This fucking Amway loser can’t even read the last comment ahead of his and get the information he’s looking for! LOL! Like we need further proof people in Amway are a bunch of dumb fucks! LOL!

And then we had a couple of fucking Amway assholes stopping by to brag that Amway made 12 billion in sales. Seeing as how Amway's income has been sliding by a billion or more a year for the past few years and then like all lying scamming Amway assholes do they throw around a bunch of numbers to try to confuse everyone and claim they can’t find no interviews with Amway owners talking about last year’s losses even when readers to this blog even provided the link. But what else do you expect from fucking Amway losers. They’re taught by their cult leaders not to trust outside sources and to only believe and worship the Amway cult leaders. Still doesn't stop those Ambots from bragging about how much money Amway makes. And really why the fuck do they think we care how much money Amway makes or is losing over the past couple of years? That’s good news or lately bad news for the people who own Amway but to everyone else who doesn’t have a financial interest who the fuck cares? It’s like what are the cost of Facebook shares? It might be slightly interesting because Facebook is a popular company and the price of their shares has increased 400% from where they started on opening day, who remembers those shares sinking immediately but now they’re doing good. Good news for people who bought lots of stock when it was low but unless you play the stock market who gives a shit how much Facebook is worth, other than the owner of course. 

And lets not forget the dumb fuck Amway Ambot from India who claims former President George Bush is now an Amway salesman! LOL! And the White House is eagerly buying up overpriced shitty Amway products so he can make a skimpy commission. Maybe they can get away with that bullshit in 3^rd world countries where news and current affairs is hard to come by. Around this blog it just further proves that Amway Ambots are liars and scammers and gives us something to laugh about.

What about South Carolina’s Amway Masturbator who jacks off into SA8 soap. Thanks to gadgets or widgets or plugins or whatever they're called his comments go right to spam. Took awhile for that widget to learn the masturbator's pattern and now that motherfucker is posting from Atlanta, Georgia. Any system isn't foolproof so it's possible the occasional comment gets through. Having a weird sex fetish is one thing but showing up on a website that is all about making fun of Amway assholes and bragging about poking your dick into soap is just fucking stupid. Talk about LOVING your fucking Amway soap. And then he claims he made a sale of SA8 and delivered the soap to the woman’s house and then uh lets just say gave her a demonstration and claims she enjoyed it. I don’t know about the rest of you ladies but I don’t want any Amway loser or any other son of a bitch in Amway or not giving me a demonstration of masturbating into my laundry soap. And the Amway Masturbator found the one woman in the whole world who actually enjoyed watching that? Unlikely. Another fucking Amway liar. And fucking in more ways that one seeing as how he lives to fuck the Amway soap.

And let’s not forget all the Ambots who show up here screeching at us to do our research. It’s like fuck you. Our real life experiences at buying and using Amway products, sitting through countless Amway board plans, and going to Amway functions and listening to all the lies and bullshit from the Amway cult leaders isn’t research. Like what more fucking research do these Amway losers want than our real life experiences? And speaking of doing your research they can’t even take their own fucking advice because obviously none of those Amway losers did their research or they wouldn’t have jumped on the Amway bandwagon when there’s over 99% failure rate. Only a tiny fraction of 1% of IBO’s make money. Most people who do research would look for better opportunities than 99%+ failure rate. So right back at you you fucking Amway losers – do your research!

Let’s just send out another big old FUCK YOU to Amway and their commissioned sales force who feel compelled to show up at this blog and make assholes out of themselves.

Fuck all of you!

 

Amway Ambots On A Mission To Find People Who Want To Save Money

“We want to show you how to save money buying from your own shop and then you find other people who want to save money and teach them how to set up their own shops so they can save money too.”

I heard that phrase many times - or similar wording - at every Amway meeting I attended.

The statement sounds reasonable enough. Shop from your own store and save money buying products that you would purchase anyway. Yeah, sounds good. Everyone wants to save money and get good deals on products they regularly purchase.

The problem is our upline bullied Ambot into changing his spending habits to buy shit that we never bought before, that I didn’t like, and often we didn’t end up using. He didn’t save money because he spent way more money than if he’d purchased comparable products at the grocery and drug store. And we ended up wasting money by throwing out a bunch of useless, shitty Amway products.

How is that saving us money? We’re spending hundreds of dollars a month on Amway products that we’ve never had on our shopping list. Energy drinks, food bars, bottled water, and vitamins to mention a few.

I don’t consider myself an avid shopper but I hit the drug stores and grocery stores enough times that I have a good idea of prices and quality and good value.

Ambot does not. Oh he might spot a good deal and stock up on the item but for the most part he doesn’t know how much things cost at the store.

He blindly accepted the upline’s (bad) advice that Amway’s products would save us money and these items were better quality than what could be purchased at the local retailers and that he should buy, buy, buy! He MUST be his own best customer. Including himself and a few occasional pity purchasers his customer base was five.

Because of the upline’s influence over Ambot being  his own best customer I got stuck using inferior products that did not save us money.

The real damage with the “save money” by shopping at your own store philosophy is IBO’s like Ambot do not do price comparisons with other retailers and overspend by buying stuff that they normally would not have purchased.

I know how to save money when I’m shopping. Its by having a good idea of what the prices are of groceries and sundries that I regularly purchase at the grocery and drug stores and recognizing when something is on sale at a decent enough price to buy it. Then I watch the flyers and when I see something on sale that I regularly purchase I stock up. If I see something in the flyer that’s a good price but its not something I need - I don’t buy it. See? Saving money?

I save a lot of money now that we don’t have to buy shitty overpriced Amway products.

 

An Amkid Talks About Life With Amway Ambot Parents

Amway fucks up another family. An Amkid remembers life in the Amway cult from 3 decades ago. Thanks for the insight into how kids understand how Amway destroys lives:

 

Recently some very close friends got “into the business”, and it has forced me to revisit how I feel about Amway and its impact on my childhood.

A profound sadness has hung over me since our friends told us they were considering a particular organization (which was not Amway, of course, eye roll, it is WWDB). I knew right then we were going to lose them as friends. This man has been my husband’s closest friend since high school. They have been through a ton together, and losing them is really devastating for us.

I carefully reminded them that I was an Amway kid (an Amkid?) and asked them if they wanted my perspective on growing up in Amway. I told them once and promised to support them thereafter. I knew if they didn’t hear that we are willing to support them, I would be cutting off our relationship right then and there. Nice baggage, huh.

My parents are ‘lifers’. They’ve been in since I was 8. That was 38 years ago. They had two deep teams that generated some income until they fell apart, probably 25-30 years ago.

My childhood was weirder than I realized.

-Annoyed neighbors. Weekly Tuesday night ‘product pickup’ which filled the street with the team coming to pick up their products. Weekly ‘team calling’ every Sunday night when all my Dad’s buddies would come over to call random people they had met at the grocery store, and shout ‘Loser’ or ‘Sap’ (what the heck is that anyway?) every time they got turned down. Those guys were loud down in the basement while my siblings and I were upstairs doing homework and preparing for the school week.

- Tools. Dumb, dumb tapes and books. I had NO IDEA that they were so expensive until I started reading about AmCult recently. Seriously, I thought upline was giving that stuff to my Dad. I hope my kids don’t think NPR is as annoying as I thought those tapes were.

- Negative wives. We heard all about these negative women, and how my mom struggled because she knew she was viewed as one. She is very introverted and not peppy enough. Yet she slaved over the weekly product order, product pick up, and angelically dealt with my Dad never being home. I tell you, I would be the negativest of negative wives ever.

- Functions. Gee, I wonder why we never took any family vacations? Because my parents had to go to 4 functions every year. They took us 1 time that I can remember, because some upline approved kids coming to a beach trip. A commenter above described it perfectly...we sat in the hotel room with a 13 year old babysitter watching R rated movies. The other times, my parents left us with babysitters that we didn’t really know or feel comfortable with. I am thankful that I never suffered any abuse other than neglect in any of these situations, and I hope my siblings were also safe.

- Lost friends. I bet my parents could have let us stay at friends’ houses for all those functions instead of getting weird babysitters, but they had alienated all their/our friends soon after getting into Amway. New friends were always business colleagues, and of course they came and went.

- Oh my word, stop. talking. to. everyone. My Dad would talk to everyone, everywhere. He is an extravert so he would probably have done that anyway, but I HATED knowing his friendliness was ultimately not genuine, at least I did not believe it could be. I would shuffle off and try to hide. It was always the same conversation with the same lead ins.

- Faith. After they started Amway, my parents drew away from church involvement and let Amway replace church for them. That’s something I have not seen much mention of in blogs, and it may be specific to LTD, Britt, or just the South. But in Amway, it was trendy to be a Christian, and all the functions had church services where droves of people would accept Christ like they had just been listening to Billy Graham. This made my Dad very excited, and I get why, but the lines were blurred between business and religion and it was about control, not about following the most humble man who ever walked the earth. As children, we lost connection with families from church that I, particularly, had grown up with. My parents had no more time for Bible studies or service projects, so we didn’t get to go either.

- Health. My Dad’s health suffered big time. He was a tall thin man who enjoyed working around the house before Amway. Then, then he became a man who constantly attended midnight meetings at IHOP, probably slept about 5 hours a night on average, and got fat. He has never lost all that weight, but he knows he can count on Nutri-lite vitamins to keep him going. That might have worked in his 40’s but he is in his late 60’s now and I am very worried about him.

-Time. I suppose my Dad would have spent more time with us if he had been home in the evenings. Ultimately, I don’t think he was a bad as some people probably were, as I have never questioned his love and commitment. I’m not sure what I missed, but I was a very compliant child overall, and as a teenager I tasted a little freedom and normalcy and began to rebel and put as much emotional distance as I could between myself and my parents. It would not be until I had children that I truly wanted to be around them again.

These days, my parents are still trying to build their business, while they also work their annoying J.O.B.s (as an engineer and teacher). The only irritation for me is planning visits around functions. That really, really annoys me. I can’t see why they can’t see that their business has failed.

Our friends who have been sucked into Amway have presented the ‘plan’ to all of our mutual friends. One couple went through most of the process and went to several meetings (in another city, mind you, because we do not have an open meeting here). An upline told my pregnant friend, “This is the perfect time for you to start building your business, when you kids are babies. They won’t even remember you being gone!” I wanted to vomit when I heard that. Thankfully this couple decided to run the other way.

WWDB World Wide Dream Builders Amway Family Reunion 2026

Brainwashed Amway cult followers are frantically looking for information on Family Reunion so let’s get this post up to the top of Google searches to reel ‘em in!

Calling the Amway WWDB function “family reunion” is very cultish. Its how the Amway cult leaders brainwash the followers into believing that their Amway family is their real family now. Many people join cults because they don’t have a good family and they’re desperate to join a family that will welcome them with open arms. Cults prey on these people. They prey on those who have good relationships with their family too. They’re an equal opportunity cult! The Amway cult works hard at separating their followers from family members who are negative to “the business”. Separate and divide. We’re your new family now. And we’re throwing a big family reunion. You must attend. You will be love bombed all weekend. You won’t believe the love you’ll get from your new Amway family. This is how you show your loyalty to your cult leaders. Family reunion is for serious business builders. If you don’t come to Family Reunion we’ll know you’re not a serious business builder and we won’t work with you.

And the bullshit goes on. All good little brainwashed IBO’s must attend Family Reunion.

If anyone knows the new login and password for the WWDB website let us know so we can get the dates, location, and theme out there and make fun of it. Those Amway motherfuckers changed their guest log in. Cults are very secretive that way. Can’t let the infidels find out where they’ll be.

Thanks to one of our readers a few years ago we found out that an Amway Family Reunion booked the Spokane Arena in Washington one August. Not July.

I checked the convention center because Amway has held cult meetings there in the past. I found “Duncan Event” in July with nothing else in the description. But I mean it is pretty fucking embarrassing to admit you have anything to do with Amway. I’m getting tired of trying to track down where these top secret Amway cult meetings are being held but one thing we know is they’re being held in smaller places. That may not have an online calendar for all to see. The Amway cult leaders have had to downsize from arenas and school auditoriums to smaller spaces because of the declining attendance at ScAmway functions.

There is no way of knowing the top secret agenda for what will happen at this year’s Amway Family Reunion but here’s what was on topic a few years ago at WWDB Amway Family Reunion and its probably still the main theme:

BELIEVE

Yes in big capital letters. World Wide Dream Builders are SCREAMING at us! So what the fuck we’re supposed to believe?

Apparently if you believe your business will flourish and grow - it will.

Well holy shit! That was the secret all along. All you have to do is BELIEVE. None of this stalking recruits or selling overpriced Amway shit. All you gotta do is BELIEVE!

Nothing else!

OK we don’t want to get accused of infringing copyright laws by copying and pasting so I’ll paraphrase the bullshit from the WWDB web page. If you attend Amway Family Reunion you will be inspired to BELIEVE you can build an Amway business. You will be motivated to use your talents to help others BELIEVE.

Sounds like a bunch of brainwashed cult bullshit to me. But this Family Reunion claims to offer something that has never been heard of before at any prior Family Reunion. Apparently there will be sales, product, and technology training.

Ha! Unlikely! Family Reunion consists of an endless march of Ken and Barbie Ambots strutting across the stage in evening gowns and tuxedos bragging about their wealth.

What does it cost to attend WWDB Amway Family Reunion. Last we heard tickets were $560/couple so say around the same price this year. I recorded $850 for other costs for this bullshit event - hotel, food, travel. So ballpark it around $1500 for a couple. The sky is the limit depending on air travel and hotel and food costs.

Shit - got an email on a Mexican cruise for $599 and that’s a week worth of hotel, food, and accommodation. And much more fun holiday for 2 people all for less than the price of wasting time, money, and brain cells at Amway Family Reunion.

But the ambots will come in droves, whipped on by their cult leaders.

WWDB Amway Family Reunion sucks!

Fuck Amway!

Fuck WWDB World Wide Dream Builders.

Fuck those World Wide Destructive Bastards!