Hey Ambot! What’s In Your Garage?

I saw a poston Amthrax about a lot of Xango boxes stacked in the garage. There was no room to park a car in there though the fellow still managed to cram his motorbike in - a quick shot of it while the camera pans the garage. Edited to add – since this post first appeared the video is no longer able to be seen.

Just about everywhere a lot of people have their garages packed full of storage items so there is no room to park a car in there. Absolutely crazy. Unless this is only a temporary residence -  downsize! Ask most people what the purpose of a garage is and they’ll say its a place to park the car. Not a storage unit.

Our Platinum had a regular sized house with a 2 car garage. His cars were parked in the driveway. I went inside their garage. There were a lot of Amway boxes in there but not so much that a car or two couldn’t be parked inside if they shoved those boxes against the wall and stacked them. I’m not sure if this was personal consumption or sales but I suspect most of it was given out as samples, and here I’m talking XS Energy Drinks and Perfect Water. Remember our Platinum was screwing over Amway by getting free sample cases because he’d call in to say his customer didn’t like the product and they’d send him a replacement. That kept him in drinks and to give out samples.

The real reason cars could not be parked in here were because of all the tables. You’d think this place was a boutique run by the Ambot Addams Family. Even in the dim light we could see every table held Amway products and practically one of everything that was sold in the catalogue. Every type of Artistry makeup on one table. Skin care on another table. Nutrilite on another table. Food bars and drinks on another table. Cleaning products on another table. And so on. A rough estimate is 12  to 15 card tables. It would be kind of fun driving a car in there and busting some of that damn Amway shit!

I’m not really sure why they had the garage set out this way. Its not like there were just exclusive Amway products on show. They had other things stored in the garage like sporting equipment, car products, and tools. We’re not talking ambience here. If this was supposed to be set up like a store where customers come in to look over the products and then place an order, the Platinum didn’t say anything to us about that. In fact they didn’t say much of anything. Just herded us all in there to take a look - had to be about 30 or 40 IBO’s there that day - and we had to squeeze inbetween people and laden tables. This is worse than hitting an electronics shop on Black Friday! Everyone just hung out talking because no one could move being packed in like sardines. And then after the Platinum decided we’d done enough oohing and ahhing and worshipping of his Amway store, we went back inside the house for the Amway meeting.

One time Ambot had to pick something up at the Emerald’s house. Or maybe he was dropping something off. Running an errand for the Platinum obviously. When Ambot got home he told me he’d seen the garage. He estimated there were over 100 boxes of Perfect Water in there. The Emerald told him those were his customer sales for the month. I just can't see a market for overpriced water. Maybe those customers were IBO’s in his downline. The Emerald couldn’t park his car in the garage either.

The big question is did he really have customers for all those boxes of water (unlikely) or was he stockpiling product and getting his PV up there?

We’ll never know. Fortunately Ambot didn’t stockpile products hoping for future sales. All the useless Amway products he bought were bad enough. I enjoyed tossing them in the trash after Ambot finally had enough of this scam.

Spending money on Amway = tossing it in the garbage. We might as well have burned twenty dollar bills. Would have been cheaper in the long run.

 

Amway Recruiters Are Liars And Fear Peddlers

The last time we published Amway Cult Leaders Claim Social Security Won’t Be There When You Retire - one of our readers had this to say:

 

Amway recruiters are trained to do two things: lie shamelessly, and terrorize people. Social Security has been around for nearly a century now, and is the bedrock security plan for the vast majority of Americans. No politician would DARE to touch it. Amway recruiters are lying through their teeth when they say that the system will disappear.

They also like to scare people. Like telling them that their jobs are meaningless, that brick-and-mortar stores will become obsolete, that if you don't attend some asshole "function" you won't get anywhere, that if you don't take Nutrilite vitamins you'll die, that friends and family members who don't support your Amway business are vicious enemies, and that thinking independently for yourself is a major crime.

In all of America, there isn't a more rotten, corrupt, nasty, and dishonest company than the Amway Corporation, and all of its little AMO subsystems.

 

For sure!!! Here’s what I say

Being liars and terrorizing others is about all Amway losers can do to recruit new members to the Amway cult. All cults promise something good to happen to their flock. With Amway the promise is in 2 to 5 years of working part time 10 to 15 hours a week all the Ambots will have bazillions of dollars rolling in every month for the rest of their lives.

I agree. Amway is the worst, corrupt, most evil, rotten company I've ever dealt with in anywhere I've been in America. No other company destroys lives worse than Amway does and brings the participants emotional and financial distress. Pure shit evil.

 

Amway Cult Leaders Claim Social Security Won’t Be There When You Retire

I’d say just about every Amway meeting we attended one of the scare tactics the speaker used to say was “Social security won’t be there when you retire”.

Well how do they know? I’m pretty sure it will be. But I suppose like any other guesses the speaker has a 50/50 shot of getting that prediction right. So do I!

Even though I think social security will be there when I retire we have other investments and savings and a combination of all are what I hope will sustain us for the rest of our lives. Or my life anyway. I plan to live until at least 100 and keep dishing shit on Amway Ambots! I just know I’m going to outlive everyone. Those broke Amway losers might be dead by age 65 but I’ll keep on ticking!

People need to make decisions during their working years and hopefully most start some sort of retirement savings plan in their 20’s and add other investments to it over the years. For example save up a down payment for house while in your 20’s. Buy that house in your 20’s or 30’s and by your 50’s or certainly by retirement age your house will be paid in full. Knock off that mortgage payment and that’s a big part of monthly expenses that goes away. Also get rid of any outstanding debt by retirement age and don’t incur any further debt and that will make retirement years less stressful.

Those are the big things. Reaching retirement age without debt and owning your own home are huge. I mean who wants to hit retirement age and still be a renter unless you’ve downsized, sold your house and living off the proceeds. If renting at some point in your life because it fits into your financial plan then that’s your plan. If you follow the Amway plan you’ll be a renter forever. That’s hundreds of dollars you pay each month to a landlord because of poor planning in younger years and throwing your money tithing the Great Amway God.

In aprevious post I estimated average monthly expenses in Amwayaround $700. The unknown factor is if this is disposable income or if IBO’s are running up their credit card (probably the latter!). That monthly $700 could be redirected to a mortgage payment instead of being flushed down the Amway toilet.

Our upline's goal was to strike fear in people’s hearts to scare new prospects to sign up to the Amway cult. For a bunch of bastards who extol the virtues of “don’t say negative” they’re the most negative people I’ve ever met. Full of doom and gloom about the future, businesses shutting down, recession, people losing jobs, social security won’t be there, and blah, blah, blah. Who needs to listen to the negative shit that goes on in Amway cult meetings?

The fucking assholes in the Amway upline scare the IBO’s into thinking that social security won’t be there when they retire so they need to find some other income. Any other plans IBO’s have the upline pokes fun at them and puts them down. According to the "wisdom" of our upline bastards Amway is the only choice and all you have to do is spend 2 to 5 years working part time 10 to 15 hours a week doing the work in order to live off residual income for the rest of your life. Freedom!

Yeah right. There are better options out there than throwing your money at Amway chasing futile dreams.

Don’t think negative like the fucking assholes in our Amway upline. Think positive. Social security will be there when you turn 66. (I got a 50% chance of getting that prediction right!)

Forget social security. With luck Amway won’t be around when I retire! Ha ha ha! 50% chance of me getting that prediction right too!

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.
 

Amway Platinums Exploit Their Downline

The last time we pubished Amway Ambots Are Cheap Ass Bastards one of our readers had this to say:

 

What you're pointing out here is that the relationship between down-line and up-line in Amway is essentially exploitative. This fat-assed Platinum expected his down-line to serve him as if he were a king, buying him coffee and snacks, driving him around, and providing expensive materials for meetings.

He used your husband because your family was more affluent than the others in the group, who were all probably dip-shit nobodies with no available cash.

Forcing other people to pay for you is a sign that you are a thoughtless and selfish asshole. But that seems to be the basic style for all Amway Platinums

 

And of course I agreed!

I agree Anonymous. It's one thing to ask someone to buy you a snack and you'll pay them back later instead of just shouting out your order to the person you expect to buy it for you as if that person is their personal cash machine. Which I suppose most downline Ambots are. Every asshole in the Amway upline expects to be treated like royalty with unlimited cash, gifts, and free labor from the Amway losers in their downline.

 

Amway Ambots Are Cheap Ass Bastards

Our sack of shit Platinum used to taunt the Amway cult followers by saying “I could give you a loan but I won’t because that wouldn’t teach you anything. You wouldn’t learn how to make that money on your own.”

Well fuck! The only reason that sack of shit won’t give a loan is because he has no extra cash lying around to give out a loan. Not only does he have a family and household to maintain on an average salary because he is still working a much hated job that pays the bills but he’s in Amway and that means he’s broke all the time. And will be unless he reaches Diamond which he never will because if that was in the cards for him it would have already happened sometime in the last 20 years instead of falling in and out of Platinum qualification. Probably getting angrier and angrier but unable to quit this scam he has devoted most of his life to. (Sideline – from the time this was originally posted a few years ago the sack of shit Platinum was fired by Amway and defected to Monavie where its safe to say he won’t reach Diamond there either! LOL! Cause Monavie bit the dust. Don’t know the current scam he’s flogging)

There were often pre-meetings that took place before the 8pm Amway meetings that the good little Amway warriors had to march off to. These were usually bullshit “counselling” sessions with the sack of shit Platinum. Could take place on a one by one basis or sometimes a small group of ambots would be summoned to meet at a coffee shop. When the sack of shit arrived he’d look around for someone to buy him a snack. Usually at my Ambot who already runs a profitable legitimate business and is older than the other little Amway ambots in the room and more likely to have money or at least room on his credit card. “Buy me a sandwich and coffee” the sack of shit Platinum would order and Ambot would scurry to take care of his Amway cult leader that he worshipped so much.

Other times the sack of shit Platinum would show up at the coffee shop and just call out for someone to get him a coffee and snack. Perhaps one or two of the ambots would scurry to buy the asshole something but usually it was only my husband volunteering. Nobody else had any money and I guess they all looked at Ambot the only homeowner there who owned a legitimate business and drove a nice car as Mr. Moneybags.

Here is a good time to say that our sack of shit Platinum NEVER offered to buy a coffee or a snack for anyone.

What about transportation? It costs money to maintain a car. Almost every Scamway meeting someone drove to the Platinum’s house to pick him up and drive him to where the cult followers were waiting. Price of gas these days its cheaper for the sack of shit Platinum to convince a cult follower that it was a privilege to drive him around. The reality? Saved him putting gas in his car!

The Amway assholes in our upline also expected Ambot to buy the supplies they needed for cult meetings. This was a variety of things. One was a laptop because whoever’s laptop was slower than shit so Ambot would often sneak out of the house with my laptop and give me another reason to dislike those assholes when I decided to go online and couldn’t find my computer anywhere. I mean here are all these fucking assholes in our Amway upline pretending that business is going great and they’re making gazillions of money and none of them can afford to buy a laptop to bring to Amway meetings to use in the presentation. Of which the sack of shit Platinum always led the Amway cult meetings. Why can’t he afford a laptop computer? Especially since he told us he makes about 100k in Amway. People who earn a fraction of that in Amway can afford laptops and he can’t? Scammer and liar!

Someone in our upline who claimed to be a 1000 pin - and perhaps he hit that level at one time in the last 10 years but its not like he did ever again - had a camera that was used for podcasts but it broke. Now instead of him buying another or someone else who was at least 1000 pin level Ambot was ordered to purchase one - $200 cha ching! - to use at Scamway meetings and one of the upline assholes broke that one too. And no we never bought another. That was about the time Ambot had enough of those fucking Amway assholes praying that I would meet another man and leave him. You’d think the asshole who broke the camera would replace it but not that cheap bastard! He probably convinced Ambot there was something wrong with the camera. Blame the victim! Blame the camera! Ambots are always quick to point the finger. I've got one finger I save for people in Amway myself!

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You gotta wonder how those Amway assholes are struggling along at their cult meetings once Ambot never returned with a working lap top and camera!

Same with Amway flash cards. Ambot bought them but the sack of shit Platinum refused to do any cult meetings at our house because Ambot wasn’t able to bring any prospects. We had a lot of no-shows. Well no shit! It is Amway after all. No one wants to get involved with that pyramid scheme! But back to the flash cards. Word was out that Ambot had them at home just in case the sack of shit would hold a meeting at our house and soon he was ordered to bring them to all cult meetings he attended so they could be used. Some thieving ambot in our upline stole them. Oh well. Its not like I wanted them back! I would have even sold them to the thieving Amway asshole for $10 - what a deal! But no. Our line of sponsorship was WWDB the most unethical scheming thieving lying bastards around.

Puts a whole new meaning to tool scam. If ambots can't afford to buy them then they will steal them. Or break them in a jealous rage.

Are Amway IBO’s a bunch of cheap bastards are or they just constantly broke thanks to their involvement in Amway?

Or do they have a sense of entitlement that just because they’re in Amway that everyone else owes them?

I’d say its a combination of all 3.

 

 

 

10 Warning Signs Of A Dangerous Amway Cult Leader

This is an excerpt that was originally on the Rick Ross web site. I guess he must have let his domain expire and another guy with the same name picked it up. Or if it’s the same guy he’s now reviewing casinos. Anyway Rick Ross is on the Cult Education Institute now. You might have seen him on various TV documentaries on the Charles Manson and Jim Jones cults where he gave insight to these dangerous, evil people who Amway cult leaders model themselves after. The original article can now be found here. http://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html

This page is worth a read. In addition to warning signs of a leader it includes a list of warning signs that people might be involved with a dangerous leader. Interestingly there is also a list of 10 signs of a safe leader. Ha ha! Nothing on the safe list can be said about our former sack of shit Platinum! He’s the complete opposite!

Anyway Rick Ross’s list is called Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader but it could just as aptly be named Ten warning signs of a dangerous Amway leader. The comments in black are Rick Ross’s warning signs. The comments in red are mine. Get it. Red is a color warning of danger.

1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. This was mostly clear to me from our sack of shit Platinum who we heard speak more than we heard any other speaker, Emerald or Diamond. He demanded everyone in his downline to “ask permission” before doing anything. Constantly telling us to “submit to upline” and never question upline.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. “Never question upline! Who do you think you are asking me something like that! Everything I say is the truth!”
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement. The sack of shit never showed us his budget, his profit and loss statement, tax returns, etc. though he wanted to see all of ours.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions. All the time! What else is out there except Amway? The answer to everyone’s prayers. Financial security for the rest of your life. Everyone else is doomed to have a J.O.B. and work for someone else. Nothing but negativity at Amway meetings with all the talk of doom and gloom and businesses shutting down and social security won’t be there when you retire, etc.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil. The ones who leave are quitters, losers, broke losers, negative, dream stealers, etc. Nothing but insults for those who have quit Amway and current IBO’s are not allowed to associate with them anymore.
6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances. Our stories are all over the Internet. They’re all the same story: upline abuse, brainwashing, financial losses, house foreclosures, bankruptcy, emotional distress, destroyed marriages, alienation from friends and family.....
7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader. Again all over the Internet are blogs written by former IBO’s. NBC Dateline did an expose. Many former Amway cult followers have written books. Abuse from the upline and lives that have been destroyed by Amway is well documented.
8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough". A good example of this was the attempt our WWDB group made to sell Amway items for Christmas and rented a community hall for the event. Ambot had several friends show up and one person made purchases. Ambot had the only sale there all day and was rather pleased with himself. When it was over the Platinum highlighted Ambot who was expecting praise but instead he was criticized that only one of his friends purchased Amway products and that meant they weren’t his true friends. It was a constant cycle of abuse where the Platinum would punish, scold and berate and then say “but we still love you”.
9. The group/leader is always right. The sack of shit Platinum is always right. Pompous son of a bitch even told us once that his wife never wins an argument with him because he is always right. Oh gee, one of the top criteria for a happy marriage. According to Amway cult leaders that is.
10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible. Its all about information control. Our Platinum wanted to control the information the IBO’s received. Cult followers are brainwashed to believe the Platinum is always telling the truth. He gave his version of the news and told IBO’s not to listen to the news or read the Internet because it was wrong and could not be trusted whereas he would always tell the truth. Discrediting an information source is easier for the Platinum than debating the truth. By controlling the information the Platinum removes the IBO’s ability to think for themselves. Sleep deprivation also helps the cult leader in the brainwashing. Keeping IBO’s up to 1 or 2 or 3 in the morning and they are so tired that they’re willing to agree everything they hear at that hour is the truth.

Of course we can see it now. I’d say I saw this within a month of knowing the Platinum and getting involved in Amway. Too bad for the bastard that I wouldn’t drink the kool aid. Like we need any further proof that Amway leaders used cult techniques to brainwash their downline.

And then these same cult leaders claim Amway is not a cult. Deny, deny, deny. Lie, lie, lie. That’s the secret to success in Amway.

I’ll just send out another big old fuck you to everyone in our Amway upline. FUCK YOU AMWAY!!!

 

 

Pat On The Back

The last time we ran the Amway Flaunted As A Recession Proof Business post, one of our readers loved it! Here’s a recap:

 

Anna, this is a brilliant column! One of your best!

It shows how utterly stupid and corrupt the higher up-line in Amway is, and how mindless the lower-level ones are. Telling persons that they can survive a recession and a job layoff by being in Amway and living off Amway products? Huh? Could anybody on the planet be that goddamned stupid or evil?

Eat Amway energy bars and vitamins and Perfect Water instead of normal food? What kind of an asshole would even dare to make such a suggestion? Only someone in Amway.

You can make up for a lost paycheck by selling people crummy Amway products? Is that for real? Only someone in Amway would make such an asinine suggestion.

Amway is a criminal enterprise, and I wish it would be targeted by lawmakers who could prosecute it under the RICO Act. Every fucking Platinum and big pin and Diamond should be dragged away in handcuffs.