Amway Maintains Itself Through Brainwashing

The last time we ran the post about Amway being a disgusting cult, one of our readers had this to say – one of the best responses ever on what it’s like to sign up to the Amway cult:

 

This sort of thing happens whenever you join any kind of social group where you are compelled to give up your personal freedom to choose or to decide matters. All groups by their nature are conformist and tyrannical.

Cults are the very worst example of this kind of social group. They force you to obey certain leaders, they limit your range of choices, they dictate how you may use your time, and they extort monetary payments and other kinds of support from you.

But most horrible of all, they COMPEL YOU TO THINK AND REACT IN CERTAIN APPROVED WAYS. You are simply not allowed to have opinions or ideas that run contrary to what the group and its leaders have. And your speech and behavior are constantly scrutinized by everyone else in the cult to make sure that you are not deviating from the cult's approved patterns.

Amway is one of the oldest (and sickest) business cults. The entire aim of up-line in Amway is to rule over down-line IBOs in every aspect of their existence. Speech, thought, behavior, dress, deportment, purchases, friendships, education, and even where you live and what kind of car you drive -- all these things are rigidly controlled by your up-line, and if you attempt to deviate from prescribed patterns you will be abused and publicly vilified.

Fortunately, most members of Amway drop out quickly when they realize what they have signed on for. Up-line rages violently when they do this, but they then work feverishly to replace the IBOs who have resigned with new idiots.

And this is the real truth about Amway: it has nothing to do with the stupid products. It has everything to do with being a cult that maintains itself through intense brainwashing. That's why the Amway speechmakers always talk about "leadership" and "helping others," while neglecting to tell anyone how to sell Amway products to retail customers.

 

 

Amway Is A Disgusting Cult

This is my story. This is your story. This is everyone's story that ever got involved in ScAmway and witnessed the brainwashing and manipulation. Nothing every changes. This could have happened yesterday, 10 years ago, 20 years ago or even longer than that. Thanks to one of our readers for sharing their story on why Amway is a disgusting cult:

 

Amazing blog you have here! Lol it cracks me up.

I have my own little Amway story for you from when I was in the cult: I was in Amway last year dragged in by a co-worker with the idea of making millions and retiring within 2-5.

I soon realized Amway truly is a cult.

My upline would encourage us to cut out our own family and friends if they talked against Amway. They called themselves our family and the only family we need. The constantly badgered me to drag my girlfriend into the cult and it eventually got to a point where they were telling me she’s a non believer and that I should consider dating someone within the Amway cult.

Everyone would worship our upline leader and if anybody decided to say anything controversial about him to anyone inside the cult, the word would get to the leader and he would have a personal one on one talk with you. I remember one time I was talking privately to this guy at one of my first Amway events (I was just asking him basic questions, trying to figure out what this is about) and my upline approached me after and asked me what we were talking about. And they continued by telling me to be careful what I say to other people and if they find out I am talking bad about Amway or anyone within Amway there will be consequences (I don’t know why this didn’t make me run as far away as I could after this incident, I think the idea of riches and retirement was more important to me).

Also our cult leader would hug people at the meetings and tell them “I love you”. He would call all the men within the cult “brother”. He was manipulative and he used weak people to gain their love and trust. After meetings this bastard would bring everyone outside and show off his brand new car he “paid with cash”. He would literally make people sit inside of it just to experience what “they will have one day if they stick to the plan”.

He would exploit certain peoples childhoods and weakness to bring them crawling to his feet. I swear he would tell people this story about how one time he sat through and entire Amway event with a burst appendix because it was more important to him that he received this information than to go to the hospital. What a joke!

I feel like such an idiot for falling for this disgusting cult. Sometimes I can’t even believe I fell for it. They are using a very effective form of brainwashing amongst these people. Its scary to even recall this type of stuff. It is a true cult and there is absolutely no arguing that. I fully 100% believe with all my heart that this is the wrong path to go down. Amway is not a legitimate business opportunity, it is a shitty recruiting job that ends up with you loosing family, friends, and having people laugh in your face when you try and “drop the message” to them. Very scary stuff. I hope all these brainwashed ambots will realize one day they are wasting their time and money.

 

8PM Amway Warriors

At some of the major functions I attended I often heard the speakers from stage refer to the husband as a warrior. The man would call himself a warrior fighting for his family’s financial future. And the wife, good little Barbie Ambot, would look adoringly at her husband and sigh “My warrior.”

Too sickening even for a paperback romance novel!

Amway warriors. Off to fight a war. Of course the big battle is signing up new IBO’s and convincing other people to buy overpriced Amway products.

Ambot would be so fired up after getting home from the function that he’d often send me text messages signed “love, your warrior”.

I’m a pacifist. This blog isn’t the venue to get into a political discussion on any wars or civil unrest going on in the world but suffice it to say that pacifists oppose fighting and war and therefore the term warrior is not such a popular choice to sway any pacifists.

I couldn’t possibly be the only pacifist in a stadium with 10,000 people or however many the stadium holds.

Warriors! Sounds like a game kids play.

Maybe somebody else has better insight on why Amway Diamonds call themselves warriors. Off to war. Fighting a battle against those who oppose the Amway scam.

I came across a post written by a blogger who calls himself the 8pm Warrior where he discusses if MLM is a good opportunity for 8pm warriors. http://8pmwarrior.com/2011/01/is-multi-level-marketing-mlm-a-good-opportunity-for-8pm-warriors/

Edited to add – that’s a dead link but it was good the first time this post appeared! The website has done an overhaul and now it’s more about thoughts from an 8pm warrior. 8pmwarrior.com

First off I want to say I love the name “8pm Warrior”. That is so true of Amway Ambots marching off to their 8pm cult meetings. This blogger is not an Amway IBO but when I first heard of him I thought he might be which is why I took a peek.

This particular post got a few comments including several from a “James” who admits to 10+ year involvement in Quixtar/Amway. He writes rather lengthy responses explaining his point of view as an IBO. A lot of typical Amway speak. To give the guy credit his responses are well written and thought out but for all I know he’s copied and pasted from similar posts that he plasters all over the Internet. Years ago Joecool had a blog visitor named James leaving similar comments and responses to his posts. I can’t help thinking it might be the same guy because he invites others to contact him to further discuss the Amway opportunity. So did the poster named James who commented on Joecool’s blogs. Doesn’t really matter one way or the other except that Joecool’s “James” has not been heard of in a long time and I wondered if this was him resurfacing.

Amway warriors? Go to bed little boys.

 

How Do I Get Someone Out Of The Amway Cult?

There’s a podcast featuring Robert Fitzgerald of Pyramid Scheme Alert and one of the questions the interviewer asks is how do you get someone out of an MLM cult. http://theartofcharm.com/podcast-episodes/robert-fitzpatrick-mlm-doesnt-work-episode-247/

Fitzgerald’s answer goes something along the lines of that’s the million dollar question and if he had the answer he’d be a rich man.

I get dozens of searchers weekly looking for information on how they can get their husband/parent/child/friend out of Amway. What’s really sad is the number of people searching for that on Thanksgiving and Christmas when the Ambot probably didn’t show up for the family gathering or did show up with the arrogant asshole Amway Ambot attitude - and no one needs that shit at a holiday gathering.

People looking for a quick answer on how to get someone out of Amway or any other cult aren’t going to find it. Depending on how badly brainwashed the Amway cult follower is or if he’s showing signs of leaving the cult you might be able to reason with him and to the extreme hiring a specialist who kidnaps the cult follower and tries to deprogram their brainwashed Amway Ambot mind.

There is no one size fits all answer for how to get someone out of Amway. This is an evil cult. The Amway commissioned salespeople are built up to think that they are big important business owners instead of cult followers and are given this dumb fuck title called IBO = Independent Business Owner. The IBO attends countless Amway meetings where they are supposedly given business advice but instead are actually brainwashing sessions.

And yes I know because I was dragged into many Amway cult meetings disguised as “business meetings”. And no you can’t brainwash someone who can’t stand you and sees you for the lying scamming evil sack of shit scumbag that you are. No actual business advice is ever given at Amway “business meetings”. No information on getting yourself registered as a business, getting tax numbers, getting a business bank account, getting a business license, getting business insurance, writing a business plan, creating a profit and loss statement, etc, etc. Some “business advice” given at Amway meetings is to buy from your own store and buy tickets to the next Amway function. Don’t have anything to do with people who won’t support your Amway business. I have a whole bunch more dumb ass “business advice” given at Amway meetings such as don’t dress like a slut but they can be found on other posts on this blog.

Oh wait lets not forget this piece of advice that I have only heard in Amway not in any other business. You must ask permission from the assholes in the Amway upline before you do anything or buy anything. Cult cult cult cult cult!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People fall into cults for various reasons and commercial cults of greed like Amway have to do with getting rich. And getting rich with all their new ambot friends and in 2 years they’ll all be sitting on a beach drinking mai tais while bazillions of dollars in residual income from Amway come rolling in every month and they can sit back and retire and do nothing forever except walk the beaches of the world with the other ambots.

Cults use something attractive and tempting to con a follower into joining. A cult like Amway promises unlimited riches. Other cults might promise a special place in heaven. All cults promise their followers something appealing or at least appealing to the prospect who signs up. If the Amway cult leaders were honest at Amway cult meetings they’d say over 99% of you will never make money, you’ll lose lots of money, your savings account will be wiped out, if you have a house we’ll send you into foreclosure, if you have credit cards we’ll run up your debt to the point you might end up in bankruptcy court, and if you’re married we’re going to destroy your relationship so you’ll get divorced. But Amway cult leaders aren’t honest. They’re full of lies and bullshit about how everyone’s going to be rich and Diamonds sell tickets to brainwashed Ambots and show slide shows of their riches or stuff they’ve rented for a photo shoot and sneer at the followers if we can do it so can you. If the Amway cult leaders were honest - LOL like that would ever happen! - they’d never sign anyone up. That’s why you’ve got to be a good liar if you expect to make any money in Scamway.

It’s no different than Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. Jones enticed his cult followers to move to Guyana where he conveniently named a compound after himself, Jonestown. A tropical paradise where the followers would be free from the evils of the outside world. A place where colored cult followers could live in peace and not be subject to racism. Utopia. There was about 1000 cult followers living there at the end. If Jones had been truthful he would have said we’re going to a hot, humid insect infected country where you’ll be using axes to constantly cut back the jungle and slaving away at hard labor all your waking hours and then we’ll all drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid and die. Jones would have had much less success recruiting cult followers if he’d be honest up front that they were joining a suicide cult and the end was coming soon.

Cult leaders are LIARS!

That’s the only way they can scam people to join their cults. Promising something they know that individual needs.

Around here we get a lot of search engine hits on how to get someone out of the Amway cult. That tells us there are a lot of desperate wives surfing the Internet who are fed up with the Amway bullshit. Although wives have the most searches other searches are how to get a family member or friend out of Amway.

I can’t offer substantial advice other than wait it out and hope your husband is one of the majority who leaves Amway within the year when he finally figures out he’s not making any money. Everyone has different tolerance levels and bank account balances. What pisses off one woman might have little effect on another. Mostly what really pisses off women is the attitude adjustment their husband goes through due to involvement in the Amway cult. Sweet, sensitive husbands are turned into angry, ugly, sneering creatures who constantly criticize everyone who is not in Amway or supporting their Amway business.

But how do you get someone out of Amway? Unfortunately all you can usually do is let the brainwashed ambot dig their own grave. Once they max out their credit cards and drain their bank account they can’t keep tithing the Great Amway God and then they’ll face the anger and wrath from the fucking assholes in the Amway upline when there’s no more money to be sent up the pyramid. They probably are facing foreclosure, bankruptcy, maybe divorce. When they stop listening to brainwashing CD’s and attending Amway cult meetings their mind starts to clear. And they quit. Usually happens inside a year maybe two years. Any longer than that inside the Amway cult the person is usually a lifer.

I’ve had a few desperate visitors leave comments asking how to get their loved one out of the Amway cult and there really is no answer but the links in the right side of this page under more information about Amway might help such as reading the free ebook Merchants of Deception, watching the Dateline videos, checking out the Pyramid Scheme website for resources, or looking for groups that can deprogram cult followers such as Steve Hassan who has helped deprogram former Amway cult members.

Wives who are married to ambots and going through the shit the asshole in his Amway upline are putting your through might have to see a lawyer for proper legal advice and get their ducks in a row for when things turn worse. Marriages are hard enough when going through money problems and even worse when the evil Amway cult is the main contributor to money problems.

Hang in there as long as you can and I hope things get better for you.

 

Who Sells The Shittiest Towels? – Amway!

The worst towels I have ever used came from Amway. This was a few years back. I have no idea if Amway still sells shitty towels. I can’t remember what colors Ambot purchased. I definitely remember red. I think the other set was a different color, maybe blue or green.

The first time I used the towels all the little red fluff came off all over my body. YUCK! So I toss them in the washer and dryer hoping that a cycle will get rid of the fluffies. I know from past experience that sometimes a washing or two is necessary to get the lint off.

No such luck. For the next month I washed and dried those suckers multiple times following each use because everytime I used them I was grossed out by all the towel fluff left on my body. Talk about low quality at a premium price! Not to mention how irritating it is to dry myself off and have towel parts stuck all over me. Absolutely disgusting.

After a month I told Ambot I refused to use those shitty towels anymore. I went to the department store and bought Ralph Loren Polo towels. They were lower priced and better quality than the Amway towels. The best thing? No more shedding!

The second best thing is those higher quality RL towels lasted for years. They’d still be going strong except I decided I needed a change and headed to JC Penney to buy some nice plush Egyptian towels. If anyone is looking for good quality reasonably priced fluffy luxurious towels, they’re from the Chris Madden Home Collection at JC Penney. (Edited to add since this post first appeared on the blog I’m really fucking pissed off at JC Penney for not carrying this brand anymore the last time I needed to refresh the towels.)

Getting back to the fluff magnets, Ambot was able to return the towels with the complaint that they shed worse than our dog. I guess our sack of shit Platinum and other fucking assholes in our Amway upline lost some points on that refund too! Upline losing bonus points because of me is, well, always a bonus!

 

 

Why Wives Want Their Ambot Husbands To Quit Amway

Separate and divide!

That’s the upline’s motto when a husband is more interested in being an Amway IBO than the wife is. When word is out that the wife wants her husband to quit Amway the upline kicks up their campaign to bust up their relationship. Can’t let her get in the way of their income, can they?

In many cases its the husband who has been prospected into the Amway business by a relative or friend. Sometimes the husband and wife are prospected together and shown the business plan. Usually the husband is eager to join Amway because the sponsor or upline has put the screws to him saying stuff like “Don’t you want your wife to be free from her job and be at home for your children?” Or “Don’t you want to provide for your family?” Or “If you don't do the business you’re risking your family's future and don't you love your family and want the best for them?”

The women tend to look at the numbers - dollars and the amount of people needed to make them - and might say it looks good on paper but in reality how likely is it that we can actually find enough people to sponsor as IBO’s and buy Amway products to actually make this business work.

If the wife isn’t all that interested in attending Amway meetings and buying products the cult leader brainwashes the husband to believe his wife is “negative to his business” and then starts the process of separating him from his wife.

Its a tough spot for a wife to be in. She wants to support her husband but she doesn’t want anything to do with those brainwashed cult followers who are hell bent on destroying their marriage.

The wife is likely negative to the business because the husband is spending hundreds of dollars a month on expensive Amway products, CDs, books, meetings and functions, monthly membership into whatever line of sponsorship he’s in, and any other miscellaneous tools that the upline decides he must throw his money at. The husband no longer has time for her, the family, outings, and events that may conflict with “the business” that the upline pressures him into making the number one priority in his life. The wife is not happy with the ugly personality change that is happening to her husband.

For all his efforts and money spent trying to build a business the husband is likely coming up zippo trying to convince people to come to board plan meetings, let alone sign up any new IBO’s. Its also hard to find retail customers. Once people know its Amway they’re usually not interested due to the high prices and Amway’s bad reputation as a scam. The husband becomes more aggressive hounding friends and family to buy those shitty Amway products and it doesn’t take long for people to start avoiding him. The husband undergoes a complete personality change basically turning from a sweet loving man into a nasty snarling ugly Ambot who becomes increasingly angry as he faces reality that his hard work is not bringing results.

The wife just wants her husband back. She wants those Amway cult followers out of their lives. She wants her husband to stop blowing their money on Amway tools and products.

She’s tired of being accused of being non-supportive, non-Christian, a people hater, holding him back, etc.

Enough is enough.

The breaking point is near. If it hasn’t already been reached.

Something has to give.

Will it be Amway? Or will it be the marriage?

Yup it’s a good time to send out a big old FUCK YOU to Amway and FUCK YOU to all those fucking Amway Ambots out there.