Amway Ambots Will Be Gazillionaires In 2 To 5 Years

A reader shares their story. And haven’t we all heard this story. Why does everyone have a bunch of assholes in their Amway upline who are always so busy but they’ll squeeze out some time to fit you in and expect you to kiss their ass. Could have been sitting there in Coffee Bean…..


Lol, so yesterday my friend called me to schedule a meeting today. I asked her the things like how much she is paying for tools ($100 per month), how much is her total expense far, and how come this business does not have a normal plan, projection, etc like a normal business. I think I should give up on my friend coz she answered me like a robot. She mentioned all of her expenses she does not consider them as expenses, but rather as investments. Mind you my friend background is accounting, so it rather confused me. As far as accounting goes, if you don't put it as expense, you can only put the costs as assets, but you can't put those kind of stuffs as assets coz they're literally worthless.

So, today I met her Emerald upline at Coffee Bean (something like Starbucks). I didn't know I was going to meet this Emerald, as previously my friend said I was going to meet his wife or what. Then 15 minutes before scheduled appointment she messaged about this Emerald shit giving me time despite his busy schedule, and I immediately mentioned I will be late when I could've made it in time. I was trying to look whether this stupid Emerald is really as busy as he says (I think not). I arrived 20 minutes late and the sack of shit hadn't arrived yet lol. Mind you our "short" time of discussion lasted for like 2 and a half hours coz the Emerald is damn busy.

The person started giving usual bullshit of 2-5 year, 10hrs/week and I can get $10,000/month as passive income. Then he explains his statistics of 1,000 sample size is big enough to represent the whole population. I told him straight away that I've never heard those theory before and my background is Mathematics. He gave me some stupid excuses, then continue with usual Amway does everything for him, so he can concentrate on sales. Yeah, true Amway does everything for him and charge him a huge margin on their products. In the meantime he kept telling me accounting is shit and waste of time, knowing full well that I do account in my current company. If accounting is shit probably Amway should ditch it as well and pay those diamond and emerald anyhow they want hahaha ...

He also said when he went to Emerald function in Los Angeles last year, there were few thousands of people (he mentioned only 3,000 at first, but later didn't want to be specific). I later asked him how many people are in Scamwork 21, which he answered few hundred thousands. Lol, so the foolproof system only has success rate of around 1%? And they still want to tell me it's 100% success rate?

We then proceeded to compensation plan, which he explained to me in details coz I pushed really hard on that. My conclusion is, if he only has 3-4 legs at Platinum, his "passive" income should not be at $10,000, but more like $3,000 to $4,000 gross even with the bonus. What a fucking liar shit Emerald. He mentioned he has lots of downline at 3% so he can earn another 18% on them. No shit, the downline at 3% probably only spend $400 max per month, so he got like $72 from each of them. And I really doubt he has lots of 3% downline. 3% downline probably already quit after long time not making money, but losing money for buying shitty products.

We then moved on to what they call CEP, which basically means subscription of stupid ass cd and books, and functions. They dare to tell me first that they sell those tools at costs, then when I pointed out to them, cd don't cost $6 to make. You can buy blank cd at $0.10 or maybe less. With the production costs and freight, I doubt that cd costs more than $2 per piece. Not to mention the book they lent to me costs like 5 times of Amazon's price. They then changed their tune that it is a for profit organization, need to pay office rent, employees, etc. They also said it's not about the costs, but about the quality. Wow, what is the difference in quality between the very same book from them (at $10) and from Amazon (<$2)? They then mentioned about my college degree and investment on it. Excuse me? College degree is something with value, something that is required by a lot of company to get a decent job. It's not a useless shit of cd and functions with no contents.

I tried to close the discussion by saying I can't agree with the system that benefits from its member by a lot (basically saying it's a scam). And wow, they are very persistent on me trying some more cd and books or some of Amway products. I told them I don't want to waste time on overpriced products and that I hated those cds, can't stand listening to other cd anymore, the cds are useless and give nothing beneficial. Then they tried to force me to listen to other cds coz they have few millions of cds (OMG! are you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!). I almost rolled my eyes coz $4x(few hundred thousand of members)x (few million cds) = gee no wonder Jim and Nancy Dornan and those asshole Diamonds are rich. So, I flat out told them no, no , no and NO! Yet they still tried to sold me so I just told them I won't change my mind no matter what and that their system is shit (and implying it's a scam) haha ... I think I should be free now from them. Hurray!

 

 

No One Is Buying My Shitty Amway Products Bitches The Ambot

“No one is buying my Amway products.”

That is the lament of a searcher who showed up at this blog. Not me bitching! I have no Scamway products for sale!

There is a reason why no one is buying your Amway products. That is because the food and drink items taste like shit and piss. The cleaning products are average to lousy. The cosmetics are ugly. I could go on and on.

But the main reason no one is buying your shitty Amway products is the price tag. Amway charges exorbitant prices for generic and substandard products. Amway is hardly the only company around to stick overinflated price tags on products that are worth a fraction of the cost. Some people might say Safeway is too high priced or Target is too high priced or Burger King is too high priced. Though as far as I know none of these establishments has regularly been accused of being a cult. Can Amway say that?

Price can be subjective.

Quality not so much.

Brainwashing people to believe that they pay high prices and receive high quality products is the sign of a good Amway cult leader. Especially when those “high quality” products are shit. Generic products at best. Substandard is more like it.

To others money doesn’t matter so much and many people are open to paying more money for better quality products. Unfortunately Amway does not have better quality products except in the minds of their current crop of brainwashed IBOs. When those IBO’s quit Amway why don’t they keep buying Amway products if they think they’re so wonderful and reasonably priced? Because reality sinks in when a person is no longer being brainwashed and they got it figured out that Amway’s products are really no better than brand name products and often much worse.

Think of it this way. According to an Amway employee who stopped by the blog one day and let us know that employees are given free boxes of SA8 laundry detergent or whatever name they use now. S/he is like no thanks and goes to the store to buy Tide. Why spend money on a product you can get for free? Could it be that this Amway employee wants their clothes to come out clean in the wash?

Put aside the low quality and the high prices on Amway products.

Most people don’t want to buy Amway products because of Amway’s shitty reputation. And how did Amway get a shitty reputation? That would be thanks to the antics of their commissioned salespeople aka Amway independent business owners aka IBO’s aka ambots.

The trickery, the bad behavior, and the lies are what makes Amway IBO’s.

High price tags, shitty quality, and the bad reputation of others before you is why people don’t want to buy your Amway products

In The Amway Cult Only Money Matters

A reader shares their story and some wise advice.

I was involved in Amway from May 2012 to March 2013. A friend invited me along to a monthly seminar and while I was overwhelmed with the terrible pop music, in-time clapping, positivity overload and promises of achieving my “dreams” and “goals”. Naively, I assumed my friend invited me for my benefit so I signed up that night.

I played ball for a few months (because I still had a shred of optimism), attended most of the functions (including three weekend conventions), bought stuff from the website, listened to the CDs and even hosted a house/launch party. I got put into a good team of normal people who all seemed supportive.

While some of friends knew it was a scam, I ignored them. Heading towards Christmas, reality finally hit. I lost my job momentarily in November and was limping by on my now meagre savings (thanks to all the money I’d spent on Amway). I was forced to look at the most important things to survive - pay rent and buy food – rather than wasting my time with Amway. Because of this reality check, I started to see through the feelgood bullshit of Amway. While they sell you on reaching your “dreams” and “goals”, the harsh reality is most of the money goes to the big guns: the Diamonds, the Oblongs, the Rectangles etc. Most of those who make it already have oodles of money and saving and don’t need Amway, they’re just being greedy.

Those who are students, low-income earners or who don’t have a secure income, Amway can be potentially damaging, spending money you don’t have on something you don’t need. In my time in Amway, I estimated I spent over $2,000 on various stuff and made less than $100. While I found the online shopping part convenient, it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to go down to your local supermarket and buy what you need. While I got my job back in late November, I immediately lost interest after the October conference (as I had to rebuild financially), I took until March to fully quit, mainly because my friend – who was now my “upline” – was away overseas and if I was going to quit, I wanted to do it face-to-face. In the ensuing months, I completely stopped activity: no more CDs, no more shopping, no more functions (I was always able to find a convenient excuse). When the March convention came around, I was upfront with my friend and he was fine with it. I left the convention on the Saturday afternoon and didn’t look back. It was a relief.

Looking back, Amway has had a negative effect on me emotionally. All the feelgood crap, false hope and focus on materialism made me cynical and bitter. Anytime people mention their “dreams” and “goals”, I roll my eyes dramatically. I’m nowhere near as optimistic about life as I was before I joined Amway. The worst part was, had I not been involved with Amway, my brief time out of work would have been more comfortable financially. Like most ‘get rich quick’ schemes, it relies on trickery and lots of materialistic, shallow rubbish. It’s basically saying “money is the only thing that matters.” I call shenanigans. Yes, money is great for peace of mind, but it doesn’t make you happy. If you want financial security, work hard, invest wisely and spend sensibly.

 

 

Fucking Assholes In Amway Upline Force You To Drive All Over The Fucking County

When we were in Amway and WWDB orders for overpriced shitty Amway products were placed on the Internet and delivered to our house. Our sack of shit Platinum would rant at us during Amway meetings that we had it lucky. When he started in Amway he had to drive a couple of towns away to pick up the Amway order from his upline and then he spent hours delivering it all over the place. He said when his car broke down he had to take the bus - and undoubtedly a few helpers - to carry all the boxes. So the sack of shit would go on and on and on about the shit he went through in Amway to get him where he was. Uh, lets see. Was he under the false impression that I actually cared?

Every week we had to order tools - CDs and books - the more the better of course from the point of view of the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. I have no idea how the Platinum sack of shit received them. All I know is the upline Eagle picked them up from Platinum’s house rather late at night when he got off work and then we met him at Dunkin Donuts around 10pm or 10:30 to pick up our order. The donut shop was about halfway between our house and the Platinum’s house. It was a central location for the Eagle’s downline to show up and pick up their tools because most of them lived within a 15 minute drive and the Eagle lived further out.

This went on for maybe a month. Then the Platinum heard about it. The fucking asshole went nutso! He screamed and shrieked and carried on as if someone had just committed murder! Holy shit it was amazing!

The Platinum ordered the Eagle to stop meeting downline at Dunkin Donuts. Who knows why? Maybe the fucker had shares in Krispy Kreme? He ordered all tools to be picked up at the Eagle’s house about an hour’s drive each way.

I was really pissed off. But then anytime that meddling sack of shit sticks his ass into anyone’s business it pisses me off. I pointed out to Ambot that this was really dumb. The Platinum sack of shit lives about a thirty minute drive from our house. The fucking Eagle is closer to an hour away depends on traffic which you would think would be lighter that time of night - NOT. It would be quicker for us to go to the Platinum’s house and pick up those shitty tools that I didn’t want in the first place. Because I knew Ambot was going to plug one of those damned CD’s into the car’s stereo and crank up the volume so it would be like listening to one of those fire and brimstone sermons from a tent church the whole drive home. Add to the fact that the Eagle didn’t get home - and here its important to point out that he still lived with mommy and daddy even though he’s in his mid 20’s - until at least 10:30 at night. So we’re driving all over the countryside for a couple of hours late at night when I’d rather be getting ready for bed. We’ve got customers to deal with in the morning. Real customers in our real business. Not pity customers helping us out buying Amway shit. What the fuck is Ambot thinking? I told him to cancel any further orders for tools. If we all stuck together and cancelled tool orders and refused to drive to the Eagle’s house to pick them up maybe we’d “get permission” to pick them up at a central location again. Like I had any chance of the other downline doing anything to disobey the Platinum.

Ambot had to be CORE and feed into the tool scam so his upline could get rich. He had to bust ass driving out of town late at night to pick up $10 worth of CD’s every week. It cost about that much in gas for a round trip drive. Not to mention our time. Why the hell didn’t he just wait another day to pick up the damned tools at the next night’s Amway meeting? After a few weeks Ambot had enough of the late night drives and he did pick up his CD’s and books from the Eagle the next time he saw him. They had to be sneaky about it though. You know - hiding them under their shirts!

And the point of this whole exercise? To teach us discipline. What? We’re in the armed forces maybe and that’s why we need discipline? We became responsible adults understanding discipline. Why the fuck do we need to keep learning about discipline because we’re in Amway?

Oh I forgot. The discipline thing is because we're in a cult. Its all about brainwashing the IBO’s and ordering them around to make sure they’re good little cult followers. Loyalty and obedience to the cult leader is the most important thing.

Like I really needed another reason to dislike the Platinum. Once again I send a big old fuck you out to that sack of shit.

 

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

 

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!

 

Another Lost Relationship Thanks To Amway

A reader shares their Amway horror story.

My best friend of 10 yrs is an ambot. She is secretly dating a guy in Amway, & tells us she doesn’t want their relationship to be official & out on Facebook as they don’t want to mix business & their relationship. After a month she told us she didn’t think Amway was for her, & we felt relieved. The next time we saw her, she told us she was back in Amway & her “passions were set on fire.” As her friend, I wanted to support her happiness & knew if I expressed any concern, she’d view it as me being a “negative” person.

My best friend is my maid of honor in my wedding (I’m engaged) & w/i a few months, I watched my best friend give up: her videography business, Bible study with us for Amway’s “church services”, working with a financial advisor for retirement as “Amway has a better financial plan,” a European trip she’d been planning for MONTHS because she “didn’t have time to travel,” & abandon our friendship for amway

My best friend texted me asking what I was doing the next day from 7:40-9:00pm. I told her I was free & she manipulatively invited me to an Amway event & expressed that I could benefit from hearing it & it would mean a lot to her. I responded saying I love & support her but no thank you, amway isn’t for me. She was upset & ignored me & when I asked if she’d gotten my previous text to talk, she she didn’t need to explain herself & that she was going to be busy in the next weeks so we couldn’t see each other.

At this point, I knew I had to express concern because a good friend would do that. Even if it meant it backfiring. We finally met up & after some small talk I said, “I think this deserved a conversation & so I wanted to share with you why I declined your invite to your Amway meeting.” I told her how my grandfather was in Amway & it was a big reason he & his wife got divorced. They were raising 5 kids & he was losing $ in amway. I also told her I did a lot of research on Amway & concluded based on those 2 things that it wasn’t for me, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support her & her happiness. She got offended. She compared me to one of her other friends saying this other friend would go to a meeting if she asked. She said she wanted me to go so I could understand where her priorities were focused & so I could ‘understand why we wouldn’t see each other that much’

She told me that I “just have to go to the meetings to understand why I’m not a priority” & I told her if someone asked about my business, my faith, etc that I could explain it to them in words for them to understand. She said “when I achieve my dream, I’m going to take my friends & family on exotic vacations all around the world!” I said, “so all the friends & family you made not important in your life are just going to all of a sudden go on vacation with you?”

I told her I missed her & feel that I’m losing my best friend (i’m sobbing at this point telling her this). I asked her what she gets from Amway that she wasn’t getting in our friendship. She brought up hanging around successful people & I asked her what success means to her & she said following her passions. I asked her if she thought I didn’t follow mine (because I do). I asked her if she thought I was unsuccessful.

I asked her if she had any idea how hurtful it’s been to be penciled in & put on the side. She got defensive & said “I’m done with this!” & left. I said “you will always be my best friend & I will always be here for you.” We haven’t spoken since.

Amway isolates people who aren’t in Amway. Amway encourages its IBO’s to break it off with anyone who is ‘negative’ (i.e. anyone who isn’t in Amway), Amway says those “negative people are close-minded” when in fact Amway is close-minded to anyone who doesn’t believe in “their way to success.” If you’re not making money for your upline, Amway doesn’t give a shit about you. Amway positively reinforces those who are selling & who are remaining active by buying or selling products--if you’re slacking (i.e. missing meetings/conferences or not meeting sales, they will bully & manipulate you to feel less than).

To my best friend who is in Amway: I know my best friend is still in there and I’m angry that Amway has brainwashed you. I am very hurt by this but will accept you in loving arms if Amway doesn’t work out the way it was sold to you.

 

 

Amway Preys On New Immigrants

The last time we ran the post about we didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there – one of our readers shared their story about new immigrants who got scammed into Amway. Yet another heartbreaking story about people who barely speak English and can’t afford to lose any money but believed the lies about all the money to be made in Scamway.

 

I have the sweetest neighbors from a South American country. The wife/mom doesn't speak English, and I speak a bare minimum of Spanish (but I've been practicing!).

Yesterday our kids were playing outside and she asked me if I would come over for a free facial. I have rosacea and I'm suuuuuuper picky about what I put on my face, so I declined. She was sweet and asked again (we had to use google translate). I wanted more spanish practice, and to feel neighborly, so I said yes.

My heart fell when she pulled out artistry products. I asked to see a list of ingredients and her husband pulled it up on his phone...a long list of chemicals and some of them I know I didn't want on my face. :( But mostly, seeing "Amway" made me want to throw up. My stomach was in knots. I've seen this destroy a family's finances.

I had a brief moment of thought this evening that maybe I'm biased and wrong. So I did an internet search and one of your posts was the top hit, confirming my gut feeling. My sweet immigrant neighbors are struggling to make it here and to bring their family here. Just a couple weeks ago my husband gave her a ride to a market where she could wire money to her mother. And I'm devastated that they have gotten sucked into this scheme. The language barrier makes it almost impossible for me to tell them straight up, but even if I spoke perfect Spanish I'm not sure where I would start. I'm praying for them, and I definitely will say no to future invitations that smell like Amway. :(

 

 

We Didn’t Go Through The Darkness Of Amway To Stay There

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We went through the darkness of Amway so that others can see the light.

There’s a big message to get out to people reading this who might be considering Amway because you’ve been prospected by an Ambot who got you in front of an Amway cult leader who’s one of the best closers when it comes to closing a sale. Maybe even suckered you to an Amway cult meeting. Did you get love bombed? That’s the fake nice stuff. Over the top interest in you. Hugging. Creepy cult shit.

The message? The most important thing to keep in mind if you’re considering joining the Amway cult?

Amway will only bring you financial and emotional distress.

We went through the darkness of Anway to help you see the light. This is so important we’ll say it again:

Amway will only bring you financial and emotional distress.

You will not get rich. You probably heard the Amway cult leader trying to give some legitimacy to their scam by saying Amway is not a get rich quick scheme.

Amway is also not a get rich slow scheme.

Amway is a not get rich EVER scheme.

The only people who get rich from Amway their last name is DeVos or VanAndel. If you want to get rich from Amway your best chance of doing so is to marry one of their heirs.

The other people who get rich (maybe) from Amway are the cult leaders. These are the people who started up their own cult sect like WWDB, BWW etc. These cult leaders mostly get rich from selling tickets to Ambots to come hear them speak. And what will they talk about? Just a bunch of motivational bullshit on how to be a dreamer. These Amway cult leaders want to sell you books and recordings of “motivational” messages. All of these are better known as the Amway tool scam.

Being inside Amway is being inside a dark place. Do you want to go through the darkness of Amway? Here’s what you have to look forward to: Anger. Despair. Always broke. Bankruptcy. Divorce. Lost jobs. Eviction. Foreclosure.

The dark side of Amway is nothing brings Ambots more happiness than destroying other people’s lives.

Going through the darkness of Amway means using your credit card to buy a bunch of useless Amway shit. Do not believe their lies and bullshit that the cult leaders feed you about how Amway will help you get out of debt. Amway will increase your debt. You have to buy 100PV of overpriced shitty Amway products every month to be eligible for a commission check. That’s spending around $300/month on a bunch of shit that you probably wouldn’t have bought in the first place from the grocery store like vitamins and energy drinks and water. And you’re using your credit card because this shit is bought on Amway’s online store. Here’s the stuff that the Amway asshole who signed you up didn’t tell you about. You’ll pile on more debt because you have to buy your $50 monthly membership to the Amway cult sect you got sucked into. Don’t forget you have to buy an outdated messaging system called Communikate for around $35 or $40/month. The Amway cult leaders get commission from that too. Ka ching ka ching to buy tickets to hear the Amway cult leaders talk. You’ll spend at least $500/month buy probably closer to $1000/month tithing the Great Amway God. Money you don’t have. Pull out that credit card and go further into debt.

Going through the darkness of Amway means getting brainwashed to believe stupid shit and lies about worshipping the Great Amway God and loving the fucking assholes in the Amway upline for no other reason than those dumb fucks signed up to Amway before you did.

Going through the darkness of Amway means watching your money slip out of your grasp as its taken away by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. It means helping those Amway motherfuckers reach their goals and dreams. Going through the darkness of Amway means those same fucking Amway assholes are destroying your goals and dreams.

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We didn’t put up with being abused by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline to stay inside that darkness of continued abuse in Amway. We went through the darkness of Amway to help you see the light.

Believers of the Great Amway God hate it that we talk about the darkness of Amway so that others can see the light. It comes down to the bottom line. Who wants to make money off you? Amway Ambots or Anna Banana? A scammer will lie to you to make money off you. Someone who went through the darkness of Amway so others can see the light does not make money. Someone who went through the darkness of Amway so others can see the light does not want to see more people get scammed out of their money. Who has more to lose by lying? Look at the bottom line? Who wants to make money from you. No one at marriedtoanambot is charging you a penny. Married To An Ambot is free. We went through the darkness of Amway so others can learn what it is really like in Amway - for free.

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We survived the darkness and lived to tell our true life horror stories. If you don’t want to go through the darkness of Amway stay away from evil Amway bastards. They’re only out to steal your money, steal your time and steal your brain cells.

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.