Beware Amway Big Brother

A blast from the past. This article first appeared about two months after marriedtoanambot blog began.

Anna Banana has caught the attention of someone from Ada, Michigan.

I make no secret that I do not like Amway’s shitty overpriced products. I need to get in a long line with that complaint.

Many bloggers focus on Amway’s scheme particularly how the tool business is the only way to really make money in Amway and you can only make decent money in Amway once you’ve walked over a lot of people to get to a level where you participate in tool sharing profits. That’s not my agenda.

If I have any issue with Amway other than their shitty overpriced products, its how they turn a blind eye to the abuses from higher level pins to their downline. I think Amway has a moral obligation to take better control of their representatives who are in the business of signing up IBO’s, finding customers to purchase Amway products, and holding meetings all under the guise of running their own Amway business.

My agenda is with Ambot’s upline, the assholes who brainwashed and abused him  and tried to tear us apart under the pretense of being highly religious people and Amway devotees. The upline assholes who cause emotional and financial distress. Corporate Amway does not get involved in individual lines of sponsorship and what they’re saying in Amway meetings. Complaints go nowhere. A standard letter saying they are looking into it or a brush off when you phone in and speak with a service rep aka the we-don’t-give-a-shit department.

That’s why people take up blogging and get the word out there what is really happening inside the LOS, Amway meetings, and how people are treated by their upline. Amway won’t do anything about it so the masses on the Internet educate others what they are in store for if they get involved with Amway.

My story is hardly original. It has been said so many times in very similar ways by others who write blogs, write books, appear on TV or radio shows.

So attention Ada, Michigan. Anna Banana can be bought. If you want me to stop telling what happened to my husband and how I had to watch him being treated by the upline assholes and ultimately how I was treated, I have a price. Pick a number between 10 and 20, the higher the better. Then put 6 zeros behind it.

 

The Fucking Amway Pants Don’t Fit!

Remember when Amway was selling clothes years ago?

I bought a swimsuit that was pretty decent so I can say that I actually bought one product that Amway sells that I did not hate. Hell, I liked that swimsuit enough that if Amway still sold them I might have bought another one.

Not the same story for a pair of pants that Ambot bought for me which I didn’t really want, but you know all the bullshit upline plugs into you about buy from your own store.... I rock a size 0 in skinny jeans but depending on the cut I could be up a size, so Ambot started with a size 6 pair of Amway pants which were the smallest size available. Just a regular looking pair of casual pants but nothing I would have bought if I’d seen them in the store. May have had a checker or houndstooth pattern to them. I tried them on. Couldn’t fasten them up, too tight in the waist. Ambot sent them back and exchanged for a size 8. Same problem. Too tight in the waist. Couldn’t fasten them. Ambot wants to exchange for the next size up. I tell him forget it. The pants aren’t that great anyway. But he doesn’t listen and one day he presents me with a size 10 pair of pants. I’m not happy but I try them on and like the other pairs they are exactly the same waist size as the other two smaller pairs - too tight and won’t fasten. I tell him there is obviously a problem with Amway’s clothing line. Normally when you buy larger clothing sizes they are, well larger, and a looser fit than the size down. If I put on a size 10 pair of normal pants they’d be sliding right off me. Shit! Right now in my closet I have two shorts that are size 2, the smallest size available when I was shopping. They both slide right off me so I have to wear a belt. 

Back to those shitty Amway pants. Every single one of these pants had the same waist size although as the sizes went up the hips and thighs were roomier.

Um, here’s a big clue Amway. When a clothing size number goes up, all dimensions have to change. You can’t leave the waist a tiny size and make the hips larger as the size numbers go higher. Perhaps this is why Amway is no longer in the business of selling clothing?

But Ambot is determined. He exchanges the pants again and presents me with a size 12. You guessed it, they were too small too. I thought that would be the end of it until he shows up with a size 14.

“Forget it!” I tell him. “I am not going to try those damn pants on again! It doesn’t matter what size you get they’ll never fit!”

And ladies you get this. Who wants to wear clothes that are up 10 sizes than what you normally wear? Like what the fuck!

Men clearly don’t get it when it comes to women’s clothing sizes.

Finally Ambot gets a clue that I am not going to wear a piece of clothing in the double digit sizes and gets a refund. And the fucking assholes in our Amway upline lose some bonus points.

 

Amway Is A Cult That Consumes All Your Money And Time

Spend $60,000 in Amway to make $2,000. Sounds about right to me. One of our readers talks about being inside the Amway cult and unable to get her brainwashed husband to understand ScAmway only brings financial and emotional distress. If this person is still reading Married To An Ambot – give us an update.

My husband was involved with Amway/Bww in the 90’s. He had a pretty large downline, but ended up quitting due to marriage issues. He later divorced.

We married in 2013 and he told me about this great opportunity he had been involved in. I had never heard of it, but he told me he had sponsored someone who went diamond. I said then why would you quit. He said it was the biggest mistake ever and that he wanted to get back in and build it with me.

Due to his excitement I was excited. Unfortunately he was at a work meeting at a hotel where a bww meeting was. Needless to say our ibo journey began. We were hard core. Attended EVERY meeting, did 50/150 ++ every month irregardless of our finances. We racked up credit card debt in the thousands of dollars and took out several loans. I propected everyday and showed the plan almost everyday for almost four years. All on the belief that sacrificing time and money now we would get more time and more money later.

I was told that our work ethic outdid 95% of the people in the business and we were sure to become diamonds. We reached 1000 pv. Half of that was mostly personal with a little customer volume. But we got paraded on stage like we did something fantastic.

Back in April I had to have surgery and did not go to function, did not read and listen to cds like a good little ibo. Things started to change in my mindset. I had realized how much time and money we wasted. Time away from out son and family. We had no longer went on family trips cause all our time and money went to meetings. I was so dedicated and believed the huge repeated lie of financial freedom. That was until I got away for a little while.

I finally added up all the money we spent and it was close to $60,000 in a four year period. That includes books, cds, functions, products, travel expences for stp every night, hotel, business materials, samples, etc. We got very very little return on our “investment.” We maybe made $2000 in those four years.

I have been reading a lot of blogs and information on cults over the past four months. Bww is by far a manipulative cult. I presented my husband with a bunch of research material, even though we are brainwashed not to do outside research because the internet is like a bathroom wall and anyone can write anything....as they say. He listened to me, said he can’t deny he had felt somewhat like there were tendencies of cult activities. We were great that day, then he wouldn’t talk to me for a week.

When he finally did talk to me he said I call bs. You can’t blame amway or bww for us spending the money we did. I haven’t done anything with the cult since. He still pays for bww bmp, streaming, and webspace. I refuse to waste anymore time or money. He did tell me a few weeks later that he was taking a break, but that if he is off work for the team meeting he was going. I said I am not. He hasn’t brought it up since.

Our upline platinum calls and texts him all the time. Their upline platinum lady has repeatedly tried to set up meetings with me. I think my husband still has hopes I will come around. It’s such a brainwashing cult to consume all your money and time. I’ve told him about all the blogs and he says oh yeah those are the quitters who didn’t work the business and now go on there and spew their hate because “the business didn’t work” he said no, “they just didn’t work the business” he doesn’t want to hear anything I have to say about all the research I’ve done and all my findings. Please someone help me. I need some advice? I refuse to let this scam ruin our life, marriage, family and finances any longer.

 

 

 

Ambots Deny Amway Is A Get Rich Quick Scheme

I can’t tell you how many times I heard our sack of shit Platinum say Amway is not a get rich quick scheme.

What he does NOT say is that Amway is also not a get rich slowly business.

Amway is a get rich NEVER kind of business. Except for a fraction of 1% of IBO’s who make money though unlikely to be the promised riches some Amway asshole from the stage tells you.

I heard every amount from $100,000 to $750,000 a year promised to us by Amway assholes from our sponsor to the Diamonds.

Lying bunch of bastards!

Ambots spend a lot of time denying that Amway is not a get rich scheme and not a pyramid scheme. Anyone who has to spend so much time denying something and arguing why its not - gotta have them canned Amspeak responses ready! - you know its gotta be exactly that otherwise why spend so much time in denial mode?

I’ve never heard anyone from McDonalds telling franchise owners that buying a restaurant is not a get rich quick scheme. Owning a McDonalds is kind of the same thing as owning a gold mine! Its always gonna make money. Likewise I’ve never heard anyone from McDonalds going around convincing the public that they are not a pryamid scheme and they are not a scam. They don’t need to spend time denying what they are not. They need to convince people what they are.

Legitimate businesses don’t need to spend an enternity denying anything. You don’t hear representatives from Dairy Queen going around convincing people that Blizzards taste great. Most people can figure that one out after a couple of spoonfuls.

I saw an interesting article on Yahoo that I wanted to share called How To Retire With $1 Million.

Of course the first thought that comes to mind is if you want to retire with any money, don’t fritter it away in the Amway scam!

Anyway its something to think of. People like us who are small business owners don’t have a pension to rely on so in our working years we have to figure out other investments to supplement our social security. That small amount coming in each month is all some people have. For others its just a regular amount coming in each month that can be counted on to show up and probably just covers monthly expenses depending on where you live. Its a lot more expensive to live in New York City than somewhere out in the boonies in Oklahoma. People like us need investments to bring in a steady income when we retire for the fun stuff. Or maybe the not so fun stuff when a major appliance needs to be replaced.

What we don’t need is some bullshit claim from the lying assholes in the Amway upline about the gazillions of dollars in residual income that will be rolling in forever in our golden years.

 

 

Amway Ambot Brags Billions To Be Made In Scamway!

I had an Amway ambot stop by and leave a comment on a post where there’s a link to the top 50 cosmetics companies. Ambots take a look and freak out when Amway Artistry isn’t on the list. That’s partially due to it being a closed market for sales. The majority of customers are Amway IBO’s and you have to be a member of the Amway buying club to purchase or know someone who is and buy from them. The rest of the world can buy their cosmetics in the stores where they’re more readily available. But so what. Here’s a comment that was left:

Who’s to say I am an Amway IBO? I came across this page whilst researching Artistry products and was disgusted at how rude somebody could be. Amway may not be your thing, it doesn’t mean it won’t work for anybody else. In fact, yesterday I was at dinner with my partner and a couple that have been a part of Amway for 25 years. Their income? Billions. Purely from Amway.


To which I responded something to the effect – Billions! Wow there’s Amway IBO’s who make more money than Oprah!

OK everyone have a good laugh now. 

Remember that Forbes list that had the billionaire families listed and how they got there. Whoever this multi-billionaire Amway salesperson is throwing dinner parties they failed to make that list. LOL! Ha ha ha!!!

Let’s start with where he – and yes probably it’s a he – says how do you know I’m an Amway IBO. Lets see. LIAR. That’s our big clue. How do you know when someone in Amway is lying? When their mouth is moving! Or in the case of the Internet – when they’re typing. The only people researching Artistry products are Amway ambots. Nobody else in the world gives a fuck about Amway cosmetics!

Let’s get to the good stuff! Amway IBO’s can earn billions!!! Wow! Holy fuck that number has gone WAAAAAAAYYYYY up from when we were in the Amway scam! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

What a dumb fuck! Well, what can you say, that pretty much sums up the Amway fleet. LIARS! Read it again: the dinner hosts income is BILLIONS – purely from Amway. A feat that even VanAndel and DeVos couldn’t pull off! LOL!!!!!

So according to the outraged scambot commenter there’s an Amway IBO running around out there who makes billions purely from Amway, has bypassed the DeVos family to become Amway billionaires, and the media engine at Amway isn’t blowing this out their asses so everyone in the world knows about it?

And is a billionaire going to invite some lowly IBO to dinner? That’s like giving someone a pity fuck!

So who are these mysterious Amway billionaires? The person who left the comment won’t say. And neither will Forbes! LOL!

Lets see. Lets chalk that up to yet another lie from another lying scamming Amway asshole.

These lying scamming Amway ambots continue to damage a company that already has a bad reputation. And make themselves look like assholes while doing it.

Yeah like we really can’t see through your lies. Amway billionaires!

Oprah, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg  – you all got in the wrong business! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!

 

You Ambots Better Bring Prospects to Amway Cult Meetings!

At every Amway meeting the sack of shit Platinum cult leader would ride all the IBO’s asses about being failures because we didn’t bring new prospects to the meetings. Well excuse us for not being able to find people open-minded to being ripped off!

Ambot spent hours each week trying to convince friends, family, and people he’d just met to come to an Amway cult meeting. Infrequently after a few hours of being hounded, someone would break down and agree to see the plan, but then they wouldn’t show up and spend weeks or months avoiding calls from Ambot.

I hadn’t been to an Amway meeting in months but when an acquaintance of Ambot’s failed to show up at our house and go with him to a meeting and wouldn’t answer his phone when Ambot called. Ambot begged me to accompany him so I gave in and for the first time in about 5 or 6 months I went to the Amway cult meeting.

I might add that this one of the last meetings Ambot attended. Yay!!!!

The infamous prayerfest for me to meet another man hadn’t happened yet.

Anyway, a meeting room had been booked at a local hotel and the upline sack of shit Amway Emerald was the speaker. We came in and found chairs. We watched the Platinum sack of shit circulate the room greeting people. He avoided saying hi to us even though he walked right past us a number of times seeing as how we’d chosen aisle seats. Snubbing us! Like I give a shit that someone I don’t like won’t talk to us. Oddly enough Ambot began to chuckle and I asked him what was so funny.

“He’s refusing to talk to us because I didn’t bring anyone to the meeting.”

That was the Amway cult leader’s way of punishing the downline. Refusal to acknowledge them. Ostracization. Punishment because we can’t bring people to ScAmway meetings who want to get ripped off.

I was cool with that. We don’t often get that lucky that the pompous sack of shit Amway fucktard doesn’t want to talk to us.

 

 

 

It’s Not AMWAY It’s World Wide Dream Builders!

A reader shares his story of trying to be a supportive boyfriend to his Ambot girlfriend:

Wow, I’ve been recruited by AMBOTS all my life when I was in my early teens and then early 20’s I checked it out., mostly at bookstores and coffee shops where they prey on people while they read all the educational Self help books their upline tells them to go out and buy. 

From my experience, the only people making money are the people who author the books they buy....and AMWAY corporate charging hundreds of dollars for their conferences and also $60 plus bucks a pop everytime they have a local 1 day thing. 

I am sooo in love with my Girl but she grew up not believing in herself (perfect target for amway) she’s now in her late 30’s and all of a sudden she started asking me questions about how id feel about certain companies...she was fishing. surely her soon to be upline told her to do this. 

But wait, there is more...it lead to me suspecting she was talking about Amway and I told her my true opinion...the one i list above. 

Well low and behold all was fine when she said but its not AMWAY its World Wide Dream Builders! 

I was suspect and when she started to go out late and “Coach” people all over town...then came the books and the “product” she said they “help” people and dont focus on selling a product....then all of a sudden came the little white bottles of everything from shampoo to face wash...then the little bottles of water etc (look way down in the corner of all packaging and what do you know....AMWAY logo). 

Next thing you know, they are telling her that she needs to be with a partner that supports her which i do...but theres more...the partner must support her in this “business” or she wont be successful. 

Here we go. 

Anyway I support her best I can without ever mentioning her “project” and I really really pray she is successful in this because I cant stand to see her hurt. But what I fear most is that she will separate from me, later fail and be without both me and her “WWDB” dream. But by them...it will be too late for both. 

Finally they go so far to seperate themselves from the rest of the world as to hold religious ceremonies or “felowship” at all of their meetings and conferences...I’ve got nothing against a religion I go to church myself....but not in my office building and it isn’t mandatory. 

All I can say is that being with someone that is in this company is like being with someone addicted to crack...i’ve actually know someone addicted to crack but not dated and yes....its really like that. If your relationship is new and the person gets involved with WWDB either get the out quick or you get out of the relationship quick you will be hurt. Its too late for me, I love her...you all SAVE YOURSELVES!

 UPDATE: 

On a later post the supportive boyfriend left a comment their relationship was over. She ended it because she didn’t see a future with someone not in “the business”. You can bet the fucking assholes in her Amway upline “counselled” her to do that because nothing brings those Amway WWDB bastards more happiness than destroying other people’s lives and relationships. But at least this fellow doesn’t have to put up with any more Amway bullshit.