In The Amway Cult Only Money Matters

A reader shares their story and some wise advice.

I was involved in Amway from May 2012 to March 2013. A friend invited me along to a monthly seminar and while I was overwhelmed with the terrible pop music, in-time clapping, positivity overload and promises of achieving my “dreams” and “goals”. Naively, I assumed my friend invited me for my benefit so I signed up that night.

I played ball for a few months (because I still had a shred of optimism), attended most of the functions (including three weekend conventions), bought stuff from the website, listened to the CDs and even hosted a house/launch party. I got put into a good team of normal people who all seemed supportive.

While some of friends knew it was a scam, I ignored them. Heading towards Christmas, reality finally hit. I lost my job momentarily in November and was limping by on my now meagre savings (thanks to all the money I’d spent on Amway). I was forced to look at the most important things to survive - pay rent and buy food – rather than wasting my time with Amway. Because of this reality check, I started to see through the feelgood bullshit of Amway. While they sell you on reaching your “dreams” and “goals”, the harsh reality is most of the money goes to the big guns: the Diamonds, the Oblongs, the Rectangles etc. Most of those who make it already have oodles of money and saving and don’t need Amway, they’re just being greedy.

Those who are students, low-income earners or who don’t have a secure income, Amway can be potentially damaging, spending money you don’t have on something you don’t need. In my time in Amway, I estimated I spent over $2,000 on various stuff and made less than $100. While I found the online shopping part convenient, it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to go down to your local supermarket and buy what you need. While I got my job back in late November, I immediately lost interest after the October conference (as I had to rebuild financially), I took until March to fully quit, mainly because my friend – who was now my “upline” – was away overseas and if I was going to quit, I wanted to do it face-to-face. In the ensuing months, I completely stopped activity: no more CDs, no more shopping, no more functions (I was always able to find a convenient excuse). When the March convention came around, I was upfront with my friend and he was fine with it. I left the convention on the Saturday afternoon and didn’t look back. It was a relief.

Looking back, Amway has had a negative effect on me emotionally. All the feelgood crap, false hope and focus on materialism made me cynical and bitter. Anytime people mention their “dreams” and “goals”, I roll my eyes dramatically. I’m nowhere near as optimistic about life as I was before I joined Amway. The worst part was, had I not been involved with Amway, my brief time out of work would have been more comfortable financially. Like most ‘get rich quick’ schemes, it relies on trickery and lots of materialistic, shallow rubbish. It’s basically saying “money is the only thing that matters.” I call shenanigans. Yes, money is great for peace of mind, but it doesn’t make you happy. If you want financial security, work hard, invest wisely and spend sensibly.

 

 

Fucking Assholes In Amway Upline Force You To Drive All Over The Fucking County

When we were in Amway and WWDB orders for overpriced shitty Amway products were placed on the Internet and delivered to our house. Our sack of shit Platinum would rant at us during Amway meetings that we had it lucky. When he started in Amway he had to drive a couple of towns away to pick up the Amway order from his upline and then he spent hours delivering it all over the place. He said when his car broke down he had to take the bus - and undoubtedly a few helpers - to carry all the boxes. So the sack of shit would go on and on and on about the shit he went through in Amway to get him where he was. Uh, lets see. Was he under the false impression that I actually cared?

Every week we had to order tools - CDs and books - the more the better of course from the point of view of the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. I have no idea how the Platinum sack of shit received them. All I know is the upline Eagle picked them up from Platinum’s house rather late at night when he got off work and then we met him at Dunkin Donuts around 10pm or 10:30 to pick up our order. The donut shop was about halfway between our house and the Platinum’s house. It was a central location for the Eagle’s downline to show up and pick up their tools because most of them lived within a 15 minute drive and the Eagle lived further out.

This went on for maybe a month. Then the Platinum heard about it. The fucking asshole went nutso! He screamed and shrieked and carried on as if someone had just committed murder! Holy shit it was amazing!

The Platinum ordered the Eagle to stop meeting downline at Dunkin Donuts. Who knows why? Maybe the fucker had shares in Krispy Kreme? He ordered all tools to be picked up at the Eagle’s house about an hour’s drive each way.

I was really pissed off. But then anytime that meddling sack of shit sticks his ass into anyone’s business it pisses me off. I pointed out to Ambot that this was really dumb. The Platinum sack of shit lives about a thirty minute drive from our house. The fucking Eagle is closer to an hour away depends on traffic which you would think would be lighter that time of night - NOT. It would be quicker for us to go to the Platinum’s house and pick up those shitty tools that I didn’t want in the first place. Because I knew Ambot was going to plug one of those damned CD’s into the car’s stereo and crank up the volume so it would be like listening to one of those fire and brimstone sermons from a tent church the whole drive home. Add to the fact that the Eagle didn’t get home - and here its important to point out that he still lived with mommy and daddy even though he’s in his mid 20’s - until at least 10:30 at night. So we’re driving all over the countryside for a couple of hours late at night when I’d rather be getting ready for bed. We’ve got customers to deal with in the morning. Real customers in our real business. Not pity customers helping us out buying Amway shit. What the fuck is Ambot thinking? I told him to cancel any further orders for tools. If we all stuck together and cancelled tool orders and refused to drive to the Eagle’s house to pick them up maybe we’d “get permission” to pick them up at a central location again. Like I had any chance of the other downline doing anything to disobey the Platinum.

Ambot had to be CORE and feed into the tool scam so his upline could get rich. He had to bust ass driving out of town late at night to pick up $10 worth of CD’s every week. It cost about that much in gas for a round trip drive. Not to mention our time. Why the hell didn’t he just wait another day to pick up the damned tools at the next night’s Amway meeting? After a few weeks Ambot had enough of the late night drives and he did pick up his CD’s and books from the Eagle the next time he saw him. They had to be sneaky about it though. You know - hiding them under their shirts!

And the point of this whole exercise? To teach us discipline. What? We’re in the armed forces maybe and that’s why we need discipline? We became responsible adults understanding discipline. Why the fuck do we need to keep learning about discipline because we’re in Amway?

Oh I forgot. The discipline thing is because we're in a cult. Its all about brainwashing the IBO’s and ordering them around to make sure they’re good little cult followers. Loyalty and obedience to the cult leader is the most important thing.

Like I really needed another reason to dislike the Platinum. Once again I send a big old fuck you out to that sack of shit.

 

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

 

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!

 

Another Lost Relationship Thanks To Amway

A reader shares their Amway horror story.

My best friend of 10 yrs is an ambot. She is secretly dating a guy in Amway, & tells us she doesn’t want their relationship to be official & out on Facebook as they don’t want to mix business & their relationship. After a month she told us she didn’t think Amway was for her, & we felt relieved. The next time we saw her, she told us she was back in Amway & her “passions were set on fire.” As her friend, I wanted to support her happiness & knew if I expressed any concern, she’d view it as me being a “negative” person.

My best friend is my maid of honor in my wedding (I’m engaged) & w/i a few months, I watched my best friend give up: her videography business, Bible study with us for Amway’s “church services”, working with a financial advisor for retirement as “Amway has a better financial plan,” a European trip she’d been planning for MONTHS because she “didn’t have time to travel,” & abandon our friendship for amway

My best friend texted me asking what I was doing the next day from 7:40-9:00pm. I told her I was free & she manipulatively invited me to an Amway event & expressed that I could benefit from hearing it & it would mean a lot to her. I responded saying I love & support her but no thank you, amway isn’t for me. She was upset & ignored me & when I asked if she’d gotten my previous text to talk, she she didn’t need to explain herself & that she was going to be busy in the next weeks so we couldn’t see each other.

At this point, I knew I had to express concern because a good friend would do that. Even if it meant it backfiring. We finally met up & after some small talk I said, “I think this deserved a conversation & so I wanted to share with you why I declined your invite to your Amway meeting.” I told her how my grandfather was in Amway & it was a big reason he & his wife got divorced. They were raising 5 kids & he was losing $ in amway. I also told her I did a lot of research on Amway & concluded based on those 2 things that it wasn’t for me, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support her & her happiness. She got offended. She compared me to one of her other friends saying this other friend would go to a meeting if she asked. She said she wanted me to go so I could understand where her priorities were focused & so I could ‘understand why we wouldn’t see each other that much’

She told me that I “just have to go to the meetings to understand why I’m not a priority” & I told her if someone asked about my business, my faith, etc that I could explain it to them in words for them to understand. She said “when I achieve my dream, I’m going to take my friends & family on exotic vacations all around the world!” I said, “so all the friends & family you made not important in your life are just going to all of a sudden go on vacation with you?”

I told her I missed her & feel that I’m losing my best friend (i’m sobbing at this point telling her this). I asked her what she gets from Amway that she wasn’t getting in our friendship. She brought up hanging around successful people & I asked her what success means to her & she said following her passions. I asked her if she thought I didn’t follow mine (because I do). I asked her if she thought I was unsuccessful.

I asked her if she had any idea how hurtful it’s been to be penciled in & put on the side. She got defensive & said “I’m done with this!” & left. I said “you will always be my best friend & I will always be here for you.” We haven’t spoken since.

Amway isolates people who aren’t in Amway. Amway encourages its IBO’s to break it off with anyone who is ‘negative’ (i.e. anyone who isn’t in Amway), Amway says those “negative people are close-minded” when in fact Amway is close-minded to anyone who doesn’t believe in “their way to success.” If you’re not making money for your upline, Amway doesn’t give a shit about you. Amway positively reinforces those who are selling & who are remaining active by buying or selling products--if you’re slacking (i.e. missing meetings/conferences or not meeting sales, they will bully & manipulate you to feel less than).

To my best friend who is in Amway: I know my best friend is still in there and I’m angry that Amway has brainwashed you. I am very hurt by this but will accept you in loving arms if Amway doesn’t work out the way it was sold to you.

 

 

Amway Preys On New Immigrants

The last time we ran the post about we didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there – one of our readers shared their story about new immigrants who got scammed into Amway. Yet another heartbreaking story about people who barely speak English and can’t afford to lose any money but believed the lies about all the money to be made in Scamway.

 

I have the sweetest neighbors from a South American country. The wife/mom doesn't speak English, and I speak a bare minimum of Spanish (but I've been practicing!).

Yesterday our kids were playing outside and she asked me if I would come over for a free facial. I have rosacea and I'm suuuuuuper picky about what I put on my face, so I declined. She was sweet and asked again (we had to use google translate). I wanted more spanish practice, and to feel neighborly, so I said yes.

My heart fell when she pulled out artistry products. I asked to see a list of ingredients and her husband pulled it up on his phone...a long list of chemicals and some of them I know I didn't want on my face. :( But mostly, seeing "Amway" made me want to throw up. My stomach was in knots. I've seen this destroy a family's finances.

I had a brief moment of thought this evening that maybe I'm biased and wrong. So I did an internet search and one of your posts was the top hit, confirming my gut feeling. My sweet immigrant neighbors are struggling to make it here and to bring their family here. Just a couple weeks ago my husband gave her a ride to a market where she could wire money to her mother. And I'm devastated that they have gotten sucked into this scheme. The language barrier makes it almost impossible for me to tell them straight up, but even if I spoke perfect Spanish I'm not sure where I would start. I'm praying for them, and I definitely will say no to future invitations that smell like Amway. :(

 

 

We Didn’t Go Through The Darkness Of Amway To Stay There

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We went through the darkness of Amway so that others can see the light.

There’s a big message to get out to people reading this who might be considering Amway because you’ve been prospected by an Ambot who got you in front of an Amway cult leader who’s one of the best closers when it comes to closing a sale. Maybe even suckered you to an Amway cult meeting. Did you get love bombed? That’s the fake nice stuff. Over the top interest in you. Hugging. Creepy cult shit.

The message? The most important thing to keep in mind if you’re considering joining the Amway cult?

Amway will only bring you financial and emotional distress.

We went through the darkness of Anway to help you see the light. This is so important we’ll say it again:

Amway will only bring you financial and emotional distress.

You will not get rich. You probably heard the Amway cult leader trying to give some legitimacy to their scam by saying Amway is not a get rich quick scheme.

Amway is also not a get rich slow scheme.

Amway is a not get rich EVER scheme.

The only people who get rich from Amway their last name is DeVos or VanAndel. If you want to get rich from Amway your best chance of doing so is to marry one of their heirs.

The other people who get rich (maybe) from Amway are the cult leaders. These are the people who started up their own cult sect like WWDB, BWW etc. These cult leaders mostly get rich from selling tickets to Ambots to come hear them speak. And what will they talk about? Just a bunch of motivational bullshit on how to be a dreamer. These Amway cult leaders want to sell you books and recordings of “motivational” messages. All of these are better known as the Amway tool scam.

Being inside Amway is being inside a dark place. Do you want to go through the darkness of Amway? Here’s what you have to look forward to: Anger. Despair. Always broke. Bankruptcy. Divorce. Lost jobs. Eviction. Foreclosure.

The dark side of Amway is nothing brings Ambots more happiness than destroying other people’s lives.

Going through the darkness of Amway means using your credit card to buy a bunch of useless Amway shit. Do not believe their lies and bullshit that the cult leaders feed you about how Amway will help you get out of debt. Amway will increase your debt. You have to buy 100PV of overpriced shitty Amway products every month to be eligible for a commission check. That’s spending around $300/month on a bunch of shit that you probably wouldn’t have bought in the first place from the grocery store like vitamins and energy drinks and water. And you’re using your credit card because this shit is bought on Amway’s online store. Here’s the stuff that the Amway asshole who signed you up didn’t tell you about. You’ll pile on more debt because you have to buy your $50 monthly membership to the Amway cult sect you got sucked into. Don’t forget you have to buy an outdated messaging system called Communikate for around $35 or $40/month. The Amway cult leaders get commission from that too. Ka ching ka ching to buy tickets to hear the Amway cult leaders talk. You’ll spend at least $500/month buy probably closer to $1000/month tithing the Great Amway God. Money you don’t have. Pull out that credit card and go further into debt.

Going through the darkness of Amway means getting brainwashed to believe stupid shit and lies about worshipping the Great Amway God and loving the fucking assholes in the Amway upline for no other reason than those dumb fucks signed up to Amway before you did.

Going through the darkness of Amway means watching your money slip out of your grasp as its taken away by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. It means helping those Amway motherfuckers reach their goals and dreams. Going through the darkness of Amway means those same fucking Amway assholes are destroying your goals and dreams.

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We didn’t put up with being abused by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline to stay inside that darkness of continued abuse in Amway. We went through the darkness of Amway to help you see the light.

Believers of the Great Amway God hate it that we talk about the darkness of Amway so that others can see the light. It comes down to the bottom line. Who wants to make money off you? Amway Ambots or Anna Banana? A scammer will lie to you to make money off you. Someone who went through the darkness of Amway so others can see the light does not make money. Someone who went through the darkness of Amway so others can see the light does not want to see more people get scammed out of their money. Who has more to lose by lying? Look at the bottom line? Who wants to make money from you. No one at marriedtoanambot is charging you a penny. Married To An Ambot is free. We went through the darkness of Amway so others can learn what it is really like in Amway - for free.

We didn’t go through the darkness of Amway to stay there. We survived the darkness and lived to tell our true life horror stories. If you don’t want to go through the darkness of Amway stay away from evil Amway bastards. They’re only out to steal your money, steal your time and steal your brain cells.

And one more time from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

 

Amway Best Friends For Nevermore

Amway was like an expensive social club for Ambot. He actually liked most of those people. He must have really liked their promises about always being his friend.

I wasn’t friends with any of these Amway losers prior to Ambot wanting to sign up. I knew the asshole sponsor because Ambot has known him for many years. He’s an unreliable, arrogant prick. Those are his finer qualities. It goes downhill from there. I haven’t liked him for many years. He’s always doing one thing or another to piss me off. Usually by borrowing something from Ambot and not returning it. Not showing up when he said he’d be there. Not answering his phone. He has all the qualities that Amway losers must possess. I can list off specific events over the years but I’m not going to turn this post into something that will takes hours to read. Suffice it to say I think everyone reading this blog has figured out a long time ago that I can’t stand the bastard.

I didn’t know anybody else prior to the Amway dark days. Most of them weren’t people I’d associate with anyway. We’re talking mostly males 20 years younger than me.

I don’t want them as friends so no big loss to me when the upline sends a command out to the downline that no one is to have anything more to do with us because we quit Amway. We are horrible people. We are losers. More specifically we are broke losers. Etc, etc.

Ambot has said he wishes he could have come back as a fly on the wall to listen to one of the Platinum’s rants after we left Amway. Oh well no big deal. I heard plenty of that sack of shit’s rants while we were still in.

I think the loss of their friendship did hurt Ambot. He really believed their lies that they would always be his friend. He failed to see that when people are driven by greed and you shut down their money supply by no longer purchasing expensive Amway products and tools, that they turn around and shut down their friendship. Fortunately these friendships were short lived. Damage was done by those upline assholes but we got out before anything was irreparable.

As far as I’m concerned real friends aren’t interested in you only for your money. Real friends don’t turn their back when you stop giving them money. Ambot understands this now. These fake Amway friends may have stroked his ego for a few months but they disappeared real fast when he wasn’t going to fund their dreams any more.

There was a fellow in our LOS that we ran into a few months later totally by chance at a gas station and Ambot went over to chat with him. He was polite and did chat while filling up but he did say “I’m not really supposed to be talking to you.” So that’s how we know the Platinum got the word out about us that we’re poison.

In that regard the Platinum did us a small favor by telling everyone not to associate with us. Except damn it that arrogant prick who sponsored us is still hanging around. Cocksucking bastard! Every now and then I complain to Ambot that he is disobeying the Platinum’s orders by speaking to him. Ambot tries to convince me it doesn’t count when none of us are in Amway anymore.

That’s just not fair!

And from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

Amway Product To Stop Sperm Leaking

This has got to be one of the more weirder search criteria that snagged an Amway ambot to this blog: “Amway product to stop sperm leaking”.

Oh you know women just hate that! LOL!!!

And women are probably going to find this topic a whole lot more funny than men!

Well I could go on and give my thoughts on this guy’s problem but I decided to make some sort of attempt of keeping this post reasonably clean.

And by clean I don’t mean my language. I mean clean in that I don’t really want to talk about male bodily functions! Men are gross enough as it is without me detailing the bathroom terms. All married women get this one!

Instead of asking the all knowledgeable expert assholes in his Amway upline - he hits the Internet. If I could keep a straight face I’d ask an ambot myself. In fact maybe I’ll save this little gem to ask the next Amway asshole who badgers me about the overpriced shitty product he sells what he’s flogging to make the sperm stop leaking. Be interesting to see what answer I get! Some rotten ambot is gonna be sorry he tried to prospect me!

Amway ambots are liars. They sell snake oil. For anything that ails you they will tell you they have an Amway product that will cure you or help you feel better.

If this ambot asks his upline to recommend an Amway product to stop the leaking sperm he will likely be told to buy Double X because its good for sex. In fact buy just about every Amway Nutrilite vitamin available for sell. Combined they’ll do the trick. He’ll be told to buy Perfect Water and buy those twist tubes to mix with the water. And drink lots of XS piss water and eat plenty of shitty Amway food bars.

Ka ching ka ching ka ching. Spend at least $1000 buying all these Amway snake oil products and see if it gets you the results you need.

And if they don’t work the upline will blame him that he’s doing something wrong. He’s not taking the product correctly. The old blame the victim scam.

For fuck’s sake guy! Talk to your doctor! Don’t go around buying shitty overpriced Amway products that ain’t gonna do piss all good for you!

But thanks for giving us an unusual topic post and a subject that I can embarrass the next ambot about!