It’s been a month so it’s about
time I got around to writing a post on the FTC slamming an historic fine
against Amway and two of their most evil abusive cult sects. We’ve chatted a
bit about it in the comments and this post will be a bit long with copy and
pastes from the judgement.
The fine is a jaw dropping $225
million! Happy dance! Happy dance! Amway gets fucked! Fuck Amway!
LOL IFOBF must have been
shitting his diapers when he heard about that LOL! As were many of the fat cats
at the top of the Amway pyramid.
It is with great pleasure that
I saw the Amway cult sect we were in getting named in the action. WWG aka World
Wide Group aka WWDB aka World Wide Dream Builders aka World Wide Destructive
Bastards. The other cult sect named in the suit is LTD aka Leadership Team
Development.
If you haven’t read it yet here
you go https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/09/ftc-takes-historic-action-against-multilevel-marketing-operator-amway-unfair-deceptive-business
As you know this blog is more
about cursing out the fucking assholes in the Amway upline and talking about what
those lying scamming vermin told us and what really happens at Amway meetings. We’re not so much about the business end
of things other than constantly reminding everyone that getting involved in
Amway is a really shitty idea. You can go to Joecool’s blog - see a link on the right side of the page in the blog list - to discuss more
about the business end of things and how this ruling will affect Amway and
their co-defendants. But it’s time. We gotta tackle some of this because of
course we’re just loving that Amway and their cult sects finally are being held
accountable for all the misery they’ve caused for decades.
“Amway and its affiliates
misled prospective workers with false earnings claims and then pressured them
to buy Amway products they were unlikely to be able to sell,” said Christopher
Mufarrige, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Today’s action
makes clear that the FTC will not tolerate any company deceiving
workers—whether through deceptive earnings claims or by promoting reports of
false sales to make direct selling or multilevel marketing opportunities look
appealing to consumers.”
Let’s chew on that for a bit.
What have we been saying all along? That Amway Ambots are liars. Lying about
how much money can be made in ScAmway and the fucking assholes in the Amway
upline using financial intimidation and pressure on Ambots to buy shitty
overpriced useless Amway products. We’ve talked about closets and garages
stuffed full of Amway shit that’s being stockpiled just to get the PV or BV up
there just so some fucker in the Amway upline can meet their month’s goals.
The complaint also alleges
that Amway, WWG and LTD deceive consumers in ways that make it difficult for
IBOs to make informed decisions, including:
- Falsely telling IBOs that they are likely to
earn substantial income, exceeding $40,000 a year, or that they are likely
to earn income that will replace their full-time job or allow them to
retire early, when most IBOs who joined WWG or LTD after 2020 spent more
money on Amway products and training than they received from Amway
- Falsely telling IBOs that they are likely to
recruit multiple IBOs into the business to help them succeed, when in fact
most consumers who joined Amway and WWG or LTD did not recruit multiple
participants
- Falsely telling IBOs that they are joining an
exclusive opportunity in which they will get access to mentoring from
highly successful leaders, when in fact the Amway opportunity is open to
any prospective IBO who follows the instructions of their recruiter, and
the “mentors” IBOs work with are typically not highly successful
I disagree about the year being
2020 and think the year could be pushed back easily as far as 1990 and probably
even earlier. But perhaps the ruling only could go back a set number of years
due to local laws. The order comes from Washington state where apparently WWG
is registered. Lying about earning $40,000/year is a bit on the lowball side.
We heard amounts between $50,000 to $100,00 at meetings run by our sack of shit
Platinum and up to $750,000 at meetings run by Diamonds. Earning bazillions of
dollars a month in residual income for the rest of your life after 2 to 5 years
in Amway working 10 to 15 hours a week is more like it.
Falsely telling IBOs that they can sign up many IBOs is a huge one. That’s on
the Amway propaganda and it looks on good on paper. Likewise any pyramid or
Ponzi scheme looks good on paper. But what’s the likelihood of carrying it out.
What’s the likelihood of finding 2 people for your downline? Let alone 6 or
more downline? It’s really hard finding people open to being scammed out of
their money. Especially since there is so much information about Amway online
written by victims. The small print on Amway’s propaganda says only a fraction
of 1% of all participants will make money each month. But who reads the small
print? And how many IBOs actually sign up one person to ScAmway let alone the
number of people the propaganda suggests is needed to make a few hundred bucks
a month.
And here’s the part that’s
going to be a real kick in the nuts for the highest Amway cult leaders who make
the bulk of their income from the Amway tool scam mostly by selling tickets to
brainwashing conferences.
In addition, the proposed
order requires Amway, WWG and LTD to change their practices, including as
follows:
- IBOs will be required to sell to others at least
70% of the products they purchase from Amway each month.
- Recruiters will receive substantially reduced
compensation if the IBOs they recruit buy products but do not resell them.
- IBOs will need to report all of their customer
sales promptly, including the actual sales price, and Amway will send
receipts to all of an IBO’s customers.
- Amway must terminate IBOs who fake sales or
teach others to do so.
- Amway’s sales records will be audited regularly
by an independent outside auditor.
- IBOs will be required to receive training on
these rules and others prior to being allowed to recruit.
- Amway must require approved providers, including
WWG and LTD, to not charge new IBOs for any training or services during
their first year.
I think we’re about to see a
lot of Ambots leaving Amway faster than usual. Like how is it possible to sell
70% of the overpriced Amway shit you buy every month to others? You know how we
were all taught to make up fake customers? That could be a problem based on the
above. But you know those lying scamming Amway bastards will still find a way
to get around this. But I like that an outside independent auditor is going to
be checking this.
Most Ambots quit Amway within a
few months when they realize they got scammed. There’s not many Ambots who will
make it to the one year mark when the cult leaders can now start charging them
for meetings, recordings, books and other “training” materials including ticket
sales where this supposed training is going on. You know. That golden nugget of
information that is dangled in front of you that is always going to be revealed
by the leader at the next Amway cult meeting.
I can’t tell you how many times
our sack of shit Platinum said if we didn’t buy the tools then he wouldn’t work
with us. And that’s been something Amway has had in their propaganda saying
that tools aren’t mandatory and that our upline is still required to work with
us and help us even if we don’t buy them. Yup just another fucking Amway lie.
Our sack of shit Platinum was all about giving the big old FUCK YOU to Amway
and its rules.
I read through the order which
is on PDF https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/Amway-StipulatedOrder-filed.pdf and one of the things I liked says the IBO is
not allowed to have a downline unless they have made 3 “real” customer sales
that can be verified and that they’ve completed training. I’m guessing the FTC
has ordered some kind of training over and above Amway University.
And although it’s too late for
any of us I LOVE this part especially since Amway has to pay for the
shipping. Aw gee no thanks you can keep the shit we don’t want to pay the shipping costs to get it back LOL:
Refunds for Participants and
Former Participants
1. Participants and former
Participants are entitled to a full refund of the cost,
including tax and any fees,
of any unopened and unsold products or any
currently marketable and
unsold products purchased while they were
Participants from Defendant
Amway Corp. within the previous twelve (12)
months. If Amway Corp.
requires, as part of its refund procedure, that
refundable products be
returned, Amway Corp. will pay for any shipping costs
associated with such return.
Defendants shall take effective steps to notify
Participants of both (a) the
right to return refundable products for a full refund
and (b) the mechanism(s) by
which Participants can return refundable
products for a full refund.
If Amway Corp. determines that a product is not
eligible for a refund after
it has been returned, Amway Corp. shall return the
product to the Participant
or former Participant upon request.
And this is pretty good what
Amway cult leaders and Ambots are not allowed to do:
Misrepresenting or assisting others in misrepresenting, expressly or by
implication:
1. The amount of sales
Participants have made or the payments, revenue,
income, earnings, or profits
Participants have received or obtained, including
by characterizing gross
payments received or obtained by Participants as
profits, net earnings, or
net income;
2. That Participants will or
are likely to achieve substantial sales, revenue,
earnings, income, or profit;
LOL! This is how Amway cult
leaders get the crowd fired up screaming about how much money there is to be
made in Amway and the dollar amount keeps going up the longer the liar on the
stage is talking.
Of course the thing I’ve been
wondering is how Amway and the two cult sects are going to split up how they pay
the $225 million. My guess is that only Amway can scrounge up that kind of
money either through selling assets or taking a loan. And then WWG and LTD
would have to repay Amway head office. But it’s broken down in the order.
Amway must pay $154,700,000.
WWG and LTD must each pay $39,780,000. Apparently all that money is sitting in
escrow so that tells us WWG and LTD are more profitable than we could have
imagined. There’s good money to be made scamming people. I thought for sure
those two cult sects would declare bankruptcy and leave Amway holding the bag
for the full amount.
So who’s doing the math? Add
them up = $234,260,000! Any amounts that ScAmway and their cult sects get
slammed with higher than the $225 million is excellent!
And you gotta love this one
separate from the above:
An additional judgment in
the amount of Twenty-Six Million Five Hundred
Twenty Thousand Dollars
($26,520,000) is entered in favor of the Commission against
Defendant Leadership Team
Development, Inc. and Defendant Amway Corp., jointly and
severally, as monetary
relief.
The cashola was ordered to be coughed up within 7 days! LOL! Love it!
The commission ain’t quite done
with these scammers:
An additional judgment in
the amount of Four Million Dollars ($4,000,000) is
entered in favor of
Washington State against Defendants. Pursuant to RCW 19.86.080,
Washington shall recover and
Defendants shall pay Washington the amount of $4,000,000 for
costs and reasonable
attorney’s fees incurred by Washington in pursuing this matter, for
monitoring and potential
enforcement of this Order.
Did everyone else get
$185,220,000 total judgement that Amway has to puke up?
And the commission just keeps
fucking Amway and their cult sects in the ass in case they have any ideas on
getting out of paying the money or getting it back again LOL!!
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that:
Defendants relinquish
dominion and all legal and equitable right, title, and interest
in all assets transferred
pursuant to this Order and may not seek the return of any assets.
The facts alleged in the
Complaint will be taken as true, without further proof, in
any subsequent civil
litigation by or on behalf of the Commission or the State, including in a
proceeding to enforce its
rights to any payment or monetary judgment pursuant to this Order,
such as a
nondischargeability complaint in any bankruptcy case.
Amway is also ordered to email
all participants in their scam since January 2021 letting them know about this
order so that they can receive compensation. That email template is on the last
page of the judgement and directs the participant how they can claim
compensation.
It’s too late for many of us
but at least more recent victims will get some financial relief. And to the
people who were dumb enough to sign up to ScAmway after 2021 – why the fuck
weren’t you doing your research and reading this blog first!
One thing this ruling has done
is make Amway responsible for the actions of their cult sects and what is being
said at Amway meetings. And it’s about fucking time! Previous to this ruling if
you phoned in to head office to complain – the response was that they’re not
responsible for what is said at Amway meetings! If Amway isn’t responsible for
what is said at Amway meetings – then who the fuck is?!!!! This order is making
Amway responsible and this is a fucking big victory!
Yeah! Happy dance! Happy dance!
Reading about this judgement is
such a huge victory for all of us who have taken the time to warn others to
stay the hell away from Amway and their army of ScAmbots unless they too want
to suffer the misery of being financially and emotionally abused by Amway’s
cult leaders.
Ever since the marriedtoanambot
blog has been up - Amway’s annual sales have been nearly slashed in half. Some of
Amway’s warehouses have shut down as have some of their other holdings. We are
making a difference and our work ain’t done yet. Not until this evil has been
wiped off the earth forever. And this ruling is a huge step in that direction.
Remember how Amway cult leaders
used to brag that Amway owned the stadium in Orlando? Until we got up some
articles here saying that the city owned it and the name for the arena was bid on and Amway won
paying $40 million dollars for 10 years. Currently it’s known as the Kia Center.
The bid and the number of years have not been publicly disclosed but for
reference Kia paid $52 million to put their name on the Los Angeles Forum for
10 years. If Amway couldn’t afford another $40 million or so to advertise on
the Orlando arena then let’s hope the $185+ million is really going to kick
them in the balls.
Is this $225 million judgement
the beginning of the end for Amway? Oh how we hope. It’s such a huge victory.
Amway has been fucking over victims for years leaving them in debt and
financial ruin, divorce, broken families, and bankruptcy.
Amway never takes
responsibility.
Amway is a blame the victim
scam.
And finally the FTC comes along
and slams Amway with an historic fine because of their refusal to take
responsibility and now Amway is the one getting fucked in the ass for a change.
And how sweet it is.
Fuck Amway and fuck their evil
army of Ambots!
And just wondering. Has anyone
noticed if Peter Island is up for sale to pay off this debt?
LOL! Happy dance! Happy dance!