My story of what its like to be married to an Amway cult follower. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. Feel free to join in or live vicariously!
Thursday, April 25, 2013
Amway Ambots Obsessed With “Broke”
12 comments:
Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!
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3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
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I think they talk about being broke because they know most about it. Ive nothing against amway. Anybody i know doing it gave up because it broke them or they saw it coming. Good luck to them. Their choice. Its the only business i know where you have to pay someone to work. I bet on amway people finding any non amway people who earn less than ibos do. Even the developing nations have earnings level of at least a few dollars a day. Very few amway ibos do better than that.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - very true. Also most ambots don't know the difference between being broke and being poor. Someone who owns real estate, nice cars, nice stuff might be broke due to life circumstances loss of job or medical issues but is not in as bad a state as someone in a similar situation who has no assets. Being broke is usually only a temporary problem but might take a long time to get life back on track.
DeleteAnonymousApril 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM Said
Delete"Ive nothing against amway."
You have already proffered at least three good reasons to be against the scourge of scAmway, thusly,
1-Anybody i know doing it gave up because it broke them or they saw it coming.
2-Its the only business i know where you have to pay someone to work.
3-Even the developing nations have earnings level of at least a few dollars a day. Very few amway ibos do better than that.
You have enough raison d'être to be against scAmway.
I first heard about Amway when I was in high school. I guess it was 1996/97 (Anna: it was in your beloved Tamil Nadu, India :-)). When I came to the states in 05, I was accosted by a 'friendly agent' who I subsequently learnt was part of the Amway system. I avoided his calls a few times and he quit calling me. Last week at a store, another stranger picked up a conversation. Having had the experience before, I realized he would be part of Amway or some other MLM organization. The icing on the cake was when we said 'love to keep in touch' despite having met me for the very first time. My apparent coldness (my wife said I never smiled) led to him not pestering me over my contact details. Truth is, I was thinking all along while talking to him as to how I would avoid giving my phone number if he asked. He claimed to work for the same organization I do and I found him on the intranet. Yup, it was Amway he belonged to. Despite my aversion, I must say I am quite impressed by their ability to pick up a conversation with complete strangers!
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, over the past week, my curiosity in Amway increased as I learnt about the way they converse and project themselves and the way they go about conducting/growing their 'business'. That is how I stepped onto this blog. I have nothing against Amway & I do not want to judge them but it surely is not my cup of tea. Having been through a number of blogs, Amway forums & Youtube videos (my wife calls me an Ambot of a different kind :-)), my observations are
1. Amway is like a political organization. People worship their 'uplines' and aggrandize them based on their earnings & 'material achievements'. This is quite strange in civilian life as this does not happen to coworkers in other professions who do well financially.
2. Amway like the entire financial system itself is a zero sum game. One person's gain is another's loss. However, the pyrmaid is too wide at the base and too narrow going towards the top. That is, too few make money and too much lose.
3. There is too much 'advertised' profit & money to be made. A car manufacturer does not tell its dealers that they can retire in 2-5 years selling cars. Amway's agents do.
I believe the biggest casualty an IBO can expect is friends/family. Finances can be built again (if one is lucky) but broken relationships & respect take a long time to heal and are never the same again.
I think you forgot to say money is only made by those sharing in tools profit. You cant make money from products alone no matter what level you are at. And of course the tools sharing is a closed circle. In fact amway is really a communist type system. The masses working for nothing for the few at the top.
DeleteHi Anonymous - thanks for stopping by with your story. You've got Amway figured out. You've done some research. Your wife will thank you for not putting you through this hell!
DeleteNo offense here, not trying to lump people in categories, just quoting our sack of shit Platinum who encouraged ambots to find immigrants. There'd be a few reasons like maybe they haven't heard of the Amway scam before and they tend to be hard workers who want to be successful in this land of opportunity. The only thing the Amway opportunity gives anyone is financial and emotional distress. Stay away!
At Amway meetings ambots are told how to approach strangers in the shops by showering them with fake compliments all under the guise of trying to get their contact information. Amway aside there's a lot of creeps out there and most people don't hand over their name and phone number to someone they met in the dairy section of Safeway.
Some people can never bounce back from their losses in Amway. It helps if you're young but theres stories on the Internet of seniors who wiped out their life savings thanks to Scamway and now are forced to go back to work in their 70s and 80s.
We strained a lot of relationships when we were in Scamway. Some recovered but one good friend still won't have nothing to do with us.
@Anonymous April 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM said
Delete"Despite my aversion, I must say I am quite impressed by their ability to pick up a conversation with complete strangers!"
Don't be impressed. These scambots sweat, twitch, over think and a freak before they open their mouths to talk to a stranger because it's not natural and they always think you will say NO! There's a lot of emphasis/training by the big wig charlatans to their adherents on how to cold contact-be cool, make it natural, etc.
Don't think too much about how not to give out your number. When requested be as direct as you can - "I don't care to keep in touch with you!" or "You might call me when I am enjoying my wife's comfort, No way!" Then watch their faces as the oozing fake confidence crumbles and they high tail outta there, then laugh loudly that they can hear you.
Probably next time have fun and dismiss their asses with a shuddering NO! to everything they say.
Make sure you read the free ebook Merchants of Deception by a former high level guy who decided truth was more important to him and risked a lot to write the book.
Here's the link
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/
Ths surly isnt ky place anna. But ive read your blog a lot and you've mentioned your Ambot's direct recruitor was a good friend of your ambot. It seems to be you hate him mainly for his role in reeling you into scamway. I dont know if this person is still in MLMs or what tue situation is, but I encourage you to see that he got scammed the same way you did. Maybe try rekindling one relationship. Dont let you shitty upline rob you of a friend, even if they used tyat friend to pull you in
DeleteAnonymous - I had several years of hating that bastard before Amway ever came along. He was never no friend of mine. I called him out for being a liar and cheater and scammer many years ago so creeps like him fit real well into Scamway.
DeleteThe above is called cold contacting. Ibos need to do this all the time if they want to build the business. Thats why its so difficult. Imagine if you approached everybody you physically see every minute of the day. What a way to live. Preditating on peole like sex offenders or robbers do.
ReplyDeleteThat's what ambots do - find victims to prey upon, usually those who can least afford to be financially and emotionally bankrupt. Sell the hope not the soap. What are your dreams? Amway can make them come true in 2 to 5 years.
DeleteAmbots interpret broke as an affliction that strikes only those not in scAmway because well they are not in scAmway. In reality these are the most brokest "bizz owners" you will ever meet, they just don't know they own that title. Ignorance is still bliss to them. Ain't it great!
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