Tuesday, October 20, 2015

The Gloves Come Off When Dealing With Amway Scammers

One of our readers is being harassed by his boss at work to sign up to the Amway scam:

Just wanted to stop by and say I really enjoy your blog! I've been reading it from start to finish, and I enjoy your candid commentary along with the horror stories other victims of Amway have shared.

My boss, of all people, brought me here. He doesn't know he brought me here. He doesn't know I know he's part of the Amway pyramid scheme. He thinks I'm easy prey; a new recruit ripe for brainwashing.

He's been subtly grooming me to become part of his scam, or "business opportunity" as he calls it.

The way he's doing it is devilishly sly, and had I not had a bad run-in with Primerica (another pyramid scheme), he may well have gotten me.

The subtle product placement - he always has an XS energy drink in plain view, or a bottle of his Perfect drinking water nearby. The Tip/Balance/Twist tests he performed when I questioned the claims of his miracle water. Boasts that he would be a millionaire within a decade. Mysterious meetings that required a suit and tie. Talks about how I could save money on household goods if I bought them from myself.

This all built up to a discussion one day after work, when he talked about an upcoming business meeting he was having with his partners. I asked for more info, but he said it was very secretive and he'd have to talk to his partners first.

The next day he said he'd talked to his partners, and that they thought I'd be a great candidate. Could I come to their next meeting, and did I own a suit?

Recalling my experience with Primerica, I wanted to know more about the business so I could research it a bit, and be able to make informed decisions. I asked what exactly this business was and if he had any literature on it.

In response, I was given a link to WWDB and asked to read testimonials by the Puryear and Duncan families.

Right then and there I knew something was very, very wrong. The whole testimonial was a bunch of feel-good ass kissing, along with these people rubbing their wealth in my face. I don't care how big your yacht is, I want facts and figures about your business. None of these testimonials provided any factual business information.

Frustrated by this secrecy, I Googled WWDB and the Puryears and the Duncans. This led me to Amway, and to countless horror stories of people whose lives have been ruined by it.

After much work, I did find the facts and figures I was searching for. And as I suspected, it was all a sham. These "Diamonds" at the top of the chain live a charade. They barely pull in six figures, most of which is from their tools/speeches (NOT the Amway business plan!). They put themselves in financial peril to fool their cult into thinking they're rich!

And if you're not that fraction of a percent on the top, you are losing money! You are bullied into buying junk you don't need, alienating friends and family, taking on debt, and told that success is right around the corner!!

No thank you. I'll keep my J.O.B. At the end of the day, I know I earned my paycheck and didn't have to sell my soul to get it.

So thank you very much for this blog! Your efforts, as well as the wealth of knowledge here, spared me a lot of pain and heartache. I'm so glad I was able to avoid going down the scAmway path.

When I speak to my boss again regarding his "business opportunity" I will politely say I'm not interested. If he persists, then the gloves come off.


  1. Good luck in keeping your Scamway boss at bay. But be careful! Amway fanatics can be as vicious as cornered scorpions when you reject their pie-in-the-sky proposals. They take it very personally.

  2. check to see what your companies HR has to say about the matter....they might not know boss is doing this and they take a dim view of such activities. They might even have policies against such workplace recruiting. Above all, document document document - dates, times, what was said where when etc and report but keep to the facts!

    1. Hi Anonymous - I think that's pretty much what I advised him too. Take it up with the higher ups in the company. Most companies take a dim view of their employees carrying on other business when they're on company time. "Business" is not what you could call Amway but certainly the assholes in the Amway upline expect you to be on call at all times and immediately respond to texts etc and to hell if you're working your J.O.B.

  3. It is legally actionable for an employer to put pressure on his employees for a financial commitment that is outside the requirements of their employment. This would include political contributions, unpaid work outside of regular time, the enforced purchase of goods, or compulsory membership in an external organization.

    If you are an employee, and your boss is trying to pressure you into joining the Amway fraud, you should lodge a complaint immediately with Human Resources, or with your boss's immediate superior.

    It's bad enough that Amway is a rip-off scheme. It's intolerable to have to put up with Amway propaganda at work.

  4. Complain about you boss to his supervisor, and get him fired. Then let's see how well he can live on his monthly PV.


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