Thursday, May 10, 2018

Amway Diet Scam – Trim, Body Key, Healthpointe…..


Liz says: I got talked into trying Amway's Healthpointe 2.0 program for weightloss. Stupid, stupid, stupid! They get you to buy the program ("You can't put a price on your health!") for about $80AU but I didn't realise how much it was really going to cost me until I went shopping for the basic recommended stuff and walked out of the Amway Business Centre with an extra $600 charge to my credit card. And that was just for 4 weeks supply (of a 6-8 week program), not including the meat, fruit, veggies and other groceries for the meals that you won't replace with a protein bar or protein drink. (Oh but I racked up a lot of PV's for it, much to the delight of my upline. BTW I only got like a $24 cheque back for all that, yay!)


As for the program itself, I was totally committed to making it work because it was so damned expensive! I could have paid a whole year's gym membership for that money. Unfortunately, despite all my determination (and all that money) I gained 5kg then lost 4kg of it over the 2 months on the program. I consider it a big fail... but lesson learnt.






We’ve touched on Amway’s diet plan a few times in the past, mostly to poke fun at the speakers on the stage who are walking advertisements Trim does not work so I thought I’d take a closer look at it. Amway changed the name to Body Key by Nutrilite. So call it any name you want. Amway’s diet/weight loss program seems to have the same success rate that Amway IBO’s who actually make money do – less than 1% success rate.

Ambot’s sponsor Captain Fuck Up claimed to be on Trim and was losing weight so Ambot decided to try it. Or more accurately, buy it but not try it. I found this Amway Trim Advantage binder way up high in the cupboard behind where I store spare cookie tins. I doubt Ambot ever opened it. It has several sections in there - Meal Plans, Recipes, Exercises. At the back is a CD. Like we need another fucking Amway CD! Its called the Trim Advantage Body System. Never opened. Can we get a refund? Unlikely. Into the garbage it goes, the best place for Amway shit unless its being flushed down the toilet but this was too big.

There’s an introduction letter at the front of the binder’s contents and then a commitment to optimal health “contract” that the IBO is supposed to sign. And here I say IBO because its unlikely that a person who was not an IBO would spend the hundreds of dollars needed to get going on the Trim Advantage diet plan. Cheaper to sign up with just about any other diet plan or gym and get personal support. What do you do with the contract after you sign it. Give it to your upline Platinum so he can mock you in board plan meetings if you’re not losing weight?

Right behind the commitment contract is a page titled “Plan Ahead” with the Amway products you need to stock up on. Nutrilite Vitamins:

CLA 500 - $80 (prices rounded to nearest dollar, prices have probably increased for everything listed here!)

ProDigest  - I can’t find it on Amway’s web site so I don’t know if the name changed or if the product was discontinued - last known cost $60.

Chromemate - As above, can’t find it - last known cost $45

Digestive Enzyme Complex - $50



Below that a paragraph that says “Keep Your Commitment - Stock Up on Favorites”:

Trim advantage Protein Bars

Chocolate Delight - $25

Mixed Berry Smoothie - $20

Nutrilite Protein Powder - $30



I looked on Amway’s website to find this binder thing that we have in the house and the big thing I discovered was that Amway has changed the name from Trim. The diet plan is now called Nutrilite Weight Management Program. I found their Better Balancer Program kit which I believe may be similar to what Ambot purchased a few years ago. It costs $250. I seem to recall Ambot paid over $200 for the system and in addition to this binder full of “important” information it included a box of food bars and meal replacement powdered drink.

So just to get started buying all of the above plus that binder and CD’s – over $500. Wow!

Now lets check out the Amway meal plan in the binder. The first few pages talk about dieting stuff that you can find for free in the library or on the Internet such as drink water, serve meals on smaller plates, choose low fat products when grocery shopping, etc.

Let’s look at Day 1 meal plan:

Breakfast: Trim Body System Berry Vanilla Shake. I won’t give the whole recipe but the Amway product needed to make it is Nutrilite Protein Powder ($30) which may have already been purchased if you followed the above rules and stocked up.

Snack: 1 bag Trim Advantage Crunch Zone Snack Chips. Can’t find it on their web page but if I recall correctly it came in a box and had 2 different flavors and cost around $60 and this was for like 10 bags of chips in each flavor – same size bags as you’d find in a vending machine. At this snack time you also get a cup of vegetable juice. Horror of horrors. You need to go to the grocery store for that one because they’re not slinging an Amway product.

Lunch: Apple and cheddar salad. There’s a recipe. No Amway products. Sucks to have to go to the grocery store again!

Snack - Trim Advantage Meal Replacement Bar - $25 for a box.

Dinner - Beef Stir Fry - there’s a recipe, no Amway products. 2/3 cup Uncle Ben’s instant whole grain brown rice,  1 cup skim milk.

That’s over $100 of Amway products to have on hand just for Day 1. I won’t bore you with the rest of the week. Does anyone wonder if Uncle Ben is getting a kick back from Uncle Dickie?

Does anyone else see a problem here besides the cost? What about at least 5 fruits and vegetables a day? Let’s throw that out the window, though there is about 3 servings in their recipes for lunch and dinner. Oh wait. What the hell do you need to eat fruit and vegetables for? Amway has a vitamin for that. $40.

Obviously this is a ploy by Amway to sell more overpriced products to IBO’s who feel they need to lose weight.

Amway is hardly the only company out there to flog a scam diet system using their products that customers have to buy.

There are lots of diet programs out there ranging from fees to use the program to purchasing the program’s meals and supplements. It looks like Amway’s plan is the most expensive for what you get. It offers no support, no individual counselling (ha ha counsel with upline!), no discussion forums, nothing. Just pay your money, buy the overpriced shit, and hope for the best.

Yup just another scam diet program run by scammers.

Lesson learned here? The only thing you’ll lose on the Amway diet plan is your  money.



18 comments:

  1. The fact that Amway keeps on changing the names of its dietary products is a big red flag.

    Why change from "Trim" to "Nutrilite Weight Management Program?" The only purpose here is to confuse the buyer, and to make him think that he's getting something different from what he bought before.

    Amway's entire purpose isn't health or weight loss at all! The purpose is to move as much generic and ineffective shit as possible, and to stick your down-line with it.

    The other red flag is that all of this junk comes with a ton of printed material and directions. What a scam! The ton of paper is to make silly people think that all of this Amway crap is "scientific" and "well-researched" and "backed up by doctors."

    It isn't at all. Amway dietary products are just cheap, crappy, overpriced generic shit.

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    1. Anonymous - that's right. Big red flags whether its changing the name of their company or their diet plan. Just to trick people into thinking it's a different company or a different diet plan and things have changed.

      I mean how many times does Jenny Craig change her name?

      Not only are Amway dietary products cheap crappy overpriced generic shit I'd say they're also substandard shit.

      At least more reputable diet companies offer frozen food or other types of real food instead of vitamins and supplements and provide group or individual support sessions.

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  2. I don't know if you have touched on this already, but the most disturbing thing I noticed was the dyes, yes DYES, in the X Energy drinks. I think it was Yellow number 5 and Sunset red number 7? Let me check I still have some in the house as a sore reminder...can't find them lol.
    I don't need to elaborate on the health detriments of food dyes. A quick google search will inform whoever wants to know. And you are suggested to take these drinks everyday..."doctor I have my daily intake of Vitamin C, D, A, E...and also my daily doses of Red Number 40 and Sunset FCF Number 6".

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    1. I didn't research on google, but if you don't mind can you tell me what food color dyes do to the body? probably one of the reasons why I didn't finish the entire content in the drink which is a good thing....I just couldn't finish it. More reason to come back and read from this blog.

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    2. Ahh...nvm thank you.

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    3. Hi Anonymous. There's a post we sometimes put up here about a review on XS Energy drinks by a scientist who breaks down the contents. Of course the comments on that site by brainwashed Amway losers defending their beloved employer with all kinds of lies and even hurling racial insults at the writer make it worth a read.

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    4. Ad Hominem from Ambots too? it's only going to hurt their company. Can you also help me find that post? I would like to read it myself. Thank you.

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    5. Here you go

      http://energyfanatics.com/2008/03/02/xs-energy-drink-flavors/

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  3. changing names too!? -sigh- no wondered why my cousin looks similar to his previous years. If you eat normal food with the Amway products it's going to work!! not... try eating any healthy food without anything Amway in it and it's going to work (if you're willing to work out) just like my other cousin that doesn't get brainwashed by Amway, he's a large endomorph, bonus points he's just as logical as I am...These bots won't admit to anything factual outside of it...while my brainwashed cousin believe he's an endomorph, just wishful thinking that he is, but his body says otherwise that his frame isn't compatible to do so isn't going to cut it! still waiting to see those certificates and college degrees that my cousin think he's in UH!

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    1. Anonymous - changing names is all about Amway trickery.

      When you're an Amway Ambot and go to Amway University that means you now have certificates and degrees in any career you can imagine. Who'd have known you could have saved 100k in medical school and got your medical degree at Amway University for only a few thousand.

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    2. I'm sensing underground BS from the Amway thinking he's living an honest living...not. Gut instinct tells me one day they work with criminals idk

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    3. Anonymous - as far as I'm concerned everyone connected with Amway is a criminal.

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  4. Jenny Craig sounded like William Craig apologetic....do you also know the guy too Anna?

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  5. "Look at me" "yea?" "I'm the captain now!!" says the unhealthy slender like guy in a particular film. Amway reminds me of just that. Stupid lunatics thinking they're hot business owners when they clearly act as if they have been through struggles when genuine business owners have actually have to survive under poorer situations before and remain humble from the time they 1st start their own establishment. The way Ambots act as if they're entitled brats...oh wait they are! when you don't have business lenders aiding your work and you don't need to pay up a loan, then you have no resources to work with and you must improvise accordingly based by the facts at hand. I highly doubt any business owners that start from scratch would demean others if they actually were in a similar circumstance before.

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    1. Amway Ambots = stupid lunatics!

      Amway Ambots have this stupid sense of entitlement that just because they're in the Amway cult that means they're better than everyone else in the world and the rest of the world better jump to action when an Amway loser snaps his fingers.

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    2. Also believe we shouldn't get or deserve what we fortunately have until those ambots get their "reward" 1st when it comes to success. Anna, just give me a couple of phrases you know personally you think that sounded stupid from top uplines.

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    3. It's so easy anyone can do it.

      This isn't Amway.

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