Tuesday, July 16, 2019
Amway Won’t Let You Out And Won’t Refund Your Money? Shocker! LOL! Reality Check!
A searcher found their way to this blog with “Who do I complain to if Amway won’t let me out and refund my money.”
This gets a person thinking about other places where they shop. Do people ever go around complaining that Walmart, Sears, or Safeway won’t let them out? I mean there’s the door. Leave.
Well every now and then you hear about a customer that got locked inside a store, maybe they were in the restroom around closing time, and the staff left, locked up and the bathroom customer couldn’t get out. Can you imagine what a horrifying experience that would be someone to get locked into an Amway store with all those shitty overpriced Amway products? Holy fuck! But Amway doesn’t have retail stores because that wouldn’t work too good for their pyramid scheme and their member based (Independent Business Owners bullshit) buying club.
No one goes around complaining that a store won’t let them out unless there are some other kind of circumstances going on like a missing kid and the place gets locked down. In the rare instances where someone is physically unable to leave a store its usually only a temporary situation and they’ll eventually get out. I’m talking about normal circumstances where nothing is going on. You walk into a store, buy what you need and leave. So most people don’t go around saying Sears, Safeway, Costco, Walmart won’t let them out. These places aren’t holding them hostage. Can the same thing be said about Amway?
Why does this complaint come up over and over again with Amway? I’ve seen many similar searches that end up on this blog.
Why won’t Amway let you out?
Its like any other store. Just leave. Don’t go back. Don’t spend your money there. That’s how you get out of Amway. You’re not locked in or stuck in a physical location. Amway Ambots blow it out their asses all the time that they’re an Internet business. Unlike real stores they don’t have actual locations that you can walk inside and do your shopping.
Why do people even have to ask this question: why won’t Amway let me out? Its creepy. But then its Amway and everything Amway IS fucking creepy.
It probably has more to do with the fucking assholes in your Amway upline than the company itself. If you tell your Amway upline you’re quitting to begin with they’ll tell you stuff like: you can’t quit now, not when success is right around the corner. You’re about to go really big, I can feel it.
And when that doesn’t work the fucking assholes in your Amway upline will insult and humiliate you. Accuse you of not working hard enough. You’re a quitter. You’re a loser. You’ll be broke for the rest of your life. And all the other bullshit abuse you put up with from the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. And you’ll be the subject of rants from the Amway cult leaders at the next few meetings.
I still say its like any other store. Just stop going there. Stop buying their shitty overpriced products. That’s how you get out.
And then all the other things that go along with getting out of the Amway cult. Stop going to Scamway meetings. Cancelling your $50/month membership to your cult sect, cancelling Communikate, and quit listening to CD’s where some fucking Amway Diamond is brainwashing you. Stop hanging around fucked up brainwashed Amway assholes who devote their lives to spouting out lies in the form of bullshit Amspeak.
Some people compare quitting Amway to trying to get out of your Comcast contract. Getting out of Comcast is easier! Ha ha!
So who do you complain to if Amway won’t let you out? If you have a news station that features a consumer complaints section, start there. However its pretty fucking embarrassing letting it get out there that you got scammed into Amway so most people don’t want to call attention to themselves and have people say if that fucking loser is so stupid to get involved with Amway they deserve to get scammed out of their money. What about the BBB? Amway ambots love to violate their IBO agreement and brag about how the BBB kisses Amway’s ass they’re so happy to be affiliated with them. Complain to the BBB. Its hard to say if that will work. All a business has to do to keep their good standing with the BBB is pay their annual fee and respond to any complaints within the time limit set by the BBB. The business does not have to respond favorably to a customer’s complaint and fix the problem to the customer’s satisfaction. All they have to do is get a response in to the BBB before the time’s up.
Don’t even waste your time phoning into Amway’s customer service department aka the I-don’t-give-a-shit department.
Amway is like any other company if you refuse to pay their monthly or annual fees. Don’t pay and they’ll drop you.
Getting a refund is another story. Amway ambots will brag about their wonderful refund policy but very few have ever tried to put it in action. If you send back Amway products and get a refund your PV/BV goes down according to the value assigned to that product. Domino effect which means all the fucking assholes in your Amway upline are also going to see those points hit the shitter. And then you’ll have to put up with the verbal abuse from those bastards for doing a refund. But if you’re quitting Amway anyway why do you give a shit if those bastards are taking a nosedive on their PV/BV. You got to jump through hoops with Amway to get a refund so most people don’t bother. They’ll just throw the shitty overpriced product in the garbage and write off their loss.
Some could also say its easier to get a refund from Comcast than it is from Amway. LOL!!!!
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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!
If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
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Your Amway up-line does everything to keep you in the cult because you are a link in their money chain. If you leave, a significant part of their income dries up.
ReplyDeleteThe two-pronged method of convincing you to stay is 1) Flattery: "You're about to hit it big! You can't quit now! Your success is just around the corner!" and 2) Abuse: "You're just a loser! You'll be stuck in a J.O.B. for the rest of your rotten life! You don't have what it takes!"
If you want to get out of Amway, disregard both of these ploys. Just QUIT, cold turkey. Cancel all your orders, don't pay for CommuniKate, hang up on all phone calls that you get from your up-line, dump all Amway tapes and literature in the trash, and tell any Amway associates that you are no longer interested in being friends with them. You have to cut yourself off TOTALLY from the Amway octopus.
Don't even try to get refunds on what you have paid. Just chalk it up as lost money.
You want to REALLY hurt Amway? Come to a website like this, or any of the others, and tell readers in detail about all the terrible things that you experienced as an IBO. Name names! Tell us which LOS you were in, who your Platinum was, and what kind of crap they tried to tell you. Give us all the inside dirt that will embarrass the hell out of your up-line scum.
Hi Anonymous. Yup when you're an Amway Ambot and you signed up a downline you want to keep hold of them by whatever means or that income will dry up. That's a few lost pennies a month! The assholes in the Amway upline do exactly as you said. They start off encouraging and flattering and when that doesn't work then the insults and abuse begins.
DeleteQuit Amway cold turkey is what it takes but some of those Amway Ambots still try to connect months later and talk you into trying again. Those bastards just won't stay away!
It doesn't hurt to try to get a refund but you probably won't be successful. Ambots brag about Amway's wonderful refund policy but they probably haven't tried to get a refund. Those assholes in Amway's head office I-don't-give-a-shit department will find a million reasons why they're not going to issue you a refund.
Yeah I think there's a place on Reddit that trash talks Amway bastards.
WWBD 2019
ReplyDeleteCommunikate $36.95
WWBD App $84.95
Amway is all online and one orders directly from the website. Just like if you were to order from Target.
They got rid of CD's and all of the audios are done through the app. Also, they are getting rid of Dream Night due to the cost/ way too many cities so they are planning that for next year they will have a live stream and IBO's go to someones house to watch it.
If you haven't seen this couple yet, follow Ze, Melody and Seven on youtube. They have been doing a series of videos against WWBD/Amway. One of them encourages folks to report WWBD to the FTC. Also, they mention/ask how many IBO's have REAL customers because it is illegal if they don't. All of a sudden there is a mass wave of trainings of how to get customers in the board plans and Kate.
My spouse still believes in the cult and as we have gone to the major functions, (yes, I still go because I refuse to let this be an argument between us), my spouse has noticed that they tell us to ONLY eat from our "store" but yet the platinums were buying pizza/soda at the venue. We also heard one of the platinums say that they don't pay for their regional/major function tickets after that level. How true that is I have no idea. We decided to look up one of the venues that the Diamond rents out for only their organization, if they choose the most expensive room for 5 hours that can seat 900 people and $15 a person, there is still a profit of about 4 grand after the total costs of the venue. Who gets that 4 grand?
Hi Anonymous. It's just incredible what Amway cult leaders can brainwash Ambots to do. Communikate is still around and jesus anyone with a smart phone has the same capabilities. But these Amway fuckers show up here and either deny that Communikate is still used by the Amway cult or that "Kate" is their personal assistant. LOL! Yeah bring me a soda Kate! It's just part of the Amway tool scam where Diamonds get a good chunk of the proceeds. Also one or both of Amway's owners are involved with Communikate. They either are part owners or loaned money to the creators therefore they have a huge interest in getting their money back from this business venture and can crack the whip on their cult sects to force Ambots to subscribe to this service.
DeleteI've been thinking we should profile some of Ze, Melody and Sevens stuff on Youtube. Although it's good to report WWDB and Amway to the police, the FTC and everywhere else you can think of very few people do it. First its really fucking embarrassing to admit you got scammed. The Ambot was probably recruited by someone they like and trust and may still be connected to like someone in their family or someone they work with and they don't want to cause trouble for that person. Ambots brainwashing is very complete inside the Amway cult when it comes to being a blame the victim scam. These guys really think that they didn't work hard enough or that they're losers so that's why they didn't make money in Amway. They think it's their fault they didn't succeed and that there's no point in reporting Scamway.
I hear you on going to functions to avoid an argument but I also went to keep an eye on things and our money. With my influence we could usually book hotels away from where the other Ambots were staying. So long night owls! Also I could keep track of the spending. Ambot would be more than likely to pull out a credit card and buy dinner for everyone else if I wasn't around. I could almost always persuade him to ditch the others and have a quiet meal with me at a restaurant I choose.
We've broken down the costs of WWDB renting these hotel meeting rooms and we estimate for Dream Night for example the Diamond/WWDB makes a profit of more than $50 person for each ticket sold. We estimate depending on the function and how many other Diamond cult leaders are splitting greed pie, the profit per Diamond is 5 to 10 thousand dollars each time they show up to entertain and insult the Ambots for a couple of hours.
If WWDB is getting rid of the Dream Night function, then you know something big is going on. These functions are at the heart of every LOS racket -- so much so that the Amway flack Dave Severn insisted (in his propaganda shpiel "Pigs Don't Know That Pigs Stink") that you had to attend ALL FUNCTIONS, ALL THE TIME, NO MATTER WHAT! You could have no success in Amway if you missed a single one. And you had to bring your wife! No excuses!
ReplyDeleteOf course, as an Executive Diamond, Severn got a big cut from the attendance fees at these functions. Naturally he wanted everybody to come and pay up.
But if WWDB is ending a function, it means that the low attendance at these functions is starting to become embarrassing. But make no mistake -- even if the function speeches are live-streamed to some IBO's house, every Ambot who attends will have to pay a fee. WWDB won't give up that lucrative racket.
I agree Anonymous. Even if Dream Night is changing to a live function webinar thing you can bet each attendee in the living room is buying a ticket. But here's the kicker. If the Amway cult leader is charging on a pay per view basis, say $75 to log onto the webinar - what's to stop the guy who is hosting in his house to make all the Ambots in attendance pay a fee to cover his costs. If the guy paying for the webinar charges everyone who shows up $75 each he makes his money back by just having one guy show up. Even if he charges $25 each and orders everyone in the downline to pay up whether or not they show up at this house he's still making money assuming the cult leader has at least a couple of dozen people in their downline. You can bet there's still some kind of angle so as many Amway cult leaders as possible can get a good piece of greed pie. When we broke it down before we averaged a dining hall at a hotel that seats 500 costs the event organizer WWDB $15 to $20 per person that includes the meal service and room rental. They charge $75 for Dream Night tickets and profit is $50 or more for each Ambot who attends. So you'd think the WWDB cult leaders are still going to want to charge at least $50 per person for the webinar so they can make their money but how do they regulate exactly how many people are in the room watching? Amway Ambots are cheats and thieves they're not honest. They don't call it the Amway tool scam for nothing!
DeleteOh yes, I forgot to mention that they partnered with Facebook and created "Dream Stream" strictly for WWBD IBO's. It is just like Facebook but only WWBD members have access to it. At first, one was able to post on their own profile and see the crossline posts. I guess it got a bit out of hand that they created groups and one was only able to post ONLY on their upline platinum/ Diamond group that is private from the rest of the IBO's/groups. So if someone is in the Duncan organization they can no longer see what the Nguyen's organization is doing/posting.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - Ambots have to get permission from their Amway cult leader to talk to crossline so the Facebook group would have been harder for the cult leaders to moderate. That's what they mean when they say it got out of hand. Fraternizing with crossline is a huge NO in Amway. They don't want Ambots comparing the differences in brainwashing for their group.
DeleteMy God, what a goddamned cult! You're not allowed to talk with people who are in a different line, lest you find out something that Amway or the various LOS subsystems don't want you to find out. How secretive and mysterious!
ReplyDeleteAnd these Amway jerks think that they are in an honest and upright business, with leaders of integrity.
There's more honesty and integrity in the Colombian drug cartels.
Anonymous - that's pretty much it. The Amway cult leaders claim they have different types of teaching for their various cult sects so they don't want crossline sharing secret cult information. Like what the fuck. These very important teachings usually go along the lines of bitching about the clothes ambots are wearing.
DeleteThere are too many Ambots who have left comments here claiming the assholes in their Amway upline are honest moral people full of integrity. LOL LOL LOL!!!!! I think you got it right. There is more honesty and integrity in drug cartels than in Amway.
(Sorry for my English, I'm Italian)
ReplyDeleteIt seems I was lucky, I was kicked out from Scamway after a few weeks with a full refund.
The day after buying my first order, the one with the starter kit, I regretted it and phoned to stop the shipping. They blocked the order and refunded me.
At the time I didn't want to quit, I just needed that money back. Then I discovered that if you send back the starting kit, you are expelled, and you can only return after having spent a minimum amount (I don't remember how much, but it was high) in an order.
The things was not written in the regulation and this made me decide not to return... which I could not have done anyway, since I could not afford the minimum amount required.
Hi Lucetruce. Thanks for stopping by with your story. And you're very lucky to have dodged the Amway bullet before losing a lot of money. Interesting that ScAmway won't let you sign up again unless you pay more money. It's kind of like returning a dress to the store because you have buyer's remorse and you get a refund. Then a few days later you decide you really want that dress and go back to the store and they say oh no if you want to buy that dress now then the only way we'll sell it to you is if you also buy 2 pairs of shoes, a jacket, and 5 shirts. I can see those assholes at Amway trying to pull something like that off because they think their pyramid scheme is so great that everyone wants in and everyone will pay a premium to do so. LOL! Fuck Amway!
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