A question many female readers want to know the answer to when they visit the marriedtoanambot blog is – how long will it take until my ambot husband quits Amway?
I’d say my husband is average
when it comes to figuring out how long many IBO’s stick it out with Amway. Most
ambots will quit Amway somewhere between 6 months and a year. That can be an
eternity to a wife as she’s subjected to the abuse from upline, their attempts
to destroy the relationship, and the money going down the drain while the
upline badgers her husband to buy more products, attend all Amway meetings and
functions, and invest heavily into the Amway tool scam. Depends on how much
money they had in their savings account or how much room is available on his
credit card, the losses could be small in the hundreds of dollars or more
substantial in the thousands.
The time frame could vary too. I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that
there might be a small number of Amway cult leaders who don’t badly abuse their
downline and chastise them and insult them and try to destroy their
relationships. These slightly kinder cult leaders may have the power to keep
their ambots toeing the line for a longer period of time in order to suck more
money out of them.
Amway is a vicious cycle. It starts off with some fucking asshole sponsoring
your husband into Amway. Then he must go to two or three Amway meetings each
week generally held in someone’s living room or basement but might occasionally
be held in a hotel meeting room. There usually is no charge for the meetings
held at someone’s house but there will be a fee if the Amway meetings is at a
hotel. At least a couple of times a month a Diamond in need of a few thousand
in cash will show up to speak to the masses. Again could be a hotel meeting
room or maybe a school auditorium or similar venue. These cost $10 to attend.
And someone who got out of Scamway about a year or so ago said the cost of the
meetings are $15 so they might be a bit higher than that now too. About once a
month there will be a rally where new pins get to “walk across the stage” which
also costs $10 or more to attend and is held in an auditorium with a stage.
There has to be a stage otherwise those brainwashed ambots would be unable to
brag about “crossing the stage”. Also about once a month is some useless
product seminar probably held in a hotel meeting room where an Amway product is
showcased. Probably costs $25 to $50 to attend. So in an average month there
will be 10 to 20 Amway related meetings the ambot must attend.
If the ambot stops attending he will be chastised by the Platinum cult leader
who will be relentless in phone calls and text messages bullying the IBO until
he buckles down and starts attending again.
That’s why I call Amway a vicious cycle. Once the wife has hope - and remember
Amway is all about selling the hope! - that her husband is getting ready to
quit because he’s stopped attending all these damned Amway meetings, some
upline asshole badgers him and reminds him of his duties to the cult until he
breaks down and goes back and buys more Amway products.
Eventually the ambot will find the strength to stop and this will be difficult
because of all the love bombing the ambot actually might like some of these
Amway assholes. Quitting Amway means quitting all these new friends because no
one is allowed contact with former ambots. Quitting these new friends may be
hard for the brainwashed ambot because he’s been cut off from his former
friends for months now and he’s spent maybe 20 hours or more each week with
these new friends attending cult meetings. His priorities are screwed up over
who the real friends are. I’ve said it before - if friends are only interested
in you for your money then they’re not real friends at all.
Amway is a vicious cycle. Always on the lookout for its next victim. And not
discriminatory. Amway will recycle former victims of its cult. I know. Watched
Ambot been there done that.
Financial roller coaster. Emotional roller coaster. All I wanted is for this
terror park ride to end.
End the Amway cycle.
It will never really end until Amway is shut down and closes its doors forever.
Not everyone learns their lesson the first time around.
Amway is a vicious cycle.
You are so right. And I wanted to touch on two points.
ReplyDeleteOne is that the bullying is real. One night, my upline Emerald (URA) threw a fit because they didn't sell out their ticket allotment to the upcoming biannual seminar (twice a year, $15 a head, usually in high school or church auditoriums where an Emerald speaks). One night at a weekly meeting, he talked about cream and scum and how cream rises and scum settles. Talk about motivation to the majority of people there! Nothing like getting called scum when you just paid $5 to hear that at a weekly meeting! The insults are real and are not worth the time.
Secondly, when you are told to "not count costs" (because what business owners count costs, right?), that should be a huge red flag because you can lose thousands of dollars quick!
And one other thing, if you have to attend multiple meetings a week, then that is a red flag. We used to have a "team meeting" twice a year at $5 a head a week before a major conference. So we would have to attend that meeting on a Saturday night, phone team at your upline Platinum or Emerald on Sunday night, weekly business meeting on Tuesday night (which was moved from Thursday night) at $5 a head, and then a major conference on Friday, Saturday, Sunday conference at $93 a head (cheaper than most organizations) plus $60 to $300 or so for hotel and parking depending on if you wanted to get stuffed five or six to a room. And oh, after Sunday's session ends at around 4pm or so, you have to then head to your upline's for either games or dodgeball or phone team to hear even more speeches.
So that right there shows a typical week four times a year. Oh, and phone team on that Saturday at conference after you had your team's breakout session (because why not right?)
The moral is that the majority of people can make more money in one day of doing Uber or working a part-time job, than all-together in Amway with the money spent and the time wasted.
Oh, and don't forget. You can only have Ameay products to eat or drink at events and Heaven forbid your upline sees you at the hotel restaurant getting breakfast one morning.
I could go on and one but this is just a sample of four weeks a year at my former organization.
Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by with your story. Could have been right there in the room with you. It's all so familiar.
DeleteAmway cult leaders have a ton to learn about being moral boosters, positive reinforcement, and treating others with kindness. Hurling insults, mocking, and being assholes to their followers doesn't appear to be the type of motivating environment to increase sales and ensure future attendance at cult meetings.
And Amway Ambots don't get the irony of this blog. We're all about treating Amway cult followers the way they treat the rest of the world.
Most people could make more money working for one hour a month at a fast food joint than they can in a month of working the Amway scam. And that fast food joint doesn't charge the staff for showing up to work or for going to training sessions. The boss pays you. Unlike a scam where the worker bees pay the boss. What a racket!
What's amazing is that IBOs put up with all this abuse from their so-called "mentors." Why would a self-respecting freeborn American citizen tolerate this kind of bullshit from some Emerald asshole?
ReplyDeleteTell the guy to take his "ticket allotment" for the biannual URA seminar, and shove them up his rectum.
Anonymous - there lies the power of a cult leader. They go back and forth between abuse and love.
DeleteAnd the Ambots are so brainwashed - they take it. I can't tell you the number of times I told my husband to give me the phone when it was clear he was being chewed out by some fucking asshole in his Amway upline. There was nothing I'd love more than to give that bastard an earful. Probably why this blog ended up in existence. I can curse them out all I want now!
I remember paying for that seminar. That seminar was in December of 2017. It was while I was in line in November of 2017 on a Thursday night for the weekly meeting. My Upline Emerald (sponsor's sponsor who is different from the other guy I mentioned who was his sponsor's sponsor) had his wife go around selling tickets. I got out three-five dollar bills and I was straightening them out to give to her for the ticket.
DeleteFirst off, she yells at me and says, "YOU haven't gotten your ticket." I said, I know. I have money here. Let me straighten..." "I'LL do it." she says as she grabbed the money out of my hands and walked away.
That was the breaking point. Even though I attended the seminar in December and Winter Conference in January, I never spoke to her again. I never went to another weekly meeting after that. I went to two more functions (the seminar and the conference) and then I stopped coming.
It wasn't worth my time. It wasn't worth spending two hours in line to get into a meeting and then being fake nice for four hours before driving home. It wasn't worth buying stuff on the First of each month that I never used...that I still have piles of.
And then, in mid-2018; months after I stopped coming, I received texts from my Upline begging me to come to conference and then my Upline Emerald (whose wife grabbed the money out of my hand) saying how he missed me. I never responded to either.
I don't know how many hits you get a month Anna, but I hope someone sees this and does an about face. There are several ways to make money. This is not the way to make it.
Anonymous - thanks for sharing that story. Amway is the Cult of Greed and your Emerald's wife snatching five dollar bills out of your hand and screaming at you sounds like normal Amway upline behavior. Seen and heard it too!
DeleteThe fucking assholes in the Amway upline can't steal your money fast enough!
Most people reach a breaking point and they quit Amway because of it and its often because of upline abuse. Then you start to think that you're not making any money and it's next to impossible to sign up any suckers and you got scammed.
And yes for months the Amway assholes would phone and order us to buy tickets for the next cult meeting or buy more overpriced shitty products. For a couple more years one of those Amway assholes stopped by from time to time with reading material. My husband would take it and leave it on the table near the door. Never read no more of that shit from the Amway tool scam. When the Ambot returned to collect his book it would be near the door. They have a hard time realizing they've lost an income stream and they've lost control. Most ambots can deprogram themselves from the brainwashing after leaving the Amway cult.
People can always figure out a side gig to make a few bucks that'll be more profitable and less hassle than ScAmway.