Our sack of shit Amway Platinum ordered all “serious
business builders” to buy a Premier Membership to World Wide Dream Builders.
Cost is $49.95/month.
What does an IBO get from WWDB for this awesome “business” investment?
Mostly they get a portal web page. You have your own link and this is the web
address you give to any suckers to entice them to shop online at “your” store.
You can also slightly customize your web page. If you’re one of these weirdos
who likes XS Energy Drinks you can promote that on your portal page. I think
you can also put your name and phone number. And of course that would be hooked
up to Communikate. Add another $35/month for that messaging program which the
Platinum will also demand you purchase.
With this monthly membership you also got a discount on buying Amway books and
CDs from the recommended list. Now don’t get all excited its not a big
discount. Maybe a dollar or two off. Its cheaper to buy them used off
Craigslist or Ebay or even new from Amazon except you would be a very bad
little IBO trying to save money instead of buying from WWDB/Amway so your
upline can profit from these tools you’ve purchased.
At a meeting we attended our Emerald was talking about buying a website. I
believe he was skirting the issue of saying buying WWDB Premier membership
because he did say the website cost $50/month which coincidentally is a nickel
off the WWDB premier monthly membership and is the only tool that is flogged at
Amway meetings that includes a web page portal.
Then the Emerald said if you buy a website the money goes to Amway and World
Wide, not him.
He is probably partially correct and the money does not go to him. After all he
is only an Emerald. If you’ve read Eric Scheibeler’s book Merchants of
Deception he talks about income sharing from the profits of the Amway tool
scam. The Diamonds get the bulk of the profits from the tool scam. As an
Emerald he received around $900 for speaking at a seminar or function but they were
few and far between. I’m a little foggy on the details since its been a couple
of years since I read the book but I think he got a small discount on the tools
which he was able to sell to his downline at retail cost and he got the
profits.
I think it also came to light both in his book and from other Emeralds who’ve written
about their experiences on the Internet that they occasionally get a piece of
the pie from the Amway tool scam but that depends on the generosity of their
upline Diamond. Being the greedy bastards those Diamonds are, most do not share
in the profits from the tool scam with a lowly Emerald.
Scheibeler also said in his book that he was earning just over $35k/year from
Amway and that certainly was not the money he was expecting to earn at this
level with about 1000 downline beneath him. I watched a video on Youtube a
couple of years ago and a former Emerald said he earned about $2000 to
$3000/month from his Amway income. He also came to the realization that the
money just wasn’t there and there were more honest ways to make better money
than that and he also quit.
Around the time that Ambot finally agreed to leave Amway and was reading Merchants
of Deception - unknown to his upline of course they’d have been horrified!
- the sack of shit Platinum had sent out a message that the Emerald required a
fence built. He was asking who in the group knew someone who provided those
services. Ambot actually knows someone who owns a fencing company. Then Ambot
laughed and said the asshole only earns an Emerald income so he can’t afford to
hire someone to build a fence!
I think the Emerald managed to coerce an army of IBO slaves to come out and do
the work for free for the privilege of “being around the Emerald”. To add on to
his statement that the money doesn’t go to him, it doesn’t go to his downline
either!
Yeah! That’s a bargain! Free labor. You get what you pay for. I’m sure that
fence blew over in the first strong wind!
A couple of observations: Amway "store" is short for "storage closet" for stuff you have no use for, can't sell and just don't feel like taking out and making a trip to the local dump. Stuff like that broken tennis racket, that old artificial Christmas tree you never set up anymore or those boxes of Amway product you paid for that none of your friends want to buy or hear about any more for that matter. "discount" on buying "Amway books and CDs" from the recommended list. That sounds about as attractive a proposition as paying a "discount" price on buying a turd. Whoop de doo. Thanks but I'll pass.
ReplyDeleteRay - I wonder how long Ambots who quit ScAmway hang onto that shit for. I mean nobody wants it. Even though Amway losers brag about Amway's "refund" policy most have ever tried. Even Amway doesn't want their shit back. Some might try to unload Amway shit on eBay or Craigslist but no one else wants it either except possibly current Ambots but then they'd be in for an ass kicking from the Amway cult leader for buying it cheaper somewhere else instead of making the upline richer. And you're right about that discount price on a turd LOL! Pass!
DeleteWhen I was in URA, they had the "Arrow" program which kind of morphed over time. Basically, you needed to sponsor 12 with 20 at least 20 people on our $49 membership (there as a $39 option but Upline never pushed those of course) with 20 people "regularly coming to major events" such as $93 quarterly conferences and $15 bi-annual seminars. There would be a big Arrow ceremony at the big Diamond's estate where Upline would pass out $2 arrows which one could get at Hobby Lobby. But of course, it signified "much more" per them and that the qualifications for Arrow meant that you were a "business owner." Whatever.
ReplyDeleteAmazing how they would only push a $49 and above option up to an unlimited package of $89 or $99 (maybe it's more, I forgot) when people were already spending quite a bit anyways on weekly meetings and other things.
I did have a crossline buddy once who I think had made Q12 or was close to it at that time tell me that he had an IBO who wanted to still be signed up to Amway but didn't want to pay the monthly membership fee to be on the URA app (so pay the annual fee to Amway and have your own Amway account, IBO number, etc. but leave the team). He told me that you have to be on membership (in this case URA) in order to still keep your IBO number through Amway. Therefore, he had to make this person a customer. Good for the person in not having to pay the annual fee to Amway anymore to be an active IBO, but kind of a crappy way to go about it.
Does anyone know if this is true? That is...if you are signed up to Amway as an IBO (paying the annual membership dues) that you HAVE to be a part of an AMO and pay the active fees to be a part of that said AMO? If this is the case, then so much for being an "independent business owner."
Anonymous - LOL on sponsoring 12 people into Amway LOL! Most Ambots don't even sign up one person.
DeleteI guess Amway has arrangement with the cult leaders of all their cult sects that any new Ambots must join a cult sect instead of being a free agent.
Because it would make sense for anyone who's dumb enough to actually want to be an IBO but also doesn't want to spend a fortune sending money up the pyramid buying into the Amway tool scam.
I haven't seen an Amway commercial in awhile but the message was any prospects would have to find an Amway rep to get more info. And all Amway sales reps are in one of the cult sects.
What a scam!
In the early days of Amway (from 1959 to maybe 1975) there were no AMOs. Everything was done directly through the Amway Corporation by way of your immediate up-line.
ReplyDeleteAll this changed with the development of subsystems (lines of support, AMOs, whatever) that came into existence solely to make money by "teaching" people how to be in Amway.
The problem was, these AMOs had a totally different motivation for the entire business. Selling Amway products became purely a sideline for them. The main concern was the vast profits that could be made every year from "Tools" -- tapes, CDs, books, major functions, weekly meetings, CommuniKate, and above all else, the ongoing monthly and annual fees for just being a member of the AMO.
As a natural consequence, the emphasis changed from selling Amway products to recruiting new IBOs in your down-line. There was plenty of infighting in the Amway Corporation over this shift, but inevitably the AMO operators won.
Why? Because they were ruthless, aggressive, pushy go-getters who were adept at recruitment and at haranguing crowds of dumb people. Amway in Ada, Michigan realized that no matter what happened, these arrogant bastards would sign up thousands of IBOs whose monthly PV would certainly enrich Amway.
So the Amway bigshots kept their mouths shut, and let it happen. Every so often there's a policy dust-up between Ada, Michigan and elements of the AMOs, but Amway is careful to give them a lot of leeway.
This is why, if an IBO complains about his treatment to the higher-ups in Amway, he will simply be given the brush-off, or ignored. They dare not interfere in what the AMOs are doing. Why should they? The AMOs are making them rich.
You're right Anonymous. Amway is all about sell the hope not the soap. The Amway pyramid scheme is more focused on signing up new cult members than selling Amway shit.
DeleteYup when we complained to Amway about the fucking assholes in our Amway upline they didn't give a shit. Advice from head office? If you got a problem with your upline - talk it over with them. LOL! Yeah that gets you really far.
Me: you're fucking lying scamming asshole.
Amway upline: you need to listen to more tapes.