About 2
months after Facebook became live on the Internet a guy I know sent me a friend
request. I didn’t know what Facebook was so I left the email alone for awhile
and then one day I finally clicked on the link, accepted the friend request and
registered. He sent me a message saying he was happy I’d joined and almost
right away a couple other people I knew through him also sent me friend
requests. They already had many friends signed up and some of them sent me
friend requests too even though I didn’t actually know them I accepted the
request. In the beginning I thought it was weird that people who had never met
me in person wanted to be my friend. I joined a couple of groups - schools I
went to and organizations I was part of - and signed up people I really knew as
friends. I even sent friend requests to a few people I didn’t know but were
friends of friends. Still seems weird.
Facebook was kind of a good thing. I’ve reconnected with people I lost contact
with many years ago. I’ve also met some new people through various groups. I’m
not huge on Facebook but I check it and post photos and send messages to
friends and family. I’m not on there every hour changing my status or seeing
what my friends are doing but I’m on a few times a week. I can see why its also
known as Lamebook or Crackbook but fortunately I’m not that addicted.
Back in the early days of Facebook whenever somebody posted a comment on your
friend’s wall that would show up on your news feeds too. Actually get kind of
annoying seeing all these comments that people you don’t know have written on
other people’s walls and on and on it’d go. It hasn’t been like that in years.
There’s a woman who I’ve never met but we’re both members of the same online
group and have friends in common so we became Facebook friends but we don’t
interact all that much. One day I noticed some man had posted a comment to her
wall because it showed up in my news feed. The fellow’s photo showed him
dressed in a suit and he’d written a message to the effect of thank you for
accepting my friend request and I look forward to networking with you in the
future.
I thought that was a little weird for someone to say. When you get a new friend
on Facebook you write a little hello message and maybe compliment their photos.
But looking forward to networking with someone? Screams Amway all over it.
Ambot didn’t sign on to Facebook until after he joined Amway. The sack of shit
Platinum would bring it up mostly when he was talking about the name list
all IBO’s have to make of people they know. He said if you have 800 900 1000
friends on Facebook you can prospect them all as potential IBO’s or customers.
That seems creepy to me. I’d say if you have more than a couple of hundred
friends on Facebook you probably don’t know all of them personally. Using
Facebook to snipe friends for the sole purpose of being Amway prospects just
seems screwy to me.
But Ambot decides the Platinum might actually know something and spends all his
free time and there’s not much of that when you’re involved in Amway looking to
snipe new friends he can prospect into the Amway cult. He goes nutso signing up
“friends” and Facebook suspended his account. I believe there is a maximum
amount of “friends” you’re allowed to sign up daily and he exceeded it. He was
getting warning messages from Facebook saying he was approaching his daily
limit of friends and that he would get blocked if he didn’t stop. And then his
account got suspended! Ha! Did it not occur to Ambot that Facebook puts limits
in effect to stop people from spamming or signing up “friends” for business
purposes - like potential Amway prospects! Like Ambot is the first person
involved in an MLM who thought about using Facebook to prospect for recruits!
Its also possible that some of these unknown friends were complaining to
Facebook or maybe after a person gets enough declines on friend requests that
Facebook suspends them.
For all the effort Ambot put into signing up unknown people as Crackbook
friends and I’d have to say he got a couple of hundred he never got a single
one of them to an Amway meeting or purchase any products.
That would be over 99% failure rate recruiting Amway prospects on Facebook. Get
used to it. Amway has over 99% failure rate in making money at their scam too.
It sounds like Ambot believed everything that your Platinum told him.
ReplyDeleteYes Anonymous. And that's one of the scariest things about watching someone inside the Amway cult is the insane control the cult leaders have over the Ambots.
DeleteI have just finished reading Eric Scheibeler's, "Merchants of Deception." It was an interesting story if a little unbelievable in parts. It was hard to understand how someone could willingly put so many hours into a job over so many years, get a pittance in return and still keep going with it. I think at some point at the height of his success, he was massively in debt and earned something like 25,000. Logic should have kicked in years before surely? Anyway I have no doubt that the basics of his story are true which again raises the question of how this operation stays open. Most people are going to refuse to join. Of the small number who do join most will quit within the first few months. Only a very tiny minority will stay for years and if their return is so poor then how does the whole thing continue to exist year after year? If you are at the top of this scheme, wouldn't you change something in order to make it more likely you would keep the money coming in? Can you be a dishonest scammer as well as being so blind that you don't even take steps to keep the scheme going by giving a few crumbs to the people below you to ensure that they stay longer?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - the thing with Merchants of Deception is that I felt I was right there in the room with him. What he described is my experience too. Besides the inside knowledge of how the Amway tool scam works.
DeleteHe's not the first former Emerald to get the word out that they only make about $2,000 or so a month capping off at around $30,000/year at the highest earning level. That is certainly well below the much publized $100,000 a year that Emeralds are making. That's what's bragged about at Amway cult meetings. And when the Emerald asks why they're not making the promised income? The response is they're not working hard enough and never question upline.
All potential recruits to the Amway cult should read Merchants of Deception first. It's pounded in over and over that only a tiny fraction of 1% of all participants will make money in ScAmway. Anything with over 99% failure rate should be avoided. But that system designed for failure is not disclosed to Amway Ambots and nobody reads the small print but it is on Amway's brochures. Totally glossed over by the fucking assholes in the Amway upline.
To Anonymous at 11:55 PM --
ReplyDeleteTo answer your main question (why do people stay in Amway so long, even when they are losing money?), here's the answer:
Persons who are dedicated "core" Ambots are not driven by a financial motive. They are driven by an intense psychological compulsion to believe and to obey. Of course they are also hoping to get rich, but whether they make money or not, they are going to stick with the Amway racket. It's their hope, their dream, their self-definition. This pathological obsession is what keeps Amway alive.
Eric Scheibeler definitely suffered from this affliction, and that's why some parts of his book seem unbelievable. But ask Anna Banana about her husband, or the English guy Brear about his brother, and you'll see that it is true. Or just read the countless anecdotes that are in the archives here from former Amway IBOs.
Thanks Anonymous. Those are good insights. The people who stage cult interventions really don't seem to have figured out what drives Ambots to stay inside the Amway cult. That psychological compulsion is what all cult leaders use to their advantage and not just the Amway cult leaders.
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