At Amway meetings I attended
the speaker was very careful not to use the words “get rich quick”. Those
particular words make most people wary that’s it’s a scam. The old saying about
how if it sounds too good to be true comes to mind.
The Platinum or Diamond speaker avoids saying the actual words “get rich quick”
but everything else they say implies that a person will get rich in Amway
fairly quickly.
Take a popular phrase at Amway meetings “two to five years”. What can happen in
two to five years? Why - you can go Diamond of course! The Diamonds show all
these videos at Amway functions with mansions, sports cars, private jets, and
exotic vacations. The message is that in two to five years that’s the lifestyle
all the IBO’s in the audience will be living. Anyone remember that TV show
called “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous”? That’s the perception we’re getting
with the Diamond’s videos. That type of lifestyle. The people that Robin Leach
was interviewing were earning millions of dollars a year to sustain that
lifestyle. The same lifestyle that Amway Diamonds show that they’re living even
though Amway literature says average Diamond income is about $150K/year. Its
not easy to lead a multi millionaire lifestyle on a low 6 figure income. Its a
lot cheaper to rent a house, cars, airplane, etc for a few days for a movie
shoot than to actually own the stuff. I have no way of verifying one way or the
other that the things the Diamonds are jumping all over in their videos are
actually owned and fully paid for by them or staged for the video.
Is two to five years a long time? Or is that a reasonably quick time to be
earning millions of dollars a year?
OK I’m going to pick on Nicolas Cage here. And not in a mean way. Only because
he’s been in the news. I like him as an actor. I’ve seen a lot of his movies.
“Gone in Sixty Seconds” he made $20 million dollars. The “National Treasure”
movies he made $20 million each. Here’s a guy who works lets say maybe a year
on a movie and he earns millions of dollars. That sounds pretty “get rich
quick” to me. On the other hand this man has lost 2 homes - probably mansions -
in New Orleans to foreclosure and his Las Vegas home to foreclosure. He’s
having all kinds of money problems. He can’t even sustain an Amway Diamond
lifestyle and he earns millions of dollars a year more than those Diamonds. I
think Nicolas Cage better make another National Treasure sequel before he gets
prospected by some Amway IBO!
Our sack of shit Platinum says if you are CORE then in 6 months you’ll be earning
more than $75,000/year, usually the numbers went up the longer he talked so
$80,000 or $100,000 or $125,000 was tossed around a lot. Although that might
not be “rich”, 6 months is still a reasonably “quick” time to make $75k plus.
Our Platinum also said if you get 20 friends to buy $25/ month from Amway you’d
be earning $1000/month. Hunh? Let’s do the math. Amway is earning $500 from
those 20 friends spending $25 each. How the hell can the lowly commissioned
salesperson IBO earn $1000/month from that??? That sounds pretty good to me
too. Earning double what Amway takes in. Who wouldn’t want to jump on that
deal? Just more lies to scam in new prospects. Our Platinum claimed he worked
less than 10 hours a week and earned over $100K a year so that means he’s
another fucking lying Amway asshole or he’s including income from other sources
plus the shit pay from Amway. To a person working a cash register for minimum
wage 40 hours a week, I would say working 10 hours a week to earn $100 thousand
a year sounds like “get rich quick”. And its even lower than the Amway
threshold of 10 to 15 hours a week. Amway is all about juggling the numbers to
confuse people and scam them into the cult.
I realize its all about perception. Some people out there will think $75 or
$100 or $125 thousand a year is dog chow while someone else will think they’ve
hit pay dirt.
Perception. Illusions. Smoke and mirrors. Its all part of the Amway scheme.
I love the fact that you can sell $25 to 20 people which as you said is a thousand dollars (25 * 20). This computation is something most of us can do in our heads but most of also have a phone on our person at all times so you can easily get the phone to do the maths (math for the Yanks).
ReplyDeleteHow exactly is "sales" equal to "profits"? I get most people know nothing about accounting and accounting terms. You might not know what is meant by "Cost of Goods Sold" but in what world do you think that if you sell something it did not cost you anything at all. You have to pay Amway after all and more importantly you have to pay all those people in the hierarchy who outrank you including the jet-setting diamond. So that $1,000 of sales needs to be divided up between the Amway company, some set of people whose chain you are in and finally to you.
As you have so clearly pointed out this is an absurd statement. How these people make outrageous statements day in and day out with a straight face knowing that they are not making money. There is no one below them making any money. Even if it all worked and you could keep recruiting the system is utterly flawed. Why does anyone with even a few months of experience stay in these things?
Aussie HIllbilly - one of the requirements to be an Amway Ambot is no basic math skills. As you pointed out, people who still have a brain, and are not brainwashed, can do the math in the head. Amway Ambots are brainwashed by the Amway cult leaders to believe everything they say. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. If an Amway cult leader says it - Ambots must believe. That pretty much describes Amway. Believe!
DeleteSales does not equal profits. Sales less expenses equals profits. But Ambots do not have business sense and don't get that. That's the difference between being a real business owner and being an Amway pretend business owner. In the land of make believe they can pretend whatever they want to believe.
Seeing as how 95% of participants quit Amway within 2 years and most within the first few months - the question is how does that other 5% - the lifers - stay in ScAmway losing money every month.
That 5% stays in Amway by simply buying whatever amount of monthly Amway products are required to stay active and get a bonus. Most of the stuff is kept for "self-consumption," and just sits in their garages.
DeleteThey make no profit, or very little. They stay in Amway because they are BELIEVERS IN A RELIGION, and real-world facts don't matter to them.
You want to get rich in the Amway racket? Very simple: just manage to establish six legs of down-line, all of whom are dedicated BELIEVERS of this type, who will buy their monthly quota of products without question, and who might recruit some others underneath them who will do the same.
Anonymous - that sounds about right. And out of the 5% that remains is that other tiny percentage that actually makes money in Amway. Maybe not a lot of money depends how far up the pyramid they are. But they have to spend most of their time keeping those 6 legs of downline actively buying Amway shit and investing in the Amway tool scam. And riding their asses for not finding their own downlines that can do the same.
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