One of our readers has a horrible dilemma. It’s called dating an Amway loser.
Hi Anna,
I am in need of your guidance.
I've been seeing this guy for about 6 months now, and I was truly falling in love with him until this Amway business has been brought into the picture. I have know him for over a year now and he waited until about a month ago to bring up that he is a part of it. To start, the fact that it was treated as a 'secret' is already a red flag in the relationship, but I was actually the one who brought up wanting to meet his mentors because I had no idea what it is all about. I am the type of person who will always walk into the situation with an open mind, and go from there.
When meeting the mentors I thought it was all blue skies and rainbows, but they never actually talked about starting a vetting process. Now Ive met with them 4 times in a personal setting, and once in a group setting for one of their meeting. During this Im trying to stay very neutral and learn about what it is all about. Meanwhile his mentors are degrading me to my face and in front of my boyfriend in a way that I accepted it in the moment. When I pulled myself back to reality 3 seconds later I just became so infuriated internally. shorty after the meeting I texted my boyfriend my feeling about everything and some hard hitting questions. His reply was right out of the playbook and said "information is earned not passed around."
I'm not trying to toot my own horn but I am a confident, and secure person and I know where I stand about this.
I really thought that this was love until this happened, so I tried to talk to him about it. He said I can't stay a cheerleader forever and that I need to be on the path to excellence with him.
So here is my standpoint, I am all about personal growth, but truthfully I would much rather achieve that in a church group, or a women helping women club. When there is MLM involved I physically become ill, thats how much it stresses me out.
I don't know what I should do moving forward.
I feel like We have a real connection but this is driving a wedge between us. I
don't want to play it out too long just to delay broken hearts but if there is
a way to compromise I want to hear any input you may have.
Yours,
A very confused human
Anna Banana responds:
Dear very confused human,
I'm sorry about your situation.
I didn't quite get from your post if your boyfriend signed up to Amway since
you've been dating or if he's already been in for awhile before then. Doesn't
make a whole lot of difference except most Ambots quit within a few months. 95%
quit Amway within 2 years. Anything longer than that, then he's pretty much
devoted to being a lifer in this cult. The length of time he's been inside the
Amway cult might make a difference to you, whether you plan to wait him out or
not.
Sneaking around, being secretive, lying are all part of belonging to Amway and
probably the same as any other cult.
What you're getting from him are what we call canned Amspeak bullshit
propaganda. These Amway Ambots have an answer for just about everything.
I see from your comments that these Amway assholes are still calling themselves
"mentors". Yeah some mentor playing a make belief game of being a
business owner. There's a lot of pretending going on inside the Amway cult. The
mentor is probably some loser with a low income job that doesn't have a house
or investments or a real business or stuff that you might seek out a real
mentor for.
Here's your reality. The reality of every woman who is in a relationship with
an Amway Ambot.
A box of Amway soap will be more important to him than you.
The fucking assholes in his Amway upline will always be more important to him
than you.
Worshipping the Great Amway God will always be more important to him than you.
He is financially irresponsible. Any disposable income or money he can borrow
or put on his credit card will be used on Amway shit. He'll be broke all the
time.
Most importantly and this applies to any man whether he's in the Amway cult or
not. Do you really need a LIAR every day in your life?
Come on. Really you can do a whole lot better than a broke Amway loser who will
put a box of soap ahead of you.
My advice is to get out before you invest more time, money and emotions on an
Amway loser. You can always leave the door open and tell him if he leaves Amway
you'd be willing to talk to him again.
As we speak here, the fucking assholes in his Amway upline are already
counselling with him to end his relationship with you because they're
brainwashing him to believe you're a negative unchristian dreamstealer who's
holding him back from succeeding in Amway. Amway is a blame the victim scam.
Also nothing brings those bastards more happiness than destroying other
people's lives.
Good luck to you!
One of our readers offers the Coles Notes version of advice to the lovelorn:
Get rid of your boyfriend
Anna, your advice to this poor woman is right on target. From what she describes, this guy is a pure Amway freak -- totally committed to being a core cult member.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of a man would allow his possible fiancee to be abused verbally by a couple of stupid "mentors"? Why does she have to be interviewed and questioned by strangers from a goddamned soap-suds company? What the hell is the big "secret" about being in Amway, and why does she have to be kept in the dark about it all?
This woman should drop this guy immediately, like a hot potato. If she doesn't, there's nothing but grief ahead for her.
Anonymous - as we all know Amway only brings unhappiness and financial and emotional distress its victims. Whether they're participants in the pyramid scheme or in a relationship with an Ambot.
DeleteLife is too short to waste time and money on an Amway loser.