Thursday, March 27, 2025

Don’t Take Tax Advice From Amway Losers

Seeing as how Amway Ambots are doing searches for Amway tax refunds it’s a good time to talk about Amway tax evaders.

Nobody likes paying taxes, but something brainwashed Amway Ambots fail to understand is that paying taxes is a sign that you’re successful and profitable in your career. To sum it up simply, make two columns: income and expenses. Total them up. If the income total is higher than the expense total then yay business is going great. But oh shit you got to pay taxes on that income. But that’s a sign of success being profitable in your business. Then the reverse is that the column with the expenses total is higher than the income. Oops business isn’t going so good and for some businesses it takes awhile for the income to grow or maybe its been a bad business year. When you have more expenses that you can write off against your income then you’ll get a refund at tax time. Damn! Business is the shits.

Or if you’re a dumb fuck Amway Ambot you brag you’re getting a tax refund which is pretty much what is taught at Amway meetings that’s the secret to making money in Amway. You write off EVERY Amway expense yup all this shitty food bars and vitamins and the cat piss energy drinks and Communikate and books and tickets to functions and hotels against the income from your real job and you’ll get a refund. So that’s why you hear Amway Ambots lying about how business is going great and at the same time bragging about how they got a tax refund. Bunch of lying scamming fucking Amway assholes.

Uncle Sam disagrees that the only way for an Amway Ambot to make money at their scam is through a tax refund. AUDIT!!!! I mean the IRS has a whole handbook dedicated to Amway IBO’s for their staff to consult because the IRS has determined Amway is an expensive social club and the cult followers have no chance of making money selling soap and snake oil. And followers of the Great Amway God have a bad reputation with the IRS as tax cheats. Does the IRS have a whole handbook dedicated to McDonald’s employees or Chipotle staff? Unlikely because they’re probably not lying scamming tax cheats like Amway Ambots. What does that tell you. There are cases published online about how Ambots are getting audited through scamming on their taxes. And when you’re considering what expenses you can write off, Uncle Sam doesn’t count groceries and household supplies unless of course that’s the nature of your business like you run a restaurant or take in laundry for a living. And even those types of business are looking for ways to keep their costs down and wouldn’t buy overpriced shitty Amway products. So if you can stick it in your mouth and swallow it, don’t expense it on your taxes or you’ll be up shit creek.

I also want to say another scenario for legitimate business owners - not Amway scammers with their pretend business - is that you can get a good accountant and a good financial consultant and with the right investments and write offs you can bring your taxable income down as much as possible and pay less taxes. That’s mostly what real business owners worry about it. How they can pay less taxes.

The assholes in our Amway upline told us that everything to do with “the business” is tax deductible.

Our upline even said our dog food is tax deductible because our dog guards the house where we have Amway meetings.

Now does everyone remember how you can tell when an Amway Ambot is lying? …. Their mouth is moving!

We were told that all Amway products we buy are tax deductible. I seriously doubted that and so did our accountant whose services we use for our legitimate business. The upline made it sound like anything and everything about Amway products and tools is tax deductible and we’ll get our money back in the form of tax refunds and therefore its all free.

For some people this makes it easier to keep shelling out money if they’re given the hope that it will all be returned at the end of the year in the way of a tax refund. To hear upline tell it, this business, if nothing else, is a great tax shelter.

Uncle Sam might disagree.

This is a good example of why its not a good idea to take everything the assholes in the Amway upline says as gospel truth especially in areas that aren’t of their expertise. A person working a J.O.B. as an unskilled laborer or slinging burgers while walking the Amway path to financial freedom (LOL!) is probably not the best expert on what is and what is not a legitimate tax deduction especially if they've never hired the services of a professional accountant. You know an accountant who went to a real business school. Not some jackshit fucking Amway asshole who’s a pretend accountant because he got a degree at Amway University and that qualifies him to give pretend financial advice to dumb asses running pretend Amway businesses.

Fortunately Ambot took the counsel of our knowledgeable, experienced accountant instead of his upline when it came to acceptable tax deductions.

As our accountant tells it to us - save all receipts except for the grocery bills and they can write them off. That would disqualify anything edible/consumable that Amway sells as a tax write off.

That was contradictory advice from the assholes in our Amway upline. They told us to buy Amway drinks and food bars and vitamins because they have high PV/BV.

The same items our accountant tells us that we can not claim on our tax return because they fall under the grocery category.

Use your own judgement on this one. Fortunately Ambot did. Our upline were a bunch of scammers and liars as they shoved the Amway business opportunity down everyone's throats. I disregarded everything they said anyway and am sure glad I didn't listen to them try to scam us about legitimate tax deductions.

So the moral of the story is don’t take tax advice from a lying scamming fucking Amway asshole.

 

Wednesday, March 26, 2025

URA Loser With An Arrow

A former Amway Ambot who was in the URA cult sect dropped by to share some of the Arrow program:

 

When I was in URA, they had the "Arrow" program which kind of morphed over time. Basically, you needed to sponsor 12 with 20 at least 20 people on our $49 membership (there as a $39 option but Upline never pushed those of course) with 20 people "regularly coming to major events" such as $93 quarterly conferences and $15 bi-annual seminars. There would be a big Arrow ceremony at the big Diamond's estate where Upline would pass out $2 arrows which one could get at Hobby Lobby. But of course, it signified "much more" per them and that the qualifications for Arrow meant that you were a "business owner." Whatever.

Amazing how they would only push a $49 and above option up to an unlimited package of $89 or $99 (maybe it's more, I forgot) when people were already spending quite a bit anyways on weekly meetings and other things.

I did have a crossline buddy once who I think had made Q12 or was close to it at that time tell me that he had an IBO who wanted to still be signed up to Amway but didn't want to pay the monthly membership fee to be on the URA app (so pay the annual fee to Amway and have your own Amway account, IBO number, etc. but leave the team). He told me that you have to be on membership (in this case URA) in order to still keep your IBO number through Amway. Therefore, he had to make this person a customer. Good for the person in not having to pay the annual fee to Amway anymore to be an active IBO, but kind of a crappy way to go about it.

Does anyone know if this is true? That is...if you are signed up to Amway as an IBO (paying the annual membership dues) that you HAVE to be a part of an AMO and pay the active fees to be a part of that said AMO? If this is the case, then so much for being an "independent business owner."

 

 

Tuesday, March 25, 2025

The Money Doesn’t Go To Me

Our sack of shit Amway Platinum ordered all “serious business builders” to buy a Premier Membership to World Wide Dream Builders. Cost is $49.95/month.

What does an IBO get from WWDB for this awesome “business” investment?

Mostly they get a portal web page. You have your own link and this is the web address you give to any suckers to entice them to shop online at “your” store. You can also slightly customize your web page. If you’re one of these weirdos who likes XS Energy Drinks you can promote that on your portal page. I think you can also put your name and phone number. And of course that would be hooked up to Communikate. Add another $35/month for that messaging program which the Platinum will also demand you purchase.

With this monthly membership you also got a discount on buying Amway books and CDs from the recommended list. Now don’t get all excited its not a big discount. Maybe a dollar or two off. Its cheaper to buy them used off Craigslist or Ebay or even new from Amazon except you would be a very bad little IBO trying to save money instead of buying from WWDB/Amway so your upline can profit from these tools you’ve purchased. 

At a meeting we attended our Emerald was talking about buying a website. I believe he was skirting the issue of saying buying WWDB Premier membership because he did say the website cost $50/month which coincidentally is a nickel off the WWDB premier monthly membership and is the only tool that is flogged at Amway meetings that includes a web page portal.

Then the Emerald said if you buy a website the money goes to Amway and World Wide, not him.

He is probably partially correct and the money does not go to him. After all he is only an Emerald. If you’ve read Eric Scheibeler’s book Merchants of Deception he talks about income sharing from the profits of the Amway tool scam. The Diamonds get the bulk of the profits from the tool scam. As an Emerald he received around $900 for speaking at a seminar or function but they were few and far between. I’m a little foggy on the details since its been a couple of years since I read the book but I think he got a small discount on the tools which he was able to sell to his downline at retail cost and he got the profits.

I think it also came to light both in his book and from other Emeralds who’ve written about their experiences on the Internet that they occasionally get a piece of the pie from the Amway tool scam but that depends on the generosity of their upline Diamond. Being the greedy bastards those Diamonds are, most do not share in the profits from the tool scam with a lowly Emerald.

Scheibeler also said in his book that he was earning just over $35k/year from Amway and that certainly was not the money he was expecting to earn at this level with about 1000 downline beneath him. I watched a video on Youtube a couple of years ago and a former Emerald said he earned about $2000 to $3000/month from his Amway income. He also came to the realization that the money just wasn’t there and there were more honest ways to make better money than that and he also quit.

Around the time that Ambot finally agreed to leave Amway and was reading Merchants of Deception - unknown to his upline of course they’d have been horrified! - the sack of shit Platinum had sent out a message that the Emerald required a fence built. He was asking who in the group knew someone who provided those services. Ambot actually knows someone who owns a fencing company. Then Ambot laughed and said the asshole only earns an Emerald income so he can’t afford to hire someone to build a fence!

I think the Emerald managed to coerce an army of IBO slaves to come out and do the work for free for the privilege of “being around the Emerald”. To add on to his statement that the money doesn’t go to him, it doesn’t go to his downline either!

Yeah! That’s a bargain! Free labor. You get what you pay for. I’m sure that fence blew over in the first strong wind!