The Amway way to financial success is to self consume and buy from your own store!
Ambots are ALWAYS on the naughty list!
Monday, December 5, 2011
An Amway IBO's letter to Santa
The Amway way to financial success is to self consume and buy from your own store!
Ambots are ALWAYS on the naughty list!
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Cuz I would rather overpay then get free stuff. And IBOs call us losers.
ReplyDeleteIt's a very good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read that. Phew! I about lost it. ROFLMAO.
ReplyDeleteAnd when other people are sleeping, Anna, I have to be very quiet.
Sheesh.
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Ha ha! At least us losers don't have to check in with our upline on Christmas Day! And probably Santa is leaving us goodies!
ReplyDeleteCT - in my time zone Hawaii 5-0 hasn't even come on TV yet and everyone is still awake!
Anna - To add a more serious note, you have hit the nail on the head yet again.
ReplyDelete'Santa' is a benign deception. Unfortunately, in the hands of deranged adults whose intentions are not benign, this traditional game of Xmas make-believe can be used to abuse and exploit children.
To children who hold a self-gratifying, non-rational belief in 'Santa,' the truth (that they are actually being deceived by the people whom they instinctively trust and follow)is unthinkable. The imaginary character of 'Santa' can be used to modify children's behaviour - he has magical powers... he can see and hear everything children do at all times... he will reward children for good behaviour... he will punish them for dissent.
Although it seems impossible to casual observers, you and your readers know that we have essentially the same situation in 'Amway, with the Ambots' non-rational belief again being used to modify their behaviour, but, in this case, in order to abuse and exploit them.
Ambots are wid-eyed adults who have simply become incapable of facing the ego-destroying reality that they have been fooled by what is merely a game of make-believe.
If it wasn't for its tragic results, then the 'Amway' deception would be nothing more than a sick joke.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
Anna, you are right. Isn't it amazing the control we hand over to recruiters to dictate our lives?
ReplyDeleteSuddenly, a new ambot gets all gooey-eyed and can't help but fall down and worship his/her recruiter. Funny, his/her boss gives him/her a check every week, guaranteed, and he/she hates him/her; courtesy of said recruiter. It's like a parallel universe.
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David! Are you trying to tell me there's no such thing as Santa?
ReplyDeleteCT - those dictators had no control over me but it was amazing in a frightening/horrifying sense the control they had over my husband.
ReplyDeleteAnna - I'm sorry to be the one to break the news about 'Santa.'
ReplyDeleteEven though it hardly seems possible, the closed-logic scenario controlling Ambot behaviour, is frighteningly similar to what we were all taught to believe about 'Santa' when we were kids.
In the 'Amway' fairytale, only obedient little 'Ambots' (who do not question their parental 'Upline') receive their heart's desire. Naughty little Ambots get nothing, but that's entirely their own fault, because they weren't obedient and they did not believe.
In 'Amway,' all the puerile, so-called 'dream sessions', 'dream nights', 'dream weekends', etc., are the equivalent of children sending wish-lists to Santa at the North Pole. A lot of the pleasure of Xmas for kids, comes in their dreaming about what they are going to get. 'Amway' is no different, except that Ambots have to keep giving their parental 'Upline' lots of cash to keep their dreams alive.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
I think you just summed that up pretty nicely David!
ReplyDelete@David - "Ambots are wid-eyed adults who have simply become incapable of facing the ego-destroying reality that they have been fooled by what is merely a game of make-believe."
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I can attest to that fact. My extrication process was a long and arduous one, staying in had proven to be too expensive - emotionally, relationally and financially. Inevitably I had to accept the eventual outcome, quiting. Funny thing was I realized later how beautiful freedom was and having more of my money in my pocket was quite welcom.
ExAmbot - All law enforcement agencies accept that the overwhelming majority of fraud victims never file any form of complaint. The most skilled confidence tricksters manipulate their marks' existing beliefs and instinctual desires, luring them into embarrassing situations where they would first have to admit to the police that they had agreed to take part in criminal acts.
ReplyDeleteIn essence, 'MLM income opportunity' cults are all examples of the same sustainable blame-the-victim fraud - maliciously designed to prevent marks from facing reality and complaining. Thus, I admire anyone (like you) who has the courage to admit openly that he/she was deceived by a group like 'Amway'. That said, in the end, no one who becomes involved with a cult, does so as a result of his/her fully-informed consent.
Unfortunately, anyone who has ever been an active 'Amway' victim/recruiter, has been unconsciously attempting to perpetrate a fraud against their friends and families. For obvious reasons, in most cases, neither the Ambot marks nor their own marks can face this terrible reality. Few people can report their friends and family to the police.
My own brother fell for the 'Amway MLM income opportunity' lie back in the 1990s. Sadly, he is a moral coward has never had the courage to face reality. This is hardly surprising, because during his years with 'Amway,' my brother perpetrated various criminal acts against his friends, but particularly against his family; apparently believing that what he was doing was perfectly justified, because, in the end, he was trying to help us.
At first, I tried to reason with my brother. Then I was persuaded to remain silent to protect the health of my elderly mother. Eventually, to protect my mother from being defrauded, I sought the help of the police in the UK, but they refused to become involved in what they classified as a family matter.
Sadly, the long-term core-adherents of pernicious cults (like my own brother) are psychotic (i.e. suffering from psychosis, a severe mental derangement, especially when resulting in delusions and loss of contact with external reality). Core-adherents who manage to break with their group and confront the ego-destroying reality that they’ve been systematically deceived and exploited, are invariably destitute and dissociated from all their previous social contacts. For many years afterwards, recovering former core-adherents can suffer from one, or more, of the following psychological problems (which are also generally indicative of the victims of abuse):
depression; overwhelming feelings (guilt, grief, shame, fear, anger, embarrassment, etc.); dependency/ inability to make decisions; retarded psychological/ intellectual development; suicidal thoughts; panic/ anxiety attacks; extreme identity confusion; Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder; insomnia/ nightmares; eating disorders; psychosomatic illness (asthma, skin disorders, headaches, fatigue, etc.); sexual problems/ fear of forming intimate relationships; inability to trust; etc.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
David - it never would have occurred to me to contact the police even though I knew I'd been scammed by our upline and they committed fraud against me. If the cops didn't show up on more serious matters when I've phoned them - a gun being shot in a park, and a drunk driver swerving into oncoming trafic - why would they do anything about more victims of a pyramid scheme?
ReplyDeleteAlthough I sort of considered a lawsuit against our upline and I'd likely win bottom line is none of those bastards have anything. The only upline who held a steady job was our Platinum and I could have attached a lien to his pay, but no one else holds a regular job. They might have several employers a year either getting fired or quitting. They all own clunkers of cars, nothing I'd have wanted to attach to. They were all renters except the Platinum who claimed to own his house but I think there were several people - like parents on both sides - who were also on the mortgage/deed and it wouldn't have done me much good. You can't sue people who don't have anything. Its like expecting to get water out of a stone.
Anna - The full explanation of how long-stablished, occult totalitarian groups like 'Amway' function, is usually beyond the understanding of even the most-senior law enforcement agents. However, this major criminogenic phenomenon has definitely been studied by intelligence agencies around the world.
ReplyDeleteBy a strange coincidence, yesterday, was December 7th, 2011, the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbour. In the wake of that particular totalitarian-state-sponsored crime, the US government created the Office of Strategic Services (later to become the CIA). Many OSS staff were leading US academics; particularly, historians. Their job was to study, analyse and come up with a strategy to defeat the Axis of foreign-based totalitarian dictators who had declared War on the people of the USA.
Sadly, many police officers in the US, UK and other countries, have fallen victim to pyramid scams run by occult totalitarian groups like 'Amway'. Due to the subversion of the democratic process and the rule of law, by the agents of 'MLM' racketeers, pyramid scams dissimulated as 'MLM income opportunities' have been deemed the sole responsibility of civil trade regulators in the US, UK and other countries. In reality, all pyramid scams are a form of theft, and they should really be investigated and prosecuted by specialists in organized crime and racketeering.
Tellingly, the bosses of 'Amway' have maliciously dissimulated their pyramid fraud, and related advance fee fraud, behind a labyrinth of apparently independent companies and individuals (pursuing lawful, and/or unlawful, enterprises), in order to prevent investigation and isolate themselves from liability. The instigation of this type of Mafia-style criminogenic structure is in breach of the US federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 1970.
With the right advice, it would be a relatively easy task for any determined, and completely honest, 'Amway' victim to prove that he/she had been defrauded and, in turn, had been deceived into committing fraud, by the de facto agents of wealthy racketeers hiding behind a fundamentally- unlawful labyrinth of legally-registered companies.
The 'Amway' bosses are bluffing. In the face of an intellectually rigorous, and honest, prosecution, by victims who know that the 'Amway' bosses are holding nothing in their hand, they could be stripped of all their stolen wealth and thrown in jail for rest of their lives.
Sadly, the US justice system is currently so morally and intellectually bankrupt that it allows US-based totalitarian racketeers to escape from being held fully-to-account by bribing legislators and by paying off the few victims who refuse to remain silent.
Unfortunately, in recent years the USA has become a morally and intellectually weak little state where government of the people, by the people for the people has perished from the Earth. This New Birth of Freedom which Abraham Lincoln once described, has been replaced by government of racketeers (+ their shyster attorneys), by racketeers (+ their shyster attorneys) for racketers (+ their shyster attorneys).
David Brear (copyright 2011)
@Anna
ReplyDeleteYou know I thought the same way too - it never occured to me to contact the popo for more or less the same reasons you espoused above. I guess because I was dealing with feelings of depression, anger and shame as David inferred besides being broke. In the end I figured I will cut my losses, admit I was duped, apologize to everyone I got inolved in scamway and those who declined as well because I had "put them in their place for not seeing the oppportunity." Still doing that and it sets me free each time, difficult but nevertheless, necessary.
Sometimes the nightmare rears it's ugly somewhere in my mind but kind words such as yours David, have been helping to kill it, so thank you!
David - although many countries have laws against MLM pyramid schemes enforcing them is probably another story because of the nature of the crime and that very few victims come forward.
ReplyDeleteExAmbot - as you said most people will cut their losses and go away. I might have cut out losses but I didn't go away quietly. I've gotten our story out in the Internet, my blog has messed up Amway in the search engines by being high up there, and any ambot who reads this will never be quite sure whether or not they're my upline and that I'm not talking about them!
ReplyDeleteExAmbot - I think that's really good you apologized to everyone you messed with when you were in Amway. No one in our upline has ever apologzied to me. We had no downline to apologize to but my husband did apologize to many he'd pestered during the Amway hell days. One very good friend who showed up at the Amway Christmas sales event who we recently had dinner with said she just hated it. Hated going to that thing. Hated buying Amway products. Only did it because of long standing relationship with us. That made my husband feel really bad. Yup, going out and buying her a Christmas present today!
ReplyDeleteI got invited to an Emerald Celebration. Ofcourse since this is an Amway event it will cost $25 per head to attend this event plus the cost of a 2 hour drive. Heck for $25 I can get a lobster dinner in a quiet resturant. And you know how noisy these events are. Everyone is yelling FIRED UP, every second word is either upline this or amway that, incredibly annoying.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - and I thought we were getting ripped off at $10 each for Emerald Celebration!
ReplyDeleteYup I agree with that $25. Go have a nice meal at Red Lobster!
The only purpose Amway IBO's have in life is to be annoying!