Tuesday, August 27, 2013

101 Ways To Piss Off An IBO

Here’s an oldie but a goodie!

When I originally wrote this I was inspired by a new show on TV called 101 Ways to Leave a Game Show. Its hilarious! I’d like to do most of those stunts to our former upline minus the safety equipment of course! Whatever happened to that show????  Gonzo!! Just like the majority of IBO’s who sign up for Scamway!

This post might help out the people who end up at my blog after doing a Google search for “how to get rid of those annoying Amway salespeople” or “how to tell Amway people to go away”.

Here are 101 things to say to an IBO to piss him off:

1.      Does this have anything to do with Amway?
2.     Amway is a pyramid scheme.
3.     XS Energy Drinks taste like cat piss!
4.     Why did Ganesh and Neha Shenoy get divorced?
5.     Why is everyone in Amway so phony nice to me?
6.     $100 a year membership to buy overpriced products? Are you fucking kidding me?
7.     Go to hell! Oh I forgot. You’re in Amway. Same thing.
8.     Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else!
9.     Why are Nutrilite vitamins so expensive? And don’t give me no bullshit about the high quality because that’s a lie.
10. I read on the Internet that IBO’s lie about Artistry Cosmetics being one of the top 5 cosmetics in the world.
11.   Are you really dumb enough to believe that everything to do with Amway is a tax deduction?
12. Does Amway sell Monavie products?
13.  Is this Scamway?
14. You want me to come to an 8pm meeting? Fuck off! American Idol  is on then!
15.  Hey I drank your Perfect Water and I still don’t look 10 years younger! You’re a fucking liar!
16. Why are the Puryears selling their river house?
17.  What kind of a slimeball gets involved with Amway?
18. Did you hear Amway’s getting sued again?
19. How many people do you have in your downline?
20.I heard you lose a lot of money in Amway.
21. Have you read Merchants of Deception?
22. Amway is a cult.
23.How come when a dog eats Amway dog food it shits three times more than it used to?
24.I can make $115 a month working an Amway business for 10 to 15 hours a week? Do the math asshole! That’s $2 to $3 an hour!
25.Show me your tax return to prove you’re making $100,000 a year in Amway.
26.Who’s the liar that told you Amway owns the Amway Arena in Orlando?
27.If you’re so successful in Amway how come you’re driving a piece of shit 1972 Pinto?
28. I heard Amway sells prestige tampons.
29.No I’m not willing to pay more money for quality products.
30.That Amway food bar you gave me tasted like shit!
31.  How come you’re too embarrassed to tell anyone you’re with Amway?
32.Why are you lying to me?
33. Why do you have to get permission from your upline before doing anything?
34.How many customers do you have?
35. How much money do you make each month in Amway sales?
36.I heard the only way to make money in Amway is by selling motivational tools.
37. I’ll be successful just by going to Amway meetings and doing nothing else?
38.I heard Amway destroys relationships.
39.The only people who get rich in Amway are at the top of the pyramid.
40.You can’t brainwash me asshole!
41. How many grand openings are you planning to hold? Wasn’t one enough?
42. Submit to upline? Are you fucking crazy? Cult! Cult! Cult!
43.As a matter of fact I do like my job.
44.What qualifications does your upline have as counsellors?
45.Jesus Christ! Get off your fucking phone! Its after midnight! Doesn’t your fucking upline ever go to sleep?
46. How come Amway dishwasher soap costs twice as much as other brands and it only gets half the dishes clean?
47.Why does Amway sell towels that fall apart?
48. Sniped any prospects at the grocery store lately?
49.How many people you got on your name list?
50.Your Amway upline leader says you’re not allowed to watch TV? Sounds like a cult to me!
51.  Let me give you a good suggestion what you can do with those fucking Amway tapes!
52.Where am I going to find 6 people open to being scammed?
53. Who gives a shit if a Diamond is speaking tonight?
54.How come Amway’s shipping costs are so high? I only have to spend $25 with Amazon to get free shipping.
55. Why do you refer to Amway as “the business”? What’s the big secret to calling it what it is?
56.Who’s the fucking moron that told you Amway is the only recession proof business?
57. Hey did you see the Dateline expose on the Amway scam?
58.Amway’s an expensive social club.
59.What do you mean you’re cleaning your Platinum’s house for free every week?
60.Why do Amway meetings last until way past midnight?
61. Show me your Amway profit and loss statement.
62. Amway is creepy.
63.So what if I’m a broke loser for the rest of my life. Its better than being a good for nothing, lying, scumbucket Amway IBO so fuck off!
64. I’ve got better things to do with my life than go to your dumb ass Family Reunion.
65.I’m trading hours for dollars? Well at least its better than being in Amway and trading hours for pennies.
66.Why’s everything in Amway so secretive?
67.Wow! You spend so much time doing Amway shit when do you have time for fun?
68. If David Shores really paid cash for his house how did it get foreclosed?
69. My wife is already free. What’s it to you anyway?
70.Mind your own goddamned business!
71.  You’re a cult leader in training.
72.How do you say fuck in igbo?
73. The secret to Amway success is ripping off your customers.
74.So what if I have an employee mentality. Its better than having a brainwashed ambot mentality.
75. Who cares?
76.How many Amway meetings each week?
77. Who is Orrin Woodward?
78.Don’t get bitchy with me! You dragged me out to this fucking Amway meeting because you wanted my opinion. I gave you my opinion! Its a fucking scam!
79.I already am my own boss.
80. If Amway Diamonds make so much money why did Greg Duncan declare bankruptcy?
81. Sure I look at other ways of making money. How do you like my new printing press over there?
82. When you’re financially free in two to five years come back and show me your plan then.
83.I don’t punch a time clock but I’d sure like to punch you!
84. Open your fucking ears and eyes! Amway is a scam!
85.Why do you need permission to talk to your crossline?
86.Been to Barnes & Noble lately?
87.Why don’t you just tell me what your business opportunity is so I don’t have to go to your meeting.
88. How come you have to write checks payable to cash? Sounds like tax evasion to me.
89. Ever hear of the 15 second introduction? You should be able to say who you are and what you do in under 15 seconds. If it takes you a 3 hour meeting to spit it out you’re a fucking loser.
90.  No I don’t want to support your business because you’re too high priced.
91. WWDB stands for World Wide Destructive Bastards
92. Walmart has lower prices and better products.
93.Are you stupid?
94. It costs ten bucks to go to an Amway meeting? Rip off!
95.CD’s cost how much?
96.Ha ha! Did you seriously just call yourself an Amway warrior?
97.How come there are stories all over the Internet about how much money people are losing in the Amway scam?
98.  Your upline says you have to ask permission before you can buy a new fridge? Holy shit! And you say you’re not in a cult!
99. I’ve heard there’s some fat IBO’s. Does that mean the $500 Amway diet plan doesn’t work?
100. What’s it like living inside a pyramid?
101.Why does Amway ruin marriages?

Oh I’ve got more. I just promised to stop at 101!


  1. I read all your blog now along with the comments. Today was the first day in a about 6 months that I did not wake up depressed.

    I do not think that a coincidence.

    I woke up feeling glad that I did not stay with the Herbot, validated by all the stories of awfulness and horror here. A friend of mine said I should start a blog about it.
    Although there is little that I can put as far as my own stories go which haven't happened to either yourself or some other contributor here.
    Same shit different mlm.

    Here's to genuine business owners
    Here's to those who are glad to have jobs
    Here's to those who escaped MLM evil
    Here's to those brave enough to share their stories

    Down with Amway, down with Herbal Life, down with all scammy MLMS and may the up lines and wannabe up lines be cursed at!

    ~Ex-Girlfriend to a Herbot~

    1. Hi Herbots ex gf! Wow that's a lot of reading. In many cases those comments were better than the posts!

      I'm glad that you didn't wake up depressed and hope you have many more days that you wake up feeling better. It helps people knowing that they're not alone in the way they're feeling and that others have gone through the same thing with these lousy MLM cults.

      And yes this is the place to come to curse out those upline assholes!

  2. i got invited to a 'business meeting' from someone affiliated with Amway this upcoming Wed. Do you have any good questions I can ask the presenters to troll them with?

    1. Be a no show!

      Just ask them for proof of income like tax returns or profit and loss statement. They won't give it to you.

      If they ask you what your dream is tell them it's to raise money to make gay porno flicks.

      Ambots have answers for everything. Lie, deny, distract, and defend. Use any of the above 101 on the ambots.

    2. I agree, better to not bother showing up. I lost out on several social events which weren't crucial, but still upset I missed out on anyways.

      If you must go, I'd recommend NOT showing up in formal attire. It's tricky if you work with any of these folks, as they'll somehow think that the way you show up to an Amway meeting somehow reflects on your day job. Bring a handheld device to game on, check surf the internet, or bring a newspaper/magazine. You WILL be bored. Snack on some stuff if you'll be hungry.

      Indeed... try some of their tactics on them... when they interrupt you (and they probably will... over and over again), say "I was talking, do you agree it's rude to interrupt someone while he's talking?"

      Answer their questions with their own "non-answers" like they do. For example, if you ask them what the job description is, they answer, "how much money do you want to make. Thousands, 10s of thousands, hundreds of thousands?"
      When they ask you something like "would you trust your friend with surgery?"... eh, go ahead and say your friend's a surgeon, so "yes". Otherwise, a off topic question like that deserves an off topic answer "do you trust YOUR friends with reflooring your kitchen?"

    3. ...ask them where the nearest Church of Satan is; when you get the AmStare, just giggle insanely about "Tom Cruise is transgender..did you know that? I think he's dreamy...and so are you! By the way..is that lipstick in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?" Then simply walk away singing "From The Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli.." You won't see them again...not that I've ever done anything like that, or anything..just sayin'..

    4. Good ones wayneo. The nearest church of Satan would be the nearest Amway meeting. Amstare. Gotta love it!

  3. 102. Is IBOFightback paid to defend Amway?

    103. Is IBOFightback gay?

    104. Show me your schedule C business tax return.

  4. Okay... I laughed when I read just the title of this blog entry. That's never happened before :D

    25- someone mentioned that you should ask to see a (preferably notarized) Schedule C as well, to prove that the sales are coming from Amway consumables and NOT the CDs and tapes.
    preEDIT: CoolJoe beat me to it with #104.

    37- I asked another ambot over the phone whether or not if you can make the couple hundreds of $$ a month that the speaker in the meeting mentioned, if you couldn't get any downlines and wasn't going to buy more than a few vitamins a month. He "uhmmed", and then trailed off. I was surprised he didn't just flat out lie, but either way, it was yet another red flag.

    Anony-1) when you're at an Amway meeting, show up in shorts, sandals, and a T-shirt. In this case, I'd sit up at front :)

    Anony-2) for more effect, sit up front, and just play handheld video games. Cell phone is nice, but a Nintendo DS/Playstation Portable would probably have better effect
    If an ambot asks, tell them you can't put down the video game because you're afraid you may literally die of boredom and overdosage of bullshit.

    Anony-3) after the meeting, approach the other prospectees and talk with them. If their ambot show up, tell him that you'd like to talk with the others who showed up and get his opinion, and that if can't even leave you alone for a few moments, then they're being rude and can't be good people to do business with. Whether or not an ambot is around to hear, ask him if he's ever heard this much BS in his life.

    Anony-4) tell them you've heard of Amway because a friend in the business sent you MP3s of all of their motivation seminars. It was so good, you sent it to some of YOUR friends too!

    Anony-5) if they bring up why you didn't buy from the approved hotel for the amway convention, tell them the approved hotels are too fucking expensive, and you'd rather have the extra money to put into the business instead.

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  6. Here are a few more

    102. When I try to recruit people for Amway, they told me it was a scam, and they want to report me.

    103. I love my current job very much.

    104. I am to busy watching TV, movies, and listening to music to listen to Amway CD.

    105. I only read book I like.

    106. My boss is hot, so I love working for him. Even overtime if you know what I mean.

  7. I said to a ex ambot & his diamond I was told by amway corp I didnt have to buy a kit to become a distributor. That buying the literature portion is enough. Boy did they throw a hissy fit and told me i cant join their WWDB group unless i buy a kit. That other groups might allow their distributors to not buy a kit but not us. They also hated the part where i said i want to spend as little as possible on this business and keep my cost down.

    1. Hi Anonymous - and that's another way to piss off an IBO - refusing to buy their kit. And you are right that Amway says in their literature that you're not required to buy the kit or tools but if you don't as you witnessed the assholes in your Amway upline throw a hissy fit and refuse to have anything to do with you. Now someone like me I'm OK if those Amway assholes don't want nothing to do with me but for people who have been brainwashed or like those bastards then they want to do whatever it takes to get their love and adoration and that means buying shitty overpriced Amway products and investing in the Amway tool scam. Bad little ambot if you say you want to buy as little as possible. How will they ever make any money off you! Ha ha!

    2. I did find someone who was willing to sell me the literature portion and sign me up But I decided the products where overpriced. Originally I wanted to drop off catologs or web Addy to friends and ask a few days later will they buy. I figured that was the only way to make this profitable. But selling Avon this way would be even easier.

    3. Hi anonymous. You are right the products are overpriced. Ambots will convince you to pay more for higher quality but Amway products are generic or substandard at premium prices. Avon products ar decent quality and very good prices when they have sales and when not on sale comparable to retail stores. Like Amway you probably won't make much money selling their products but at least you aren't losing money and friends and family with Avon.

  8. Amway’s new hierarchy of evilness:

    Diamond IBOs and above = Draculas
    Emerald IBOs = Vampires
    Sapphire, ruby and platinum = Witches
    Rest of the useless IBOs = Zombies

    “Live the cult dream”


  9. Landed on this page (and the website) and I have tears in my eyes..

    I wasted 5 golden years of my life on this shit business. Acting like a dumbass, keeping my eyes closed, and saying yes boss yes boss to my upline and his bosses.

    So glad I am not doing it anymore.. Life has become better for me once I mentally decided to stop building business a year back. I got a good promotion, I got a nicer car and my own house. Soon I'll be marrying the girl of my dreams. She wasn't very positive about the business, so my uplines would give me that *who wears pants in your household* talk.

    You are doing a good job Anna Banana.

    People who are getting into Amway and think that this site is full of crap and negative - Trust me it is not! We all have been through all the lies and deceit at some point of our life by one of those Amway scumbag IBOs and are sharing our experiences. You are free to pick what you want, or not listen to us, waste your time and regret years later..

    1. Hi Anonymous. Good to hear you're not wasting any more time and money to the Amway scam. Your former upline must be furious after making money off your for 5 years that income source has dried up. And you no longer have to kiss their asses!

  10. Can one do the amway business without adhering to any uplines or system ie: wwdb or bww? I want to start this business but sems like the system is at fault and i dont agree with their methods of teaching. It seems to me that theres definitely better ways in making this business work that just simply changing your buying habits.

    1. Jet - I've heard from one reader a long time ago who said he was doing it that way. My big question would be why? Amway has such a bad reputation. Over 95% of the people who buy Amway's products are registered as IBO's so that tells you there is very little outside consumer interest in buying overpriced shitty products. The other problem you're up against is that you would most likely have to be sponsored by an existing IBO who is an active participant in one of these systems. If you're not purchasing tools and going to meetings he will be phoning you all the time begging you to do it and then the assholes in his upline will get involved putting the pressure on you too until you cave. They will say you'll never get ahead unless you join our system and buy the tools but they'll say it a whole lot more aggressively than that. Look at the small print on Amway's literature about the compensation. It reads less than a fraction of 1% of all participants make money. That's over 99% failure rate! You can't find another business opportunity with better odds of success?

      Before signing up with Amway look on the upper right side of this page for Amway links and you'll see a link for a free ebook to download called Merchants of Deception written by a former Emerald. You can also read some of the other blogs on the reading list on the upper right because they talk more about the Amway opportunity or lack.

  11. Hi. Yes..I too was in "the bizness" for nine years. Had twenty people at one time. Then one day I said to my wife, we have a four thousand dollar a year leak in our budget, and I know where it's coming from. Well...we quit. We bought a house, cars, motorcycles, have money in the bank and pretty good jobs with benefits. Don't miss no sleep.

    1. Hi Anonymous. 9 years! Wow! You'd think you were a lifer and nothing would make you quit. And 20 people in the downline. That's 20 more than most IBO's get! Obviously at some point you got smart enough to do a profit and loss statement and keep tracking of your Amway expenses and income. And by some accounts people would say if you only lost $4000/year in the Amway scam, that's a whole lot less money than so many other Ambots lose in a year.

      But yup, now that you get out of Amway you can start leading a better life. Investments, house, nice cars, vacations, and savings. Those are things out of reach to so many people who got suckered into the Amway scam.


Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
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