Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Amway Will Ruin Your Life

People are finding their way to this blog after searching for “Amway will ruin your life”.

I’ve seen a lot of people leave comments on the Internet including this blog about the financial and emotional devastation that Amway inflicted upon them. 99% of IBO’s who sign up to be commissioned sales agents with Amway will lose money. That’s just the way the system is designed and part of the reason that Amway is known as a scam, a pyramid scheme, and Scamway.

The minimum monthly amount of money an IBO has to spend in purchasing Amway products is about $300 to reach 100PV that magical number at which Amway will send out a commission check of about $10. But it don’t stop there. $50/month for premier membership to WWDB (World Wide Destructive Bastards) another $35 for monthly Communikate services, say at least $50/month buying useless “motivational” CDs and books, paying to go to Amway meetings, paying even more dollars to attend out of town Amway functions because then you have ticket costs plus transportation, food, hotel, etc. Call it an average of $700/month if you even out the costs of the functions over a year. That is the bare minimum if you don’t want your sack of shit Platinum ridiculing you at Amway meetings for not coughing up the cash to meet these requirements. CORE ambots or at least those who want to impress their upline will probably spend much more than $300/month on useless shitty overpriced Amway products and more on the tool scam.

How much you money you lose depends on how long you stick it out in the Amway cult. Could only be a few hundred bucks to several thousand to tens of thousands of dollars in losses. Much of those losses come from savings, selling the house and using the equity to “invest” in your Amway business, or going into credit card debt or taking out bank loans.

Some people can bounce back from the financial losses. A lot depends on how much they lost and how much income they currently earn. A person in their 20’s who loses $50,000 is more likely to recover than a senior citizen who wiped out their entire savings to chase the Amway nightmare. In many cases even though an IBO may have been involved in Scamway for only a year or two it takes many years to recover financially. Some ambots take harder hits than others and have to declare bankruptcy. Other ambots lose their houses because their upline counselled with them to skip a few mortgage payments in order to afford to go to the next Scamway function and the bank foreclosed on them.

Here’s a tip. If you’re planning to skip a mortgage payment talk to your bank first. Some banks allow their customers to skip a month due to temporary financial setbacks. Other banks let their customers skip a few payments but require them to make up the payments over the next few months adding on extra amounts to the mortgage payment until they’re caught up. If you skip a mortgage payment because you need to money to fund your Amway upline’s goals and stiff the bank without first discussing it with the manager they’re not going to be very happy. Banks don’t want to foreclose. They don’t really want to deal with selling someone’s house. They just want their money.

Its like the Amway cult leaders. They don’t really want to deal with their downline - they just want their money.

Another way Amway ruins people’s lives is by destroying relationships. The Amway cult leaders start out by separating the ambots from anyone in their lives who are not in Amway. That takes care of a lot of friends and family. If the ambot’s wife has not interest in Amway and can’t stand the Amway assholes then they work hard at convincing the ambot to leave the relationship because the Amway asshole cult leaders know that the spouse can get control of the finances and stop the flow of money to Amway. But sometimes the brainwashed ambot chooses the Amway assholes over their spouse. There’s another marriage ending in divorce thanks to Scamway.

Amway ruins many lives and people take to the Internet to share their Amway horror stories. Thats why at Amway meetings the Amway cult leaders order the ambots not to look for “negative” information on the Internet about Amway. According to Amway assholes the Internet is a bathroom wall polluted by losers and quitters.

And of course everyone finds their way to Anna Banana’s chamber of Amway horrors telling about the treatment you’ll receive from Amway assholes and this is the hell you have to look forward to if you stay in Scamway - being abused by your upline.

So one more time I send out a big old FUCK YOU to two of the biggest troublemaking bastards around who tried to ruin our lives - the asshole that sponsored us into Amway and our sack of shit Platinum!


  1. Yes, look at IBOFightback. Amway has ruined his life too.

    1. Yup just another Ambot whose devoted his life to loving Amway and nothing else exists.

    2. Can you tell me what one does with 300 dollars of products monthly. Surely after a year you have a ton of stuff scattered around the house.

    3. Anonymous - one could say $300 of Amway products doesn't go too far because they cost 3 or 4 times as much as similar products sold in the stores. But when your upline pressures you to buy hundreds more to load up on inventory then yes you got a ton of Amway shit scattered around the house and garage. So many stories online of people using up Amway products years after they've quit. Others toss the shit in the garbage.

  2. Surprisingly, the cleaning product package is a decent deal, but when you throw in the 11 bucks to ship, not so much lol.

    If I knew how limited their selection was and how much it actually costed for the SAME EXACT THING (fruit roll ups) I could have gotten at the store I would never had even joined. Just another thing they are 'deceptive' about, their response will be you didn't 'ask the right questions'.

    1. And, of course, Amway is incredibly adept at dancing around actually answering "the right questions". The right questions are deemed "negative" (i.e. to answer them honestly would mean no one in their right mind would want to be a part of such a money-losing pyramid scam) so they steer victims away by talking about "dreams" and how they would spend all that money they are going to make.

    2. Rbot - one of the ambot lines is how you can save money by buying products you already use and switch your shopping habits to buy from your own store. I still fail to see how I'm saving money buying roll ups for $10 from Amway when I can buy them for $2 at the grocery store. Same with just about every product out there. As you said limited selection, overpriced, generic products.

    3. Anon,

      Totally agree with you on dancing around the right answers and such.

      They tell partial truths on everything its so sad, it kind of reminds me of when I used to play World of Warcraft people would pad their stats to make their characters much more appealing for grouping, but when one digs in a bit more they can see what it really is.

      Another is how my former upline 'left' his job for Amway, probably meaning he got fired or works somewhere else, but hey he's telling the truth, he doesn't work there anymore.

      They claim the 8-11 billion in revenue that Amway makes. That figure is probably/is true, but that is REVENUE, EVERY company has revenue, it is the bottom line NET INCOME BEFORE/AFTER Tax that really matters, which btw they don't mention because I am sure the profit margin isn't that much to brag about.

      The 'tied' into the right people quote bothers the hell out of me. I know a lot of rich/successful people to that doesn't automatically make me a millionaire. Riding another person's coattail is all that is.

      I love this blog I could comment ALL DAY LONG

  3. I'm watching reruns of King Of The Hill, and was surprised how many episodes involve scams, MLMs, and just suckering in naïve people in general. If you guys have access to reruns like on TV or Netflix, these episodes are amusing to watch, but scary where they can easily be true too.

    Bill of Sales: MetaLife MLM scam
    Death Buys A Timeshare: buying a timeshare in Mexico
    Fun with Jane and Jane: Soriety with locked gates that's really a cult

  4. So let me get this straight! you buy $300 of Amway products and then you put them in the garage and forget about them / never use them / and then bitch about them?

    1. Or bitch about the assholes that scammed you into buying them.

  5. I really hope the IBOs who read this blog see sense and quit before it further destroys their lives and those of the friends, family and loved ones around them.

    One thing to bear in mind if you are friends/family of someone who gives up amway is to make sure they don't go about thinking that mlm is ok and it was just amway which is shit.
    Some people get a condition called mlm addiction where they fail at one mlm and quit, and as they have low self esteem and addicted to the love bombings they immediately join another mlm and the cycle of ruin starts again. Make sure they don't do this there are tons of other mlms like herbal life and nu skin causing similar trail of personal devastation and money loss. Maybe the people are different and compensation scheme slightly different but same game by shitty scamsters at the top.

    Make sure you read Robert Fitzpatrick.

    Down with mlms!

    ~ Ex-Girlfriend of a Herbot.

    1. Hi Herbot's Ex. Unfortunately ambots who read this blog don't suddenly get the good sense to quit. They usually disobey their cult leaders orders and stick around long enough to say something negative. Yup they will be that one in a billion who makes it to Diamond.

      And very true about MLM hoppers. That just about covers my entire former Amway upline!

      And for anyone interested in what Robert Fitzgerald has to say there's a link further up on the right hand side of this page for pyramid scheme alert.


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