Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Amway IBOs Brag That Amway Invented The Refund Policy

Does it ever fail to amaze you how many Amway ambots show up at this blog and probably every other “negative” Amway website they can scrounge up to brag about Amway’s refund policy?

I don’t think we’ve ever posted anything about Amway’s refund policy so what’s with these dumb fuck ambots leaving comments on posts that have nothing whatsoever to do with Amway’s refund policy. They do that because its all part of the life an Amway Ambot must lead as part of belonging to this cult: lie, deny, distract and defend. Typical Amway ambot distract technique when we’re talking about how Amway is scamming people and an ambot clutching a bible in one hand and furiously typing with their other hand screeches that Amway has 180 day refund policy.

Like who the fuck cares? We’re talking about one thing and then some fucking Amway asshole shows up to brag that Amway offers refunds.

Dumb fuck ambots believe everything their Amway cult leaders tell them like Amway invented the whole refund concept.

I don’t know who invented refunds. Maybe that goes back to caveman days. I do know that refund policies have been in effect for a long time before Scamway ever came along.

So why do Amway ambots make assholes out of themselves bragging about how Amway offers refunds like refunds are something no other company does and then the ambots make even bigger assholes out of themselves when its on a post that has nothing to do about refunds.

I don’t make it a habit of buying stuff with the sole thought in my head that I can return them for a refund. Over the years I’ve had to get refunds on different types of products but I’m not a serial return for refund person. Like many people I have the attitude that most of the time its more trouble than its worth to take something back and get a refund. Its easier to just put up with it or throw it out.

Most stores have return for refund policy. Its very rare for a shopkeeper not to offer a refund. Its all about making the customer happy and getting repeat business and referals. Stores offer different lengths of time for a refund. Usually 30 days from time of purchase is sufficient for people to figure out whether this is the right product for them or not. People in Amway suffer from being brainwashed and fucked in the head and just generally slow and behind others intellectually because they can’t think for themselves so it takes them much longer ie 180 days to figure out they need a refund. Or get permission from the assholes in their upline to do a refund.

Other places like the fellows selling bags of oranges on the corners and medians on La Cienega don’t offer refunds. You look through the plastic bag and make a decision before putting down your cash. And likely you wouldn’t find them again anyway even if you did go back and try to get your money back. Especially if the INS van just rolled down the street.

So how many of those Amway ambots who screech about how Amway invented refunds and how Amway is the only company in the world that offers refunds has actually tried to get a refund from their beloved employer? This falls into the category of its more trouble that its worth which is something Amway counts on. First off you have to jump through hoops with Amway’s I-don’t-give-a-fuck- department. Like the staff were filing their fingernails and we interrupted them with a phone call so they’re gonna bitch at us about why are we interrupting them with something with such low importance as a refund.

Getting past the hurdle of Amway’s less than helpful help desk aka the I-don’t-give-a-fuck- department you now have to face getting bitched at and humiliated by the assholes in your Amway upline.

The thing about getting a refund from Amway is it don’t end when you get your money refunded. That PV you earned when you bought the shitty overpriced Amway product is now deducted from your brownie points collection. Refund means losing those points. And it still doesn’t stop there. All the fucking assholes in your Amway upline also lose out in that commission and go in the hole on the old PV. And that’s when the shit hits the fan. All the assholes in the Amway upline will be phoning and texting and bitching the ambot out for being such a loser to ask for a refund on Amway’s “fine high quality prestige” product. And then there will be the public humiliation at the next Amway meeting where the sack of shit cult leader running that meeting bitches out the ambot in front of everybody.

Its my guess that most of the Amway ambots who show up bragging that Amway offers refunds and no other company in the entire world does!!!! has never actually tried to get a refund and if they have they neglected to tell us about the shit kicking they got from the assholes in their upline when everyone’s points went in the shitter.


  1. Hi Anna- first off, let me say I love your blog. Second, I was propositioned by an "ambot" for the first time on Saturday. What made it so strange was that the pitch occurred DURING A FIRST DATE.

    I feel compelled by pride to state up front that I am a pretty girl. I watch what eat, I dress well, and I have great hair. It's important that I point that out, otherwise the whole story has a very sad "lonely lady" feel to it. I'm in my late 20s and like most singles I have an online dating profile. About 2 weeks ago I got a message from a guy on the site; he was cute and my age and sent a very flattering and detailed message to me. I responded back, and for about a week and a half we messaged a bit. Looking back there were some red flags; his profile said he was self employed and listed his income as $100k. That in itself is unusual; people rarely if ever list their personal income for obvious reasons. Also, when I told him I was a grad student he was like "well, that's good for you...I'm more of an independent ambitious type of guy so I could never work for someone else". Again- big red flag (because I'm in grad school for education, and he's the first person I've ever met to kinda scoff at teaching). But....he was cute. So when he asked me out for coffee I didn't think twice about going.

    I get to the coffee shop on Sat afternoon, and the first thing I notice is he's dressed up. Like, he's wearing a tie. It's Sat afternoon in a coffee shop in Buffalo NY- no one wears a tie. So we started talking; at first light getting to know you chit chat but quickly it gets very focused on me. On my financial situation- how am I paying for grad school? Do I find the need to take out loans? Do I have to work a job on the side? And then he started saying things about teaching; about how hard it is to get a teaching job, about how little they get paid, etc. I actually started feeling a little shitty; teachers DONT get paid that much. Then he laid down his line; it was something to the effect of he didn't normally do this but he thought I was super cute and he liked me a lot, so he'd be willing to cut me in on this great business opportunity. Then he went into a pitch; he actually drew a profit to loss graph on a napkin. Ummmm....I may not be an MBA but I know enough about investing to never invest money for a scheme someone draws on a napkin.

    He went on for about 15 min; I don't think I ever said a word. I figured out what was going on pretty quick- but I just could not believe this guys audacity. And also, his cluelessness. Because it's pretty audacious to say to yourself "Girls think I'm kinda sexy, so I'm going to hunt some down on OKCupid and scam them into a MLM". But it's also SO clueless. Here's this guy who's really good looking, he was charming and engaging....if he really wanted to dedicate himself to building a serious business, or working as a salesman in a well paying sales position (say at an auto dealership), he could do it. He's been blessed with the gifts of charm, attractiveness, and boldness and in other businesses he'd thrive. Instead, he's running a scam on 28 year old ladies- and the scam doesn't even work. I didn't sign up, he's still broke, and he didn't even get laid (which probably wouldn't have happened on Sat anyways, but at least he had a shot before he started the Amway shit)

    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by with your story. Yup Amway ambots were hitting up females on online personal ads too when I was in, rotten lousy lying little bastards that they are! Anyway, I love your story and might use it in a future post. That's the thing with being in Amway and these guys can't figure out why they're not getting laid. Amway= huge turn off!

  2. CASSETTE TAPE, here. I have to jump in here and say I returned a LOT of stuff to amway during our tenure and it always turned out O.K. Have things changed since 2000? I've read often on here about the difficulty of returns and found that perplexing since I had a decent experience.

    Off topic (sorry, Anna), but has anyone read on The Blaze that Rush Limbaugh is predicting the left may go after Dick Devoss b/c of his political views? This could get unpleasant. Not sure what to make of it.

    1. Cassette Tape - yup you have to jump through hoops to get a refund from Amway. First with the creeps who work at Amway's I don't give a fuck desk. But they're nothing compared to the hard time you'll get from the assholes in the Amway upline when everyone goes into the PV hole because of that refund.

      Yeah let the left go after him!

  3. There are several reasons for a refund policy... at more reputable stores, you can buy something, and realize that if you didn't want it, you can go ahead and return it with relatively low hassle of driving back.

    The problem with Amway's refund policy is as soon as your realize these people are out to get your money by any means necessary, the refund policy now isn't worth the paper its written on. I'd imagine they'd shame you for doing so. I'd gander the refund department makes you jump through a lot of hoops too, like trying to quit AOL's internet service back over a decade ago.

    1. ackmondual - nothing at Amway is worth the paper its written on! And the public shaming/ridicule the ambot goes through for trying to refund something just isn't worth it. As you've mentioned reputable stores give refunds with a lot less hassle than Amway and the upline assholes.

  4. The real scam, the cds books and seminars have no written refund policy that I know of.

    1. Joecool - those scamming ambots are supposed to refund those tools but they don't. Mostly cause they don't have any money to do so. Just another way the tool scam is - well the tool scam. You get scammed so many ways from Amway.

  5. "There ain't no refund!"- Dexter Yeager

    1. And speaking of scammers. The King himself!!!

    2. Just curious with the refunds. Do ibos deal with upline or Amway customer service for refunds? I remember wwdb there was no such thing as returns or refunds.

    3. Hi Anonymous. We were in the same Amway cult sect and
      technically what you've said is correct. Its all about Amway ambots talking out of both sides of their mouth bragging about Amway offers refunds but don't you dare return anything or there will be hell to pay. If they're a good little ambot and ask their upline for permission to retirn something the ambot will be chastised and won't dare disobey their cult leader. If they go directly to Amway to get a refund, eventually that show up on the reports everyone upline sees about their downlines activity and thats when everyone goes into the hole on their points and the ambot will suffer more abuse from thier upline for daring to disobey.

    4. Then I'm tempted to sign up and buy products. Then return everything to Amway. Might drop by a house meeting and be a dick.

    5. You don't have to sign up to buy products. Buy them and return them. The guy who sold them under his IBO number and everyone in his upline takes a hit when the PV goes into the hole. And yeah it'd be fun to go to a meeting and be a dick. Interrupt the meeting and say you're looking for investors for a gay porno movie you're starring in. The sack of shit running the meeting will be livid!


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