Thursday, January 28, 2016

Amway Ambots Will Be Gazillionairs In 2 To 5 Years

A reader shares their story. And haven’t we all heard this story. Why does everyone have a bunch of assholes in their Amway upline who are always so busy but they’ll squeeze out some time to fit you in and expect you to kiss their ass. Could have been sitting there in Coffee Bean…..

Lol, so yesterday my friend called me to schedule a meeting today. I asked her the things like how much she is paying for tools ($100 per month), how much is her total expense far, and how come this business does not have a normal plan, projection, etc like a normal business. I think I should give up on my friend coz she answered me like a robot. She mentioned all of her expenses she does not consider them as expenses, but rather as investments. Mind you my friend background is accounting, so it rather confused me. As far as accounting goes, if you don't put it as expense, you can only put the costs as assets, but you can't put those kind of stuffs as assets coz they're literally worthless.

So, today I met her Emerald upline at Coffee Bean (something like Starbucks). I didn't know I was going to meet this Emerald, as previously my friend said I was going to meet his wife or what. Then 15 minutes before scheduled appointment she messaged about this Emerald shit giving me time despite his busy schedule, and I immediately mentioned I will be late when I could've made it in time. I was trying to look whether this stupid Emerald is really as busy as he says (I think not). I arrived 20 minutes late and the sack of shit hadn't arrived yet lol. Mind you our "short" time of discussion lasted for like 2 and a half hours coz the Emerald is damn busy.

The person started giving usual bullshit of 2-5 year, 10hrs/week and I can get $10,000/month as passive income. Then he explains his statistics of 1,000 sample size is big enough to represent the whole population. I told him straight away that I've never heard those theory before and my background is Mathematics. He gave me some stupid excuses, then continue with usual Amway does everything for him, so he can concentrate on sales. Yeah, true Amway does everything for him and charge him a huge margin on their products. In the meantime he kept telling me accounting is shit and waste of time, knowing full well that I do account in my current company. If accounting is shit probably Amway should ditch it as well and pay those diamond and emerald anyhow they want hahaha ...

He also said when he went to Emerald function in Los Angeles last year, there were few thousands of people (he mentioned only 3,000 at first, but later didn't want to be specific). I later asked him how many people are in Scamwork 21, which he answered few hundred thousands. Lol, so the foolproof system only has success rate of around 1%? And they still want to tell me it's 100% success rate?

We then proceeded to compensation plan, which he explained to me in details coz I pushed really hard on that. My conclusion is, if he only has 3-4 legs at Platinum, his "passive" income should not be at $10,000, but more like $3,000 to $4,000 gross even with the bonus. What a fucking liar shit Emerald. He mentioned he has lots of downline at 3% so he can earn another 18% on them. No shit, the downline at 3% probably only spend $400 max per month, so he got like $72 from each of them. And I really doubt he has lots of 3% downline. 3% downline probably already quit after long time not making money, but losing money for buying shitty products.

We then moved on to what they call CEP, which basically means subscription of stupid ass cd and books, and functions. They dare to tell me first that they sell those tools at costs, then when I pointed out to them, cd don't cost $6 to make. You can buy blank cd at $0.10 or maybe less. With the production costs and freight, I doubt that cd costs more than $2 per piece. Not to mention the book they lent to me costs like 5 times of Amazon's price. They then changed their tune that it is a for profit organization, need to pay office rent, employees, etc. They also said it's not about the costs, but about the quality. Wow, what is the difference in quality between the very same book from them (at $10) and from Amazon (<$2)? They then mentioned about my college degree and investment on it. Excuse me? College degree is something with value, something that is required by a lot of company to get a decent job. It's not a useless shit of cd and functions with no contents.

I tried to close the discussion by saying I can't agree with the system that benefits from its member by a lot (basically saying it's a scam). And wow, they are very persistent on me trying some more cd and books or some of Amway products. I told them I don't want to waste time on overpriced products and that I hated those cds, can't stand listening to other cd anymore, the cds are useless and give nothing beneficial. Then they tried to force me to listen to other cds coz they have few millions of cds (OMG! are you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!). I almost rolled my eyes coz $4x(few hundred thousand of members)x (few million cds) = gee no wonder Jim and Nancy Dornan and those asshole Diamonds are rich. So, I flat out told them no, no , no and NO! Yet they still tried to sold me so I just told them I won't change my mind no matter what and that their system is shit (and implying it's a scam) haha ... I think I should be free now from them. Hurray!



  1. Wow, what an account!

    And it is SO DAMNED TYPICAL of the Ambot mentality to push and push and push even when the prospective recruit has said NO! to them. And even when their lies are shown to be lies, the Ambot won't give up, and just denies and distracts in order to keep on pushing the Amway fraud.

    Also, they insulted this person for being an accountant, and for having a college degree. Is that really a good approach to recruiting someone? It goes to show that there is a vicious streak of arrogance in Amway freaks. They can't help showing their contempt for anyone who has achieved anything outside of Amway.

    1. Anonymous - people in Amway insult EVERYONE. Add on to that the Amway cult leaders who punish and then say we still love you and its like what the fuck way is that to promote moral and encourage people. Well its the cult leaders way.

      And yeah why do these fucking Amway assholes keep pushing once you say no. If you're in a grocery store and someone is handing out free samples of crackers and you say no, that person isn't chasing you all over the store until you say yes and agree to eat a sample. People in Amway are vicious nasty bastards and sneer at everyone who has a more successful life.

    2. One of the things that is especially obnoxious about Amway is the pronounced anti-education and anti-culture mentality of most of the people involved in it.

      The man described in this post was an accountant (a significant professional achievement), and he had a college degree. And the Amway freaks showed contempt for his accomplishments, and denigrated them. As far as they were concerned, since he wasn't joining Amway he was a loser, and his achievements and education were meaningless.

      This is precisely the experience that sickened me back in 1971 when my cousin got sucked into Amway and tried to get me into it too. We had been close, and our relationship was culturally enriching. We read good books and discussed them, we were concerned with the fine arts, we visited galleries and museums, and we had a set of sophisticated and cultured friends with whom we spent much time in the appreciation of such things.

      As soon as my cousin got into Amway, all of this vanished. He only wanted to talk about "The Plan." He had no time to go see a film or attend a concert. His interest in literature and the arts dropped to zero. He started disappearing on weekends to go to functions and meetings and all the other rah-rah bullshit that Amway specializes in.

      OK, fine, I thought. He's made his choice in life. But he seemed annoyed and perturbed because I wouldn't go along with it. And when he introduced me to other persons in Amway, I was appalled at their lack of education and polish. They were small-town provincials with a dull, crackerbarrel mentality. They hadn't a cultured bone in their bodies, and they were largely contemptuous of anyone with an education, or any interests outside of Amway.

      And these same jerks show up here at your blog, Anna, to scream about us being "uneducated." What hypocritical assholes.

    3. Anonymous - you said it. Seeing as how this college educated accountant wasn't planning to join the Amway cult he was labeled a loser (by one of the biggest fucking Amway losers out there LOL!) and his achievements and education were meaningless. If you don't have a hoity toity degree from Amway University then yes according to a brainwashed Ambot your education is worthless. And if you're currently a student or planning to be one Amway Ambots will sneer at you why are you wasting all your money in education when you can get started on your own business right now and attend Amway University which means you automatically have a degree in anything you choose to label yourself an expert in.

      What happened to your cousin is typical of everyone in Amway. Every Ambot out there has no interests outside of Amway. That's all they want to talk about and all they want to do is associate with other Ambots and that's because the cult leaders are good at brainwashing them to stay away from people who aren't in the Amway cult.

      The biggest hypocritical assholes out there can all be found in Amway and they love to prove what big assholes they are by showing up at this blog to leave their bullshit propaganda and negativity.

  2. IBOFB has been in Amway since 1998. More than 2-5 years and he's rich. Oh wait...........

    1. Is IBOFB still an Amway distributor? I thought he had quit years back, and was now trying to sell himself as an on-line defender of MLM scams.

      I guess there's more cash in defending Amway verbally than there is in trying to meet a monthly PV goal.

    2. He might not be active but IBOFB's "sons and daughters" are there spouting their bs propaganda on your blog.

    3. Joecool - IBOFB is just another lying scamming piece of shit Amway bastard claiming to be rich from this scam.

      As well all know anything a fucking Amway asshole says is a lie.

    4. Anonymous - I have no idea if he's still an Amway IBO or not but most likely yes otherwise why spend all your life being an Amway Ambot: lie, deny, distract, and defend. Unless you're seriously fucked in the head.

    5. Anonymous - you're probably right. The devil spawn is showing up on this blog to spout off their negative bullshit Amway propaganda.

  3. Here is an example:


Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
10. Your comment got caught in the spam filter. Gets checked occasionally. We’ll get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isn’t spam.