Thursday, September 8, 2016

Amway’s Retirement Plan

Don’t laugh - but a searcher ended up on my blog searching for “does Amway have a retirement plan”?

OK. I will laugh. LOL! LOL! That is funny that some dumb ass actually thinks Amway has a retirement plan! I don’t know if that refers to Amway employees or Amway IBO’s which are pretty much one and the same. They’re all (mis)representing Amway in some staff capacity. And neither has a retirement plan.

I heard from an Amway employee who worked for the head office in Michigan for many years. No retirement/pension plan. And quite bitter about it, as rightly they should be. I have ambots showing up on my blog leaving comments about how Amway did $10 billion in business last year. You’d think a company this big would take care of its employees. I’ve worked for companies nowhere near that amount and we had either a pension or could contribute to a 401k or stock options or similar. Big companies that treat their employees like shit will not offer retirement plans or if they do only to a select few people. Ah nothing like breeding contempt in the workplace!

Amway knows no boundaries! It breeds contempt all around the world!

But enough of talking about how Amway treats its employees like shit. I’m going the other direction with the “does Amway have a retirement plan” theory and applying it to the phony ass business owners who refer to themselves as IBO’s.

If there was a retirement plan in the traditional sense where the employee and/or the employer make regular contributions to some sort of retirement savings, then I don’t know nothing about it. I’m going out on a limb and saying such an Amway program does not exist because our sack of shit Platinum would have bragged about it endlessly if there was such a thing.

The Amway retirement program is something that IBO’s have to create themselves. How? Well by showing up for Amway meetings for the next 2 to 5 years, spending at least $300/month on shitty overpriced Amway products, attending every Amway meeting, attending every out of town Amway function, spending hours dealing with your Amway upline, subscribing to Communikate and WWDB premier membership (combined close to $100/month), etc, etc. And sometime in those 2 to 5 years the IBO will be rewarded by Amway sending them bazillions of dollars every month for the rest of their lives in the form of residual income. Easy! Being rewarded just by virtue of showing up and buying Amway products and tools. That in a nutshell is Amway’s retirement plan according to all the assholes in our upline.

Spending all that money on the Amway scam sounds like the IBO is funding the retirement program of the person who owns Amway and the Diamonds who are perched at the top of the pyramid. That’s where the money goes! It flows up. Not down.

The BEST Amway retirement plan is to quit Amway. I averaged out that it costs between $500 and $700/month to be an Amway IBO. Maybe higher for some people who get carried away buying Amway products and tools to impress their upline which only goes on for as long as there is room on the credit card. Take that $500/month and invest it in some kind of retirement savings plan. That money could be a down payment on a condo or house to be rented out. There’s monthly residual income right there and when the time is right sell it for a profit. Or $500/month could be invested in the stock market. The possibilities are endless where one can invest an extra $500 or more a month. And probably means having money ready for retirement either in the form of dividends, rent payments, or selling stocks.

Put simply, the more time you spend stuck inside the Amway pyramid scheme throwing your money away at the great Amway gods is less money that you can put towards your retirement goals.

When you’re in Amway all your disposable income must go to purchasing Amway products or investing in the Amway tool scam. There is no extra money to put towards retirement savings.

Be smart. Quit Amway and start funding your own retirement plan instead of making the fat cat bosses at Amway richer.


Stick with Amway = being broke by the time you are ready to retire.


  1. I find it hard to believe that someone can throw between $500 and $700 a month down the Amway rat-hole, when they could instead save it or invest it wisely. Hell, even if you just stuck the money into your mattress it would he a better deal!

    The only way you can stop people from doing what is sensible and profitable is to propagandize them against it. And that's just what Amway does. It screams at you that any kind of investment or savings plan or real property is a mistake, and that all such things should be liquidated so that you have cash to spend on your meaningless Amway "business."

    You see, if you have stocks or bonds or savings plans or real property, you are financially independent already. And Amway doesn't want that. It wants you to be totally dependent on the fake, "let's-pretend" business called Amway.

    Amway is a loathsome moral cancer. It needs to be destroyed.

    1. Anonymous - you and I might it hard to believe that Ambots throw away hundreds of dollars a month tithing the Great Amway God but then we haven't been brainwashed by this evil cult.

      We take a more sensible, financially responsible way to handle our money. And someone like me is none too happy to see money being thrown away down the Amway shit hole. And what do we get in return? SHIT!

      There's better ways that are more fun to throw away your money. I mean even if you go to Las Vegas you got a better chance of making money in the casino than you do making money in Amway.

      Retirement plan Vegas!

  2. Amway actually hates financial independence in its IBOs. It doesn't trust something like that.

    Amway wants its IBOs to be helpless and dependent so that they will be forced to obey up-line's orders slavishly. An IBO with substantial savings, or real property, or a portfolio of investments, is anathema to them. They'll insist that he liquidate it all.

    What amazes me is that some people are stupid enough to do it!

    1. Anonymous - that's right. People like us who already owned a business and made more money than the Platinum, hell probably more than some low level Diamonds who weren't getting their share of the pie when it comes to the Amway tool scam, we were put down at Amway meetings. Oddly because the Scamway meetings were all about own your own business. Be your own boss. Be an entrepreneur. But really no business advice given at Amway "business meetings". So yes Amway and the assholes in the Amway upline hate financial independence in IBOs especially ones who own a real business and own houses and nice cars. Just because the fuckers in your Amway upline aren't at that stage in their life we were told to go backwards, sell the nice car and buy an Amway shitmobile and use the extra dollars to buy more shitty overpriced Amway products. Sell the house and rent and use the money from the sale of the house to buy more shitty overpriced Amway products - preaching the old bullshit invest in your own business. That's the type of Amway "business advice" and "financial advice" you get from fucking Amway losers.

      What amazes me is that people are stupid enough to get involved with Amway in the first place. There is so much information online about the financial and emotional distress and if the prospect talks to people and they say don't get involved Amway's a scam. And they still sign up! Stupid! And this is before the brainwashing even starts.

  3. After the hustle and bustle of a busy work life that spans in decades, isn’t it imperative to spend the after-work life, called retirement, with lesser stress and more security? This is where the importance of retirement planning comes to the fore.

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    1. LOL Terrance. This blog has nothing to do with retirement planning! LOL! This blog is all about cursing out fucking Amway assholes. This post makes fun of Amway losers who think Amway will be their retirement plan.


Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
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