Monday, June 11, 2018

Shoveling Shit At Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2018


Let’s throw out a hypothetical situation. Say you got offered a job to shovel shit for $10,000. The choice is to shovel shit for one day or shovel shit for 3 days. Either way you get paid $10,000. Most people would take the one day job. You work less and get paid the same amount.

Now why do you suppose in 2016 Puryear Family Reunion was only for one day and specifically the arena is booked for 2-11pm so 9 hours but Puryear probably has to book it for 12 hours, lets say an hour on either end for ambots to come in and out and maybe an hour early for slave ambots to set things up. On another post someone pointed out that it costs less to rent an arena for one day compared to renting an arena for 3 days. Puryear cut their operating costs by renting the arena for only one day this time. I don’t know what it costs to rent the arena but often it doesn’t cost as much as you’d think because the arena is dinging participants on parking fees and concession sales and that’s where they make their money. So Puryear makes a decision based on a cost cutting measure. He can get paid the same amount in ticket sales whether he shovels shit for one day compared to 3 days for Family Reunion. Good decision for him. Expenses versus income he spends less money on arena rental and makes the same amount of money on ticket sales that is if the Amway cult leaders are keeping the ambots in line forcing them to attend this brainwashing conference.

It looks like Duncan drew the short straw because he shoveled shit for 3 days for the same money at Duncan Family Reunion 2016.

But you know what? The brainwashed Amway Ambots probably think they’re getting a better deal by going to the 3 day bullshit function because either way the ticket price is the same. It all depends on which side of the stage you’re standing on.

And speaking of shit…. Amway WWDB cult leaders only give out vague shit about their brainwashing conference so Ambots hit the Internet and read what those of us share about our experiences and what we heard and saw and what we really think of Amway functions those Amway ambots get furious that we get the truth out there and load up the comment box that we’re quitters, we’re losers, we’re lazy, we didn’t work hard enough, we’re fat, we’re ugly, we’re unchristian, we’re dream stealers, etc etc. And all the other negative Amspeak that Amway assholes throw around because they’re the most negative fucking bastards around. But you’ll notice that Amway Ambots use the Peewee Herman handbook of “I know you are but what am I” philosophy and Amway losers go around accusing the rest of the world of being negative.

Because WWDB and Amway keep the information surrounding their major functions very secretive its not easy to find out stuff unless you’re unfortunate enough to be an Amway ambot and have the assholes in your Amway upline drilling into you over and over the dates and the amount due of the next Amway WWDB conference at every Amway meeting you go to. There are probably other Amway Family Reunions out there but this post features the Amway WWDB Family Reunion whether you’re going to kiss Puryears ass or Duncans ass. The cost used to be $250 and that included a hotel room, well technically sharesies as they anticipate couples showing up but in 2016 the price was $210 and no hotel. For Puryear Amway Family Reunion 2017 the price was $175 according to a reader who left a comment. And that’s surprising that those greedy Amway cult leaders have lowered the price which may mean they’ve also lowered the amount of time Ambots have to listen to them spout off their bullshit Amspeak. Or that ticket sales are dropping and they’ve lowered the price to attract more losers to buy tickets. You Ambots need to figure out where you’re sleeping and how many Amway losers you can cram into one hotel room. Ambots must shell out their own money for transportation, hotel, money to eat real food, and other incidental costs that I’m not thinking about. Buying the ticket is the cheapest part of wasting time, money and brain cells at this Amway meeting.  Most IBO’s spend closer to $1000.

And what’s in store for the Amway ambots who are fucked up enough to waste their money going to WWDB Duncan Family Reunion 2018. And yeah I’m picking on Duncan cause I know what happens in 3 days compared to Puryears 9 hour dog and pony show. How the fuck was Puryear planning to get all those new Platinums on stage that’s part of the World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion ritual? Fuck them Platinums. Not many new ones anyway. They can squeeze into the Duncan Family Reunion so here’s what’ll happen.

On Friday night there will be some sort of trade show where Amway’s shitty overpriced products will be on display and some Amway loser will be extolling the virtues with a bunch of jaw dropping wide eyed Ambots listening in awe. And maybe a seminar featuring an Amway product or the latest must have in the Amway tool scam. Mostly it’ll be a bunch of Ambots walking around bullshitting each other that their PV or BV or their sales or whatever is skyrocketing and business is going great. Probably no Amway cult leaders will show up to sign autographs or take selfies so any Amway losers hoping to be in the company of any of their worships will be disappointed.

On Saturday the Ambots will be bored by recently qualified Platinums and Rubys. You know how that goes. Those bastards will stand up on the stage kissing ass and sucking dick. They’re allotted about 10 minutes each. It only seems like it drags on for hours each because they’re so fucking boring and say the same thing. And they’re all going Diamond!!!! Woo Hoo! Go Diamond! Yeah! And all the brainwashed Amway ambots in the audience will scream and cheer “Yeah!” “Right on!”

What is your story? No, I’m not asking for your story here but feel free to share if you want. What is your story was the theme at Duncan Amway Family Reunion a couple of years ago. And they claim every story is the same. Well no shit, they got to slightly change their stories don’t they. Gotta keep the crowd entertained with fresh material. I mean they can’t all come onstage and say she used to be a waitress and he used to clean porta potties. They need to coordinate so the next ones come out and say she used to be a cashier and he used to pump gas. And if they can do it then anyone can. Yeah! Sneer and insult that audience!

On Saturday night some Diamonds will show up to brainwash the cult followers to have a dream and believe their dream and the only way their dream will come true is to stay in Amway and buy buy buy into the Amway tool scam. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

On Sunday morning one of the Amway cult leaders will preach a church service to the Ambots. And of course they’ll be passing a hat so the cult leader can steal some extra cash off the followers. Then in the afternoon the Diamonds will try to bullshit the Amway cult members about building a business.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amway WWDB Worldwide Dream Builders claim during the Family Reunion weekend there will also be technology training, product expos, and motivational and promotional videos. Yeah we’ve all seen those professionally shot staged videos where there are mansions and sports cars and the Diamonds brag about their lifestyle.

But what about the workshops? They had a Satinique aka Satanique workshop all about brainwashing the ambots to spend $25 on a hair care product instead of the one they can buy for $2 at Walmart. And the Walmart one will be better quality. Oh wait, I just stole the IBO “line” for bullshitting people into why they pay more money for shitty overpriced Amway products.

Then there was Body Key by Nutrilite - a new weight loss system that Amway IBO’s are flogging. Amway just changes the name every few years but the high prices and the no results and no support don’t change. Likely the sales pitch that Amway ambots are taught to use on potential customers doesn’t change either. “You’re fat! I sell a weight loss program for $600. Wanna buy it fatso?”

Then there was a workshop about competitive comparison. Holy shit Amway better stand the fuck down on this one! That’s their downfall. They’ll lose every time! Everyone who does comparison shopping knows they can go anywhere else and buy lower priced, better quality products than what Amway offers. This workshop apparently will teach Amway ambots how to bullshit customers into believing they are paying more money for better quality. You know the old Amway ambot line: wouldn’t you like to pay more money for better quality? Not necessarily. If someone is lower priced and gets the job done that’s good enough for me. Besides nothing Amway sells is better quality than its counterparts at Costco or Walmart or anywhere else. Paying more money at Amway, yes. But you ain’t paying for quality. You’re paying so every asshole in the Amway upline can get a piece of the commission and so Amway can make a good profit too for its owners.

How does everyone like the sounds of this workshop - World Wide Group presents “What’s New”. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!! LOL!!!!

Who will be brainwashing the masses at Amway World Wide Dream Builders Family Function?

Damned if I know because those Amway motherfuckers are keeping it top secret but here’s some of the old tired crew that shows up at all these events to get their share of the proceeds of the ticket sales:

Glen and Joya Baker
Greg and Laurie Duncan (presenting chapter 11 workshops!)
Jim and Judy Head
Dave Severn
Matt and Sandee Tsuruda
Dan and Sandy Yuen
Jim and Kelly Puryear

But don’t blame me if they don’t all show up. Any of them can fall out of Diamond qualification any time. The missing snake oil salesmen must be really fucking pissed off they’re not getting a piece of the pie of the Family Reunion ticket sale profits. This is how they make the bulk of their income after all.

It appears for 2018 Duncan is taking a page out of Puryears book and only having a one day event and its called Duncan Motivation Inc instead of WWDB Family Reunion and its only for one day on July 11 2018 at the Portland Convention Center and you can click here to see pretty much zero details https://www.oregoncc.org/events/2018/07/duncan-motivation-inc 

Family Reunion sucks!

Duncan Motivation sucks!

Amway sucks!

World Wide Dream Builders sucks!

Wanna know how to piss off the assholes in your Amway upline? Save your money and stay home!

Ever get an obscene desire to listen to a bunch of fucking liars shoveling out bullshit? Then it sounds like you need to get to the nearest Amway Family Reunion.



26 comments:

  1. I've yet to see a breakdown of where all the WWDB funds are distributed (not just the functions but the 130-150 dollars per month on audios and Communikate plus the monthly events plus the functions which can work out to well over 2,000 dollars a year for merely "training material"). Its funny but they never bring it up.
    On a side note, I rather enjoy shoving shit (fertilizer) for my garden. It has a lot of nutrients and makes my veggies and herbs grow very well!!!

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    1. Anonymous- we’ll never know that highly guarded secret from the Amway cult leaders other than the infighting on how to split greed pie.

      Of course the Ambots have been brainwashed to believe the cult leaders are here to help them out of the goodness of their hearts, not for profit.

      Yum sounds like all that shoveling shit is going to bring a good crop!

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    2. I have a garden of veggies and herbs to grow healthy and eat once they're ripped for the harvesting. I saved up for years and my money never have a problem financially. I go to college and learn to stay away from bad people. I have a moral character what is right and wrong.
      I also have close selective family members by blood that knows better not to trust con artists.

      Amway doesn't sounds like for me...it sounded like greedy people who's desperate for attention and might lead into a future disaster both emotionally and financially.

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    3. Anonymous - Amway is not for you or anyone else for that matter. All Amway does is bring you financial and emotional distress.

      And if you have morals - well for sure Amway isn't for you cause you have to be good at lying and scamming people to make any money.

      As for your garden of fresh produce Amway losers will sneer at you because Amway sells a vitamin that you can eat instead of eating fresh produce.

      LOL!

      Scammers!

      What can fill up a person more? Eating a vitamin or eating an orange or apple or persimmon or a carrot or banana or whatever you choose to eat fresh from your garden.

      Amway is the Cult of Greed. All Ambots must worship the Great Amway God and become materialistic.

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  2. Yep, I've heard the out of the goodness out of their heart explanation...if its out of the goodness of their heart, why aren't the audios free? Or in a price range that's more reasonable? 50 dollars a month to talk to people on Communikate...and they make it hard to leave, you actually have to send a letter/and or fax to them to cancel, why can't you just click it off with a option right on your computer like a normal company? I've heard that upline gets a kickback on the Communikate (which is never discussed) which is just rotten. I believe it because when I was signing up it asked for and showed who your upline Platinum was on Communikate....so effed up my current cell plan is 10 dollars a month...not paying that kind of money for a computer phone system.
    So much bullshit. And not the high quality kind I can use for my garden ha ha.

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    1. Anonymous - yeah the asshole Platinums and Emeralds say the Diamonds are showing up out of the goodness of their hearts to "help" us bullshit. Well if they really wanted to help us they'd be speaking for free. Even if they have to go to a local park or the beach or someone's house. As you pointed out why aren't audios free? Why isn't membership into the cult sect like WWDB free?

      The Amway tool scam exists so these cult leaders can make money off the brainwashed Ambots.

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  3. Anna,

    Every ones got a smart phone as someone should video the event edit it of course mocking the BS as it could really be funny!

    And our Anna can write the screenplay as what else can one do with these stupid fucks?

    At least you are funny and entertaining yet you educate people on how distructive Amway really is as keep up the good work and I can't believe I have been out for over 40 years and have a life that any Ambot can only dream about except mine is real!

    That I say not to brag but to show that even if one is scammed one can pick up recover and move on!

    As the time I wasted on Amway while young has been graciously returned to me after a life of service and sound investment of both time and money!

    Take our advice dear Ambot quit and move on as life will get better quickly!

    K

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    1. KMB - the secret to this blog's success is entertaining as well as educating.

      It's a lot of fun cursing out Amway assholes too!

      And when this blog started there weren't that many around so most were getting lots of visitors. Besides the swearing and calling out Amway assholes the other thing that made this blog different was run by women. And not saying the men who have anti-Amway blogs out there aren't great and doing a good job of spelling out the Amway pyramid scheme its just that no women were out there blogging about what it's really like inside Amway and watching what this pyramid scheme does to your family and watching your husband get brainwashed. This is the real deal telling it like it is.

      And how many people live vicariously through this blog. The ones who really want to curse out the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. This blog is their voice.

      If you're young enough you can bounce back financially and emotionally from Amway. If you're older it's not so easy starting over when you've been scammed out of your life savings that you'd planned on using in retirement.

      Amway - the only job you'll have where you lose your money and your friends.

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  4. I'm a former WWDB/Amway distributor from Alberta, Canada. I quit (Nov 2017) after bleeding red for 19 months straight, as well as being a pariah to Co-workers, friends and family.

    Below is a "word for word" conversation with a current Dream Schemer, "Ivan" via text only a day old. I love the guy; but only now can I witness the extent of my brainwashing from the outside looking in.

    After exchanging pleasantries....

    {ME} "I will put it simply.

    If your monthly revenue exceeds operating expenses I.e
    -Premium membership
    -Standing Orders
    -CommuniKate
    -Personal consumption of severely Overpriced Amway products
    -Boardplans & Major functions
    -Gas and wear & tear of your vehicle
    -Snacks, coffees etc....

    ...thus you are turning a profit, then please carry on and I wish you the best in your endeavors. ��

    *but if you are in the RED like 98% of IBOs(myself included) according to Amway's stats, then I urge you to consider yourself duped.

    If you have Netflix please watch "Betting On Zero"."

    {IVAN} "It sounds like you gave up on your dream... I remember how excited you were when I talked with you last. Sorry to hear that outside influences and people with no dream convinced you to give up on yours.

    Everything worth something takes time to build.

    Why did you leave? You looked up stats? that's funny because Amway has no idea about the world wide people.


    Also you said severely overpriced products. Sounds like you never understood how high quality, exclusive products could create a future for yourself. My guess is you will go back to shopping at Walmart. Well it's 50 years to (sic)expensive to shop from a store that you don't own."

    {ME} "Deflection. The answer is NO.
    Thanks for being cordial.

    The primary commodity of MLMs is false hope, except it's a hundred times more expensive than a lottery ticket.

    At the end of the day it's your hard earned money, your time and choice.

    I still have dreams Ivan. Last September I refused to be part of a money-transfer scheme for a bunch of conmen peddling the 'prosperity gospel' disguised as sound financial advice.

    *my ex and I used those products and they were nothing to write home about. Mediocre & overpriced?, absolutely!"

    {IVAN} "Sure it's more of an investment than a lottery ticket but It's totally worth it to invest in growing your self image, your leadership, and to intentionally pursue good people don't you think?

    At the end of the day this opportunity is about people not companies. Sounds like you had a bad experience if you think it's anything to do with a prosperity gospel.

    I'm excited to live a life that reflects my values and getting to invest and build people so they can go out and create an amazing life. I have never heard a prosperity gospel preached.

    I don't care about the products that's not what it is about, but if it will allow me to create finacial independence then I am all for it.

    I hope whatever path you choose to pursue you find success and significance."


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    1. Hi Simita. Thanks for stopping by with your story!

      First off way to go for finally figuring out that Amway is a scam and only a tiny percentage of participants will make money.

      Now you can start getting yourself back on track financially.

      And Ivan is proving to all of us that Ambots still use the old bullshit about Amway's products are high priced because they're high quality. LOL! Amway's products are mediocre at best and in most cases substandard.

      The real reason that Amway's products are overpriced is because the owners need to make a good profit and then everytime you make a sale, everyone upline gets a percentage.

      That's how pyramid schemes operate.

      You have some good insight for anyone stopping by this blog that is thinking of joining the Amway cult.

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  5. Btw, I should add I'm an African immigrant. Immigrants are the new targets of MLM propaganda for obvious reasons. Infact the new growth areas are non-white nations choc full of desperation, prosperity gospel bullshit, and 0 regulations and laws.

    **At the end Ivan decided that it was worth it to shell thousands of dollars a year so long as he was whipped into a frenzy whilst fed bucketfuls of 'feel-good personal growth' hype!

    Joel motherf**n Osteen is still free on youtube... sad!

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    1. Simita - immigrants have always been high on Amway's criteria of prospecting recruits. Don't feel bad. It is NOT new for immigrants to be targets. That's been taught at Amway cult meetings for decades.

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  6. Ivan admits that he doesn't care about the Amway products, and that "that's not what the company is about."

    He's just admitted that Amway is a pyramid scheme, based primarily on recruitment rather than sales.

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    1. Anonymous- Ambots hate it when they get trapped. Sounds like it’s time for Ivan to lie, deny, distract and defend. The life of an Amway Ambot.

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  7. Hi Anna. Thanks so much for this blog! Unfortunately my wife still is an Ambot, despite all of the rational concerns I have set forth over the last 2 years. Anyway, she is off to the aforementioned Family Reunion (Danzig) in Colorado. She leaves tonight, while I am at home with her real family. Can't tell you how much this consternation this has caused me and the strain it has put on our marriage. We live paycheck to paycheck, yet have spent thousands of dollars on their bullshit product without even recruiting a single downline in over two years. What a shame. Praying for it all to end before my marriage does.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by. Were you the guy leaving comments here a couple of years ago about being engaged to an Ambot. And we all tried to steer you away from getting married.

      Marrying an Ambot is like marrying a junkie. You got to be prepared to handle all the household finances and support your husband/wife's expensive habit too.

      Here's the hard truth. You will never be more important to your wife than her Amway family. That's why she chooses to spend her time with the ones she loves more.

      You aren't even in the top 5 when it comes to her order of importance. You rank lower than a box of Amway soap.

      Not trying to rag on you. It's the truth. Whether its you or anyone else out there married to an Ambot.

      It's a helpless feeling.

      Marriages are hard enough with finances being a huge source of fights. Throw in a cult and all the money that has to be tithed to the Great Amway God and that makes it even more stressful.

      A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck but their goal should be reducing their debt not adding more on to it. There's no money left over for savings or fun stuff. Did you see that post we did a few months ago from Go Banking Rates about how few Americans have money saved for retirement.

      That's you.

      And your wife has been in Amway more than 2 years. That's pretty much a lifer at that point. She won't be leaving.

      Good luck to you.

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    2. Nope, not me. Unfortunately I have invested close to 22 years in this marriage. She was recruited by her upline (young affable female) at a local Starbucks. Of course, you know the rest of the story. So I was never "engaged" to Ambot, as I can assure you I never would have taken the plunge. And in 20 years of marriage, I never would have thought of GTFO. But her Amway addiction makes it more and more plausible to do so with each passing day. Sucks.

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    3. One other thing I meant to add. What is really diabolical about their model is that they tell you WWDB will help you get out of debt by creating new wealth. Such bullshit. And they parade all of these so called success rags to riches stories as these conferences as the bait that keeps the cultists coming back for more. It sickens me. And like you and others have said, if you don't go, you are an outcast. If you don't succeed, you are just not trying hard enough. And if someone is negative about WWDB, you don't need that negativity around you. So you can see why I am ready to get the hell out. Glad you and your spouse worked things out. Would love to know specifically was the turning point. I am sure you posted it somewhere here. Thanks again for the blog. It was bookmarked the day I found it.

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    4. Hi Anonymous. Judging by how long you've been married you must be at least in your 40s. You should have at least $40,000 socked away in savings or investments. But when you're in Amway the cult steals all your savings and pushes you into debt.

      You're at a tough age. People in their 20s who got scammed by Amway are still young enough to bounce back financially and emotionally. The older you are, the less time you have in the work force to get your finances back under control. You have to do whatever you can to save your sanity and your money.

      Amway Ambots are lurking everywhere looking for prospects and coffee shops and fast food restaurants are popular recruiting spots. When we were in the cult and meeting at a coffee shop no one could afford to buy anything. We usually got a snack and the sack of shit Platinum would order Ambot to get him something. Everyone else just stood around taking up space.

      Yes to the getting out of debt thing that is huge on the bullshit meter at every Amway cult meeting. The reality is Amway puts people further into debt and further away from reaching their financial goals.

      Most people quit Amway within a few months when they figure out they lost money and got scammed. My husband was the same after a few months. Spending less money on shitty overpriced Amway products and not attending Amway cult meetings unless the fucking assholes in the upline rode his ass.

      Amway is all about destroying relationships. Nothing gives those Amway losers more happiness than busting up someone's marriage. I don't want you to think for a minute that your wife's upline isn't leaning on her to end your relationship and that she should find a significant other who will support her Amway business. They are telling her that you're the reason she's failing in Amway because you're a negative unchristian unsupportive husband. It's all part of brainwashing. The tactics the Amway cult uses is probably no different than most cults.

      I'm glad you find the blog helpful and I hope you have people in your life you can talk to about your situation and get advice. Have you gone to a financial planner at your bank? If nothing else you can get the banker to look at the Amway "business plan" and see if your wife can get a business loan. Prepare to get laughed right out of there. But yeah try enlisting professionals who can help with financial advice or maybe a business lawyer who can evaluate the Amway business plan and knock some sense into her that she's gotten scammed.

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  8. Thanks for the thorough response, Anna. Just turned 50 as a matter of fact. Live in a high-cost area (real estate), so that is the primary reason we are in a pinch. That said, we have two kids in high school and college is looming, so there is not a ton of wiggle room. I hate to see our hard earned money get frittered for overpriced shit products and motivational speeches from false prophets. Another thing that adds to my stress is that I have carried the financial burden practically throughout our marriage. I hate keeping "score" with my spouse. That can be a very touchy subject for obvious reasons. But when you have accounted for 75%+ of your household income, the shit gets old and my patience only gets thinner with each passing argument about why I think Amway misrepresents their success rate to the naive and unwitting, and she parrots the upline's platitudes and talking points.

    I am giving her one more year for her to save her from herself and the cult. In the meantime, I will drop not so subtle hints to my In-laws that our marriage is in trouble, and if they don't talk sense into her soon (tired of wasting my breath), I will serve her with papers. It will not be a good day for me or our kids who I love dearly. But I have no other choice to give her the ultimate wake up call. And if she chooses Amway over her family, she will have to live with that for the rest of her life. We will move on, with or without her.

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    1. My first thought is if you have high school kids you may have started a savings account for their college. Do you keep track of it? If your wife let that slip to the Amway cult leaders they told her to drain it and buy Amway shit and then she can sign up her kids to be downline and they can all be rich together being commissioned sales reps. Check the account balance.

      Not that I'm trying to make a sexist statement here but historically men make more money than women and to this day wage disparity exists. The fact that you make 3 times as much money as your wife has not been an issue before Amway. But now that a cult is stealing your money its become a real issue.

      How many years does she need to figure out she got scammed? She's had sufficient time to realize she can't sign up any downline and she'll never make money at commissioned sales in the Amway pyramid scheme. It's not going to happen. People in our country are too well informed and can do Internet searches and are staying away. Amway has been losing 10% in sales every year for several years now.

      It's never going to be a good time but maybe when she comes back all fired up from family reunion you can tell her you don't want nothing Amway related in your house. If she doesn't agree she can move out. There's a trial separation. Amway Ambots are notorious for communal living. She can crash with another Ambot. See how that works out for her.

      How much longer do you want to continue living the way you are right now. Paycheck to paycheck because of the Amway cult stealing your money and brainwashing your wife?

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  9. To Unknown --

    Your situation sounds very bad. But keep one fact in mind: without your income, your wife would be financially unable to stay in the Amway fraud.

    Unfortunately, today the divorce courts unfairly favor
    the female spouse, and they will hit you for big alimony and child support payments if you seek divorce. In addition, you would probably have to sell your home or buy out your wife's interest in it.

    Since this is so, the best thing is to confront your wife not with divorce papers, but with this clear statement: "From now on, whatever you pay out for this Amway racket COMES OUT OF YOUR SALARY, NOT MINE."

    Make sure she knows that the cost of being in the Amway fraud is now completely in her hands, and that your salary is for the house, the kids, and the normal expenses of a family. None of your salary will be available to her to waste in the Amway racket.

    Once she begins to feel the pinch of trying to sustain a stupid scheme like Amway on her own meager salary, she may start to see the light.

    A divorce won't free you from this woman -- all it will do is force you to continue subsidizing her insanity via alimony, and child support payments, and a ruinous property settlement. Stay married to her, but keep your salary under your own control, for normal living expenses and NOTHING ELSE.

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    1. Good advice Anonymous. With high school age children the court usually lets them decide who to live with unless there's an extreme reason why choosing one parent wouldn't be suitable. Like being in a cult and neglecting your children. The wife could end up paying him child support though it wouldn't be for much longer. Got to assume they're closing in on 18.

      Divorce is never cheap. We don't know if they own a house or rent. Usually the house is sold and the judge decides how to split the assets and debts.

      But no he shouldn't have to keep living the way he is. A trial separation could be a better solution and help her get her priorities straight.

      The only one winning here is the Great Amway God.

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  10. Terrific advice, guys. Thanks! Yeah, I know wage disparity is an issue, and that's not where I was going with it. But the reality is, she is an admin assistant. Not to denigrate admin assistants, but I am an IT professional and former LEO. It is what it is. Far more responsibility requiring specialized skills, and thus, better compensation. Anywho, the advice about the separate accounts for paying bills is a TERRIFIC idea. Financially starve the Amway beast, and it will die a slow death. Thanks again, guys. Will keep you posted.

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    1. Anonymous - you should try an online bank that has a bank card and checks because it's not so easy to access so you won't be tempted to give in. You can set up your payroll to be deposited directly and automatic withdrawals. You should have a talk with your wife about what bills each of you will be responsible for paying and have them come out of separate bank accounts. But prepared to pay anything that she slides on because she counselled with upline and they told her to skip paying bills and use that money to buy Amway shit instead.

      I still think you could benefit by seeing a financial advisor who can suggest ways to budget and who pays for what out of each bank account and try to convince your wife she's involved in a pyramid scheme.

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  11. To Anonymous- although sympathetic to that person’s situation and we’ll keep that in mind moving forward, we’re not making any changes. This person played a role in bringing misery to many people and does not get any sympathy from me for being a fucking Amway asshole. If they want to leave comments here on various posts updating their status- welcome to do so.

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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
10. Your comment got caught in the spam filter. Gets checked occasionally. We’ll get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isn’t spam.