Our sack of shit Platinum was a dictator who ordered his cult
followers around and demanded complete obedience. They better follow his orders
or else! The or else would be public ridicule at the next Amway cult meeting
where he would berate the unfortunate ambot. And then he would ignore them.
Amway cult excommunication.
I remember an instance where Ambot busted his ass getting our chairs to a cult
meeting but we had something else going on that night and he was unable to
attend. I was pissed off about the chairs. Someone upline had ordered Ambot to
bring the damn chairs even though we weren’t going to be at the cult meeting.
Of course they asked Ambot who was only too happy to serve them seeing as how
the sack of shit Platinum had stroked his ego by calling him a server. No one
called me to ask about borrowing the chairs and bringing them to the
meeting because my answer would be NO. Wait a second. My answer would have been
FUCK NO! If you want to borrow the fucking chairs you can haul ass to our house
and get them. And bring them back the next day. Not the other way around
especially when we’re not even attending. I had stopped going to Amway meetings
and Ambot was not going as frequently by this time. The end was in sight!
We were in the car when the fucking Platinum phoned. It was around 8pm. The
Amway warriors would be waiting for their cult leader to get the meeting going.
Its my guess the sack of shit was sitting in front of the cult followers and
had his phone on speaker.
The whole point of the phone call was to berate my husband because he wasn’t at
the meeting. Ambot didn’t have the phone on speaker but I was sitting next to
him and could hear the fucking Amway asshole chewing him out. Natter natter
natter. Bitch bitch bitch. And Ambot took the abuse silently. Just drove along
with the phone plastered to his ear listening to the sack of shit Platinum
bitch him out. And taking it. He should have passed the phone to me and I’d
have given that fucker an earful!
The next day my husband was talking to another ambot on the phone. I’m nearby
and can catch his end of the phone conversation and I gather he was getting the
gist of how he’d been the brunt of the cult leader’s rant at the previous
night’s meeting. And then he says: “I deserved it.”
Shit! This is how Amway cult leaders brainwash their followers. They are
brainwashed to believe when they don’t shut up and do as they’re told by their
cult leader that they deserve whatever abuse is doled out to them.
It all comes back to “never question upline”. If upline is abusing you its
because you deserve it.
Other “never question upline” comes up when ambots have questions about the
Amway scheme. When my husband tried to talk to the Platinum about the
compensation and said the numbers don’t add up and make sense to him he was
brushed off with “don’t question me. Just shut up and do as you’re told.”
The cult leaders have no answers when downline starts to question how they’re
being swindled. Or if the cult leader said something at a meeting and the cult
follower investigated it further and found out it wasn’t true. Panic must set
in for the cult leaders when they’re questioned so they fire back with the only
ammunition they have “don’t question me. Just shut up and do as you’re told.”
Rather than debate controversial issues our upline was quick to point out
negativity of various media sources.
“I don't watch TV. You can't believe what you hear on TV anyway.” Of course the
WWDB Amway cult leaders don't want people to believe the stuff on TV. The news
stories would cause ambots to snap out of the I-only-listen-to-positive drunken
mindset of the brainwashed Amway IBO.
There is nothing wrong with positive thinking. The problem is our upline Amway
cult leaders who insisted that this that and the other is “negative”.
Brainwashing the IBO’s until they refused to even hear about anything negative.
At one meeting the Emerald drew out a quadrant on the white board to indicate
IBO’s in various stages of climbing the Amway pyramid in relation to how much
TV they were allowed to watch. Lowly ambots who were just getting started were
in the zero TV watching quadrant. As an Emerald he was allowed to watch TV I
just don’t remember how much he assigned himself. Another example of “don’t
question me. Just shut up and do as you’re told.”
Yeah right just cause you tell me I can’t watch TV doesn’t mean I’m going to
stop so fuck off!
What about reading the newspaper? That's considered negative as well. An IBO
should only be reading positive business material, preferably books that speak
positively about the Amway business.
What about looking around on the Internet? That’s considered negative as well
especially if you end up at a website belonging to an Amway critic.
What about listening to the radio while driving the car? That’s also considered
negative. Put in an Amway CD and crank those speakers!
Uh huh now that’s what I consider negative! Ha!
Success rate of telling someone who doesn’t like you to “don’t question me.
Just shut up and do as you’re told”?
Zero! I do the opposite of what you Amway cult leaders order me to do! I hit
the Internet looking for real information about Amway, real experiences by real
people financially and emotionally devastated by this cult. They might not be
happy positive stories but they’re real and true.
Not fakes like you Amway cult leaders.
Our Amway cult leaders were desperate to control the information their
followers received because that restricted the ambot’s free ability to think
for himself.
Our Amway WWDB cult leaders preached to us about not getting wrapped up in
details such as how many customers we’re supposed to have in order to be
earning a commission check from Amway. This questioning of upline authority
could ruin our business even if we suspect we’re following upline that aren’t
exactly running their business morally or legally.
“Don’t question me! Just shut the fuck up and do as you’re told!”
I am amazed that Amway still acts as though it is 1950. Women in their place. The man runs the home as a petty dictator and expects deference from his wife and kids. All like one of those 1950s and 60s American sit-coms. So people have to dress up in suits and ties and all meetings must take place in person. They probably still insist on people paying for the voicemail service as though anyone even uses voicemail and certainly to pay for a voicemail service is absurd.
ReplyDeleteThe amounts of money that they claim you can make probably have not changed all that much. You can join Amway and make $100K a year!!! Wow! Most professionals probably make much more than that so where is the incentive to join?
Further to your point above though, if all of this stuff is real why not have a simple computer model of the hierarchy. At the top is the corporation and below that two or three super-duper-diamond-emerald-dudes or whatever they are called and then the lines below extending downwards for ever. The model could show clearly how if you join 15 levels below the corporation you can still make money. It could tell you exactly what your commission will be from the downline chain that they are asking you to build. You would then have exactly an idea of what you are aiming for and could decide for yourself whether it has even a microscopic chance of happening. Instead you are given formulae that are not understandable and a set of vague rules that contradict each other. If I want to become rich I need a downline that does all the work while I sit on the beach correct? However at the same time if I don't do the work my downline gets taken from me? Which is it? Why can't you have a computer model that allows me to simulate my own downline scenarios? I would be more than happy to write a programme of this kind for a fee of course. I doubt that any MLM scammer would actually take me up on that offer though.
Aussie Hillbilly - I've always said I want to see more transparency from ScAmway when it comes to compensation doing a model such as you suggested that shows how much money the Ambot spends on Amway and how much income they make.
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Asshole Emerald spent $1000 a month buying Amway shit and another $1000 a month on buying tickets to Amway brainwashing conferences and travel expenses to get to them. Asshole Emerald starts to get a cut of the Amway tool scam income and earns $3,000 a month or nets $1,000 a month. These figures based on former Amway Emeralds who say they made between $2,000 and $3,000 a month. A far cry below what is bragged about at Amway cult meetings.
Next is Shithead Platinum. Reaching Platinum is the break even point in the Amway hierarchy. Shithead spends $1,000 a month buying shitty Amway products and investing in the Amway tool scam. Shithead makes $1,000 a month in commission from the suckers in his downline.
Then we have Fucker Eagle who spends about the same amount every month as Shithead so $1,000 but doesn't have a lot of downline so loses most of that money. Gets commission check of $40 to $50 a month, net monthly loss $950.
Then we have the majority of Amway cult followers - Loser Ambot who spends $700 to $1,000 a month and earns back a commission of $10 mostly money back on the Amway shit they self consume.
Get a Costco money back card and shop there instead of Amway and make more money!
No fucking way Amway or any of the Amway cult sects want these realistic profit and loss details getting out there to prospects so they can see Amway is a system designed for failure.
The whole point behind all of this deliberate doubletalk and contradiction in Amway is this: KEEP THEM CONFUSED!
ReplyDeleteYour up-line (and the thieving scumbags in Ada, Michigan) already know that most recruited IBOs are somewhat simple-minded, and driven by emotion rather than guided by reason. That's the only way you can get them to join the racket in the first place.
The only way to keep them in the racket is to never give a straight answer to them about anything. Always throw glib slogans at them ("Amway is for winners!") or blatant lies ("Every one of you can make $100,00 a year!") or religious commandments ("Never question up-line!")
The example that Anna describes above is a perfect biopsy slide of how goddamned SICK Amway is. Her husband agrees to a selfish and inconvenient request that he bring chairs to a meeting. And what is his reward? Before he even brings them he is abused and publicly attacked. The meeting itself become a hate-fest against him because he could not attend. Simple courtesy is gone, thoughtfulness is gone -- you have a loudmouth Platinum bastard screaming insults at the poor man.
Amway is a sick, perverted, diseased corporation that is interested in nothing but squeezing cash out of its victims, and demeaning them like they were slave labor.
Thanks Anonymous. Amway cult leaders throw around dollar signs and a bunch of fast talk in order to confuse the Ambots. And if an Ambot dares speak up to say the numbers don't add up they'll get screeched at NEVER QUESTION UPLINE!!!!
DeleteAmway is a sick corporation that spits out the participants into a spiral of emotional and financial distress and destroys lives. The Amway cult leaders dangle the love carrot and dish out abuse at the same time.
And you summed it up: Amway is a sick, perverted, diseased corporation that is interested in nothing but squeezing cash out of its victims, and demeaning them like they were slave labor.
It is yet another disgusting aspect of this whole industry how politics, business and religion interact to fleece the vulnerable. By which I mean the kinds of business, politics and religion which claim to be really caring for the poor and marginalised. The people whose jobs were lost to globalisation and who seem for whatever reason to have any reason for hope in the future.
DeleteThese people generally have no mathematical skills or the world experience to question the superficial nonsense they are presented with. I feel that the kinds of people who were attracted to Amway 20 years ago would now never touch it so the corporation has moved to the really vulnerable.
These charlatans at the same time as they claim to be paragons of virtue and some sort of puritanical protestant value system would quite happily steal every one of these people's dollars and leave them destitute. I wonder how they reconcile their professed values with their actions or perhaps as some scholars have stated, the logical extension of the protestant Sola Scriptura is eventually to deny the need for scripture and finally the need for God as well. In such a system of thought you can quite easily believe yourself to be virtuous because virtue becomes whatever you believe it to be. The fools you profit off deserve their fate. If they were smarter they would not be fleeced by you. A kind of Ayn Randian world view with a pseudo-religious facade.
Hi Aussie HIllbilly. The Ambots at the bottom of the pyramid have no business sense and that includes mathematical skills. If they were keeping track of the money coming in and the money going out they'd figure out real fast they got scammed. Instead the Amway cult leaders tell the Ambots not to do this and in most cases Ambots have no clue what profit and loss statements are. These are people who have very slim chance of becoming real business owners. In Amway its a game of make belief where they can play at being pretend business owners. And in Amway the facts don't matter.
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