Wednesday, June 14, 2017
Amway WWDB World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2017
I can see I have my work cut out for me to find out about Amway WWDB Family Reunion. Can you believe those motherfuckers at World Wide Dream Builders changed their guest login? To keep out bloggers like us from checking out what bullshit they’re peddling.
So if anyone knows what the current user name and password is to log in as a guest, leave a comment so we can get in and find out what top secret bullshit the Amway cult leaders will be flinging this year.
In the past Amway WWDB Family Reunion also goes by either Puryear Family Reunion held in Spokane Washington or Duncan Family Reunion held in Portland Oregon over a July weekend. Friday night is usually a trade show and the Amway brainwashing conference is held on Saturday and Sunday. It also used to start first thing in the morning preaching their bullshit Amspeak until 11pm that night and Sunday usually the brainwashing conference ended around 5pm.
There’s usually some other Amway cult sects Family Reunions floating around in the summertime but they’re top secret stuff. Ask the Amway upline for more information about it and the answer goes something like “It’s a life changing event”. “It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity.” “it’s the not to be missed Amway function of the year” “By going to Family Reunion it’ll put you 6 months ahead of everyone who didn’t go”. Well that tells you sweet piss all so you can see why Amway Ambots end up at this blog desparately searching to find out what WWDB Amway Family Reunion is about.
In the past its been pretty easy for Ambots to go to both Puryear Family Reunion and Duncan Family Reunion because they’re held on different weekends in different states. How many Amway ambots need a double dose of brainwashing? It’s hard to say if Puryear Family Reunion is still going ahead due to the cult leader’s death but others in the family might be picking up the ticket sales to fatten their bank accounts.
Prices for Amway Ambots going to Family Reunion? World Wide Destructive Bastards puts together packages including one night hotel (their choice of hotel) and ticket to the Amway brainwashing conference so pay up whether or not you use the hotel! Or more than likely cram 10 other Ambots into the same room though I don’t know why they would because there doesn’t seem to be individual ticket prices to just go to the Amway brainwashing sessions. Last years prices were $340 for a single or $560 for a couple. Add $10 if you miss the early bird discount. And you don’t want to do that or you’ll be in for a shit kicking from the assholes in your Amway upline demanding you pay up NOW!!!! Apparently it also includes meals on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Amway’s idea of a meal and my idea of a meal is probably thousands of miles apart. Get ready to pick up a food bar and can of XS when you enter the room is probably what’ll happen. If they’re really generous they’ll be passing out a Nutrilite vitamin for you too but I doubt they’ll be that generous. And here I might be going out on a limb and wondering it there’ll be a meal involved at all.
For Amway World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2017 one of our readers let us know that this year’s theme will be INSPIRE. Like holy fuck! Previous years the themes have been just as cult inspriring – DREAM and BELIEVE. Some WWDB bigwig must have been INSPIRED to stop playing hotel reservationist to make extra money and just sell tickets to the brainwashing conference because this year the cost is $175 and is hosted by GL Puryear and Jim and Bobbie(?) Puryear featuring the same old tired speakers that show up every year to get a cut of the ticket sales.
The speakers are always the same old boring bastards who’ve been around forever. Hey what happened to those Diamonds Amway Ambots were bragging about who joined the ranks 2 years ago? No sign of them. Still Diamonds? Does the old guard just not want to share their piece of greed pie with the young’uns?
What happens at Amway WWDB Family Reunion? If you believe the World Wide Destructive Bastards propaganda - and only a brainwashed Ambot would! - it’s a function that may or may not include hotel accommodations and two meals – depending on the Amway cult sect - and now it might just be paying for meetings and some of the speakers will be recently qualified Platinum and Ruby IBOs who talk about the rewards of building an Amway building an Amway business. The rest of the speakers will be Diamonds who talk about the power of having a dream and believing your dream will come true if you want success in Amway. Apparently they’ll be teaching effective business methods (LOL! I guess there’s a first for everything!). All weekend (again if you believe the Amway WWDB propaganda) will be technology training, product demonstrations, and motivational videos. The last I have no doubt about. Videos. Not motivational. Just videos showing how rich Diamonds are thanks to the Amway tool scam.
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Now for what really happens at Amway Family Reunion.
And what’s in store for the Amway ambots who are fucked up enough to waste their money going to WWDB Amway Family Reunion 2017. On Saturday they’ll be bored by recently qualified Platinums and Rubys. You know how that goes. Those bastards will stand up on the stage kissing ass and sucking dick. They’re allotted about 10 minutes each. It only seems like it drags on for hours each because they’re so fucking boring and say the same thing. And they’re all going Diamond!!!! Woo Hoo! Go Diamond! Yeah! And all the brainwashed Amway ambots in the audience will scream and cheer “Yeah!” “Right on!”
And now for what happens when those ass kissing Platinums and Rubys are done…. There will be a never ending parade of Ken and Barbie Diamonds stomping across the stage. Brainwashed ambots will shriek and rush the stage to get closer to their beloved cult leaders. The arena’s security staff will beat them off. “Get back to your seats motherfuckers!!!!” Ambot Barbie will talk first. She’ll say something like I was working a minimum wage job as a waitress in a biker bar and had to flash my boobs to make tips. Ken was working for the man cleaning porta potties. Do you know what its like coming home to a man who smells like shit every night???? Then one day a dear friend showed us “the business” plan. We borrowed $20 for gas to make it to the Amway conference. And now we are rich rich rich and we pay for everything in cash. I love Ken so much for giving me the lifestyle of the rich and greedy. He’s my warrior…… Then some lowly piece of shit Amway ambot brings a chair onstage and Barbie sits there and stares down warrior Ken while he brags about their mansion, their fleet of cars, their private jet, the vacations they take and then shows a slide show of all their material possessions that Amway the cult of greed has provided for them. Or maybe its just stuff they rented for the day for the staged photo shoot. They finish by mocking the adoring ambots that if they can do it then anyone can. Meanwhile the only thing on Ken and Barbie’s minds is how much of the ticket sales proceeds are they going home with for showing up today to bullshit the Amway cult followers.
I got two words for all you fucking Amway assholes stealing money and lying to the suckers who forked over a few hundred bucks (or maybe more than that) to attend WWDB Amway Family Reunion and pretend to teach them “effective business methods” and how they can make a difference in other people’s lives. FUCK YOU!!!! The only difference you bastards are making is making your cult followers poorer and even further in debt. We don’t call WWDB World Wide Destructive BASTARDS for nothing!
Time for some keywords to draw in Amway IBO’s who are desperately searching the Internet for information because the assholes in their Amway upline don’t tell them piss all. Putting the wrong years in is intentional because Amway Ambots are so fucked up they don’t know what year it is or just because they’re a card carrying Amway asshole that gives them the power to turn back time.
Amway Family Reunion 2017
WWDB Family Reunion 2017
Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2017
World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2017
Puryear Amway Family Reunion 2017
Puryear WWDB Family Reunion 2017
Puryear Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2017
Puryear World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2017
Duncan Amway Family Reunion 2017
Duncan WWDB Family Reunion 2017
Duncan Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2017
Duncan World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2017
Amway Family Reunion 2016
WWDB Family Reunion 2016
Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2016
World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2016
Amway Family Reunion 2018
WWDB Family Reunion 2018
Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2018
World Wide Dream Builders Family Reunion 2018
Amway sucks!
WWDB World Wide Dream Builders sucks!
Amway Family Reunion sucks!
All Amway functions suck!
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Anna, haven't been to your blog in ages. You know the size of the family reunion? Back 20 years ago the fed was 15,000. Just did a search this weekend and Whalen's group grown...and he's edc now. I'm actually surprised. I use to think his group will shrink to nothing. I live in Canada and its amusing to see these Amway groups shrink
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous. Nice to see you coming back again! We have no idea of the size of family reunion. Those Amway bastards won't share that information with us infidels! Its our suspicion that its dropping in numbers because Amway is renting smaller venues than arenas and convention centers like they used to and have gone instead to meeting rooms in hotels and high school auditoriums. Yes we're happy to see that Amway's sales have been dropping by about 10% for the past few years. Hopefully thats partly due to the efforts of those of us who share our stories online about the financial and emotional distress that Amway causes.
DeleteShove the banana up your arse you dream stealing bitch fuck off and leave entrepreneur especially amway people to make lots of money
DeleteYou fake person
mark - I think you need to go back to the fucking assholes in your Amway upline and get more instructions on how not to say negative. LOL! You're a fucking Amway loser. The only Amway entrepreneurs have the last name of DeVos or VanAndel. Not cutts. Or would that be cunts!
DeleteThe only people making money in Amway have the last name of VanAndel or DeVos. Not fucking cunts like you.
Mark's reply is so typical. Devoid of anything to back it up, just parroting the brainwashing given. He's a "business owner" and will be making a lot of money soon and maybe we can drive his limo for him. lol The thing about dreams is they have to have SOME basis in reality, and Amway dreams do not. Only those at the top of the Amway pyramid make any money. The lowly IBO's can't find many people to buy their horribly overpriced products, so they buy them for themselves to fill closets and garages to try to look good to their upline while trying to find other suckers to buy into the scheme under them, but most people know it's scam where less than 1% of them even so much as break even.
DeleteSorry Mark. I have a dream to be able to flap my arms and fly, but I have about as much chance of doing that as you becoming rich in Amway.
But don't believe me. I couldn't care less if you drain your bank account chasing the scam. Doesn't effect me.
Anonymous - I agree. And if you're a real business owner you don't hit the Internet and say nasty things. Unless that's your trademark and its expected of you. Amway losers who pretend they're running fake businesses can do whatever they want. Even if they're nice to people that won't help them sell shitty overpriced products.
DeleteYeah really we don't give a shit if these losers get scammed and cunts like this deserve it. We're here to support people who have someone inside the Amway cult and warn those who've gone to an Amway meeting to stay away unless they want to go down a path of financial and emotional distress.
WWDB (World-Wide Douche Bags) has to hold its functions in high school auditoriums?
ReplyDeleteMan, that's a come-down. No wonder WWDB won't give out any public information about the locations of their functions.
Anonymous - I attended a couple of Amway functions held in high school auditoriums. I think they're cheaper to rent. And yup may be the swing that those World Wide Destructive Bastards don't want the infidels to know where their secret cult meetings are being held.
DeleteWow..... you're such a hater... i want to join this group now just to prove haters need to die. LOL
ReplyDeleteTo Unknown at 6:19 PM --
DeleteYou call us "haters" but then you express a wish that other people should die. That's really logical. Where did you go to school? In a garbage dump?
Go ahead and join WWDB. And then come back here and tell us how much money they stole from you.
Have a nice day, asshole.
Oh go fuck yourself Unknown you lying scamming Amway loser. The only people who are searching for information on Amway functions are already losers who've signed up to Amway. The only people leaving negative comments on this blog are Amway Ambots. The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck.
DeleteAnonymous - these fucking Amway bastards show up here and prove to us that being good Christians that Amway preaches is a bunch of bullshit. Amway Ambots are the nastiest motherfuckers around!
DeleteAnd then trying to bullshit us that he hasn't yet signed up with Amway, says just because you said fuck or you're a hater or you're a negative unchristian dreamstealer I'm going to spite you and sign up to Amway. Like I give a fuck. How does it affect my life if some unknown loser wants to throw their money at a pyramid scheme. When it affects my life then I write a blog!
The original poster's saying he will join Amway just to get back at us is hilarious. That's like someone saying "just to teach you a lesson I'm going to stick this fork straight into my balls!" lol I say "yes, please teach me a lesson. And teach me even more of a lesson by then sticking your head into a pool of piranhas. Oh boy, that will really teach me a lesson." lol!
DeleteWhy should any of us care that he joins Amway (though as you said I'm sure he's already a member). Him losing his money to a scam doesn't affect a single one of us except for his own depleted bank account. (shakes head)
LOL Anonymous. That's the funniest thing I've seen all day! I might use it against Ambots who shows up here - stick a fork in your balls! LOL! Yeah we always know when Ambots are lying saying they're looking into this business or going to sign up when they already have. How do you know when someone in Amway is lying? Their mouth is moving. Or in the case of the Internet they're typing something. People who say they were thinking of signing up leave comments thanking us for sharing our stories and they know to stay away. Or if they say they're not in Amway its usually followed by the story of their loved one who is.
DeleteIf that bastard comes back again we'll tell him where to stick his fork. LOL!
It's amazing how many people show up at this blog and say "I'm not involved in Amway, but I think it is unfair to attack this business and the good people working in it... blah, blah, blah."
DeleteWho the hell do they think they're kidding?
If you're not involved in Amway, what the bloody fuck are you doing at this website, which is very specifically ABOUT the Amway business and its lies? Why would you come here at all?
These people are Amway losers who are ashamed to admit publicly that they are involved in the stupid scam.
Anonymous - that's right. If you're not in Amway or have a loved one who is, or maybe you used to be in the Amway cult, you're not randomly looking for information on Amway cult meetings. And leaving comments that you like Amway and think its a good idea and you're thinking of joining. Losers who leave those comments have already plunked their money down.
DeletePeople who show up here after a search and have nothing to do with Amway and realize they're in the wrong place just go away and don't leave comments.
Its really embarrassing admitting you're an Amway loser and you got scammed but when you show up and leave a comment to say I'm not in Amway but I love Amway, it's like what the fuck. We all know you're an Amway loser cause only one of those fucking Amway assholes would leave a comment like that.
The fake Christianity in Amway is all about social cohesion and groupthink, not about genuine religious faith. Amway assholes spout a lot of pseudo-Gospel buslhit, but they have no actual beliefs other than the idea that God will make them rich if they stay in Amway and obey their up-line.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - if Amway Ambots are all about "Christianity" then that's something I want no part of. Pure shit evil.
DeleteAnd that would be the Great Amway God that is going to make the Ambots rich if they stay in Amway and obey their upline! LOL!
Some of my friends are ambots who are too deep in the rabbit whole to be saved. :(
ReplyDeleteI see them posting pictures of mansions and Lamborghini on Instagram with them saying "soon..." like it's ever going to happen.
Hi Anonymous. That's too bad about your friends. Unless they've been in the Amway cult over 2 years they still might quit. 95% of IBO's quit inside 2 years when they realized they got scammed and there's no chance of making money. According to Amway's brochures only a tiny fraction of 1% of all participants make money at this pyramid scheme.
DeleteAnd yeah the posting pictures on the fridge of mansions and sports cars and other expensive shit that followers of Amway the Cult of Greed want has been around forever. Some of these Amway losers also plaster those pictures up on their walls when they run out of fridge space.
Yeah right soon. Heard that song before. When the Ambot tries to quit some fucking asshole in their upline says you can't quit now, not when success is right around the corner. Or you're about to go really big really soon, I can feel it.
The only thing that's going to happen soon is financial and emotional distress. That's all that Ambots have to look forward to.
The image of one of those Amway losers driving a Lamborghini is utterly laughable.
ReplyDeleteI've seen the sort of vehicles Amway assholes drive. It's usually a twenty-year-old jalopy held together with baling wire. In fact, Anna frequently refers to these beat-up, grungy cars as "Amway Shit-mobiles."
Anonymous - it is laughable. If the Ambot didn't have an jalopy held together with wire and duct tape, they would after spending more time inside the Amway cult. Amway Shitmobile City!
DeleteThis Mark Cutts is a Brit. (Notice how he spells "arse.") He's involved in amway.uk, and his Facebook page shows that he flogs Nutrilite energy drinks and some of those lousy Artistry products.
ReplyDeleteThe problem for him is that the British government is on to Amway. There have been some major rulings against the scam in that country. I guess Cutts is coming here to this website to let off some of his frustration over those setbacks.
Anonymous - mark cunts is a fucking Amway loser. If our country got its act together and banned Amway the world would be a better place.
DeleteI had the misfortune to be in Billy Florence's downline for about 12 years up until he was kicked out. I hadn't been active the last 4-5 years up to that point and just quit then. I came across your blog because I watched a documentary on Netflix about James Arthur Ray and decided to google some old Amway names and see what came up. Most of the hits were old stuff but here you are with a current blog! And it's just like you say it is -- all snake oil and lies and deception and only the chosen few at the top getting rich from the system and not the products. I just retired and boy how I wish I had the dollars I threw away on products and those stupid functions. I never really believed but went along to support my husband (who is now my ex-husband). We made it to Platinum but had a shitshow of an upline Emerald couple who wouldn't have known the truth if had bit them. "If the dream is big enough, the facts don't count." I never understood that because facts always count, and the fact is Amway is nothing but a big hole you toss your money into along with most of your friends and family. I spent 6 months after we got out calling and apologizing to the people I felt had gotten hurt by being in the business -- the couple who was encouraged by the Emeralds to buy tools and function tickets they couldn't really afford and who lost their home as a result; the couple who gave up their dream of going into the ministry to build Amway instead as a ministry and ended up with neither; the man I later learned was a closeted gay who sat through function after function where "queers" were demonized by the speakers (and I have to wonder now how many of those homophobe Amway Diamonds are gay themselves); the Mormon couple who was told they were in the wrong religion at the same time our upline was telling us we needed to hold fundraisers for Mr. Mormon himself, Mitt Romney, who was running for Ted Kennedy's Senate seat (this one particularly dripped of hypocrisy). Keep telling the truth about this scam. If one person reads this and makes the decision to either not get in to begin with or to quit you'll have achieved something great. There is life after Amway and a good life without Amway, and my life is a whole helluva lot better without the lying, scheming people I had to deal with in those 12 years.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous. Thank you for stopping by to share your story. I hope every time someone like you tells about their Amway experience and the financial and emotional distress and destroyed families, maybe that will be a wake up call for the people reading their true stories of being destroyed by Amway.
DeleteI also want to say that nowhere else but in Amway can you get fired from your "own business". This also happened to our sack of shit Platinum. Amway Ambots can't grasp the fact that real business owners answer to no one but themselves. They decide on a product or service, figure out their prices, set their own hours, make real business decisions, etc. And no one fires you except yourself! In Amway its all about playing pretend business owner when all you are is a low paid commissioned sales rep for a pyramid scheme.
I'm glad you found your way here. Yeah there's a few of us old timers that have been blogging about the Amway hell hole for years. A lot of people start a blog but then grow tired or run out of things to say and move on. We have a few bananas behind the scenes and some have changed over the years but we keep on. Couldn't do it without all the support. The message is important to get out there: stay the hell away from the Amway cult!
I've seen stories about retired people who threw their life savings at the Amway scam thinking bazillions of dollars would come rolling in every month for the rest of their lives and they'd be set in retirement and have a huge inheritance to leave their kids and all that happened was financial devastation. Yeah we'd all like to have that money back we threw at the Amway pyramid scheme. I was reading an article the other day about a stock and if someone had bought $10,000 in shares around 10 years ago, the stock has increased, I can't remember how much but I remember the dividends on that original 10k investment would now be paying over $1000/month. And $10,000 would have been around what a CORE Ambot would have spent in a year on Amway. And you'll never see that money again. Amway won't do the right thing and refund the people they scammed. That money can go to so many better things and provide a real future for people, not just some flaky dreams an Amway cult leader tells you to do.
And your story is the same as so many of us. Its the man who gets in Amway and the wife who tries to be supportive but there's only so much abuse and financial and emotional distress we can put up with. And when it goes on too long it destroys the marriage. Nothing brings those Amway bastards more happiness than destroying other peoples lives. So sorry to hear that and you know you're not alone. Too many Amway widows and divorcees out there.
And thanks for reminding us about that Amway is a homophobic cult. I listened to too many Amway cult leaders rant about gays and places where gay marriage is allowed and as you said demonized. Somewhere around here I have a blog about does Amway let in gay men. And sure Amway is an equal opportunity scammer. They'll take the money but no way will a LBGQT reach any level of significance in the Amway cult. Amway's owners contribute heavily to a homophobic group that is all about promoting what their idea of a family is.
There is life after Amway and we all breathe a huge sigh of relief that we're no longer throwing our money to make some asshole high up on the pyramid richer and we're no longer putting up with those evil fucking assholes in the Amway upline.
Good luck to you and happy retirement!
It's funny that, with all this negative publicity and testimony coming out about the Amway racket, there isn't a legal peep from the Amway Corporation against all of the anti-Amway blogs. Not a single lawyer, nor subpoena, nor cease-and-desist order. Not a peep.
ReplyDeleteYou know why? Because they know damn well that they can't say a single valid thing in their defense.
Either that, or nobody in Ada, Michigan has a set of balls.
Amway, meet the 1st Amendment.
Delete1st Amendment, meet Amway.
Amway HATES the 1st Amendment.
It's not against the law to tell the truth.
It's not against the law to have an opinion.
No matter how much Amway Ambots wish that was the law! LOL!
I can be bought though. $10 million buys the blog out. Any takers?
Anna, please! Don't say that! The world needs you and this blog!
ReplyDeleteI would be devastated if this blog stopped.
Ha ha! That's nice of you to say! I'm sure we'll be around for a long time. The price keeps going up by a million every year. Scamway could have got it for the bargain basement price of half that 5 years ago! LOL! Cheap ass arrogant bastards!
DeleteThank you so much for this post, and your others! My husband and I just dealt with a "Ken and Barbie" couple, and wouldn't have given them time but they lied to us and said they were not Amway..for 3 meetings! We thought we were just making friends with a "like minded" couple so we agreed to get together.
ReplyDeleteThey said they had "mentors" they wanted to introduce us to, in order to pay it forward for what had been done for them. Their "mentors" were very careful who they worked with and wouldn't talk with us until they were sure we were all on the same page....
On the second meeting they threw a "Family Reunion" in Portland at us, saying that they might not be able to get us in but would fight to get us a spot! The tickets to this were $175.00 (as mentioned), and there was also going to be a bus fare of $120, and then a shared hotel room at an undisclosed fee. It went from just them and their mentors, to all of a sudden them having "coaches", and "speakers" at the "group evaluation" (which was supposed to be next), as well as a convention!
We came online and checked into it and sure enough...they were liars! The fact that they even said "that's not what this is" when we mentioned we thought it might be Amway is crazy. I guess they figured they are "World Wide Dream Builders" so it's completely different, haha.
We now see that they were only "like minded" because they are careful observers, and were telling us things they thought were in line with our values. They let us "borrow" the Go-Giver book, and I'm guessing you get a different book depending on what type of person they think you are.
Hi Anonymous - thanks so much for stopping by to share your story!
DeleteEverything you've said is dead on, the lines that Amway Ambots use when prospecting.
One of our readers said he signed up and it was around 3 months later that the "A" word was mentioned at a meeting, so he didn't even know he'd signed up for Amway. Ambots are sneaky lying scamming bastards.
And LOL on the being very careful who they work with. LOL! That Amway line has been around for decades. They'll give you some bullshit about qualifying you. If you're breathing - you qualify! LOL! That's how desparate they are. Most Ambots will never sign up anyone in their downline but they want to make it sound exclusive so they do this bullshit qualifying routine.
Those Ambots "might" be able to get you in. LOL! They've already bought your ticket. These things don't sell out. Just the opposite. They're downsizing the places they rent for their brainwashing conferences because attendance declines every year.
By any chance you don't know where those Amway losers are holding the cult meeting in Portland? This is top secret stuff. Those WWDB bastards changed their guest log on so we can't see the top secret details of their cult meeting. All cults are very secretive. Amway is no different.
Those Ambots think they've got a live one in you. They'll be unrelentlessly harrassing you. Getting rid of Ambots is about as successful as when you think you've killed an ant. They come back to life 5 minutes later. Amway Ambots are prudes. If the Ambots keep bugging you, tell them that you are your husband are raising money to produce and star in porno flicks and ask them for financing. That's the last you'll hear from them.
And way to go for dodging the bullet. Amway will bring you nothing but financial and emotional distress and probably a divorce. Stay away from those Amway losers.
Any time anyone tells you that they want to introduce you to "their mentors," watch out. What normal human being does that?
ReplyDeleteWhen you meet and interact with new persons honestly and in good faith, you talk and laugh and hang out. Later on, you might go to their place for a meal, or vice-versa. But when a new acquaintance says "Hey, I want you to meet a very important person who has some information for you," a red flag should go up. It's simply not normal!
Anonymous - you got that right. When you meet new people they don't want to immediately introduce you to their boss, their mentor, or even other friends. They want to get to know you first and decide if they'll accept you into their world and introduce you to others you know.
DeleteMLM scammers have a whole different agenda.
I can be Anonymous2...I hear what all of you are saying. I am not involved in Amway, my son is. He has a day job, and is making more in Amway then his job he went to college for. He is very successful, and is not the type of person you all describe. So I don't think you can generalize all Amway people the same. I have no desire to get involved, but he is doing very well without lying to anyone. The only reason I am not putting my name is to protect him.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous. Sure you can be Anonymous2. Though I prefer to think of you as just another dumb fuck Amway Ambot.
DeleteHere's the thing. You think you're the first person to show up here and say "I am not involved in Amway". Sure sign that they're an Ambot. LOL.
Parents who have children in Amway do show up here complaining about the hell they're going through thanks to their dumb fuck Ambot kid.
Your son is lying too. That is if you even do have a son. How do you know when someone in Amway is lying? Their mouth is moving.
If your son is making more money in Amway than his regular job, then he must be working a minimum wage job for only one hour a month. Ambots only make about $10 a month after investing hundreds of dollars into Scamway.
If an Ambot was actually making the same amount of money in Amway as their real J.O.B. the fucking assholes in the Amway upline would "counsel" with him to quit his job. That's what Amway is all about. Getting their cult followers to hate their job and hate their boss and to make money in Amway so they can quit and have FREEDOM! There is no way in hell that an Ambot would stay in a job if he's making money in Amway. No way! That is totally against the Amway philosophy.
The other thing that real business owners know. And not fake business owners like Amway Ambots, is that if you're running a side business as well as working a job, once your side business is making income that meets or beats your job's income you quit your job and concentrate only on your business. That makes economic sense.
And why not say your name or your son's name? Amway is a business where the participants want everyone to know who they are. Ambots are all about achieving rock star status. They want the fame. They want everyone to know them. They want to be worshipped and adored. Something's too fishy going on here.
Your son is a lying scamming Amway loser. That is if there's any "son" here at all.
Thank you so much for your reply to my comment...or story rather! Oh boy did we dodge a bullet! I read my husband the thing about the guy being in it for 3 months without knowing it was Amway! That is soooo awful and immoral! The "boyfriend" texted us the day after the "group evaluation" and said he "noticed we weren't there" and asked if we were "okay". We got one more text from the boyfriend today...not from the woman though. This text started off saying "Since you didn't go to the meeting and we haven't heard from you..." and my husband deleted it without reading the rest. I am not even sure he is actually her boyfriend...I found them both on Facebook and they aren't friends with each other nor do they have any pictures together and they have supposedly been together for 8 months. They probably aren't allowed to associate with other WWDB on social media!
ReplyDeleteI didn't get a chance to find out where the convention is, sorry. I was really curious myself so I went online and did some digging and WOW is that on lock down! I can't imagine them doing it at the Moda Center which someone had said it had been in the past..I'm guessing the Veterans Memorial Coliseum next door which only holds up to 10,000...but that is just an educated guess. A lot of the other spaces in Portland they could have gone seem too "hippy dippy" for the "flashy" style they are going for. Which is funny because my husband and I are that way and they didn't get that...we wouldn't have been interested in ANY product they have to offer to people. Anyways... I see that the Quality Inn Downtown Convention Center near the coliseum has only two rooms available for that weekend...but maybe it's filled up with some other convention guests....the Crowne Plaza has only one room...the other hotels either would be too expensive like Eastlund wants $470 or something for a 2 guest booking and that was the lowest cost. The other Hotels are either even more or wouldn't match the idea that they are trying to implant into these peoples heads: like the Shilo Inn....that wouldn't impress the Dream Builders much would it? If you find out where it is you should send them some pizzas ;) I always wanted to do that when I was a kid after seeing it in so many movies and tv shows...it really seemed like great revenge...
Hi Anonymous. Thanks for coming back and sharing more of your experiences!
DeleteLOL that those Ambots all got together to do a group evaluation on you and your husband! LOL! That is too funny. It's like you're getting into this exclusive club or something. As long as you're willing to hand over thousands of dollars to buy shitty overpriced Amway products and invest in the Amway tool scam - you're in!
It's possible that something fishy is going on with the boyfriend/girlfriend. The Amway cult leaders might use this "couple" to help draw in other couples. Just to give you a sense of comfort that other couples are in your group working "the business" together.
And don't think you got off lucky with just one text. They'll keep after you for a long time. Someone on this blog I have a post, which is really a cut and paste of a conversation one of our readers who was having fun with an Ambot on Facebook. It went on for months.
Yeah that's pretty funny way to describe the Amway cult as on lock down. All cults are very secretive and that's why we get a lot of Ambots showing up here trying to find out more about the Amway brainwashing conferences and then they're outraged by our truthful accounts of what really goes on. Like how dare us let the Amway cult secrets get out there. Last year the World Wide Destructive Bastards changed their guest log in and password. Before they did that we could log on and find out who, where, how much, etc. and then post it here! LOL!
That would be so funny on the pizzas. Call in an order under Duncan's name and say he'll pay for it in cash when the order arrives because Amway Ambots pay for everything in cash - or at least that's what they preach at the cult meetings.
So a friend of mine told me she had a mentor and wanted me to meet her. During the meeting they gave me a book to read about network marketing. Then, I was invited to a meeting where I heard about World Wide Dream Builders and Amway. I was also invited to a "family reunion" event. It was $175. I paid with my credit card and figured it was worth it in order to know more about what's really going on with this business. Once I got my credit card statement I saw Baker Motivation Inc collected the payment for the family reunion (which was hosted by the super upline, Baker family). That's when I saw the magic of this business model. You can learn a lot by carefully observing what the people at the top are doing. Basically, speak to people's emotions, give them hope and inspiration, build your credibility by getting a few people to take your advice (or at least, enjoy your advice) and then have your own motivational conference to tell people how you did it. Charge whatever you want for your own conference or take donations. That's what they're doing out here. I definitely feel like the wool has been pulled over my eyes by this whole process, but I'm grateful that I was able to gain so much insight on the real money-making opportunity. Motivational speakers make bank! Even if you're not the one who's doing the motivational speaking, you can be the one who secures the venue and takes the payments! It's all about the numbers. If you have a few followers, you can gain enough credibility to host your own events. This is why WorldWide Dream Builders, in particular, teaches that the products are not important. The mentorship and motivational meetings are the real money makers. They use Amway as a vehicle to build a following and they use Amway's compensation plan to get paid along the way. If you're persuasive enough to build a following quickly you won't have to operate at a loss for long. You'll be on your way to hosting your own Tedx type motivational speaking events.
ReplyDeleteHI Anonymous. Yup the old scam Ambots use when prospecting a sucker is to get them in front of their mentor. "Yeah my mentor is a lying scamming son of a bitch. You got to meet my mentor and learn how to do what this motherfucker does."
DeleteOnly brainwashed Amway ambots think the Amway business model is magic. The rest of the world don't consider 99%+ failure rate is magical.
But year you called it. The only way to make money in Amway is by starting your own cult sect and charging ticket sales. As you pointed out the teaching is not about selling products but bringing in new recruits. That's the blueprint for a pyramid scheme.
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ReplyDeleteThis is why it’s really important to publish comments from fucking Amway assholes. We can warn people to stay away from the Amway scam because of shitty overpriced products and because the people in Amway are the nastiest most negative evil motherfuckers you’ll ever meet. And along comes this fucking Amway loser from Valencia to prove it.
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