There’s a podcast featuring Robert Fitzgerald of Pyramid
Scheme Alert and one of the questions the interviewer asks is how do you get
someone out of an MLM cult. http://theartofcharm.com/podcast-episodes/robert-fitzpatrick-mlm-doesnt-work-episode-247/
Fitzgerald’s answer goes something along the lines of that’s the million dollar
question and if he had the answer he’d be a rich man.
I get dozens of searchers weekly looking for information on how they can get
their husband/parent/child/friend out of Amway. What’s really sad is the number
of people searching for that on Thanksgiving and Christmas when the Ambot
probably didn’t show up for the family gathering or did show up with the
arrogant asshole Amway Ambot attitude - and no one needs that shit at a holiday
gathering.
People looking for a quick answer on how to get someone out of Amway or any
other cult aren’t going to find it. Depending on how badly brainwashed the
Amway cult follower is or if he’s showing signs of leaving the cult you might
be able to reason with him and to the extreme hiring a specialist who kidnaps
the cult follower and tries to deprogram their brainwashed Amway Ambot mind.
There is no one size fits all answer for how to get someone out of Amway. This
is an evil cult. The Amway commissioned salespeople are built up to think that
they are big important business owners instead of cult followers and are given
this dumb fuck title called IBO = Independent Business Owner. The IBO attends
countless Amway meetings where they are supposedly given business advice but
instead are actually brainwashing sessions.
And yes I know because I was dragged into many Amway cult meetings disguised as
“business meetings”. And no you can’t brainwash someone who can’t stand you and
sees you for the lying scamming evil sack of shit scumbag that you are. No
actual business advice is ever given at Amway “business meetings”. No
information on getting yourself registered as a business, getting tax numbers,
getting a business bank account, getting a business license, getting business
insurance, writing a business plan, creating a profit and loss statement, etc,
etc. Some “business advice” given at Amway meetings is to buy from your own
store and buy tickets to the next Amway function. Don’t have anything to do
with people who won’t support your Amway business. I have a whole bunch more
dumb ass “business advice” given at Amway meetings such as don’t dress like a
slut but they can be found on other posts on this blog.
Oh wait lets not forget this piece of advice that I have only heard in Amway
not in any other business. You must ask permission from the assholes in the
Amway upline before you do anything or buy anything. Cult cult cult cult
cult!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People fall into cults for various reasons and commercial cults of greed like
Amway have to do with getting rich. And getting rich with all their new ambot
friends and in 2 years they’ll all be sitting on a beach drinking mai tais
while bazillions of dollars in residual income from Amway come rolling in every
month and they can sit back and retire and do nothing forever except walk the
beaches of the world with the other ambots.
Cults use something attractive and tempting to con a follower into joining. A
cult like Amway promises unlimited riches. Other cults might promise a special
place in heaven. All cults promise their followers something appealing or at
least appealing to the prospect who signs up. If the Amway cult leaders were
honest at Amway cult meetings they’d say over 99% of you will never make money,
you’ll lose lots of money, your savings account will be wiped out, if you have
a house we’ll send you into foreclosure, if you have credit cards we’ll run up
your debt to the point you might end up in bankruptcy court, and if you’re
married we’re going to destroy your relationship so you’ll get divorced. But
Amway cult leaders aren’t honest. They’re full of lies and bullshit about how
everyone’s going to be rich and Diamonds sell tickets to brainwashed Ambots and
show slide shows of their riches or stuff they’ve rented for a photo shoot and
sneer at the followers if we can do it so can you. If the Amway cult leaders
were honest - LOL like that would ever happen! - they’d never sign anyone up.
That’s why you’ve got to be a good liar if you expect to make any money in
Scamway.
It’s no different than Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. Jones enticed his
cult followers to move to Guyana where he conveniently named a compound after
himself, Jonestown. A tropical paradise where the followers would be free from
the evils of the outside world. A place where colored cult followers could live
in peace and not be subject to racism. Utopia. There was about 1000 cult
followers living there at the end. If Jones had been truthful he would have
said we’re going to a hot, humid insect infected country where you’ll be using
axes to constantly cut back the jungle and slaving away at hard labor all your
waking hours and then we’ll all drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid and die. Jones
would have had much less success recruiting cult followers if he’d be honest up
front that they were joining a suicide cult and the end was coming soon.
Cult leaders are LIARS!
That’s the only way they can scam people to join their cults. Promising
something they know that individual needs.
Around here we get a lot of search engine hits on how to get someone out of the
Amway cult. That tells us there are a lot of desperate wives surfing the Internet
who are fed up with the Amway bullshit. Although wives have the most
searches other searches are how to get a family member or friend out of Amway.
I can’t offer substantial advice other than wait it out and hope your husband
is one of the majority who leaves Amway within the year when he finally figures
out he’s not making any money. Everyone has different tolerance levels and bank
account balances. What pisses off one woman might have little effect on
another. Mostly what really pisses off women is the attitude adjustment their
husband goes through due to involvement in the Amway cult. Sweet, sensitive
husbands are turned into angry, ugly, sneering creatures who constantly
criticize everyone who is not in Amway or supporting their Amway business.
But how do you get someone out of Amway? Unfortunately all you can usually do
is let the brainwashed ambot dig their own grave. Once they max out their
credit cards and drain their bank account they can’t keep tithing the Great
Amway God and then they’ll face the anger and wrath from the fucking assholes
in the Amway upline when there’s no more money to be sent up the pyramid. They
probably are facing foreclosure, bankruptcy, maybe divorce. When they stop
listening to brainwashing CD’s and attending Amway cult meetings their mind
starts to clear. And they quit. Usually happens inside a year maybe two years.
Any longer than that inside the Amway cult the person is usually a lifer.
I’ve had a few desperate visitors leave comments asking how to get their loved
one out of the Amway cult and there really is no answer but the links in the
right side of this page under more information about Amway might help such as
reading the free ebook Merchants of Deception, watching the Dateline videos,
checking out the Pyramid Scheme website for resources, or looking for groups
that can deprogram cult followers such as Steve Hassan who has helped deprogram
former Amway cult members.
Wives who are married to ambots and going through the shit the asshole in his
Amway upline are putting your through might have to see a lawyer for proper
legal advice and get their ducks in a row for when things turn worse. Marriages
are hard enough when going through money problems and even worse when the evil
Amway cult is the main contributor to money problems.
Hang in there as long as you can and I hope things get better for you.
This is the real tragedy of Amway -- once someone is in it for a certain length of time, they tend to be stuck in it forever. Two things bring this about: 1) the brainwashing works and corrupts their ability to think clearly, and 2) they are afraid to leave after losing so much money which they desperately hope to recoup. These two things induce a kind of paralysis in the lifer IBO. He is compelled to stay in, because the propaganda has brainwashed him, and he needs to make good on all the cash he has invested over the years.
ReplyDeleteGetting someone out of Amway is very difficult. It really takes a major financial blow to convince an IBO that he is a sucker who has been conned by the scumbags in his up-line. The only thing a friend or spouse can hope is that the financial blow comes quickly and sharply, within the first year of an IBO's membership. This why the very worst thing anyone can do is to "support" the IBO with pity purchases or loans of money. Let him fall on his face. That's the most merciful thing you can do.
Anonymous - you're right. Brainwashing works and Ambots are afraid to leave the Amway cult after losing so much money which they're desperate to recover.
DeleteIt's why people keep plugging slot machines. They've invested so much money and they don't want to walk away and then someone else wins really big money on the machine. Or like buying a stock that drops really low on the stock market and the investor doesn't want to sell until the stock climbs enough to where they bought in at. Getting someone out of Amway is very difficult. Their greed won't allow Ambots to admit they got scammed.