I’ve heard from a reader who
got the old Amway pitch when she thought she was going out on a date. She’s
smart enough not to throw any money at a scheme drawn up on a napkin. Her date
is the typical arrogant Amway asshole. Sneering at her because she’s going to
school instead of signing up for the much cheaper Amway University and
automatically getting her teaching degree. And in typical Amway asshole fashion
sneers at people who work J.O.B.s and insults teacher’s pay. Like an Amway
Ambot’s pay of around $10/month is anything to brag about. And none of us
really think this lying Amway bastard is really making 100k! LOL! There’s no
end to creepy shit that Amway Ambots pull off. Trolling online dating sites for
prospects to suck into the Amway cult just doesn’t seem shocking once you know
all the bullshit these scammers pull off.
Hi Anna- first off, let me say I love your blog. Second, I was propositioned by
an “ambot” for the first time on Saturday. What made it so strange was that the
pitch occurred DURING A FIRST DATE.
I feel compelled by pride to state up front that I am a pretty girl. I watch
what eat, I dress well, and I have great hair. It’s important that I point that
out, otherwise the whole story has a very sad “lonely lady” feel to it. I’m in
my late 20s and like most singles I have an online dating profile. About 2
weeks ago I got a message from a guy on the site; he was cute and my age and
sent a very flattering and detailed message to me. I responded back, and for
about a week and a half we messaged a bit. Looking back there were some red
flags; his profile said he was self employed and listed his income as $100k.
That in itself is unusual; people rarely if ever list their personal income for
obvious reasons. Also, when I told him I was a grad student he was like “well,
that’s good for you...I’m more of an independent ambitious type of guy so I
could never work for someone else”. Again- big red flag (because I’m in grad
school for education, and he’s the first person I’ve ever met to kinda scoff at
teaching). But....he was cute. So when he asked me out for coffee I didn’t
think twice about going.
I get to the coffee shop on Sat afternoon, and the first thing I notice is he’s
dressed up. Like, he’s wearing a tie. It’s Sat afternoon in a coffee shop in
Buffalo NY- no one wears a tie. So we started talking; at first light getting
to know you chit chat but quickly it gets very focused on me. On my financial
situation- how am I paying for grad school? Do I find the need to take out
loans? Do I have to work a job on the side? And then he started saying things
about teaching; about how hard it is to get a teaching job, about how little
they get paid, etc. I actually started feeling a little shitty; teachers DONT
get paid that much. Then he laid down his line; it was something to the effect
of he didn’t normally do this but he thought I was super cute and he liked me a
lot, so he’d be willing to cut me in on this great business opportunity. Then
he went into a pitch; he actually drew a profit to loss graph on a napkin.
Ummmm....I may not be an MBA but I know enough about investing to never invest
money for a scheme someone draws on a napkin.
He went on for about 15 min; I don’t think I ever said a word. I figured out
what was going on pretty quick- but I just could not believe this guys
audacity. And also, his cluelessness. Because it’s pretty audacious to say to
yourself “Girls think I’m kinda sexy, so I’m going to hunt some down on OKCupid
and scam them into a MLM”. But it’s also SO clueless. Here’s this guy who’s
really good looking, he was charming and engaging....if he really wanted to
dedicate himself to building a serious business, or working as a salesman in a
well paying sales position (say at an auto dealership), he could do it. He’s
been blessed with the gifts of charm, attractiveness, and boldness and in other
businesses he’d thrive. Instead, he’s running a scam on 28 year old ladies- and
the scam doesn’t even work. I didn’t sign up, he’s still broke, and he didn’t
even get laid (which probably wouldn’t have happened on Sat anyways, but at
least he had a shot before he started the Amway shit)
The thing that is amazing to me about this account is that the man is utterly and completely CLUELESS about women. And for a guy who seems to be attractive, sexy, and an easy talker, that seems bizarre. Most men with those qualities learn very soon about women that while they may be attracted to your good looks and charm, they also are deeply insulted when they learn that your main concern is elsewhere, and that they are just being used by you. This especially true on the first date.
ReplyDeleteThis Amway jerk made a serious and stupid blunder. Women take love and romance very seriously. If they agree to have a date with you, they expect to be the center of your attention and your good manners. So what does this asshole do? He snidely insults her career choice, he asks her intrusive questions about her finances, and then he actually draws those infamous circles and lines on a napkin to draw her into a Ponzi scheme. Circles and lines on a napkin?!? Doesn't this Amway freak know that this action has reached the status of a worldwide joke about his stupid company? Everyone knows about those circles and napkins, just like they know about The Gettysburg Address, and Kim Kardashian's ass.
When he says to her "I don't normally do this, but I think you;re super cute," he reveals himself to be not just stupid but deeply insensitive. You could translate his statement this way: "I know a lot of girls, and they're all pretty, but you're prettier than most, and for that reason I want to introduce you to a great way to make money."
You know what that also sounds like? It sounds like an offer to a street whore. It's like saying "I don't really care about your name or your personality or your foolish plans, but since you're so cute I can arrange for you to get fucked and earn a lot of money."
If men in Amway are this stupid, no wonder they never get laid.
Anonymous - this woman's story is also important to point out that nothing is more important to an Ambot than Amway. Nothing. Partner, kids, family, none of them make the top 10 list on an Amway Ambot's order of importance. Even though every Amway asshole out there will say he's doing Amway for his family - he's doing it for himself. Nothing is more important than worshipping the Amway cult leaders and fawning over Amway's overpriced shitty products.
DeleteForget this Amway loser turning a "date" into a pitch for his pyramid scheme. Men!!! If you're asking a woman out you need to make a good first impression. You don't have to choose the most expensive restaurant in town - but you should pick a decent place and buy her lunch or dinner. That way you don't come across as a cheap bastard. Though we already know everyone in Amway is a broke loser and can't afford to take women out on dates. Men!! When you ask a woman out this is your time to ask her questions and get to know her better and tell her a bit about yourself. This is how you discover if you'd like to go on a second date. If you draw circles on napkins to pitch your Ponzi scheme, spend all your time on your phone, talk about yourself endlessly and don't pick up the tab for a meal - you can pretty much not expect to see her again.
Yup we all know why Amway men aren't getting laid. Amway is a huge turn off to women.