Comment left by one of our readers who realizes that our experiences matches theirs:
Hey Anna Banana,
Thanks for starting this blog. I read every one of these comments and they’re
both entertaining and informative. I just got into this several weeks ago, went
to their Spring Leadership conference and was totally confused as to why they
didn’t go into ANY detail as to how to run this business. It was just a
motivational seminar.
I’ve been going to the weekly meetings regularly and the people are really nice, I’ll give you that. They’re good people and I like them a lot, but it’s so weird how they present couples at the end to only explain WHY they’re doing this business. Where are the numbers?
At the first meeting I ever went to, a skeptical woman asked one of the young couples, “So how much are you making right now?” and the girl just proceeded to talk about the success of Brad Duncan.
Umm, excuse me? I want to hear how much YOU’RE making, how long it took you to get to where you are, and not one person who’s been in this for umpteen decades.
I’m surprised to hear about Greg’s bankruptcy; I especially appreciated to hear that comment about how the diamonds are shrinking. I had NO idea because NOBODY mentions that.
I was really freaked out by the cultish way the people would run up to the speakers and fawn all over them like you described - pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Creating a dream income sounds amazing, but not at the cost of others’ time and money, because most people cannot build this business, nor sustain it.
Your comment about drinking XS and replacing a meal with a bar, and then teaching several others to do the same - so hilarious, because it’s true. That’s what they teach you to do and it’s not even healthy.
In one of his CD’s, Brad Duncan basically condemns a woman who said XS isn’t that great and says that she’s definitely not making any money off of it. He talks about how personal use is one of the keys to this business. Well, guess what, Brad? I think every product on Amway is totally overpriced and if the only way to succeed in this business is to have thousands of people under you who are barely making any money, is immoral, unjust, and not what a true Christian would advocate.
There are many ways of looking at this business and it’s especially confusing because so many seemingly great people represent it, but the way this business is represented is so scammy I can’t stand it. Why do I have to fool people into thinking WWDB isn’t Amway (because IT IS if you haven’t figured that out by now). I’ve invested about $400 into memberships, conferences, and that’s not even including the products I’ve bought so far. I’ve also wasted 4 weeks of my life.
“The wisdom of the prudent is to discern his way...” Proverbs 14:8
If you’re already involved in this business or are thinking of getting involved, please think of the many factors involved. There are many ways to make money, but not at the expense of others. Whatever name or acronym your business may be under does not matter. Amway is Amway. Or shall I say Scamway. There may be people who have succeeded, but trust me, it takes a long, long time and a lot of sacrifice that you’re not told about upfront. You may as well go pursue something you’re truly passionate about and if you do, the money will come.
The people who are gushing about Brad this, Duncan that, find five other people who have that lifestyle - ask them how long and what it took, and if they made that money solely through this business, because I bet you those primped up speakers are making a shit ton through speaking engagements and creating educational material, which by the way, is ridiculously expensive. A whole bunch of “educational” shit that only gets you pumped up and wondering how the hell they got there.
Anna responds about saying to cut your losses and leave and that the assholes in the Amway upline will freak out when they think they’re losing an income stream. Former Ambot responds:
HAHA OMG, were you on the phone line with us? She indirectly called me a loser and completely insulted my mom, saying her negativity and pessimism will cause her always to be a failure and that she will never succeed. When my dad dies, she’s going to have to go find a job and no one will take her. I was like... WHOA. All of that is probably true, but shut the fuck up, right?!
I’m totally sucked into this book because every detail is SO accurate. You’re so right. I feel like he was with me in every experience.
I got into this 3.5 weeks ago and I’m just so thankful I haven’t gotten anyone signed up except my sister. I feel bad to her, but thank GOD I haven’t gotten anyone else.
At first, I didn’t understand why so many people, including you, spent so much time and effort to keep up this bashing on Amway, but now that I’m looking at it from an objective point of view, I TOTALLY GET IT. WE are the moral ones who actually want to help people open their eyes to this cult. We get no money for this opposed to the bloodsuckers in Amway for “helping” people. They then go around saying we’re jealous and bitter for not having made it. HAH. It’s so laughable I can’t even contain the irony of this situation.
Anyways, I saw that some amway sites said Eric lied about the death threats and something else, but I didn’t see any legitimate documentation about that. Do you happen to know anything about that? I’m just assuming the ambots are creating any excuse to refute what he wrote...
By the way, I wanted to say, you’re fuckin hilarious and I love your writing style. I think we’d be very good friends in real life. Thanks for responding and for the advice. I’ll let you know how it goes...
Anna again: LOL – insulting the mom too! LOL! That’s just how the fucking assholes in the Amway upline operate. And it’s scary the tactics those Amway fucktards use in sheer desperation to keep an Ambot from leaving the Amway cult and losing that income stream.
Anna, you're quite right. Ambots are terrified of losing any IBO in their down-line. They have nightmares about it! They will fight savagely to make you stay in the business.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just the loss of a monthly income stream. It's also the horrible thought that maybe these IBOs who are leaving are smarter than me, and that's why they have quit. This is something that an Amway freak cannot face.
Everything in Amway is about creating a false self-image, and holding that fake mask up to the word all the time, no matter how much money you're losing or how hopeless your recruitment of down-line is. It's all about reshaping your entire life around a lie, and brainwashing yourself to believe it, even though you're getting nowhere.
Anonymous - that's exactly right when it comes to Amway and especially any Ambot who might have a downline. They struggled so hard to get one sign up and now they're quitting. So when it comes to Amway that means insulting them and in this case the mom too. Which is what I say all that time that Amway losers can't mind their own fucking business.
DeleteIt's like when you quit any job. If it's a good company that treat their employees well - they will try to find out why the person is leaving. Often it's for a better job - more money, better benefits, better hours, whatever. And that puts the boss into a position of a counter offer to try to retain the employee. But generally speaking it would have to be a pretty fucking shitty boss who would insult and bad mouth the employee when they give their notice. So whether it's Amway or a bad boss job - all that does is put the others on notice that they're in for a shit kicking when they quit. And then they all start quitting anyway LOL!