Friday, October 8, 2010

Ambot wanted to Succeed

My husband wanted to succeed at this Amway business, even though the odds - with a 99% failure rate - were stacked against him that he wouldn't. More than becoming financially secure, success in Amway would mean basking in the bliss from the cult leaders that he adored so much.

All over the Internet are blogs and forums from former Amway IBO’s who say much of the same thing. They worked hard and put a lot of time and effort into building an Amway business and it didn’t pan out. Also on the Internet you will see plenty of posts from current IBO’s who parrot their upline and said the reason these people didn’t sponsor anyone is because they didn’t work hard enough or didn’t put in the effort.

Sure there are IBO’s out there who signed up due to pressure from friends or family. They paid their $150, got their start up kit, and that was the extent of their Amway involvement. Those people probably had no intention of putting in any work, just wanted to help out the person who hounded them into signing up.

I’d say my Ambot worked hard and put in plenty of effort to build an Amway business. He spent hours glued to the computer taking the Amway university program. He spent hours studying the Amway literature and product magazines. He memorized everything and could answer questions about the plan or products and knew as much or more than his upline. He spent hours listening to tapes and reading books that his upline pressured him to buy. He spent many hours each week hounding prospects to come to meetings. He went to every Amway meeting, rally, seminar, and major function. Those meetings ate up at least 50 hours a month and if a major function out of state for the weekend was in there, easily over 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings including travelling to them.

Let’s not forget the hours each week he spent talking on the phone and dealing with the endless text messages with the upline.

Ambot easily doubled, if not tripled, Amway’s estimate of 10 to 15 hours per week once all the meetings, listening to tapes, and studying Amway is added up.

Ambot put in plenty of time and effort and his upline still rode his ass accusing him of not working hard enough. He was told the reason he wasn’t succeeding at the Amway business was because he was lazy and not trying hard enough.

Let’s see. Someone investing at least 100 hours a month into any project is not a lazy person. They are on a mission and determined to succeed and accomplish their goal even when the odds are stacked against them, like Amway’s success rate is a fraction of less than 1%.

What kind of motivation techniques is the upline using accusing people of being lazy, not trying, not working hard enough? This is clearly more than my Ambot’s upline because so many former IBO’s have the same story that their upline (not related to ours) said the exact same thing.

There are better ways to motivate people.

Oh I forget. Upline is not there to motivate. They are there to brainwash. Like the good cult leaders they have been trained to be, they scold, they mock, they punish, they blame. Even more than wanting to succeed at an Amway business, the followers want to please their leader. They try harder, they put in more effort. They are scolded and belittled time after time when they don’t get results, specifically sponsoring new IBO’s.

Fortunately, many IBO’s get tired of this degrading treatment and quit “the business”. Sadly, usually not before some major financial and emotional damage has been done.


  1. When i was considering joining amway i asked my future upline if it was ok to buy just the literature portion. Since i did some research and amway said it was ok to sign up just buying the literature portion. Of course my upline direct and diamond freaked out cause they realize they wouldnt be making any money on me. They gave me this whole speach of not being committed to the business and giving a half ass effort. They literally ganged up on me infront of a plan showing and made fun of me. Right then i realize they didnt care if i made a profit or not. I remember questioning the cost of the business like voicemail,functions,tapes etc.This was almost 20 years ago and seems like things havent changed much.

  2. Gee Your hubby would have been better off working at the local gas station or mcds partime for min wage. Putting in so many hours a month and losing money is a tough pill to swallow

  3. Colin, nothing's changed much in 20 years. In meetings the Platinum held he usually ganged up on at least one person. Every meeting he would go off on a rant that there were people in his downline who weren't listening to the CD's, not on Kate, etc and I guess that's why he was ticked due to no profit from those tools. You're right he would have made at least made some money working a minimum wage job instead of putting in all those hours dedicated to Amway.

  4. It is sad, but hard work doesn't equal Amway success. Many IBOs bust their butts but get nothing out of the Amway business. Basically the system is flawed and Amway's reputation is too much for most to overcome.

  5. The system is designed for failure.

  6. The system is designed for success...the success of your uplines' back pockets via the Amway Tool Scam:

  7. Exactly, otherwise how are they suppose to make a living without your hard-earned money.


Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
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9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
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