Friday, January 28, 2011

Best Friends ForNeverMore!

Amway was like an expensive social club for Ambot. He actually liked most of those people. He must have really liked their promises about always being his friend.

I wasn’t friends with any of these Amway people prior to Ambot wanting to sign up. I knew the sponsor because Ambot has known him for many years. He’s an unreliable, arrogant prick. Those are his finer qualities. It goes downhill from there. I haven’t liked him for many years. He’s always doing one thing or another to piss me off. Usually by borrowing something from Ambot and not returning it. Not showing up when he said he’d be there. Not answering his phone. I can list off specific events over the years but I’m not going to turn this post into something that will takes hours to read. Suffice it to say I think everyone reading this blog has figured out a long time ago that I can’t stand the bastard.

I didn’t know anybody else prior to the Amway dark days. Most of them weren’t people I’d associate with anyway. We’re talking mostly males at least 20 years younger than me.

I don’t want them as friends so no big loss to me when the upline sends a command out to the downline that no one is to have anything more to do with us because we quit Amway. We are horrible people. We are losers. More specifically we are broke losers. Etc, etc.

Ambot has said he wishes he could have come back as a fly on the wall to listen to one of the Platinum’s rants after we left Amway. Oh well no big deal. I heard plenty of that sack of shit’s rants while we were still in.

I think the loss of their friendship did hurt Ambot. He really believed their lies that they would always be his friend. He failed to see that when people are driven by greed and you shut off their money supply by no longer purchasing expensive Amway products and tools, that they turn around and shut off their friendship. Fortunately these friendships were short lived. Damage was done by those upline assholes but we got out before anything was irreparable.

As far as I’m concerned real friends aren’t interested in you only for your money. Real friends don’t turn their back when you stop giving them money. Ambot understands this now. These fake friends may have stroked his ego for a few months but they disappeared real fast when he wasn’t going to fund their dreams any more.

There was a fellow in our LOS that we ran into a few months later totally by chance at a gas station and Ambot went over to chat with him. He was polite and did chat while filling up but he did say “I’m not really supposed to be talking to you.” So that’s how we know the Platinum got the word out about us that we’re poison.

In that regard the Platinum did us a small favor by telling everyone not to associate with us. Except damn it that arrogant prick who sponsored us is still hanging around. Every now and then I complain to Ambot that he is disobeying the Platinum’s orders by speaking to him. Ambot tries to convince me it doesn’t count when none of us are in Amway anymore.

That’s just not fair!


  1. I agree with wanting to be a fly on the wall....

    And Ambot is wrong, he's not allowed to make decisions about friends any more. Look where it got him the last time :-)

    Of course, it's easy for me to listen to my wife, she's got a Mensa level IQ and is so good with money that my Mom (who could squeeze quarters out of a rock herself) is in awe of her. I bet that my wife could have convinced someone to pay her to take the rock, squeezed the quarters, then sold the rock as a residual income source. LOL!!!!

  2. Yeah most of you guys learn the hard way to listen to your wife! I was on a cruise ship and the cruise director was asking the audience who'd been married the longest and there was a couple who'd been married 63 years. The cruise director asked what their secret was and the husband said he learned very early on to say "yes dear". Good advice for all married men!

  3. Kudos to your wife, Graham. I love a sale when it is truly a good deal.

    Everything I buy has to earn its keep in my home. No slacker crap allowed.

    I remember sneaking phone calls to my upline when they quit. We were best friends and Christians, to boot. I simply couldn't believe this is what Jesus would do - not speak to someone over *amway*??????

    We are adults. No one tells me who I can or cannot speak to w/o a .38 pointed at my temple. Even then my last words would be, "Duck."

    CASSETTE TAPE, Anyone?

  4. Cassette Tape, I'm with you. I wrote a little bit about my story on Anna's Walking Away From Ambot post and I told a little about how I lost my "BEST FRIEND" because of Amway. Its been 8 months and she won't speak to me. She told me that I had turned on all of the people who had been there for me and that it was her duty as my friend to tell me I was settling for an average life. Then she told me that with all she had going on in her life, she couldn't afford to be a garbage can. This was after I told her I had been suffering with a life threatening illness and just needed a friend, not Scamway. I certainly learned a lot from Amway: HOW NOT TO TREAT PEOPLE!!

    Thanks for sharing part of your story on the other post as well. I appreciate the support more than you know. I am reading MOD right now, and it makes me want to puke. I still have a really hard time feeling like I'm not a loser, even though deep down I know I'm not. I guess its the guilt I still feel for watching TV. But I love TV and my upline can suck general.

    Former Ambot

  5. Anonymous - Just another fake best friend. IBO's own pretend business. They're fakes. I discount pretty much everything they say.

    Did you ever ask your friend what is so wrong about settling for an average life? Who's your friend to judge what's an average life anyway. Oh I forgot. That's what IBO's do. Judge people and look down their noses at them.

    Today my husband was telling a friend of ours that he had a hard time too after leaving Amway because of the damage done by the Platinum brainwashing them to believe everyone who leaves Amway is a loser. He said he really believed that about himself for some time afterward.

  6. Anna,
    Yeah. I'm working on that one still. But you're right, reading MOD is really helping me cope. And coming onto your blog. Its like having a sudden virtual support group.

    I never asked my friend any real questions as to her opinions. I knew what kind of mind control she was under and honestly she was too busy yelling at me. I just didn't want to fight about it. I knew that I was making the right decision for my future and just felt that maybe if I pray for her instead, maybe one day she'll come around. The sad part is that I was just as defensive and brainwashed at one time, although I never screamed at anyone because they quit!

    All I know is I'm BEYOND grateful that my real friends are there for me and don't judge me for trying to get them into a cult!! LOL...
    You live you learn:)

  7. Lobotomized for AmwayJanuary 31, 2011 at 5:57 AM

    The thing that really pisses me off about this friend thing is that it's a tactic used to keep us plugged in. It has NOTHING to do with friendship. These a-holes use access and friendship as a carrot. When us good little ambots do our job...errr I mean build our business by showing the plan, buying audios, reading books, attenting seminars, attending opens, we are given "access" we get to rub elbows for the elite. When we don't we are cast out and cut off.

    That message is further reinforced by all the crap we are force fed - the constant stream of "positiveness" that tells us that if we want to be a winner we must associate with winners, and what's the only way to do that?? PAY FOR IT!!!! UGH, seriously?!

    These jackwagons have no intention of making friendships, they are simply using tactis and psychology to manipulate the masses that follow them.

  8. At a major function I listened to a Diamond "overcome an objection" when you tell a prospect that they sell Amway products to friends and family and the response is they don't really have any friends or a lot of friends. The IBO should then "Would you like to have some?" Instant friends once you join Amway though the prospect has no chance of selling them on the system because they're already on it!

    You're right lobotomotized. They're not interested in friendship, just manipulation and brainwashing and get their hands on your money.

  9. amway poop heads have an answer for everything.

    I love the word 'jackwagon.' Every time I hear it I think I need a Kleenex.

    But then I just skip on on over to 'mamby pamby' land and listen to another CASSETTE TAPE.


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