Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Dead or Broke by Age 65?

Our sack of shit Platinum says 95% of the population will be dead or broke by age 65. And the other 5%? They had their own businesses.

I mean what the fuck????!!!!

Where does this lying son of a bitch get his information from? Seeing as how I’ve seen other bloggers bring up similar figures I’m guessing our sack of shit Platinum didn’t make up this whopper all on his own. He was likely duplicating something an Emerald or Diamond said.

As for questioning him about where he got these statistics? Never question upline! Though he admitted he thought it was on the census. Yeah right I remember seeing those questions on the census form: “If you’re under the age of 65 are you dead?” and “Are you broke?” Like I need any further proof our Platinum is a fucking moron.

As for people dying before age 65, sadly people die for all kinds of reasons, no point in going into morbid details. I can not find anywhere on the Internet what percentage of people died before they turned 65. If I can’t find it how can those lying IBO’s find it? They can’t! That’s why they’re liars!

In this day and age people are living a lot longer. We have great advances in medical and science and generally speaking people live healthier lifestyles watching what they eat, exercising, and not smoking. People with healthy lifestyles are easily living into their 80’s and 90’s. And most of the people I know in those age groups are fairly well off or at least of comfortable means. They own their own homes, collect social security, and have savings and investments that they live off.

How does the sack of shit Platinum know how many people are broke by age 65 - the actual percentage. I’ve never recalled filling out any kind of government survey that asks the question “are you broke”. I’m not sure many people would admit to it on a survey anyway!

I can find no substantiated documentation that 95% of the population is dead or broke by age 65, therefore I come to the logical conclusion that our sack of shit Platinum is a fucking liar. If he chose to repeat lies that originated further upline then he’s still a fucking fool for repeating them without substantiating their validity.

Does anyone have any doubt that I can’t stand our Platinum! Ha ha!

There are lots of people who plan badly for their future. That doesn’t mean they’ll be broke or dead by age 65. There are lots of people who aren’t business owners. That doesn’t mean they’ll be broke or dead by age 65.

Other things may happen too. A spouse might die, loss of a job could lead to other financial woes such as unable to pay the mortgage, or illness or injury could make earning a living nearly impossible.

The above paragraph defines people that IBO’s typically prey upon to recruit into Amway. People who are already in a sad state of affairs and in a poor financial position and who can least afford to lose money are sucked into the Amway scheme by nasty ambots who fill their heads with dreams of financial freedom.

Now let’s move on to the lie about the 5% of the population who are not dead or broke by age 65 simply by the virtue of owning their own business.

Owning your own business puts an invisible shield around you that guards you from being killed in an accident or dying from a disease by age 65?

Apparently that’s what brainwashed ambots believe. Or at least what our lying sack of shit Platinum wants to brainwash them into believing.

Brainwashed ambots are also led to believe that because someone owns a business they will be successful and never be broke.

Another lie taught by the lying upline. Business fail for all kinds of reasons sometimes at great personal financial loss to the business owner that they might not ever be able to recover from. Including phony Amway businesses!

The upline brainwashes ambots into believing they are real business owners because they slapped down $150 for an Amway registration fee and $300/month for Amway products for personal consumption, and a few hundred more a month on Amway tools and functions. The upline teaches that this means they are part of the imaginary 5% of business owners who will live past 65 and will never be broke.

OK. Before signing up to this fantasy tell the upline liar to provide proof of those statistics. Would be interesting to see what they come up with. Pretty hard to back peddle out of that lie!


  1. LOL, why are the old diamonds still working? Because they have to?

    Seems like retiring and walking the beaches of thw world because of an Amway business is just as much a myth as bigfoot. Everyone's heard about it but nobody has actually provided proof that they exist.

  2. Actually, this statistic is true ... in 1930!!! And even then it's probably closer to 50% than 95%.
    (This is one of the argument the gov't use for creating Social Sec system).
    It's absolutely/patently false today. Otherwise, we won't have the SS deficit :)

  3. Joecool - old Diamonds never die? Yeah its gotta suck if you have to keep working past age 55 or 60 or 65 or whatever age you deem to be retirement age.

  4. rlaurens - interesing article. Even more interesting if the Amway liars have to go back to the great depression era for their facts and figures which are still off. 50% poverty for elderly during the depression, less than 10% poverty today for that age group. Lets see if the Amway liars update their information. Unlikely when you're in the business of scamming people with your lies!

  5. Only dead broke 65 yr olds are the ones who are still involved in amway at that age. I use to sit through the house meetings thinking where they get these stats from? They didnt have the internet back then and nobody bothers to look up these stats or research it.

  6. JoeCool-Amway retirement like Bigfoot? LMAO!! That's hilarious!

  7. In George Orwell's allegory of a totalitarian State, 'Animal Farm', the starving animals are enslaved by the promise of retirement, and endless food and leisure, in a future secure paradise. The fat and greedy pigs who rule the farm, paint a pretty picture of a sunlit green pasture that will be set-aside for the exclusive use of the most loyal, and hard-working, animals. In reality, when the old cart horse, Boxer (who is the most loyal and hard-working animal), becomes too old and sick to be of any further value to the pigs, he is secretly sold for slaughter to a glue factory.

    'Amway', like all cults, is an exloitative totalitarian State in microcosm. Anyone who wants to understand how the reality-inverting 'Amway' regime is not at all original, should read 'Animal Farm.' Notice how Orwell's thought-provoking book is not on the list of 'Amway's' recommended (thought-stopping) reading-matter.

    David Brear (copyright 2011)

  8. walking here with a smile. take care.. have a nice day ~ =D

    Regards, (A Growing Teenager Diary) ..

  9. David - thats a good analogy though its been a few decades since I last read Animal Farm....

  10. Hello Mr Lonely! Didn't you do a drive by spamming on my blog a few months ago? The only taker I'm afraid you're going to get is Colin who will undoubtedly report back to us about how dumb ass your web page is!

  11. i heard this lie in BWW over and over. i guess it was designed to scare newbies to lose future hope from their current endeavors and join or continue staying in scamway.

    you know this stat of 5% that ambots like so much to claim also destroys another one of their lies. how many of the 5% are scamwayites?

    if not all of the 5% are ambots oh well excuse me then. that means scamway is not for everyone, not everyone will do/does it. huh, very telling. it therefore follows that evidently it's not the best "business" in the world bar none. people do do other businesses.

    so all you ambots know this is an unsupported claim by your cult leaders. ibo's stop lying, stop repeating the lies you heard from stage, cd or whatever, and try to think for yourselves.

    in the meantime any ibo is welcome to point us to a legitimate source of these numbers. i would not mind to eat my crow.

  12. ExAmbot - it was WWDB for us which is futher proof that all the LOS teach the same lies. The IBO's will never be able to point out a legitimate source for the bullshit they parrot because it does not exist. If you confront them on their lies they'll do the usual name calling. The trademark of a successful scammer is how well they lie. If they're no good at lying they'll be no good at scamming other people out of their money. I'm sure you also heard the same bullshit about how social security and your pension won't be there when you retire. How come we never hear about this anywhere else except inside Amway meetings?

  13. 95% of all statistics are wrong 80% of the time, 9 times out of 10.

  14. Here's some more statistics.

    100% of CORE IBO's are liars.

    95% of IBO's who are not CORE are liars.

    The other 5%? They're married to ambots and tell it like it is and wish their husbands would find a more honest reputable business.

  15. Here's a really interesting article-from a former fraudster who writes a blog called White Collar Fraud- on the art of 'spinning" which is a fancy name for lying:

    All the articles are informative but I found the one on "spinning' to be the best. My favorite quote:

    "When you cannot defend your actions or arguments attack the messenger to detract attention from your questionable actions".

    Sounds like Ambots to me!

  16. Connie - certainly in our line of WWDB our Platinum was very good at attacking people especially when the other person was probably right and he had no defense or response. Son of a bitch doesn't like losing any arguments. He even told us that his wife has never won an argument with him. Now that has got to be a happy marriage! Asshole!


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