Fuck You IBO!

It finally happened! Someone did a Google search for “fuck you IBO” and found my blog! You guessed it. Number 1 on the search engine!

Yes this is definitely the place to be if you want to tell any IBO you’ve ever met: “Fuck you!” Or live vicariously through me saying it.

Depending on your perspective there are different types of IBO’s to say fuck you to:

1. from the point of view of someone who is not associated with Amway and does not want to be associated with Amway and does not want to be hounded by Amway IBO’s

2. from the point of view of someone who has a spouse, family member, or good friend who is an Amway IBO

3. from the point of view of a former IBO who has found out the truth about Amway and the tool scam

So rather than say fuck you over and over in each sentence I’ll just say it once at the top of the list.

FUCK YOU IBO:

1.      for saying where else can you start up your own business for only $150 but neglecting to mention all the other costs once you’ve paid your start up fee

2.     for saying people who have nothing good to say about Amway are only trying to steal your dream

3.     for saying people who don’t support your Amway business don’t want you to succeed

4.     for saying “don’t say negative!”

5.     for saying buy from your own store

6.     for trying to break up marriages

7.     for saying the more meetings and functions you attend the more successful you will be

8.     for saying “You can’t quit now because you haven’t been in it long enough to succeed” no matter how many years you’ve been in Amway

9.     for hounding me to buy your shitty overpriced products

10. for lying about how the upline does not profit from the sale of Amway tools

11.   for lying about how you’ll only spend 10 to 15 hours a week in this business

12. for criticizing people who have J.O.B.s

13.  for saying you’ll always be broke as long as you’re working for someone else

14. for saying you must be on DITTO

15.  for saying you must be CORE

16. for being disrespectful

17.  for bringing misery to people’s lives

18. for saying you must always listen to tapes (oops I fucked up by saying TAPES!!! IBOFB will be in to leave a comment that tapes haven’t been sold since he was shitting his diapers and CD’s have been sold for the past few decades)

19. for forcing us to buy tools by saying you won’t work with us if we don’t buy them (even though the Amway literature says buying tools from your LOS is optional and your upline can’t refuse to mentor you and assist you to build a business if you don’t buy them)

20.for wanting your errands done for free

21. for saying attend all functions no matter what else is going on in your life

22. for not getting off my ass about recruiting me as an IBO

23.for getting bitchy if we question anything

24. for brainwashing us

25.for lying about how everyone in the upline is very successful

26. for telling us an Amway business is a great tax shelter and everything is tax deductible

27.for not taking “NO” for an answer

28.for telling us to sign up our dog and cat as downline IBOs

29. for not minding your own fucking business

30.for lying about being debt free

31.  for being bullies

32.for telling us to charge Amway products and functions onto our credit cards

33. for lying about Amway owning the Amway Arena in Orlando Florida

34.for lying about the health benefits of Perfect Water

35. for blaming people who don’t succeed in their Amway business as being lazy

36.for blaming people who don’t succeed in their Amway business as not trying hard enough

37. for underestimating the power of the Internet

38.for telling us to wear business attire to all meetings

39.for lying about how Artistry is one of the top 5 best selling cosmetics in the world

40. for telling us not to have any competitor’s products in the house if Amway sells a similar product

41. for telling us to lie to prospects so they don’t know they’re coming to an Amway meeting

42. for telling us to do what our upline tells us to do because they’re the only ones with a sincere interest in us

43.for lying about how you’ll be our best friends forever

44.for saying duplicate your upline

45.for telling us that self consumption is essential to our success in the Amway business

46.for forcing your personal beliefs upon us

47.for saying that people who refuse to be part of the Amway business are losers

48.for saying don’t do anything and don’t buy anything without first counselling with your upline

49.for telling us not to socialize with friends and family who are not in the Amway business

50.for saying “always edify your upline”

51.  for being annoying as hell

52.for lying about how you’ll buy back books and tapes (ah shit I meant CDs) if we decide not to build an Amway business

53. for lying about how we’ll collect residual income for the rest of our lives

54.for telling us to cancel our plans if you want to schedule a last minute business meeting

55. for saying “if the dream is big enough then the facts don’t count”

56.for berating us if we didn’t bring any prospects to an Amway meeting

57. for giving us “lines” to use to trick people into attending an Amway meeting

58.for holding late night meetings

59.for causing financial losses

60. for causing emotional distress

61. for scolding us if we miss a meeting

62.for being the biggest bunch of liars I’ve ever met

63.for being the greediest assholes I’ve ever met

64. for being the biggest troublemaking bastards I’ve ever met

OK I think I’ve said enough fuck you’s for now. If I keep thinking about it the list will keep growing and I have to stop this post sometime! Feel free to load up the comments with the many ways you want to say FUCK YOU IBO

Is $75,000 the Magical Platinum Income?

When we attended Amway cult meetings our sack of shit Platinum sometimes asked who in the room earns at least $75,000/year.

It must have pissed him off to no end that my Ambot was the only person to raise his hand because he stopped asking that question after a few times of us attending his cult meetings. And it must have really pissed off that bastard that my husband makes more money than he does!

I think $75,000/year is the bragged about Platinum income, give or take a few thousand. Through research since I quit Amway I know that income can not be earned at the Platinum level. Nor the $125,000 an Emerald is supposed to earn, again give or take a few thousand depending on who is bragging about the money amount. I found this out by reading Eric Scheibeler’s book Merchants of Deception that as an Amway Emerald with a thousand people in his downline, he was only earning around $30,000/year, again give or take a few thousand. Also I saw a Youtube video of a former Emerald who said he only made between $2000 and $3000/month when he was with Scamway. He couldn’t afford to stick it out any longer in Amway and now makes a better income.

I doubt a Platinum can earn $75,000/year unless he’s running a lot of retail through his business which is nearly next to impossible to find regular customers willing to buy overpriced substandard Amway products.

So that “who makes $75,000/year” question probably brings another question to mind for everyone reading my blog. The same question that went through my mind.

Why in the hell would someone who already owns their own business and earns at least $75,000/year be interested in an Amway business and taking a cut in income?

I couldn’t figure out why my husband would want to shelf his legitimate business to get into a business where he makes less money a year. On a business built on a lies.

Fucking crazy!

Until I understood that my husband was being brainwashed by an evil cult.

And that’s when it became terrifying. The hold this evil cult has on its victims. Driven by greed. The Amway cult demands full control over their cult members money and their sanity.

I Won’t Work With You If You Don’t Buy The Amway Tools

Amway’s literature glosses over how some of their line of sponsorship groups sell motivational items. As a disclosure the Amway literature states - and here I’m paraphrasing - that purchasing these motivational tools is optional and that your upline is still required to help you build an Amway business whether or not you purchase the motivational tools.

Its kind of Amway’s bullshit way of distancing themselves from the tool scam.

Bottom line is none of those groups and here I’ll just pick on our line WWDB - World Wide Destructive Bastards - are able to sell any of the items on their tool scam list without running it past some head honchos at Amway’s head office for their approval of the item first. Really can you imagine if some Diamond says something on a CD to the effect of “I recommend you don’t buy XS Energy Drinks because they taste like cat piss!” Amway would fire the bastard and a Diamond CD like that would never get approved. Or if there’s a video that shows a Diamond doing a load of laundry comparing Tide with SA8 and the clothes washed in Tide come out cleaner! Yup. There’s a reason why Amway’s head office approves anything sold to the masses in the lines of sponsorship. They are very much aware of the tool scam but put in this little bullshit disclaimer on their literature.

Our Platinum didn’t give a flying fuck about violating Amway’s rules. He said at every Amway meeting “If you don’t buy the tools I won’t work with you.”

Of course that meant the ambots would buy tools at a feverish pace to stay in the good graces of their cult leader. They worshipped him and coveted his affection and if he wanted them to blow all their money buying useless Amway motivational CDs and books, their only question was how many?

Once I noticed that disclaimer in Amway’s literature - and this took me a few months - I phoned the head office to file a complaint against our sack of shit Platinum who was forcing IBO’s in his downline to purchase tools holding a threat over their heads about refusing to help them build an Amway business. As usual I was dealing with Amway’s help desk, better known as the unhelpful desk or the I-don’t-give-a-shit department. Their standard response went to the effect that they weren’t responsible for what is said at Amway meetings.

I mean what the fuck! Then WHO is responsible for what is said at Amway meetings? Excuse us for thinking Amway’s head office would give a flying fuck about one of their Platinums breaking the rules. Well you know when ALL the Amway Platinums are breaking the rules - because there’s no doubt in my mind that other Platinums use the same threat - Amway’s best course of action is not to take any action. Amway’s head office ain’t going to make waves with someone who might be running $25,000 worth of Amway products through his downline every month.

So even though Amway’s literature states that IBO’s are not required to purchase tools and the upline is still required to help the IBO build an Amway business whether or not the motivational tools are purchased, Amway refuses to enforce their own policy or take action against offenders.

Turn a blind eye to the tool scam!

Well I’m not turning a blind eye. I’m here blogging about the abuse we took from our Platinum. Not everyone loves Platinums as much as the people who work at Amway’s head office. People at Amway’s head office think Platinums should be worshipped and spoken about in glowing terms. They must find it really hard to turn a blind eye when they read my blog that tells it like it is when it comes to describing a fucked up Amway Platinum. For some oddball reason Amway’s preference is to let former IBO’s post all over the Internet about their experiences with Amway and their upline instead of making things right when they receive complaints. Amway prefers not to take action when they get complaints and would rather read on the Internet about a scamming lying sack of shit Amway Platinum. So one more time I send out a big old FUCK YOU to our Platinum!

And I continue to warn people about the dangers of getting involved in Amway and having to put up with an evil, lying, scamming, sack of shit Platinum.

Walk Across That Stage!

One of the things we heard over and over and over at Amway meetings was “walking across the stage”. It referred to when ambots reached a certain volume of Amway products being sold in their business or through the combined efforts of any downline they might have buying Amway products that at the next rally they would “walk across the stage”.

The bottom starter was 1000 pin level meaning that 1000 worth of points bonus in Amway products had to be sold that month. Or approximately $3000 worth of shitty overpriced Amway products.

Most ambots who reach the 1000 pin level are what our Platinum referred to as phony pins. Wait a minute! Guess what? This is a rare moment! That sack of shit actually said something I agree with!

The Amway business is built on the slogan to “buy from your own business” so most of that $3000 would be single handedly purchased by the ambot who hopefully had enough room on his credit card to afford it.

At least once. After the first shot ambots have a shitfull of Amway shit lying around the house and if the wife has anything to say about it - this better not fucking happen again! Get rid of all this shit!

It gets kind of expensive shelling out $3000/month on useless overpriced Amway shit. The old credit card can’t take too much of this.

Nor can the wife!

Both the financial hit and getting stuck with Amway shit in the house!

This was a message taunted to ambots at every Amway cult meeting. “Don’t you want to walk across the stage?”

Uh. No. Like I haven’t walked across a stage enough times in my life already. One of the joys about growing up in this part of the world is that theater classes and school plays are very common. I’ve been on enough stages. Been there. Done that. Don’t need to do it no more. Being on a stage is really no big deal.

Unless of course you’re an Amway ambot then the cult leaders make it a big deal.

This type of Amway cult meeting is called a rally. Its where the dumb ass ambots who spent too much on their credit card to get to 1000 pin level can walk across the stage. A small smattering of higher pin levels may also be walking across the stage the same day/night.

I remember going to 3 rallies. I may have gone to more but I remember 3 of them for various reasons. What happens at rallies where ambots “walk across the stage”  is the speaker tells the ambots to line up on one side of the stage in order of the pin level they’ve reached since the last rally. Of course the speaker - Emerald or Diamond - I can’t recall which was speaking has no idea who’s coming across stage except for maybe some in their own line. So he calls for the 1000 pins and about 100 people line up. They walk across the stage and they’re told to keep it short. Walk across the stage to the microphone, Say who they are and boast about the wonderful cult leaders in their upline, and then haul ass off the other end of the stage. Still takes forever. Longer than sitting through a performance of Snow White! Once those assholes finish prancing across the stage then the speaker asks the 2500 pins to get in line. And now the line diminishes greatly. Whoever has higher limits on their credit cards I suppose. For the higher levels hardly anyone gets in line and they’re allowed to talk longer. I mean shut the fuck up you cult leaders in training. Nobody gives a shit!

Rallies are excruciating because they take so long because of all those phony 1000 pins who will likely never be a 1000 pin again. Then it gets worse when the higher pins can blab for 15 or 20 minutes each. It only seems like longer!

So spend enough money on your credit card to reach 1000 pin one month and that means you get about 15 seconds of Amway fame as a bunch of cult followers watch you walk across the stage. Is it really worth spending $3000+? Sign up for your local theater production and it will cost you less money and you’ll probably spend more time walking on the stage and be better appreciated.

You Didn’t Try Hard Enough!

“You didn’t try hard enough!” Is the battle cry of brainwashed ambots.

I’ve heard it lots of times. At Amway meetings and especially since I’ve been writing this blog. Some brainwashed ambot who has been religiously studying at Amspeak College shows up to accuse me of not trying hard enough.

However not one single ambot who I know personally or who enjoys reading and commenting on “negative” blogs like mine has ever once defined the criteria of what is “trying hard enough”. Or for that matter what “not trying hard enough” is either.

My ambot husband wanted to succeed at this Amway business, even though the odds - with a 99% failure rate - were stacked against him that he wouldn't. More than the promised financial freedom with the gazillions of dollars in residual income that would magically show up each month in our bank account, success in Amway would mean basking in the bliss from the Amway cult leaders that he adored so much.

All over the Internet are blogs and forums from former Amway IBO’s who say pretty much the same thing. They worked hard, put a lot of hours and effort into building an Amway business, and despite doing everything their cult leaders told them to do and being CORE it didn’t work out.

Similar to the ambot battle cry of not trying hard enough that is also the same flimsy accusation they fling out at former IBO’s who didn’t sponsor anyone - because they didn’t try hard enough.

Some Amway IBO’s sign up due to pressure from whoever the recruiting ambot is - more than likely a family member or good friend. Anyone else and they would have probably told the ambots to go fuck themselves. These unwilling IBO’s paid their $150, got their start up kit, and that was the extent of their Amway involvement. They never had no intention of putting in any work, just wanted to help out the person who hounded them into signing up and get them off their back. Those are not the same people who get the word out on the Internet about how they were scammed into the Amway cult and tell their story of what really happens when you’re an Amway IBO because they really have no idea what happens if their only involvement was paying the registration fee and telling the sponsor to fuck off and leave them alone.

My Ambot worked hard and put in plenty of effort to build an Amway business. He spent hours glued to the computer taking the Amway university program. He spent hours studying the Amway literature and product magazines. He memorized everything. He could answer questions about the Amway board plan or Amway products and knew as much or more than his upline. He spent hours listening to tapes. Oh fuck. Make that CDs! Every time I say tapes instead of CDs IBOFB shits his diapers and demands to know where I found tapes from since no one’s made them forever! Ambot read books that his upline pressured him to buy. He spent many hours each week hounding prospects to come to meetings. He went to every Amway meeting, rally, seminar, and major function. All those meetings ate up at least 50 hours a month and if a major function out of state for the weekend was in there, easily over 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings including travelling to them.

Let’s not forget the hours each week he spent talking on the phone and dealing with the endless text messages from the fucking upline assholes.

Ambot easily doubled, if not tripled, Amway’s estimate of 10 to 15 hours per week once all the meetings, listening to tapes, and studying Amway is added up.

Ambot put in plenty of time and effort and his upline still rode his ass accusing him of not working hard enough. He was told the reason he wasn’t succeeding at the Amway business was because he was lazy and not trying hard enough.

Let’s see. Someone investing at least 100 hours a month into any project is not a lazy person. They are on a mission and determined to succeed and accomplish their goal even when the odds are stacked against them, like Amway’s success rate of making around 100k/year is a fraction of less than 1%.

Uh dumb ass ambot husband. That’s less money than you make with your legitimate business. And more hours invested in Amway than your legitimate business. You going backwards just because you’ve been brainwashed by some lousy fucked up Amway cult leaders?

What kind of motivation techniques is the upline using accusing people of being lazy, not trying, not working hard enough? This is clearly more than my Ambot’s upline because so many former IBO’s have the same story that their upline said the exact same thing. And clearly is still being taught today judging by its pretty much in every comment left on my blog by some angry brainwashed ambot.

“Didn’t try hard enough!”

Yeah? Well fuck you!

What exactly is the definition of “trying hard enough” when it comes to Amway? Clearly it is spending more than 100 hours a month attending Amway meetings, functions, prospecting, etc. It is clearly spending more than $1000/month on Amway and Amway tools like my ambot husband.

And how does the fucking Amway upline motivate their cult followers to keep trying? Oh wait. Those bastards do not motivate. They brainwash. Like the good Amway cult leaders they have been trained to be, they scold, they mock, they punish, they blame. Even more than wanting to succeed at an Amway business, the followers want to please their leader. They try harder, they put in more effort like 100 hours a month wasn’t already trying hard enough. The ambots are scolded and belittled time after time when they don’t get results. The Amway cult leaders blame the ambots for their own lack of success.

Never blame the Amway system designed for failure and Amway tools and overpriced Amway products. Blame the ambots instead! They didn’t try hard enough.

Fortunately, many IBO’s get tired of this degrading treatment and quit “the business”. Now the only thing they have to do is try hard enough to keep one step ahead of their Amway upline who will be hopping mad that they have lost this stream of income.

Amway - the Kingpin of All Things Negative!

I can’t tell you how many times I heard Ambot parrot his upline “Don’t say negative!” This was usually after I commented on how expensive an Amway product is or how shitty it tastes. I was telling the truth. Truth. An evil word to ambots. Just because something is true does not make it negative. Like any other criticism one takes in life one must grow a thick skin and accept it civilly and if its constructive criticism instead of mean criticism become better or make changes because of it. However things are beyond an ambot’s control such as lowering the high price tag Amway puts on their products or quality control and actually make shit and piss taste better.

The upline cult leaders usually the pompous sack of shit Platinum and occasionally the Emerald would jabber on about don’t let negative influences into your life.

What a sheltered life that is for an ambot. Unable to tell the difference between the truth and the negative. Believing their cult leaders that they are the only people in the world who speak the truth and everyone else is a negative liar. The Amway cult leaders don’t want their downline to be influenced by outside forces who can reason, tell them the truth, and show the IBO’s that they’re wasting their time and more importantly wasting their money on trying to build an Amway business.

The upline bastards would say don’t read newspapers, don’t watch TV, don’t listen to the radio. Most of all they’d say don’t listen to people who aren’t in Amway.

Yet these same cult leaders all seemed to know what’s going on in the world. How can that be unless they’re being negative and watching TV or reading a newspaper?

These Amway bastards are the most negative people around despite all their sermons about not being negative. At every Amway meeting they’d preach fire and brimstone sermons about Starbucks locations closing down or other businesses closing their doors. They’d spout off tons of doom and gloom about the recession and people losing their jobs. Our Amway upline are the most negative people I’ve ever met in my life!

Since writing this blog I’ve had a few dozen negative ambots show up here who all say the same thing. Some canned amspeak response they’ve duplicated from their cult leaders. They all accuse me of being a broke loser. They all accuse me of working a job. They all predict I’ll be dead or broke by the time I’m 65. They all call me a negative unchristian dream stealer. I mean talk about NEGATIVE! Its the old Amway cult influence. Spread negativity around the world courtesy of being an Amway IBO.

Those fucked up brainwashed ambots think they’re better than everyone else and here they are violating their upline cult leader’s rules by coming to my blog and spreading their Amway negativity.

Becoming an Amway “independent business owner” running a fake business, putting on a business suit, carrying a cell phone, lying to people that the business is not Amway, making false product claims, marching off to 8pm Amway cult meetings, and sneering at people who are not in Amway does not make an ambot a positive role model.

Amway makes for a hell of a lot of misery and negativity in one’s life.

Drop out of Amway and that’s a big load of negative you’ll also be dropping.

Amway Cult Leaders Want to Bust Up Your Marriage

Our pompous sack of shit Platinum often said “If I don’t like you, I won’t do business with you.”  Liar! He’d do business with anyone he could just for the almighty dollar. 

A better slogan for him would have been “If I don’t like you and you refuse to do business with me, I’ll destroy your marriage.”

I was at an Amway meeting once where he ranted about one of the fellows in the room. They were in the same car driving back from Amway WWDB Family Reunion and the pompous sack of shit Platinum spent the 6 hour drive nagging him to leave his wife because she was holding him back in the business. He would never succeed in Amway as long as he was with his wife. And on and on it went. Sack of shit Platinum was even more outraged when they had a baby without asking his permission if they could start a family.

All I could think of was shut the fuck up asshole. Other people’s private lives are none of your business. Leave them alone. Asking “permission” for stuff going on in their private personal lives? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! Like I need any further proof that this is a cult leader trying to control other people’s lives!

On the drive home I told Ambot that the sack of shit has no business trying to destroy that couple’s relationship. Not a big surprise to me that Ambot admitted the fucker was trying to convince Ambot to leave me.

After a few unsuccessful months of trying his damnedest to convince Ambot to leave me the sack of shit Platinum cult leader tried another tactic. By this time I’d quit going to cult meetings because I couldn’t stand that fucking asshole Platinum and refused to show up anywhere that he might be which pretty much meant all Amway cult meetings. Ambot told me one night the Platinum bastard led the group in a prayerfest. He was bitching at Ambot and saying he wasn’t man enough for the Amway business and he didn’t deserve to be married to me because he wasn’t man enough. Tonight the Platinum sack of shit led the Amway meeting into a prayer group, praying that I would find another man and leave Ambot.

And these fanatic fucked up Amway cult members wonder why I can’t stand them. 

The only good thing that came out of that prayerfest is that Ambot saw the truth of this evil cult and stopped attending Amway meetings.

The Platinum’s preaching is that any man not getting ahead in the Amway business is because his wife is holding him back and he should leave her. If an IBO has a potential prospect and the wife isn’t interested, upline immediately jumps on their ass and proclaims its because this couple already has existing problems in their relationship. Its the old blame the victim scam that ambots regularly deploy whenever an IBO isn’t making money in Scamway.

Gee none of these fucking Amway assholes ever think that perhaps someone is not getting ahead in Amway is because its a system designed for failure and that less than 1% of IBO’s will make money at Amway. Did they ever think the reason a wife isn’t interested in Amway is because she doesn’t want to lose her money to this pyramid scheme? Nope. Amway cult followers are only in it for themselves and their fucked up beliefs.

The relationship problems only happen after getting involved in Amway. Happy marriages go sour after one spouse gets immersed in the cult and is constantly badgered by the upline to get the PV/BV up there and buy more products to the point of sucking dry the bank accounts and maxing out credit cards. Attend more meetings chasing futile dreams. Put another dollar in. Put a few more thousand dollars in. Got to keep this Amway cult thriving.

So now is another perfect opportunity to send a fuck you out to our fucking asshole sponsor because if he’d minded his own fucking business and backed off after I said not interested then Ambot would not have got sucked dry by the fucking Amway cult. Another fuck you out to the sack of shit Platinum for going out of his way to fuck up other people’s lives for no other reason than he’s a sorry sick fucked up reincarnation of Jim Jones. He is one of Amway’s shining 8pm warriors.

Actually I’ll send a big old fuck you out to Amway’s head office too for not doing anything when we complained about that fucking lying sack of shit Platinum. They must be so proud of their shining 8pm warrior who goes around fucking up other people’s lives all in the name of Amway.

Staying In Amway For Fear of Breaking Marriage

Yup, that was the criteria a searcher used and found their way to my blog: Staying in Amway for fear of breaking marriage.

Very disturbing. Not the part about fearing Amway because Amway should be feared.

I heard at countless Amway meetings how Amway saves marriages. And even some bullshit from our Platinum about how WWDB has a lower divorce rate than the rest of the population. How the hell he came up with that little gem I’ll never know. But then all he’s good at doing is spouting off lies and expecting his beloved cult followers to believe every word he says is true.

I think what I have to say about the hell I went through thanks to Amway and what other women have said, some who’ve left comments here, and other comments I’ve borrowed from other web pages speaks for itself.

The wives of ambots are victims in the Amway pyramid scheme.

We have to put up with husbands who are being brainwashed by their cult leaders. They turn into nasty, sarcastic, sneering assholes who are turned against everyone who doesn’t support their Amway business.

As our Platinum used to chant: “People who are not in Amway are stupid.”

Our husbands believe that. They don’t want to be around stupid people. And yes just because their sack of shit Platinum says it makes it true. In their brainwashed minds that is.

In addition to the personality change that women have to put up with from their ambot husband, they can also look forward to not spending much time with him. There will be at least two Amway meetings a week. Maybe as many as four. The upline will be demanding the husband’s attention either in the way of lengthy phone calls, never ending text messages, or being summoned to last minute counselling sessions.

Let me just take a moment to send a big fuck you out to our former upline now that I’m reliving those horrible memories! Fuck you assholes!

Also the wife has to deal with spending no time with the ambot husband. He’s not interested in family get togethers, going out with his wife and family for fun outings, going on vacation. Nothing. He’s not interesting in doing nothing unless its kissing his upline’s ass and going to Amway functions.

Then there’s the finances. Credit cards are being maxed out so the ambot can buy as many Amway products as his upline bullies him into doing. Gotta get that PV up there so some upline fucker can meet that month’s goals! Bank account is dwindling. Bills are not being paid. Rent or mortgage is a few months late and perhaps eviction or foreclosure proceedings have been started. No marriage needs that kind of stress added on to the participation in Amway being the cause of it.

Their credit scores have gone down the toilet.

And just a few months ago their marriage was great. There was no debt. They had some savings. Bills were never overdue. They were having fun together and loving life.

Then the evil monster named Amway took a shit on their marriage.

Wives can tolerate a lot of things from their husbands. There’s always that one ugly piece of furniture they want in the house. Or that Rolling Stones T shirt they had to buy. They always have some dipshit asshole for a friend that the wife can’t stand. They go through weird phases like when they decided buying a 4 wheeler was a good idea.

The problem with Amway is that the wife ends up having all her husband’s new friends turn against her if she doesn’t join him and stand by his side smiling stupidly at him and keeping quiet like a good little ambot wife. The upline ambots do everything they can to destroy the marriage telling the ambot his wife is a dream stealer, negative, unchristian, a loser. What ever those troublemaking bastards brainwash the ambot into believing. They are hell bent to destroy the marriage because she doesn’t support the Amway business and doesn’t want to put any more money into it or go further into debt trying futilely to be part of the less than 1% of IBO’s who actually earn money at Amway. She knows a business with a 99% failure rate has the odds stacked against them from the start. There are better ways to invest their money. Common sense decisions like that and cutting off money to the great Amway gods makes ambots scream out every lie they can to turn the husband against her.

The wife has fallen into a dark place when she has to hit the Internet with the question asking if she should stay in Amway even though its breaking up their marriage.

What does she kick out? Amway or the ambot?

Make $1000 a Month in Amway and then what?

Our sack of shit Platinum told us he’d show us how to make $1000 a month in Amway and then he’d tell us how to spend it.

Well he never did show us how we could make a thousand a month but most months Ambot easily spent around a thousand purchasing Amway products and tools or indirectly related to purchasing these items such as traveling expenses all under the rabid encouragement of his upline.

Even though we never made any money in Amway we were constantly hounded by the Platinum or others upline of us to spend our money and help make them richer.

Our sack of shit Platinum put it something to the effect that we’re going to use that thousand a month building our company and then our parents were going to get some rest. Nice how the bastard’s got his priorities straight. How does he interpret “building” an Amway business? Buying more Amway products for self consumption or inventory loading or investing in the tool scam. That’s not “building” a company. That’s purchasing shit from Amway and building Amway’s business and making their owners rich. As for our parents getting some rest, I mean what the hell? First off that’s an absolute insult to those of us in the room whose parents are already dead. Second where is it written that children are supposed to start up their own business so they can support their parents and give them some rest?

The Platinum threatened violence against any IBO he spotted driving a new car instead of investing their money back in the Amway business. Yup he was going to punch out the IBO and smash him over and over into the new car until he beat the shit out of both of them.

No worry of anyone in our line buying a new car. They were too busy investing all their money in the Amway scam.

As for the sack of shit’s generous offer of showing us how to spend our money, no thanks asshole. If an extra thousand a month drops into my bank account I can figure out how to spend it all by myself.

Dead or Broke by Age 65?

Our sack of shit Platinum says 95% of the population will be dead or broke by age 65. And the other 5%? They had their own businesses.

I mean what the fuck????!!!!

Where does this lying son of a bitch get his information from? Seeing as how I’ve seen other bloggers bring up similar figures I’m guessing our sack of shit Platinum didn’t make up this whopper all on his own. He was likely duplicating something an Emerald or Diamond said.

As for questioning him about where he got these statistics? Never question upline! Though he admitted he thought it was on the census. Yeah right I remember seeing those questions on the census form: “If you’re under the age of 65 are you dead?” and “Are you broke?” Like I need any further proof our Platinum is a fucking moron.

As for people dying before age 65, sadly people die for all kinds of reasons, no point in going into morbid details. I can not find anywhere on the Internet what percentage of people died before they turned 65. If I can’t find it how can those lying IBO’s find it? They can’t! That’s why they’re liars!

In this day and age people are living a lot longer. We have great advances in medical and science and generally speaking people live healthier lifestyles watching what they eat, exercising, and not smoking. People with healthy lifestyles are easily living into their 80’s and 90’s. And most of the people I know in those age groups are fairly well off or at least of comfortable means. They own their own homes, collect social security, and have savings and investments that they live off.

How does the sack of shit Platinum know how many people are broke by age 65 - the actual percentage. I’ve never recalled filling out any kind of government survey that asks the question “are you broke”. I’m not sure many people would admit to it on a survey anyway!

I can find no substantiated documentation that 95% of the population is dead or broke by age 65, therefore I come to the logical conclusion that our sack of shit Platinum is a fucking liar. If he chose to repeat lies that originated further upline then he’s still a fucking fool for repeating them without substantiating their validity.

Does anyone have any doubt that I can’t stand our Platinum! Ha ha!

There are lots of people who plan badly for their future. That doesn’t mean they’ll be broke or dead by age 65. There are lots of people who aren’t business owners. That doesn’t mean they’ll be broke or dead by age 65.

Other things may happen too. A spouse might die, loss of a job could lead to other financial woes such as unable to pay the mortgage, or illness or injury could make earning a living nearly impossible.

The above paragraph defines people that IBO’s typically prey upon to recruit into Amway. People who are already in a sad state of affairs and in a poor financial position and who can least afford to lose money are sucked into the Amway scheme by nasty ambots who fill their heads with dreams of financial freedom.

Now let’s move on to the lie about the 5% of the population who are not dead or broke by age 65 simply by the virtue of owning their own business.

Owning your own business puts an invisible shield around you that guards you from being killed in an accident or dying from a disease by age 65?

Apparently that’s what brainwashed ambots believe. Or at least what our lying sack of shit Platinum wants to brainwash them into believing.

Brainwashed ambots are also led to believe that because someone owns a business they will be successful and never be broke.

Another lie taught by the lying upline. Business fail for all kinds of reasons sometimes at great personal financial loss to the business owner that they might not ever be able to recover from. Including phony Amway businesses!

The upline brainwashes ambots into believing they are real business owners because they slapped down $150 for an Amway registration fee and $300/month for Amway products for personal consumption, and a few hundred more a month on Amway tools and functions. The upline teaches that this means they are part of the imaginary 5% of business owners who will live past 65 and will never be broke.

OK. Before signing up to this fantasy tell the upline liar to provide proof of those statistics. Would be interesting to see what they come up with. Pretty hard to back peddle out of that lie!

Amway’s Recruitment Tactics Similar to Cults

The first time we were in Amway we became clients of one of the people in our group who was a professional in her industry or so she claimed.

The goat incident questions her professionalism.

Mutual Amway friends lived on a small farm probably under 2 acres. They had bought a goat off this lady because she raised and sold them as a hobby. She threw in a second goat for them to keep the one they bought company. When our friends sold their house and downsized to an apartment they gave her back the two goats.

Now it gets weird. She starts phoning me and Ambot to see if we’d take the two goats. Back then we owned a small house with a tiny backyard. Where the hell are we going to keep goats? Our spare bedroom? She wouldn’t leave us alone about those fucking goats. I don’t even like goats! I didn’t interact with these two goats when our mutual friend owned them and I sure as hell didn’t want them. One day I was there and watched one of the goats jump our friend, wrap his hooves around him, and try to mount him. He was a big guy and able to fight off the beast. Maybe he should have got them neutered to reduce their sexual desire? These are just not the kind of animals that I would ever have any interest in owning even if I had room for them.

Over a period of two or three years she kept calling to badger me about the goats. I had no idea how difficult it was to give away 2 goats but apparently there’s not much interest in our part of the world. Makes me wonder how well she’s doing on goat sales if she can’t even give them away. She pissed me off so much about the fucking goats that I took my business elsewhere. I mentioned it to an acquaintance who is in the same profession. He said that is a violation of the code of ethics in the industry. She can’t be after her clients to sell or give away goats. He gave me the contact information of the regulating agency where I could file a complaint about her but I never did.

So why all this talk about goats when you’re expecting to hear about Amway’s recruitment tactics being similar to those of cults? I mean just get to the point Anna! Or are you doing the old Amway bait and switch trickery scam? Ha ha!

I’m getting there! This post really only serves to give a link to an interesting article called Amway’s Recruitment Tactics Similar to Those of Cults.

http://www.baskeptics.org/book/export/html/50

This article starts out about how a psychologist lost his license to practice after convincing clients to sign up in his Amway business.

That’s what made me remember the goats! Maybe I should have reported her and she’d have lost her license too even though she has nothing to do with the medical field, a different profession that is regulated. Oh shit I hope I’m not turning out like our former Platinum who would get sidetracked forever and rant about shit not even related to anything Amway.

I’m sure people losing their license to practice or getting fired from their jobs because of Amway is far more reaching than the one mentioned in this article. Most of the professions that Amway IBO’s would love to sign up in their downline have codes of ethic they have to follow and its likely some kind of breach to sign up their clients to an MLM using their position of authority as a stamp of approval.

Just like the woman trying to push her fucking goats on us!

The author of the article got tricked into going to an Amway meeting and was subjected to their cult tactics and he took notes. He was driven there by an ambot so he was basically stuck there trapped in a strange house in another town until his potential recruiter was ready to leave. I loved the part in the article where he describes how the street was packed with cars. He didn’t mention whether or not it was the clunker brigade! He writes about the charismatic likeable speaker who made fun of people who had jobs and who eventually got around to asking people in the room what their dreams are. And on and on it goes.

He described every Amway meeting I’ve attended!

Amway’s cult recruiting tactics have not changed over the years. This author breaks down the techniques so we can better understand why people do what they do when they’re under pressure in an Amway meeting.