Which means I must write some posts full of keywords to help some unsuspecting IBO’s learn the truth about what they have in store.
Here’s a quick sum up: “Dream Night - where your dreams turn into nightmares!”
According to the WWDB site Dream Night 2012 will be held during January in these cities: Toronto, Kalispell, Saskatoon, Spokane, Edmonton, Helena, Toledo, Las Vegas, Ontario, Honolulu, Boise, San Diego, Tri Cities, Vancouver, Fargo, Fort Meyers, Portland, Oshkosh, Victoria, Minneapolis, Medford, Chicago, Reno, Edmonton, Billings, Richmond, Bellevue, Seattle, Calgary, Philadelphia, Sacramento, Dallas, Phoenix, Anchorage, Salt Lake City, Albuquerque, Anaheim, Bakersfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, San Jose, Austin,
Our sack of shit Platinum used to say there was no reason to miss Dream Night even if you were out of town because there would always be a Dream Night near you. Also no problem if you had friends or relatives who lived out of town that you wanted to attend Dream Night because there would be one near where they lived and you could buy tickets for them. He went one further and said even if you were on vacation in Bermuda or Jamaica or wherever there would be a Dream Night being held somewhere near by. Maybe I’m a little off here but the above cities all appear to be in America or Canada London , or Tokyo , or Beijing , or Bogota North America ?
Judging by the proximity of some of those cities it would seem that some ambots could arrange to go to more than one Dream Night. But what about the poor bastards who live in Kentucky , Georgia , New Jersey
Amway WWDB Dream Night sucks!
Ana, do you happen to know if I am under a contract agreement when an ibo signed me up as a costumer under him/her? I don't remember signing anything on paper or clicking on an internet agreement in Amway's website. I just want to know because if I want to post my opinions on the internet, I don't wantt Amway to come and say I am bound by a contract to not speak, or something of that sort, or anything that binds me to anything with them. If I do have a formal agreement how do I void it?
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous! Perhaps one of my readers who actually had customers might be in a better position than me to answer your question!
ReplyDeleteThe best I recall my husband went on to the Amway website under our IBO number and signed up just about everyone we knew as a customer. Then he sent them all emails telling them he'd created them as customers and gave them the information, web link they'd need to place an Amway order. Its not like any of them actually bought anything! None of them signed anything or went on to Amway's site and clicked a link agreeing to any terms. They could place an order with Amway if they chose and none of them chose to do that!
There is something called an Amway prosumer. Did you pay any money, say $50 or $60 for the privilege of being an Amway customer to buy things at a wholesale price? I have no idea if the prosumers sign any contract.
Nonetheless I just looked at the IBO registration agreement that my husband and I signed. Mostly its just a bunch of legal terminology regarding signing the document, renewal, soliciting, selling trade secrets to competitors, blah, blah, blah. Nothing in there about talking about Amway.
As for not saying bad things about Amway, its only our upline who tells us not to speak negative. AKA the truth. When you cease to be an IBO they can no longer control you. It even says that in their contract for IBO's. All it says is you can't go to a competitor MLM and bring your customers with you for 2 years after you quit Amway.
In this country it is not against the law to have an opinion or to tell the truth. We're protected under freedom of speech and freedom of expression. Amway might not like that we're getting the truth out there but there's not much they can do about it.
Our cult leader preached that the ones who promote the the most will have the biggest cult groups, i mean "business!" It follows therefore, we got a license to lie - just spew crap to get people there. I have come to know a really good reason why it was emphasized to make it there - diamonds collect no, pocket either $40 or $60 from each person's ticket price downline to them, who attends these events.
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ReplyDeleteFirst and foremost you have the freedom of speech. Period! Any resonable limits stop at libel. Do not publish injurious lies. You can share your opinions or experiences. Scamway may not like it but it's the truth.
If you signed up as a customer, it doesn't stop you from blogging your truth or in other words "it don't mean squat!" So blog away.
If you are a prosumer it don't mean squat either, blog your truth. What's the worst they can do, expel you? Or try to prove you lied, the joke would be on them because then your truth would be confirmed. It's the last thing scamway wants out there - confirmed truth. Besides you have an inalienable right to change your mind. You can call or write them and resign. That's kinda cool.
Nah don't worry blog away your truth without fear. Welcome here and share as you will. Many await your insights.
ExAmbot - I think you need to check your keyboard!
ReplyDeleteWhen i go to vegas or hawaii. Id like to have fun,eat good food,and enjoy myself. Even if they have a function at every major city. It's a shitty vacation dealing with ambots & cult leaders all the time.
ReplyDeleteLibel lawsuits contain a thing called "discovery", apparently. If I were a huge scam, I would not want to go through it. Apparently Amway and the abo's agree.
ReplyDeleteWow. Tucson is no longer on the list? My, how times are changing.
ReplyDeleteHow in the world do you explain 'dream night' to people in light of OWS?
Dream Night is the epitome of greed. I always found it revolting. As children starve to death by the tens of thousands every day, we're supposed to be motivated by someone's yacht? gag me.
If I buy so much as a pair of shoes that I really don't need, I feel guilt. I think of how much food I could have given a poor child.
Why is it only material things that motivate? Why not love and compassion for others?
I never did get that yacht, or that Bently, or that mansion, or any other dump thing they paraded in front of us. Haven't lost a night of sleep yet.
The more you own, the more you have to take care of. I'm really paring down my life to basics. My life's mission is to be as spartan as possible.
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Thanks for taking the moment to consider this, I believe powerfully about it and love learning more on this topic.
ReplyDeleteHi there Hauling! Like I need any further proof that my keywords are working! Seeing as how you live in Mumbai you're going to have to really haul it to San Jose to get to Dream Night!
ReplyDeleteColin - nothing like wrecking your vacation by combining it with an Amway function!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - I double checked the WWDB calendar in case I missed it and I don't see Tucson. Looks like any IBO's in that area are going to have to invest in some travel time if their cult leaders insist they attend Dream Night!
ReplyDeleteYou're right. The more you own the more you have to take care of it or keep it dusted or clean. We've been doing some renovations and redecorating and have tossed, sold, or given away a lot of stuff.
Ever watch Hoarders? These people have so much shit that they can't clean and maintain their houses and they're falling apart. And why do I always have an urge to declutter after watching an episode????
OMG! I love Hoarders. I get up at every commercial and throw something out. It freaks me out to have anything superfluous when I watch that program. My hubby always asks how I can watch it. I clean out drawers, get rid of old clothes,shoes, anything that doesn't serve me. It gets me in a cleaning frenzy - and I'm already a clean freak.
ReplyDeleteI've tossed literally hundreds of old photos, orgranized and reorganized my office drawers, etc. If I buy a shirt, I get rid of a shirt (donated, of course). I keep trying to have less and less.
As I sit here, I'm eyeballing my Christmas tree and wondering what to get rid of this year when I take my tree down. My husband just left on a week-long trip, and I can't wait to start tossing. He's not too happy about my constant weeding-out sessions.
My sister puts me to shame. She hand scrubs all her doors and screen doors, her patio, windows, window screens, carport, etc. She is constantly Murphy-oiling her cabinets, handscrubs all her tile floors, takes apart her stove and cleans it. Gads. She drives us crazy. All while working 7 days a week (every week), taking care of our elderly mother and going to school. I fall down exhausted just looking at her.
I love having her over but I'm beginning to think she's just eyeballing my stuff to clean. She says she wants to get at my fireplace and wall hangings. Back, I say!
Sorry for the rant. I love her dearly. But can't we just once get together without repainting the house???
And I was working Amway? It's not wonder. You have to be compulsive about something in order to work like that.
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CT - did you see Hoarders last night? Standing in that room stacked high with dirty diapers and the earthquake hits!
ReplyDeleteThis people have serious mental disorders. For most people putting something into the garbage can and then setting the cans out of the curb every week for pick up is just part of life's skills. Its just incredible how some people can let their lives fall into serious disorder. No wonder they all suffer from stress and depression having to come home to a house like that.
As for housecleaning - everyone's got different perspects of what is clean. I'd say most people can at least see their floors whether or not its clean, they have the ability to sweep it if they choose, unlike those people on Hoarders.
It sounds like your sister is in the wrong line of work whatever it is! She'd do better as a cleaner/organizer. Probably get a lot of business from people just trying to get their lives back in order before they end up on Hoarders!
Anna;
ReplyDeleteHer clients call her their personal 'organizer.'
She is amazing. Now, in her mid-50's, she's back at school knowing she can't be on her knees cleaning forever. Also, she is THE workhorse at the prison. Everyone wants her in their pod. The inmates dread her cuz' she takes no prisoners. Pun intended!
She wants me to go to school with her. I may just do it. Even tho' I have a great business that has treated me well over the decades, I'm always thinking 'what if.'
I homeschooled our daughter while working our business and I learned how to maintain vs. spring clean every week. I constantly set the timer or use a song on the radio as my guide seeing how much I can get done in 3-4 minutes. It's actually fun. You'd be surprised how much you can pumice out a toilet in 4 minutes.
For those who say you come out of amway a better person for having been in, I say, learning how to get by on 3 hrs. sleep/night is not an admirable skill.
Now I just know there's a cabinet around here somewhere in need of straightening. Toodle-oo.
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CT - that is amazing your sister is going back to school at her age. My days of learning are long over! Well I guess the difference is if you're taking classes on something that's more a hobby rather than something that is career oriented. I do take yoga classes. No tests! No essays!
ReplyDeleteI didn't become a better person because of Amway. At my age I'm as good as I'm going to get!
Damn I need to get off of "Anna Banana's" blog. I'm losing braincells with every word I read. You guys are freaking crazy. I haven't read a single truth in this entire blog. Amway has made my life better in every walk of life. Oh.. and the money isn't a bad bonus either. Blog away low lives!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous from Vancouver Washington - you lost your brain cells a long time ago when you allowed your upline to brainwash you into the Amway scam. Reading my blog may help you see the light and restore some of those cells! If you really were making money in Amway you wouldn't be reading my blog and the Amway Global Cult Intervention blog coming here to seek the truth. However your upline has brainwashed you into believing that "truth" stands for "negative". You are unable to tell the difference.
ReplyDeleteIf you were speaking the truth I wouldn't be replying. I'm replying because everything you wrote about Amway has been an opinion. You don't have any true statistics, and are COMPLETELY incorrect. There is definitely no light in here.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I hope that if anyone is here trying to find more information about Amway that they might see my comments and realize this is all just false opinions. You are throwing away poples opportunities without any concern. Most people don't have enough money to open their own business, or don't want to go into debt for the risk of the business going under. So you should think about someone besides yourself miss "You'll never make as much as I do".
And how would anyone know if what is printed here is truth or not?
ReplyDeleteIf we are stating what happened to us and what we experienced in amway, who's to say it didn't happen exactly as we say it did?
It's amazing how one can believe every word that comes out from an amway stage, but the rest of the world is lying. Seriously?
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Anonymous - wrong. Everything I write about Amway is true. I sat in endless Amway meetings and functions and I write about what I went through. Certainly my opinion about my upline that they're a bunch of fucking assholes is just that - my opinion. Other people who actually like those assholes might have a different opinion!
ReplyDeleteMy blog is not to write about Amway. I am here to get the word out that my upline are a bunch of assholes. I have no problem making Amway look like a bunch of assholes at the same time but its not my priority.
My blog is very high on the search engines. People come here to learn the truth about what its really like when you sign up with Amway.
CT - remember you are dealing with a brainwashed ambot here. There is no reasoning with them. The only truth they know is what they've been brainwashed by their cult leaders to believe. This particular ambot refuses to believe that I went through hell thanks to the assholes in my upline and we lost a lot of money and went through emotional distress. Yeah I must be making all that up and then writing about it here just for kicks!
ReplyDeleteHey listen guys you guys should be bashed this business. I'm an IBO myself so quit talking bad things about me and my upline's lifestyle. This business is not a scam maybe some of you guys' upline did lie to you but mine didn't. Somethings in life you have to figure out and experience yourself. This business does work if you apply everything from your upline and most important the functions. Plus you also have to think about the person and what can you do to help to make sure your downline reaches the dream as well as yours. If your downline is not happy then you won't be either. If your work this business it will work.
ReplyDeleteHoly shit! Talk about brainwashed! Quit it already with the canned Amspeak bullshit!
ReplyDeleteAmway is such a great business that Anonymous from Lamar, Colorado is too embarrassed to use his/her real name. That's OK. Its embarrassing as hell to let other people know you're currently involved in Amway or used to be in Amway so nobody uses their real names. But thanks for letting me know that anyone googling for Dream Night 2012 my blog is #1! Yippee!
Anna, you are right. I am so embarrassed that I was once in Amway. Amway becomes a scar to former IBOs.
ReplyDeleteAt Anon 12/13, it is no coincident that former IBOs complain that they were lied to by their uplines. My former upline gave me a CD where the speaker was telling you how to dodge questions from prospects. We were not supposed to say we were taking them to an Amway event. IBOs used terms like "Business Meeting" "E-Commerce Seminar" and other crap. If you think this business works, start telling people that you are an IBO from Amway. You people call yourselves "business owners" but you leave of the fact that you are associated with Amway. If Amway worked, more than half the US would be doing this business and getting financial freedom.
Stop bending over for you upline and get a spine to walk in the real world.
Anonymous - thanks for stopping by!
ReplyDeleteIt is really embarrassing telling others you're associated with Amway. In real life when someone asks you where you work most people have no problem answering. In Amway its all about scamming others and its humiliating to admit that you're an Amway IBO. Our upline gave training on how to lie to others to get them to come to meetings, similar to what you said. E-commerce seminar! Like making it sound what they do is so big and important!
Lamar has been back to read but so far has spared us any more Amspeak dumb ass responses. I realize this person has been brainwashed and is probably really angry they're not making money in Amway, but perhaps they need to keep an open mind and listen to the experiences of others and realize that maybe Amway will never make them rich.
Okay, I will chalk a few minutes up as wasted time to comment on your, 'oh so grand blog' 'banana'. I have met weird people involved in Amway as well as many other areas of life. Truth is...You sound like a cynical side liner. Not that you are trying to hide it. Look at most of your blog. As far as your upline, he probably was a jerk. There are a few out there. I have listened to a few Amway big chiefs that were. Some were arrogant. Some were just blind sheep. But you can find this in almost any area of life. The facts are in front of everyone one who can do math. The business works. It takes time and effort. People, don't listen to weirdo's side liners who like to start dumpy blogs behind curtains. #1 blog...way to go 'banana'. Back to the business - Build it how you think it should be built. If your upline tells you to only build it his or her way....tell them what you really think, start a blog like a dope, or better yet, make a business decision to build it how you see fit. Show your own business plan with your own taste. Maybe your husband is bored with you 'banana' so he enjoys the excitement the meetings bring? Maybe your asshole of an upline isn't as salty and boring to listen to as you? Who knows...food for thought. My apologies for not making up a name like 'bananas' I am just not as creative and witty.
ReplyDeleteYou know if I was in Kailua I wouldn't be wasting my time surfing the Internet. I'd be doing some real surfing. Hang 10 buddy!
DeleteMe cynical?
Dumb ass ambot!
Amway business works - for less than 1% of IBOs who sign up that is. Not everyone has a devious scheming arrogant personality and is suited for selling dreams on a pyramid scheme.
You build your business the way you like and I'll build my blog the way I like. You show your business plan to whatever small crowd of people you've scammed into coming to an Amway meeting and I'll show my blog to the world and I don't have to lie to anyone to get them to come here of their own free will.
No need to apologize. I realize that not everyone can be as witty and creative as Anna Banana.
Okay, I will chalk a few minutes up as wasted time to comment on your, 'oh so grand blog' 'banana'. I have met weird people involved in Amway as well as many other areas of life. Truth is...You sound like a cynical side liner. Not that you are trying to hide it. Look at most of your blog. As far as your upline, he probably was a jerk. There are a few out there. I have listened to a few Amway big chiefs that were. Some were arrogant. Some were just blind sheep. But you can find this in almost any area of life. The facts are in front of everyone one who can do math. The business works. It takes time and effort. People, don't listen to weirdo's side liners who like to start dumpy blogs behind curtains. #1 blog...way to go 'banana'. Back to the business - Build it how you think it should be built. If your upline tells you to only build it his or her way....tell them what you really think, start a blog like a dope, or better yet, make a business decision to build it how you see fit. Show your own business plan with your own taste. Maybe your husband is bored with you 'banana' so he enjoys the excitement the meetings bring? Maybe your asshole of an upline isn't as salty and boring to listen to as you? Who knows...food for thought. My apologies for not making up a name like 'bananas' I am just not as creative and witty.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of a dumb ass ambot copies a comment he posts to what Amway would refer to as a "negative" blog and then comes back a few minutes later and pastes it into the comments section again?
DeleteWhat the fuck are they teaching at Amway these days? Go to negative Amway blogs and post stuff so you can drive them up higher on the search engines! Yee haw!
Or is there a hurricane blowing through your area right now?
Anna...I just love your blog. How you keep your wit and humor after dealing with these amway assholes, I don't know. Thanks for sharing your experiences with this dogshit cult and providing a forum for some of us to vent.
ReplyDeleteHi there Living. Glad you're loving the blog. Wit and humor is all part of keeping people entertained as well as educating them about what life inside the Amway cult is really like. Every time I'm responding to an Amway asshole that shows up here I just pretend I'm cursing out the arrogant prick who signed my husband up or our sack of shit Platinum. Two of the biggest motherfucking cocksucking bastards you'd never want to meet. And they're probably pretty tame compared to most of the Amway shitheads out there.
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