Yeah I forgot all about that phony laugh thing that all ambots seem to have going on.
Last year I had an ordeal with them.
Just now, another "IBO" tried to recruit me. He just starts talking to me, which should have raised my suspicion . . . especially since he was Asian (there is a huge Asian Amway community here). Eventually, I pieced together all the signs (fake laugh, economics major, Asian, pushy behavior) and I said out of nowhere "you work for Amway, don't you?" Bingo!
It's remarkable how similar these people all are. They're robots. They try to build rapport with you, but it's all very artificial. They're concerned only with the business. They all act the same way, say the same things, even laugh the same way . . .
We had about a twenty minute conversation where I told him about my hellish experience (which I enjoyed thoroughly even though I know he wasn't really listening) with the company, but I could tell the entire time that he was still going to try to recruit me.
He noted that I was drinking Muscle Milk and brought up Nutrilite (an Amyway mainstay). He insisted that Nutrilite was much better, but I enjoyed telling him that "no, I've had both, and Nutrilite tastes like crap" and he remarked that protein drinks aren't about taste, and I responded (accurately) that the protein content is the same. For once, he seemed to lack a pre-packaged response, which was a small moral victory. I suspect he was surprised to be met with such resistance, since most of the people they recruit (like me, last year) have no idea what they're getting into.
I had just one question for him; how is money made in this business? Mother ****er couldn't give me a straight answer. Early in the conversation, I had *****ed about being forced to buy products to sell, and he told me you don't sell anything. But then later, he told me that it isn't a pyramid scheme because products are being sold. Then he tried to explain that you make money by buying the products (the same BS argument my recruiters tried to make last year). By this point, I was laughing and mocking the idea of buying things to make money by using my Muscle Milk as a visual aid. I still don't understand how money is actually made in that business (and he couldn't explain it, either).
He kept trying to ask me why I didn't like the business (just like the people I was involved with last year). They cannot wrap their heads around the fact that sometimes people just aren't interested! The main reason I hate the company is their legendary persistence of the IBOs. Getting away from them is a nightmare.
After twenty minutes of this, I said I had to go, and he still followed me back to my dorm, and was still talking about the business the entire time.
Ugh. These people. I hate them so much. I wish they could see how sleazy they are.
The original link and responses is here. http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/general-chit-chat/107345-amway-horror-stories.html
Lying, manipulating, being phony and persistent. Isn't that the key to Amway success?
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Ha ha! that pretty much sums it up!
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ReplyDelete"Lying, manipulating, being phony and persistent. Isn't that the key to Amway success"
Yep, and I bet a smart IBO can apply that advice all the way to diamond in less than 2 to 5 years, saving themselves a hell of buying cd's, books, metings, etc. But you know those uplines have told them no to read these positive "negative" websites, so few will ever know that this is "the secret of building an amway business."
ExAmbot - I knew from the beginning that the only way to Amway success is lying, manipulating, being phony, and persistent. None of those are character traits I possess or desire to learn. Starting with the first lie about denying "the business" has anything to do with Amway!
ReplyDeleteHey Anna last week an anonymouse ambot from Asia (Singapore, Kualar Lumpur?) left the usual rigmarole amspeak. Could you forward me the link, I have a comment for her. THX!
ReplyDeleteExAmbot - that would be Anonymous from Kuala Lumpur who is all gung ho about Artistry cosmetics and left a comment on a blog I wrote last year. Geez, I can't say that too much longer and still refer to 2010! Here's the blog, you have to scroll way down for the comments but I doubt he'll be back to read, though the next ambot who comes along will enjoy. Even though you think its a her, I think its a him! http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2011/01/artistry-cosmetics-google-searches.html
ReplyDeleteLet me start out by saying THANK YOU! It is so comforting reading your blogs knowing someone out there feels the same way I do! My boyfriend (now ex) was involved in the World Wide Dream Builders and every time he'd mention it, I felt like I wanted to punch him in the face. I'm so relieved I finally got away from it all! Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteUnknown - Thanks! I'm glad you found my blog! Part of the reason I write this is because I'd read other stories on the Internet that could have been written by me so I knew I wasn't the only one out there who was going through this cult hell thanks to Amway. I knew if I wrote down my experiences I could help others going through the same thing. Knowing you're not alone.
DeleteWe were also in World Wide Dream Builders or as I refer to them World Wide Destructive Bastards. Probably the worst cult group in the Amway cult organization.
Sorry to hear that Amway destroyed your relationship. I'm sure he was disrespectful to you which is all part of the WWDB teaching - to treat people like shit who don't support their Amway business. I hope you find a better boyfriend who is not going to get brainwashed by a cult and treat you better. Good luck!
Amazing what you can find when you look up how people in Amway are manipulative and phony. I had the same problem this guy did. I was sitting in Starbucks working on a scrapbook minding my own business when this guy in a suit approaches me and starts asking me about what I'm doing. I'm busy but I don't want to be too rude so I explain a bit about the pictures and my family. Then he asks me wouldn't I like to have the freedom to be home all the time with my kids. This is after he compliments them in the photos I'm working on. I tell him I'm already a stay at home mom. So then he asks wouldn't it be nice if my husband was home all the time with us too. Just the way he was asking and paying too much interest in someone he's just met in a coffee shop I'm really suspicious. Then he says he has a business meeting that night and invites me to come. Its at 8pm and my husband and I have to come in business attire. Its so hot out, I don't think so. I politely decline because he's coming off really sleazy by this point. Fortunately for me someone else shows up who's meeting him and they huddle at a nearby table. I heard him say Amway a couple of times and now I'm really creeped out. My parents had friends in Amway and this is 20 years ago at least. They were WEIRD! And they were always trying to sell us soap and other crap. Eventually they weren't friends anymore. Out of the corner of my eye I see these 2 Amway creeps looking at me and I packed up my stuff and got out of there before they could hit me up again for the meeting. They follow me out to my car! Can you believe that? Talk about aggressive. And really creepy! I don't remember everything they said because I pulled out my cell phone and said get away from me or I'm calling 911. At that point they backed off and they called me a loser and said have fun being broke for the rest of your life. Miserable bastards.
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