Who else remembers going to Amway meetings and listening to the cult leader gush on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the next Amway major function and how it’s the go to event of the year, a once in a lifetime opportunity, a not to be missed function. Blah blah blah.
Cost of going to these functions that always seem to be WAAAAYYYYYY out of town goes into the hundreds of dollars for most ambots when they add up the ticket, transportation, hotel, and food. Sure buying the ticket might be the cheapest part at $125 but add up everything and the ambot must bring along the amford wife and it’s a lot of money to go to some fucked up Amway brainwashing conference.
An objection most ambots come up with is they can’t afford to go. Then stand back and watch the fucking assholes in their Amway upline scream and abuse them and publicly humiliate them at Amway meetings. Of course the Amway cult leader has a response to every objection that a person comes up with. The most common one I heard at Scamway meetings was to cut your costs somewhere else so you can attend the Amway function eliminate other costs that don't have to do with Amway of course. You always want to make sure you're paying as much into the Amway scam as you can so the upline can make money off you! In World Wide Dream Builders WWDB this Amway convention would be Family Reunion, Dream Night, Spring Leadership or Free Enterprise Days FED.
The most common solution the Amway cult leader gave its followers was skip paying your rent.
I mean what the fuck kind of bullshit advice is that? Well its typical “counsel with your Amway upline” bullshit.
Whoever owns the house or apartment the ambot is renting is running a business and has financial obligations probably counting on that rent to cover mortgage and other bills on that building. If some Amway asshole decides to take the advice of their upline and not pay their rent that puts the building owner into financial distress. Why should someone who isn’t in Amway lose money? Don’t pay your rent and you’ll come home to an eviction notice stuck on your door. Depends where you live you got one day, one week, maybe one month to pay your rent or get out. If your excuse to your landlord is you counseled with your Amway upline and were told to skip your rent so you could use that money to attend an Amway function that ain’t gonna fly. The landlord is going to want a tenant who is going to pay their rent.
So you’re an ambot and take the advice of the fucking assholes in your Amway upline and don’t pay your rent and get evicted you’re gonna be out on your ass. Is the asshole who gave you that shitty advice going to let you move into his house. Probably not but you never know. Some ambots like living together in cramped living situations. How many ambots can you cram into a 2 bedroom apartment? 25?
The next time that Amway cult leaders counsels you to skip your rent so you can go to an Amway function ask them what their plan is when you get evicted. If they got no answer tell them to go fuck themselves. You need a place to live. Don’t be stupid and listen to those dumb ass Amway ambots. They don’t give a shit about you or what your situation is. All they want is your money by any means they can get it.
The uplines and higher ups only care about your money, they don't care about the IBO. Thankfully I did have a sponsor that understood that my life situation is far bigger than Amway so I stopped going to those functions. I did however have one of my uplines try to convince me to sell materials to cover the ticket cost of the function. Most Amway major functions cost IBO's hundreds of dollars and since there are 4 of them, they cost IBO's $2,000-#3,000 just to hear the diamond's lame speeches.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - you got it. Your upline just wants your money and they don't care how they get it or the difficulty it's going to cost the IBO if they do something dumb like give their rent money to Amway. And yes the cost of attending an Smway function is big bucks probably cost some IBO's 2 months worth of skipping rent.
DeleteI remember how free I felt when I worked up the guts to tell the immediate upline that I quit. I also remember how much extra cash I had for just everyday spending on useless stuff that made me happy.
ReplyDeleteI never got into financial trouble in scamway because 1) I was fairly well off in the real world, 2) Even though I was deep into the brainwashing machine, my ingrained instinct to be responsible and not risk my family's well being, was more powerful than the brainwashing. 3) My wife was a lot like you, minus the foul language LOL. She had their number from day one and they knew not to fuck with her too much cause they wanted to keep the idiot (me) involved. And they knew if they pushed me too much she'd intervene and make me quit.
Funny how clear stuff is in hindsight. I remember being drilled to "invest in my business". HAHAHAHAHA. BUSINESS. They wouldn't know a business if it landed on their pointy heads. Pushing me to buy some stupid "after the plan overnight kit" shit that was basically 2 stupid tapes and a book in some flimsy binder. Price?? 83-- that's EIGHTY-THREE fucking dollars. They used to make me buy that shit like five at a time. Bunch of assholes.
Ambot Dick - I don't know that we ever had that binder. We had a lot of Amway shit literature and tapes so it's possible and I never noticed the difference. They're all expensive!
DeleteI don't know that we ever told anyone we quit. I'd stopped going to Scamway meetings and Ambot had missed 2 or 3 and one night shortly after 8 when he should have been at a meeting the sack of shit Platinum phoned and bitched him out. Probably had him on speaker phone so all the other ambots in the room could hear the scolding. Ambot just sat there and took it. I could hear the motherfucker screeching from where I was and said pass me that phone. I guess Ambot knew I was going to give the fucker an earful so he wouldn't pass the phone to me. And that was it. No more contact until that son of a bitch sent a couple of emails a few months ago trying to convince us to join Monavie which is his new home seeing as how Amway fired him last year.
I sat in a function where a WWDB diamond taught how someone could skip their mortgage payment and they would just get a late fee but not actually foreclose for about 3-4 months. Afterall, they said, the function was vital and you might miss that one thing that propels you to diamond. Bastards.
ReplyDeleteYeah I heard both skip your mortgage and skip your rent but I figure more ambots are renters rather than homeowners so that's the way I went for this post. I heard more bad financial advice from Amway upline than anywhere else. That skip the mortgage advice David Shores got from his upline didn't work out so well for him! Foreclosure!
ReplyDeleteYeah, they tried to tell me that when I signed up. Even though I told them I was active duty in the fucking Marine Corps, I lived in the Barracks, I had no rent and made like 450.00 every 2 weeks. Just wasn't enough for me to buy enough stupid shit for them each week so they'd bitch me out.
ReplyDeleteI sure don't miss the getting bitched out part! Yeah kind of hard to encourage ambots about skipping their rent/mortgage if its not one of their expenses!
DeleteThank god I've never heard this type of thing personally at any major function or through our upline. I would have laughed and left a long time ago!
ReplyDeleteWe've been taught/shown to cover everything in our existing budget/expenses so that we can keep adding to our savings (contingency funds) and not go backwards in debt. So, I can't say I've been told do this thankfully! :)
Anonymous - you should have left a long time ago anyway! You will go backwards in debt eventually if you stick it out in Amway. You can go to the library or bookstore and get a book written by a real financial planner and learn how to get out of debt and increase your savings and it'll cost you a whole lot less in financial and emotional losses than Amway.
DeleteI don't know who the fuck did this article but wtf....have u ever been in amway ?....wtf if it wouldnt be one of the best companies then nobody in the company wouldnt be generating a lot of money...don you think????
ReplyDeleteI wrote the article based on what I saw and heard at Amway meetings. You got a problem with that? Then don't come back. And sure Amway generates a lot of money. They sell overpriced products mostly to a bunch of dumb fucks who pretend they're business owners and make pennies commission. That's good news for the owners of the company coming up with a system to fuck over people who genuinely thought this might be a legitimate business opportunity. Good way for them to make money on the sweat of a bunch of brainwashed suckers.
DeleteIf the company wouldnt be one of the top 5 then how can a lot of people have a lot of results and win a lot of money.....please think before you post an article...by the way how do you know if its not one of the best.....have you ever been in amway????
ReplyDeleteOne of the top 5 companies! Is that what those lying scamming bastards are saying at Amway meetings these days! LOL!
DeleteAnd it says right at the top of this page that we were in Amway and I'm here to tell everyone what happens at Amway meetings. Are you fucking blind!
I have been in amway for 10 years and i generate more than what you all think.....im a triple diamond...you just have to have a clear dream that you want it to come true.
ReplyDeleteTheo! Is that you? The only triple diamond who's ever been to this blog! You're fucking up boy. You don't practice what you preach at Amway cult meetings - you know the old "don't say negative". LOL!
DeleteA "triple diamond" wouldn't bother coming to a site like this because they'd be far too busy trying to keep their downline who are losing TONS of money from quitting.
DeleteYou must be the same guy who talked about having dinner with an Amway BILLIONAIRE who made all their money from selling the products only. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I guess since lying comes so easy in Amway, may as well tell whoppers.
Anonymous - LOL! Just another lying scamming Amway asshole. Fake it till you make it. But only the 2nd one I've seen who pretends to be a triple diamond. Agree with you that if you're going to be a lying Amway bastards you might as well tell whoppers.
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