Wednesday, July 3, 2013

The Money Doesn't Go To Me

When we were in Amway all “serious business builders” were ordered to buy a Premier Membership to World Wide Dream Builders. Cost is $50/month.
What does an IBO get from WWDB for this awesome “business” investment?
Mostly they get a portal web page. You have your own link and this is the web address you give to any suckers to entice them to shop online at “your” store. Yeah we all know the only sucker buying from the store is the ambot who overspends trying to make up for the shortage of sales caused by lack of real customers. You can customize your web page. If you’re one of these weirdos who likes XS Energy Drinks you can promote that on your portal page. I think you can put your name and phone number that of course that would be hooked up to Communikate. Add another $35/month for that messaging program which either the asshole that sponsored you or the sack of shit Platinum will also demand you purchase.
With this monthly membership you got a discount on buying Amway books and CDs from the recommended list. Don’t get all excited its not a big discount maybe a dollar or two off. Whoooppppeeee!!!! Its cheaper to buy them used off Craigslist or Ebay or even new from Amazon except you would be a very bad little IBO trying to save money instead of buying from WWDB/Amway so your upline can profit from these tools you’ve purchased. And if the assholes in your Amway upline caught you doing that you’d be publicly humiliated at the next Amway meeting.
At a meeting we attended our Emerald was talking about buying a website. I believe he was skirting the issue of saying buying WWDB Premier membership because he did say the website cost $50/month which coincidentally is the price of the WWDB premier monthly membership the tool that is flogged at Amway meetings that includes a web page portal.
Then the Emerald said if you buy a website the money goes to Quixtar and World Wide, not him.
He is probably partially correct and the money does not go to him. After all he is only an Emerald. If you’ve read Eric Scheibeler’s book Merchants of Deception he talks about income sharing from the profits of the Amway tool scam. The Diamonds get the bulk of the profits from the tool scam. As an Emerald he received around $900 for speaking at a seminar or function but they were few and far between. I’m a little foggy on the details since its been a couple of years since I read the book but I think he got a small discount on the tools which he was able to sell to his downline at retail cost and he got the profits.
I think it also came to light both in his book and from other Emeralds who’ve written about their experiences on the Internet that they occasionally get a piece of the pie from the tool scam but that depends on the generosity of their upline Diamond. Apparently their Diamonds were greedy bastards because they weren't sharing much of the profits from the tool scam with a lowly Emerald.
Scheibeler also said in his book that at the peak of his Amway success he was earning just over $35k/year from Amway and that certainly was not the money he was expecting to earn at this level with about 1000 downline beneath him. A far cry from the $100,000 to $125,000 we were told at Amway meetings an Emerald makes. I watched a video on Youtube a couple of years ago and a former Emerald said he earned about $2000 to $3000/month from his Amway income. He also came to the realization that the money just wasn’t there and there were more honest ways to make better money than Amway and he also quit.
Around the time we quit Amway the sack of shit Platinum sent out a message that the Emerald required a fence built. He was asking who in the goup knew someone who provided those services. We know someone who owns a fencing company but Ambot laughed and said the asshole only earns an Emerald income so he can’t afford to hire someone to build a fence!
I think the Emerald managed to coerce an army of IBO slaves to come out and do the work for free for the privilege of “being around the Emerald”. To add on to his statement that the money doesn’t go to him, it doesn’t go to his downline either!
In Amway the money goes up the pyramid not down so the money doesn’t go to me either. Only the debt goes to us for busting our asses trying to make the assholes in our Amway upline rich.


  1. Let's talk about tools profit. Even a low-level Ambot can figure out that there is serious profit in the tools and rallies. That $5 motivational CD costs less than 50 cents as a blank CD. A major rally with 5,000 attendees times $50 is $250,000 in revenue. It certainly doesn't cost even a fraction of that to rent the space for a couple of days. (I don't know what these things sell for, just using numbers as an example).

    OK, so there's profit. So what? The "so what" is that anyone with downline is slamming their people to buy the tools and rally tickets, and yet, most of them don't make any of the profit. What kind of business opportunity is it where you make sales and give all the profit to the organization? I can only think of two other business models that function this way: Girl Scouts and pimps.

    It gets better. If you aspire to be one of the minuscule percentage that rises in the ranks high enough to get a cut of the tools/rally profit, there is no firm plan outlining how much you'll make, if any. It's totally up to the whims of your upline.

    Imagine if the recruiting pitch was completely honest:
    "The majority of your sales will not be actual Amway products. You will not get a commission on any of these products. You will be making these sales for years without making a dime. Eventually, if you make it to a high-enough level, we will let you make a commission on these sales, but we won't tell you how much. It might be a lot, it might be next to nothing. It's all up to the whims of your upline. If they don't like you, or if you don't buy the car they want you to buy, or if you take a vacation they don't want you to take, or if you don't buy a boatload of stuff you don't want or need so they can make their bonus level, you may make next to nothing.

    Pretty enticing. Not.

    1. Hi AnonTB - thanks for stopping by! People in Amway telling the truth. Ha ha ha!!!! But yes as you out that if the ambots were honest no one would sign up. Also wanted to mention that the various Amway cults book convention arenas where the rental is low to nothing and that's because the arena plans to make most of its money in parking and food sales. That's why Scamway holds conventions in some weird places. that's more money into the pockets of the speakers.


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