My story of what its like to be married to an Amway cult follower. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. Feel free to join in or live vicariously!
Tuesday, April 14, 2015
Avoid The Amway Scam
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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!
If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
10. Your comment got caught in the spam filter. Gets checked occasionally. We’ll get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isn’t spam.
Keep on telling it like it is Anna!
ReplyDeleteI've engaged a few of these "ambots" on youtube. (they show up to rail against clips that show Amway to be the scam that it is) They have all the talking points. One told me my problem is only interacting with those who failed in "the business". Well who else can I interact with? Since as you say even by the stats Amway itself publishes that includes just about ALL recruits! Another said since my employer makes a profit off me instead of paying me all I make for them I'm a loser. I tried to explain the infrastructure (such as a building to work in) and other expenses I don't have to worry about are worth it. AND even if [Corporation X] makes money off me after paying me well as a computer programmer - it sure beats (allegedly) taking home 100% of money made flogging consumer goods out of the Amway catalog! They don't want to hear it like all cultists I guess...
As first Anonymous says, Ambots will point out that at one's JOB their employer makes money off of them, so why rail on Amway for the upline making money? The difference is in a REAL job the employer pays employees a living wage and often with benefits. In Amway, the money flows upward with maybe a tiny $10 "bonus" check coming back per month and the commissioned salesperson LOSES money. When an Ambot buys $300 worth of unsaleable shit to stack up in closets and garages, along with hundreds of dollars for useless brainwashing seminars and DVD's, while wasting time trying to recruit other suckers who want nothing to do with Amway, then this is NOT the same thing. With a JOB one MAKES money. With Amway one LOSES money. Regardless of what the employer makes. And that's the bottom line. But can't convince the brainwashed "dreamers" who are fed a line of bullshit. They have to crash and burn on their own.
DeleteHi Anonymous. Glad you're liking the blog. I don't interact with Ambots on Youtube. Don't look at their videos either which sure cuts down the interaction! The only videos I watch on Youtube make fun of Amway so we feature them here from time to time.
DeleteWe did a post not too long ago about the responsibilities a business owner versus an employee face. People in Amway will never get it though because they run pretend businesses and therefore don't have to put in place all the infrastructure a real business owners does.
Anonymous - the other thing is an employee isn't normally paying the owner to work there. And when an employer wants an employee to take more training, normally the business pays for it, not the employee.
DeleteReverse all that if you work for Amway!
At least with a job a person is probably going to make money. Can't say the same thing about Amway. Spend $300 and make back $10 in commission. What's the total loss here. Well even higher once you add in all the tool scam purchases the assholes in the Amway upline insist you buy.
I just want to say I absolutely love your blog. I happen to know an idiot who is so fucking brainwashed it's hilarious. Thanks for supplying gossip and insight into the world of Amway because, of course, my acquaintance won't tell me anything and thinks I'm stupid.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I was starting to feel like I bad person for making fun of Amway so much. Thank you for making me feel better about myself.
P.S. What is PV?
Hi Anonymous - glad you're loving the blog! You can say that just about every Amway ambot out there is so fucking brainwashed its hilarious!
DeleteYeah stop by here anytime to make fun of people in Amway. Sometimes Amway Ambots even stop by here and leave outrageous comments to make themselves look like assholes so they come to us and make it easy.
PV is an Amway term and someone out there more into the terms could explain it better. Every Amway item gets points associatiated with it - known as PV points value. You have to buy as many Amway products as you can in a month so the total points add up to at least 100 PV in order to earn a commission from Amway. Approximately spend $2.50 to $3.00 per point. Therefore to earn the required 100 PV to be eligible for a commission the Amway ambot is spending in real money around $300 in points value.
Clear as mud right? In Amway its all about confusing the ambot by throwing around all kinds of numbers.
You don't know what PV is? That means you didn't go to TOO many of their meetings :) I still remember them comparing various products and how some of them stood out since those yielded the highest PV. Interesting, but useless at the same time.
DeleteThe Amway cult leaders usually force Ambots to buy products like Nutrilite vitamins and other shit that has the highest PV so they can get to their 100PV minimum purchase/month asap. But by the end of the month the assholes in the Amway upline are phoning again saying some upline asshole needs to meet their goals and buy more Amway shit!
DeleteLove the blog Mrs. Banana.
ReplyDeleteRobert Kiyosaki and the Amway Tool Scam share some blame in continuing to lure new victims. Kiyosaki became a best selling author thanks to Bill Gavin, only then did he suddenly fall in love with MLM. Failed as a distributor himself, but what does it matter when there is motivation to be sold?
Of course there never was a "rich dad" which says quite a bit about the uplines that promote RDPD and the distributors that never question them.
Any thoughts on Kiyosaki?
Hi Joseph - glad you're loving the blog! I don't know much about Kiyosaki other than Amway ambots that show up here and throw his name around. I know about his books, the one you sort of mentioned and something about investing in real estate. I may have partly read one of his books but nothing stands out for me.
DeleteThere are lots of financial advisors out there who've written books. Everybody's got a system right. Some things might work better for some people than another advisor's advice. Take what works for you.
Literally. Dont be a victim. Im fucking scarred for life because of this cult-like pyramid scheme. The worst part is I was trapped in a bad relationship because of it. Because not only do the good people of Amway sell shitty overpriced products they also are relationship experts! And no matter what as a strong amway couple you stay together! No matter how horrible and mentally abusive the relationship may be! Thank god I got out of that. I hate that months later it still comes up in my head. It literally makes me sick to think about. So many young people are wasting their lives on this thinking they will be billionaires. Sad.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - we all feel your pain. The emotional and financial devastation the Amway cult leaves is horrendous. Yup the old "counselling with upline" bullshit even though none of those bastards has gone to the type of schooling to make them a qualified therapist or similar trade. You had the opposite approach than the assholes in our upline took with us. They wanted to destroy our relationship. The fuckers even prayed that I would find another man and leave Ambot. That's how fucking sick they are. If you're gonna pray, pray for stuff like world peace and end to terrorism, not for me to go next-husband hunting! So that tells me your significant other was a strong Amway cult member and that's why they wanted to keep you together even though you knew Amway was a waste of time, money, and brain cells and you wanted out.
DeleteThe only billionaire that I know of from Amway is one of the owners and family. The other owner apparently did have as good financial advisors! Doesn't mean they're not rich thanks to scamming victims over the past 50 years. Its just the ambots that show up here bragging about Amway billionaires and there's only the one we know of according to Forbes. The other Amway billionaires are just part of the Amway lies.
The first I ever heard of him was from an Ambot trying to pitch me at the Barnes and Noble. You might find his incestuous relationship to Amway interesting. A true to life "fake it til you make" tale, selling the hope, not the soap.
ReplyDeleteGood reviews of Kiyosaki's work of fiction.
http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html
http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/robert-kiyosaki-and-multi-level-marketing-exposed/
Hi Joseph. Yup the lifestyles of the poor broke losers in Amway is fake it till you make it. Nothing like a sick incestuous relationship with ScAmway.
DeleteThis reminds me of the classic song Toc Mai Soi Van Soi Dai (long uneven hair) as Thai Thanh sings of lost love only to be recaptured in a thousand year dream.
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