Thursday, October 8, 2015

Amway Diet – Trim, Body Key, Healthpointe…..

Liz says: I got talked into trying Amway's Healthpointe 2.0 program for weightloss. Stupid, stupid, stupid! They get you to buy the program ("You can't put a price on your health!") for about $80AU but I didn't realise how much it was really going to cost me until I went shopping for the basic recommended stuff and walked out of the Amway Business Centre with an extra $600 charge to my credit card. And that was just for 4 weeks supply (of a 6-8 week program), not including the meat, fruit, veggies and other groceries for the meals that you won't replace with a protein bar or protein drink. (Oh but I racked up a lot of PV's for it, much to the delight of my upline. BTW I only got like a $24 cheque back for all that, yay!)

As for the program itself, I was totally committed to making it work because it was so damned expensive! I could have paid a whole year's gym membership for that money. Unfortunately, despite all my determination (and all that money) I gained 5kg then lost 4kg of it over the 2 months on the program. I consider it a big fail... but lesson learnt.

We’ve touched on Amway’s diet plan a few times in the past, mostly to poke fun at the speakers on the stage who are walking advertisements Trim does not work so I thought I’d take a closer look at it. Amway has recently changed the name to Body Key by Nutrilite. So call it any name you want. Amway’s diet/weight loss program seems to have the same success rate that Amway IBO’s who actually make money do – less than 1% success rate.

Ambot’s sponsor Captain Fuck Up claimed to be on Trim and was losing weight so Ambot decided to try it. Or more accurately, buy it but not try it. I found this Amway Trim Advantage binder way up high in the cupboard behind where I store spare cookie tins. I doubt Ambot ever opened it. It has several sections in there - Meal Plans, Recipes, Exercises. At the back is a CD. Like we need another fucking Amway CD! Its called the Trim Advantage Body System. Never opened. Can we get a refund? Unlikely. Into the garbage it goes, the best place for Amway shit unless its being flushed down the toilet but this was too big.

There’s an introduction letter at the front of the binder’s contents and then a commitment to optimal health “contract” that the IBO is supposed to sign. And here I say IBO because its unlikely that a person who was not an IBO would spend the hundreds of dollars needed to get going on the Trim Advantage diet plan. Cheaper to sign up with just about any other diet plan or gym and get personal support. What do you do with the contract after you sign it. Give it to your upline Platinum so he can mock you in board plan meetings if you’re not losing weight?

Right behind the commitment contract is a page titled “Plan Ahead” with the Amway products you need to stock up on. Nutrilite Vitamins:

CLA 500 - $80 (prices rounded to nearest dollar, prices have probably increased)

ProDigest  - I can’t find it on Amway’s web site so I don’t know if the name changed or if the product was discontinued - last known cost $60.

Chromemate - As above, can’t find it - last known cost $45

Digestive Enzyme Complex - $50

Below that a paragraph that says “Keep Your Commitment - Stock Up on Favorites”:

Trim advantage Protein Bars

Chocolate Delight - $25

Mixed Berry Smoothie - $20

Nutrilite Protein Powder - $30

I looked on Amway’s website to find this binder thing that we have in the house and the big thing I discovered was that Amway has changed the name from Trim. The diet plan is now called Nutrilite Weight Management Program. I found their Better Balancer Program kit which I believe may be similar to what Ambot purchased a few years ago. It costs $250. I seem to recall Ambot paid over $200 for the system and in addition to this binder full of “important” information it included a box of food bars and meal replacement powdered drink.

So just to get started buying all of the above plus that binder and CD’s – over $500. Wow!

Now lets check out the Amway meal plan in the binder. The first few pages talk about dieting stuff that you can find for free in the library or on the Internet such as drink water, serve meals on smaller plates, choose low fat products when grocery shopping, etc.

Let’s look at Day 1 meal plan:

Breakfast: Trim Body System Berry Vanilla Shake. I won’t give the whole recipe but the Amway product needed to make it is Nutrilite Protein Powder ($30) which may have already been purchased if you followed the above rules and stocked up.

Snack: 1 bag Trim Advantage Crunch Zone Snack Chips. Can’t find it on their web page but if I recall correctly it came in a box and had 2 different flavors and cost around $60 and this was for like 10 bags of chips in each flavor. At this snack time you also get a cup of vegetable juice. Horror of horrors. You need to go to the grocery store for that one because they’re not slinging an Amway product.

Lunch: Apple and cheddar salad. There’s a recipe. No Amway products. Sucks to have to go to the grocery store again!

Snack - Trim Advantage Meal Replacement Bar - $25 for a box.

Dinner - Beef Stir Fry - there’s a recipe, no Amway products. 2/3 cup Uncle Ben’s instant whole grain brown rice,  1 cup skim milk.

That’s over $100 of Amway products to have on hand just for Day 1. I won’t bore you with the rest of the week. Does anyone wonder if Uncle Ben is getting a kick back from Uncle Dickie?

Does anyone else see a problem here besides the cost? What about at least 5 fruits and vegetables a day? Let’s throw that out the window, though there is about 3 servings in their recipes for lunch and dinner. Oh wait. What the hell do you need to eat fruit and vegetables for? Amway has a vitamin for that. $40.

Obviously this is a ploy by Amway to sell more overpriced products to IBO’s who feel they need to lose weight.

Amway is hardly the only company out there to flog a diet system using their products.

There are lots of diet programs out there ranging from fees to use the program to purchasing the program’s meals and supplements. It looks like Amway’s plan is the most expensive for what you get. It offers no support, no individual counselling (ha ha counsel with upline!), no discussion forums, nothing. Just pay your money, buy the overpriced shit, and hope for the best.

Yup just another scam diet program run by scammers.

Lesson learned here? The only thing you’ll lose on the Amway diet plan is your  money.


  1. Hard to believe anyone would buy this fake dietary plan. But Amway "true believers" will shell out any sum of money for something if it has been blessed by those thieves in Ada, Michigan.

    And yes -- those fat-assed, jowly diamonds at Amway meetings are hardly a good advertisement for Amway's nutritional regimen. But maybe they're too busy spreading the word about Scamway to diet properly..

    1. LOL! Its kind of like that diet plan with a well known actress on TV commercials who loses weight & packs on the pounds again. Not every plan works for everyone but the Amway plan in more ways than one not just talking diet works for barely anyone.

  2. This isn't directly related to your post, but it is about Amway, and boy does Amway really piss me off - not their stupid pyramid scheme system, I was always to smart to fall for that, but the fact that they were authorized a $1.6 million GRANT (not a tax credit, a straight up grant, all in the name of job creation and I can't imagine jobs associated with packing boxes of their crap in a warehouse pay that well and offer much for long-term development) and failed to meet the goal of creating 60 new jobs.

    An excerpt from the article:

    "Meanwhile, the down year also contributed to Amway missing its job-creation milestones spelled out in the $1.6 million performance-based grant it was awarded through the Michigan Business Development Program. The grant was intended to support the conversion of the company’s Spaulding Avenue warehouse into a nutritional products manufacturing facility. When it was announced in May 2012, the $81 million project was expected to create 180 new jobs. The company needed to hire 60 people by April 30, 2014 to make its first milestone for the grant, but it had only hired 44 as of Jan. 27 of this year after an investment of $75.7 million."

    Fortunately, Amway hasn't actually gotten any of the grant money yet and probably won't until the goal is met. But why does a billion dollar company need free government money at all for "creating jobs" that would probably have been created anyway, and they are lousy jobs at that?

    Here's a link to the article if you want to read it all:,-currency-pressures-contribute-to-

    1. Hi Charlie. Sounds like another scam that Amway is running. Good thing they didn't get the grant money yet. And as you said why do they need a grant anyway the way we have Ambots showing up here and bragging about all the billions of dollars Amway makes every year. Amway has really low qualifications for hiring people. Nasty bastards that don't give a shit apply to Amway. Also the inability to string a sentence together is one of their job qualifications so its not too hard for anyone to get a job there. Its a really shitty company to work for judging by complaints of staff and former staff who've left comments about low pay and no benefits and stuck up supervisors. I can see why long term employee retention is tough for Scamway. And how embarrassing it is to admit to others that you're working there. Yeah that grant application just looks like another way Amway is scamming money. I wonder if they made a rush to hire 16 more people by the deadline.

  3. Amway gets these lucrative government grants because it doles out cash contributions to many persons in the government and in government bureaucracies. It bribes officials and functionaries to approve whatever the Amway bigshots want.

    I guess that's what Amway apologists mean by "free enterprise" -- the ability to suck taxpayer money from the govrenment, and then claim that it was all a result of your business acumen.


    1. Anonymous - pretty much everyone involved in illegal activities is bribing authorites. And you're right. Scamway is legalized theft. And a lot more bad things!


    1. Hi Anonymous - thanks for the link. Everyone should read it. The Amway scam in a nutshell! LOL!


    1. Thanks again for the link Anonymous! LOL!


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