Thursday, December 3, 2015

Amway Commissioned Sales Employees Versus REAL Business Owners



An ambot named Frank stopped off to leave a long winded comment to one of my posts. Too long to reprint here. Be a blog and a half itself! But I’ll give Frank props for using his real name. Most ambots past and present are too humiliated to admit being affiliated with Amway.

To start off with Frank sets off all the blog’s female readers into fits of giggles by saying he is 20 years old going on 21 with the mind of a 28/29 year old. All women know that men tend to be under developed emotionally and get to age 12 to 15 years old and they hold on for decades! Give them till their 60’s before they “might” get to the mind set of someone in their 20’s! Maybe not even then!

Like the typical 20/21 year old who leaves comments here they’re all know it alls at that age. Big important business owner and the rest of us are doomed to be lazy losers who quit Amway because we didn’t try hard enough and aren’t hard workers and blah blah blah typical Amspeak bullshit that we’ve heard a million times before from the assholes in our Amway upline.

I’ve said it tons of times. Just because someone puts on a business suit, is glued to their cell phone, and marches off to 8pm meetings doesn’t make them a real business owner.

Real business owners follow procedures in starting up/running their business. I’m going to put some of them here in no particular order and this not a complete list. Just off the top of my head right now.

1.     research – is this a viable business opportunity that will earn them money or is the market already saturated or is there no customer interest in this type of product or service
2.     purchase or lease a place to operate the business
3.     choose and register a business name
4.     get a license from the city to operate the business
5.     get a lawyer to help with incorporation, etc if needed
6.     get an accountant to help set up the business accounts, file taxes, etc
7.     hire other professionals as needed for business set up or ongoing basis
8.     hire employees
9.     get a tax number
10.  get insurance to cover business, employees, and customers
11.  create a business plan
12.  have a bank account under the business name
13.  purchase inventory
14.  decide on prices for the products or services
15.  purchase equipment needed to operate business
16.  decide on hours of operation

These are some of the steps taken by real business owners and there is a cost to starting, owning, operating  a business. Varies depending on the business and how much work/capital the owner can do themselves.

People who are employees whether paid hourly, salary, or commissioned salespeople do not normally have to take any of the above steps.

Those are some of the differences between a real grown up business owner and a child playing a make belief game of owning “your own Amway business”.

Get it through your brainwashed minds you fucking Amway Ambots – if your last name ain’t VanAndel or De Vos then you don’t own a fucking Amway business!!!!!

And some of those children show up on my blog and accuse us of being lazy and not owning our own business, etc etc. Yeah right someone who is lazy and doesn’t own their own business just takes those above steps and expenses for no particular reason other than they’re thrill seekers maybe???!!!

You fucking ambots want to insult us because we don’t own our own businesses have probably never taken any of the above steps to get their business legally operating. Quit repeating what the fucking assholes in your Amway upline are telling you and get out into the real world and learn what its really like to own a business and quit playing make believe games.

You ambots are nothing but a bunch of low paid commissioned salespeople and you have to pay money to an organization like WWDB or LTD for the privilege of belonging to a cult.

You’re not playing on the same level as a real business owner. You’re just playing a game that the assholes in your Amway upline make the rules on.



43 comments:

  1. Anna, please do me a favor and put in a plug for my business offer to the Ambots out there: I'll sell them each a dollar bill for two dollars and if they can get 5 people each to do the same thing and send the money to me I will sell them dollar bills for only a buck seventy-five. And if each of THEM does the same I will only charge a buck fifty for each dollar I sell them. Kind of like Amway but without the shitty Amway product. No need for them to poison themselves with Amway shit from their own "store". It's a totally better deal for them. Thanks,
    Ray
    P.S. Tell them also that for ten bucks a pop I will sell them fifty cent CDs telling them how they can make me even more money and what the heck, I will also sell them hotel rooms to come lay their sleeping bags down on the floor in if they want to come listen to me say blah blah blah and then give me their money in person. Thanx again.

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    1. LOL Ray. You know I nearly made a response to Microsoft Guy on that other post where he got the comments going comparing Amway to chain letters. You know you used to get a letter that had the names and addresses of 5 people and you sent $1 to the top person on the list then retyped the letter knocking off the person you sent a dollar to and adding your name to the bottom of the list and mailed it out to 20 people and if you broke the chain all kinds of bad luck was headed your way. But if things went as planned then hundred of dollar bills would come rolling in. Then there's a similar chain letter about bad and good luck. No people to send money to, just send the letter to 20 people to get good luck and stop the bad luck coming your way. Then there's the booze chain letter that pops up every year at Christmas. You have a list of 5 people names & phone numbers and you call the first person on the list and say what kind of bottle do you want and then deliver it to them. Then retype the letter leaving off the guy you just bought a bottle for and adding your name to the bottom of the list and giving that letter to 2 people and very soon 25 bottles of booze would be coming your way. And not to laugh but a friend of mine participated and I was with her when she got 2 calls asking what she wanted and she got about 4 or 5 bottles. Just like pyramid scam MLM cults the chain is always going to break or the pyramid is going to crumble away. People like me who say fuck it and throw the letter in the garbage or otherwise not interested or eventually oversaturation hits. But good luck with that!

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  2. A lot of the entire Amway hustle is about pretending. Even if you're losing money every month, you have to pretend to your down-line that you are affluent. ("Fake it till you make it!")

    This comes from the "think positive" insanity that governs an ambot's entire life. You are simply not allowed to have the slightest non-positive thought about anything. You have to be a hyped-up, rah-rah enthusiast every single second of the day.

    To accomplish this, you have to do a helluva lot of pretending!

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    1. How right you are! Anytime I ask my girlfriend how her "business" is doing, she always leaves it at some vague answer like, "It's doing great!" or "Selling like hotcakes!". Ask any business owner, they'll give you something a BIT more specific like, "Oh we just broke-even, and our profits just reached over $X. I'm hoping to do X with that money." Don't get me wrong, I'm all for thinking positive, but there's a huge difference between thinking positive and just ignoring the fact that you're failing. Rule #1 of any REAL entrepreneur, "If you're gonna fail, fail fast." Analyze performance, and make decisions accordingly, if things are looking like they're going downhill, change your plan drastically or stop completely. Stupid Ambots keep going until they're swimming in loads of debt. Sad...

      Twiggy.

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    2. Anonymous - in Amway its all about fake it till you make it. In the real business world you got to bust ass finding and retaining customers and showing some kind of profit. You can't keep paying out expenses and payroll and not at least break even for very long before closing shop. Amway ambots have a lot lower overhead and can play games of pretending to be a big shot business owner as long as their back account and credit cards hold out.

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    3. Twiggy - your girlfriend has the act down. Everyone in Amway always claims "business is going great" when its actually going the shits. I don't remember hearing anyone in our group bragging about selling like hotcakes because Amway products just don't do that! LOL! They'd be bragging about their % level of BV.

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  3. Hey Anna! Great post! Yes, Ambots don't know the difference between real business and this thing they call a "business". I don't understand how any real business-minded people would not analyze their profits/losses going into ANY venture, Amway or not. They get lured by the stupid "dream" of financial freedom and ignore everything else. When I attended their business plan showing one night, I read the fine text that was IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION that said "Last year, 0.0315% reached the diamond level". (I'm gonna try to get my hand on that powerpoint). If this praised "Diamond" level is what defines success in the Amway business, you have 0.0315%. NOT EVEN A 1% CHANCE OF REACHING IT. Who in their right mind doesn't look at that number and freak out. Also, that number doesn't account for all the "Diamonds" who lose their status due to any of the downline leaving. About 8 out of 10 businesses fail in their first year, meaning if I wanted to go start a business, I got a 20% chance of success. Let's way the odds: 0.0315% vs 20%. You're an idiot to think you can go big with 0.0315% of a chance of success. I'm sure you Ambots learned rounding up/down in elementary right? Round 0.0315% up/down for me. That's pretty much 0%. Good luck Ambots!

    Regards,
    Twiggy

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    1. Big grammatical typo, I swear I'm not an idiot: WEIGH, not WAY, big fail there haha.

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    2. Hi Twiggy - first off no one really notices typos except when an ambot shows up with a typo filled rant that is hard to figure out the gibberish on other than the usual you're a bitch who didn't try hard enough and you're a loser and a quitter. But not typed as I just did where it can be understood. LOL!

      Thanks for letting us know what the current # is in the small print. It was like .000006457% when we were in or whatever. Anyway you look at it its a fraction of 1%. There's a post floating around here somewhere that we'll be rerunning next year that says there's a greater chance of falling off a cruise ship (a rare occurence) than it is of making Diamond. Have you not tried to pound that small print in your girlfriend's brainwashed mind? Maybe you can give her a book for Christmas that gives suggestions on starting up a home based business. A real business. One that has better odds than 99% chance of failure. Maybe buy her a truck and some buckets and a shovel and she can get started on dog shit removal business. Anything will make more money than Amway.

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    3. Haha, I would shove this stat in her face, but I'm expecting some Scambot answer of, "You're so negative, why do you think like that?" I'm actually building a LEGITIMATE business at the moment (trying to make a mobile app company) and hope that this serves as a model for what a REAL business is like. I will probably try to casually tell her about this statistic. Like I told you, I plan to ask her if she can send me that powerpoint cause I just wanted to re-cap (acting interested) the info. Then, I plan to never mention it again until she asks me if I'm still interested. I'll probably just casualls say something along the lines of "Oh, that powerpoint you sent me said only 0.0315% of all IBO's make Diamond, so I decided to commit to the business I'm building instead cause 4/5 businesses might fail, but a 20% chance is more optimistic." I feel like if you ever attack Ambots directly, they recoil and attack back, versus if you casually answer like this, this kinda discourages them without directly attacking them or Amway. I feel like the only way to beat Ambots is through subtle discouragement to help them realize faster.

      Twiggy.

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    4. Twiggy - you have to remember an ambot has a canned Amspeak response for just about everything. Ambots call them arguments and the occasional Ambot shows up here and uses the word argument in their comment. I respond I'm not arguing nothing. Just reporting what I saw when I was stuck in the room. How is that arguing when you make fun of something the sack of shit Platinum said. So just be prepared for the canned Amspeak bullshit you'll get quoted back at you.

      A mobile app sounds good. If I had any ideas and the know how I'd do one too! Sounds like the bandwagon to be jumping on these days. Not an MLM scam.

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  4. A real businessman is quiet, self-controlled, restrained, and thoughtful.

    A fake businessman (like somebody in the Amway fraud) is loud, vulgar, posturing, and whacked-out.

    It's the difference between a mature adult and an infantile freak.

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    1. Anonymous - some businessmen and women are rather loud and flamboyant. Trump comes to mind. LOL!

      But yes dead on description of Amway ambots vulgar and whacked out. Infantile freak. Good one!

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  5. When my cousin was snared by Amway, he was about 21 or 22 -- the prime age for doing stupid things. If this Frank guy is only 20, we have to expect that he's not very experienced or knowledgeable.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Sorry to hear about your cousin. Not only is early 20's prime age for doing stupid things, its prime age to be prospected into the Amway cult. Mostly because these kids have never heard of Scamway and the cult leader warns them not to talk to their parents or grandparents and mention the A word because the cult leader knows older people have heard of Amway maybe even scammed by Amway at some time. That's why they also warn potential recruits to research on the Internet because they'll find comments by negative losers and quitters. Amway is a blame the victim scam.

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    2. Personally, I don't think age has anything to do with it. I'm 21 and I refrain from stupid things (hated it when I was young, but the discipline from my parents are priceless to me now). I think it's really one's lack of willingness to do the research instead of impulsively deciding to do things. When I approached my girlfriend with the research from Google, you know what she said? "Well, search 'negative Mother Teresa' and you'll get bad reviews. Search 'negative USA', and see what you get." ...... How the actual fuck do you compare business to Mother Teresa???!?! Now that I'm undercover and listened to one of their brainwashing streams by Greg Duncan (Scamway Celeb), he says this exact same thing.

      Twiggy.

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    3. Twiggy - Amway cult leaders have been using the Mother Teresa thing for many years. Heard it many times from our sack of shit Platinum who as usual was lying because Amway had more negative hits than she did. And who the fuck says bad stuff about a nun who devoted her life to helping the poor. That's how fucked up Amway assholes are. Ever since the Internet came into existence and people started posting their stories of financial and emotional distress thanks to Amway. The problem with that and you're in that age group, people in their 20's don't know who the hell the cult leader is talking about. I grew up frequently seeing her on the news. There's been no one else like her since she passed. So Ambots have had no other saintly figure to attack so they speak ill of the dead. How is that being a Christian which is what Ambots proclaim themselves to be, worshippers of the Great Amway God. Miserable bastards that they are.

      I just can't believe Amway assholes are still picking on a nun whose been dead 20 years. Scammers!

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    4. Most of the people aged between 20's to 30's are unemployed (either looking for a job or having a hard time looking for a job), which is one of the reasons why they are vulnerable to deception when it comes to get rick quick methods.

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    5. Anonymous - Amway is an equal opportunity life destroyer. Young people are good targets because they haven't heard of Amway before but evil ambots will prey on anyone who is unemployed, new immigrants, in debt, in other bad life situations. That's how those sick bastards work.

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    6. I was in my early 20s when I signed up. Had 5000 saved up. Stopped saving because I went gung ho. Hitting 100 personal use pv, hitting functions, buying books and cds, boards and easels, plans, cards, premier, kate, samples. I was going to retire by 30!

      Long story short, I missed out on my youth to party, I went on hard times and spent my savings to maintain my vitamin ditto, I was tired, I constantly felt defeated.

      My life was going absolutely awesome when I went in. Then I got consumed by the "dream" the "business" "freedom." It didn't destroy me but my blind obsession set me the fuck back. I have my finances back on track, but I lost my fucking youth

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    7. Hi Anonymous Guy. That's what Amway does to people. Robs them in so many ways. At least you were young enough to get yourself back on track financially. There are sad stories online where seniors depleted their life savings on Scamway with the fake promises about how it would supplement their retirement and now they're back looking for work just to make money to live and pay off the Amway debt. There are so many other sad stories of bankruptcy, foreclosure, and divorce. Destroyed lives. Look at the bright side. Now that Amway is no longer sucking you dry you can relive your youth in your retirement years.

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    8. They preach on "dreams", "business" and "freedom" but what they do is a total contradiction.

      Dreams? - Unfulfilled and broken dreams.

      Business? - Nah! No business advice is given. Just buy tools, cd and function tickets and even go into debt, write off taxes and dangerous advice.

      Freedom? What is freedom when you have to submit to the demands of upline?

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    9. Anonymous - Amway cult leaders preach about dreams and freedom and bazillions of dollars in residual income rolling in every month forever and ever after the ambot has been inside the cult for 2 to 5 years.

      Yup broken dreams. No business advice ever given. The closest I hear to business advice was when our Emerald was bullshitting the followers about the Amway business license and someone pressed the shithead was this the same as getting a business license to operate in the city. To give the shithead credit he did say the ambot would have to check with the city's licensing dept. But that kind of business advice is more or less common sense for anyone starting up any type of business as part of doing research ahead of time. It wasn't that glowing nugget of wisdom our sack of shit Platinum taunted the cult followers with. You know that one golden nugget of wisdom would be given out so we better not miss the Scamway meeting.

      There is no freedom inside Amway the Cult of Greed where all ambots pledge obedience and devotion to the cult leaders.

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  6. These Amway hucksters have absolutely no grasp of simple logic.

    When they say "You can find negative statements about Mother Teresa," their implied conclusion is as follows: "Just because there are negative statements about something, it doesn't mean that the statements are believable."

    If these idiots had even half a brain, they'd realize you could re-cast that sentence in the following way: "Just because there are negative statements about Adolf Hitler, it doesn't mean that the statements are believable." Would the ambots sign on to that?

    The issue is not whether negative statements about someone or something exist or not. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THE NEGATIVE STATEMENTS ARE TRUE OR FALSE. And this is what Amway fanatics are desperate to deflect and avoid: any discussion of the actual facts about the Amway fraud. Deflect, deny, distort, divert... it's part of the DNA of Amway.

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    1. I thought the same thing when I would see that argument from them. Ambots have an "answer" to anything one says about Amway, but those answers are usually apples to oranges arguments or just plain false.

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    2. Anonymous - the reason Amway hucksters have no grasp of logic is because they've been brainwashed to believe only things told to them by their cult leaders. Anyone else who has an opposing point of view Amway related or not an Ambot will never believe them.

      And 2nd Anonymous - yes Ambots have an answer to everything. Except - ta da - when they're prospecting a potential recruit and ask what their dream is. If its starring and producing gay porno flicks Ambot prudes have no answer. I found the secret and I pass it on.

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  7. Amway (like the Church of Scientology, another evil cult) is scared shitless by the Internet.

    You can't keep a cult going for very long when the truth about it keeps being posted on-line, for the entire world to see.

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    1. Anonymous - sure, just like any cult. Word can get out way faster now that we have the Internet and people can share their horror stories. And one can only hope that Amway and other cults come to an end thanks to the Internet.

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  8. To our friend who left a comment yesterday. Sorry to hear what Amway has done to your life. Unfortunately that's how the Amway cult works, destroying people's lives financially and emotionally. Destroying every little bit they can so the cult can have the Ambot all to themselves without any interfering (their opinion) outside sources.

    Yes starting a blog sounds like a real good idea and its part of the healing process too. You can share your pain with others who are going through the same thing. And you have all kinds of talents to come up with an entertaining blog. I'd love to see animations and videos making fun of Amway. There's a few on Youtube that we link here sometimes but it would be great to see a whole lot more.

    As for a blog you have to figure out a way to entertain as well as educate about the horrors of Amway. For us our brand is cursing out the fucking assholes in Amway and making fun of everything Amway. And the added benefit it pisses off Ambots all to hell when they show up here that anyone would disrespect these "fine" LOL people in Amway. Too many people start up blogs but get tired of them soon. On the links on the right side there are blogs that aren't updated for 2 years or more. Either that or the Blogger gadget isn't working. LOL. Many start up a blog but get tired of it. Hell even one of the bananas on this blog who keeps our blog up and running and who is really outspoken and has a lot to share about Amway and started a blog got tired after a couple of pages. Amway was too boring to write about was the reason.

    Give us a link and we'll link to you on the blog list at the top right of this page. Maybe bump the last guy! LOL! Can't wait to see what you come up with.

    You wouldn't be the only blog out there showing how Amway or other MLMs are a scam so that's why you have to do something different to draw in readers. I think videos and graphics and music will be a good plan. Like the guy who did the Secret Scamway Man we posted a couple of weeks ago.

    Good luck!

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    1. Hey there Anna!

      As unfortunate as it may have been that she left me, I know this wasn't a decision made by the girl I liked, but the hardcore Ambot she turned into. Although this was a personal decision, this is more between Amway and I than her. As much as her Ambot-like behavior makes me cringe, she's the victim in all this, I just got caught in the crossfire. Now, this fight is personal. I'll definitely share my website with you. I'm currently developing it, and it should be ready for launch by the New Year. I'll stick around and read any future posts.

      Twiggy

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    2. When they get brainwashed by the Amway cult its like a whole different ugly nasty personality comes out. She "counsels with upline" all the time doesn't she? Even though none of those bastards has any degrees in therapy just because they're card carrying Amway assholes they're now automatic experts in everything. The Amway cult leader is constantly bitching at her about her lack of success in Amway and blaming everything in her life for her failure. Amway is a blame the victim scam, no matter that anything with over 99% failure rate is a system designed for failure. And so she's brainwashed to believe you're responsible for her lack of success at selling overpriced shitty Amway products. Always need someone to blame when you're in Scamway.

      You know what would be really fun if you can do it? This is based on a game someone created called throw a shoe at Bush. Remember a few years ago he was at a press conference in Iraq and one of the reporters took off his shoes and threw them at him and Bush ducked. http://www.sockandawe.com/ If you could create something based on Amway it would be real popular with people who want to take out their aggressions against this evil cult. You'd have to choose a well known person in Amway such as an owner or Diamond. As much as you'd want to feature a sack of shit Platinum lowly Amway employees don't want to be embarrassed by their association, you can't choose someone who's not well known in Amway on their website or magazine. So you could have a slow moving Ambot ducking while people throw Amway products at him. That would be entertaining! Like find that photo from the Youtube video secret Amway man where the owner has this shit eating grin on his face so you just want to throw Amway products at him. Give it some thought. In the meantime go throw a few shoes at Bush! LOL!

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    3. I also experiences this insistence that me and my ex only counsel with up-line...here I've been involved with my church for 10 years, counsels and mentored many and have so much support but because I'm not financially free and the people I counsel with aren't they have no credability....this is so obviously brain washing as our up line had no right to be counselling us in many things....what qualifies them...reading some personnel development books? It's really sad that anyone with this "cult" can't see that it's not healthy to only have one source of counsel....especially one that only had a financial interest in you( they actual state that as a plus that they are interested in your financial future and not your emotional future....how. An people be so blinded by greed!)

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    4. Yes, she did mention that she gets "life advice" from her upline. I have even met her upline the night she tried to recruit me, and they all seemed like really friendly people, and I got along with them pretty quick. Of course, all that is to just lure me into this stupid shit. She never told me anything about her uplines bitching at her, but it must have happened.

      Yes! I do remember that, and have actually played around with that game before, hilarious stuff. Haha, that would be really awesome, but unfortunately, I'm not a video game programmer. The website I plan to make is mostly to mathematically and logically hate on MLM's like Amway using infographics, videos, and a bunch of research. Who knows, maybe when I have some time, I'll go find one of these Ambots and go secretly undercover, hahaha.

      Twiggy

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    5. Anonymous - yes there are more experienced people that you can counsel with than Amway assholes in your upline. We're supposed to "counsel" with these bastards in their 20's who've never owned a real business, never owned a house, don't have investments or savings. What the fuck!!!!

      We didn't get where we are without taking advice from competent experienced people. And Ambots want us to go ass backwards and sell our house and become renters and use the proceeds from the sale to buy Amway products. I mean what the fuck!!!! How is getting rid of your house, your security and buying overpriced shitty Amway products good financial advice. Fuck it still pisses me off years later how those Amway bastards leaned into Ambot trying to get him to convince me to sell the house. But me being the stubborn negative dreamstealing unchristian wife that I am refused to let the Amway cult leaders steal our house.

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    6. Twiggy - of course she gets "life advice" from the assholes in her Amway upline. All bad because all it amounts to is stealing her money to tithe the Great Amway God.

      The reason Ambots are so friendly is called love bombing. A common cult tactic. Bunch of fakes only want to be your friend as long as they can make money off you. Once you leave Scamway the other cult followers are forbidden to have anything to do with you.

      And yes her sack of shit Platinum would have been bitching her out for her lack of success in Amway. Happens at every Amway meeting. At least one person is singled out be berated and punished by the cult leader.

      Aw too bad you can't build a vidoe game to throw shitty overpriced products at Ambots! LOL! I'm sure whatever you can come up with will be good. Its not difficult to go undercover at Amway meetings. All ambots want to bring in hot prospect. Have you looked at the Dateline videos on Scamway where they go in with undercover cameras? Check out the links on the right side of the page. Its a 2 parter.

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    7. One of the most important markers of financial security in America today is whether or not you own your own home. It's absolutely crucial, like a lifejacket on a sinking ship. Anna, thank God you put your foot down and saved your husband from a major life-changing mistake.

      For Amway scum to advise persons who are homeowners to sell their house and invest in Amway products is nothing short of criminal! It's the same as telling someone to cross a busy street without checking the WALK-DON'T WALK signs.

      I used to end my posts by writing AMWAY IS LEGALIZED THEFT. Now I feel compelled to write this: AMWAY IS COMPOSED OF AND RUN BY IRRESPONSIBLE, EVIL SOCIOPATHS.

      It also clear that Amway creeps are deeply envious and resentful of anyone who isn't in the same financially strapped boat that they are in. So they bleat "Sell your house! Empty your savings account! Max out your credit cards Don't you have faith in this wonderful business opportunity!"

      This isn't just greedy. It's fucking DEMONIC.

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    8. Anonymous - calling people in Amway sociopaths is too kind. They're WORSE than that. Demonic is on the right page.

      I could see my husband was being swayed by the shitty financial advice from the assholes in the Amway upline but unfortunately my name is joint on everything so he can't sell anything unless I agree and sign off. I preferred to tell Amway to fuck off and refused to do it and shit was he ever mad at me. Yeah I'm really going to sell our security just because some fucking jealous Amway asshole wants us to be renters instead of home owners.

      Not that I'm insulting renters here. Just saying we worked hard for what we have and that would be a step backwards in my opinion.

      Plus I just liked telling people in Amway to fuck off.

      It's even sadder when you read stories online of seniors who sold their house to buy into the Amway dream and lost all their savings. They have no hope in hell of bouncing back at that age.

      As you said Amway Ambots are worse than greedy, they're demonic.

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    9. People will eventually snap out once they realize they are burning their last monetary fuel.

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    10. Anonymous - for some people it means hitting rock bottom. Amway has succeeded in destroying this person's life. Fortunately most people figure out after a few months that they've been burned financially and emotionally and get out and deprogram themselves from the Amway cult's brainwashing.

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  9. Businesses, if operated well, have value to sell to another business owner. I don't think Amway IBO can sell their business account to another person.

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    1. Anonymous - that's right for many businesses especially those operating from a specific location with a product or service. Some business owners are one person show entrepreneurs like a guy I know who's the middleman for selling heavy equipment. He works out of his house and does consulting as well as getting a cut of sales he arranges. I'm not sure he could sell that kind of business because he's the key guy. Another friend runs a sewing business out of her house and again its not the type of business that can be sold, though her machines could be. As for Amway IBO's selling their business we heard that bullshit all the time at cult meetings. But it comes back to being a one man show and the person is the reason people do business with him. And again I'm using that literally because only those ambots high up the pyramid would have any kind of downline and sales income. They could always try to sell but once the main guy is gone the customers tend to go too.

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    2. In the cases you mentioned, what is valuable is their client list. That is what they will sell when they make that decision. As for Amway or most network marketing plans, does anyone have a client list to sell? I doubt it. In most cases, Amway IBO's don't even know who uses their final products, most likely another IBO downline. If that is the case, how can an IBO sell her client list.

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    3. Anonymous - even selling a client list is no guarantee to the buyer that these clients will now become his customers. Sometimes its the person who's the business and when that person retires, that's the end of things. They can sell off business equipment or the client list but usually that's the end of things. As for buying a client list from an ambot or another MLM scammer - do they even have a list to sell? No customers is the way it is with these Amway losers. Not counting their family and friends who make the occasional pity purchase. These people will be relieved their ambot has gotten away from Amway so they don't have to buy overpriced shitty products anymore.

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