Monday, February 1, 2016

Amway WWDB World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2016



Yup its getting close to that time of the year again when Amway WWDB Spring Leadership 2016 function is coming up. If anyone has information about it for 2016 feel free to load up the comments.

This blog is getting inundated from Amway ambots searching for information about Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2016 and other years too because Ambots seem to think they have the power to turn back time just by the virtue of the fact that they’re in Amway. And yes they’ve come to the right place. Spring Leadership is yet another Amway WWDB function that is top secret and the Amway cult leaders won’t tell the IBO’s what its about so Ambots frantically search online.

World Wide Dream Builders and Amway holds 4 brainwashing conferences through the year: Dream Night, Spring Leadership, Family Reunion  and Free Enterprise Days FED. The Amway cult followers go ballistic crazy in their love and devotion and shower their leaders with $125 each to buy a ticket. WWDB Spring Leadership is usually held in April but so far the Amway cult leaders haven’t put the actual dates anywhere that I can find them so too bad for those Ambots desparately trying to find out cause so far I don’t know. And bottom line I don’t really give a shit either. The dates are more to help the search engine ranks.

So for those of you who are wondering what the fuck is Amway WWDB Spring Leadership its just another expensive social Amway gathering where ambots go to worship their Amway cult leaders and hand over their money. The ambots coming from out of town and that’s just about everyone, add in the travel expenses plus hotels and meals.

For some cities this agonizing Amway convention drags on for 3 days and other cities its 2 days. I guess the 3 day events are in cities with dumber than average Amway ambots if such a thing could exist because the jury is in that everyone in Amway is dumber than shit!

According to the Amway propaganda the Amway cult leaders will be teaching Ambots how leadership plays a role in building the business. I’m not going to debate whether or not that’s true in the real business world but just LOL that they’re peddling that bullshit at an Amway brainwashing conference. Too many leaders and not enough Ambots based on the old too many Chiefs and not enough Braves syndrome comes to mind. And how does that work out? There will always only be a small number of Amway cult leaders. All the other lowly ambots are only being bullshitted with the leadership mumbo jumbo because the bastards at the top of the pyramid don’t want to share too many slices of greed pie. Apparently mostly the Amway cult leaders will be preaching how important it is to have a dream and how having a dream makes someone successful. Again just a bunch of bullshit Amspeak propaganda. Amway is all about dreaming. The Amway scheme is to dream yourself into riches. Motivational and promotional videos will be shown all weekend. Let me break that down. The motivational videos will be about the Amway Diamond’s material possessions and how they aspire to be featured on the TV show Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. The promotional videos will have to do with the Amway tool scam. Sign up for Communikate, buy more books and CD’s. That sort of shit. John Maxwell will be a speaker and the Amway cult leaders make a point of saying he’s sold over 16 million books. I bet we can all guess what some of those promotional videos will be showing –  LOL! - buy some of his books.

Here let me break it down to what really happens at Amway WWDB Spring Leadership. At Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership the Diamonds are bullshitting and lying about how to build a business but mostly focusing on having a dream to believe in is the secret to success in Amway. Supposedly the Diamonds are teaching how leadership builds an Amway business and they’ll be yapping about dream building and believing in your dream and the usual mumbo jumbo brainwashing bullshit you can expect at any Amway function. They’ll be teaching leadership and business methods (Yeah right. That would be a first) and showing motivational and promotion videos all weekend.

And now for what really happens…. There will be a never ending parade of Ken and Barbie Diamonds stomping across the stage. Brainwashed ambots will shriek and rush the stage to get closer to their beloved cult leaders. The arena’s security staff will beat them off. “Get back to your seats motherfuckers!!!!” Ambot Barbie will talk first. She’ll say something like I was working a minimum wage job as a waitress in a biker bar and had to flash my boobs to make tips. Ambot Ken was working for the man cleaning porta potties. Do you know what its like coming home to a man who smells like shit every night???? Then one day a dear friend showed us “the business” plan. We borrowed $20 for gas to make it to the Amway conference. And now we are rich rich rich and we pay for everything in cash. I love Ken so much for giving me the lifestyle of the rich and greedy. He’s my warrior…… Then some lowly piece of shit Amway ambot brings a chair onstage and Barbie sits there and stares down warrior Ken while he brags about their mansion, their fleet of cars, their private jet, the vacations they take and then shows a slide show of all their material possessions. Or maybe the ones they rented for the day for the staged photo shoot. They finish by mocking the adoring ambots that if they can do it “then so can you”. Meanwhile the only thing on Ken and Barbie’s minds is how much of the ticket sales proceeds are they going home with for showing up today to bullshit the Amway cult followers.

Last year the jokers showing up on the World Wide Destructive Bastards website were being called “difference makers”. I got two words for all you fucking Amway “difference makers”. FUCK YOU!!!! The only difference you bastards are making is making your cult followers poorer and even further in debt. The only difference between last year’s brainwashing conference and this year’s brainwashing conference is that the majority of faces in the crowd will be different. I’m not going to list the Amway bastards raking in the ticket sales for a couple of reasons. It’s the same old tired crew who always show up to bore the Ambots. We don’t call WWDB World Wide Destructive BASTARDS for nothing!

Tickets cost $125 and here’s where WWDB Amway Spring Leadership 2016 is going to be held but I don’t have the dates yet and Kingston Jamaica dropped off the list from last year. Guess these bastards aren’t as “Worldwide” as they’re bullshitting you to believe! LOL!

Las Vegas
Spokane
Honolulu
Calgary
Minneapolis
Denver
Fort Lauderdale


And for another year in a row Washington DC is missing from the line up but I had to put it in this post to help with search results!

Spring Leadership will drag on for 2 or 3 days this year beginning on Friday night, depends on which city you’re going to. The Friday night brainwashing session is mostly a show of Amway products and there might not be any Diamonds brainwashing their cult followers that night in the arena but they’ll probably have a top secret meeting somewhere else for “serious business builders”.

This boring Amway Spring Leadership bullshit goes on all weekend. There is no training how to increase Amway sales, how to find prospects to recruit into the cult, there are no leadership skills taught. Just a bunch of Ken and Barbie Ambots figuring out how to entertain their cult followers and keep them up all night. Sleep deprivation is a common cult tactic for brainwashing.

And there you have it. Ambots wasted lots of $$$ just to hear the same bullshit they hear at every Amway function. But by going to the function that puts them 6 months ahead of the ambots who didn’t go. Yeah 6 months closer to bankruptcy.

And now all Amway ambots can save their money and not make the assholes in their upline richer by buying tickets to go to Amway WWDB Spring Leadership 2016 because I’ve already covered the highlights.

And now for a little assistance on the search results including years gone and still to come because Amway ambots are so fucked up they don’t know what year it is. Seriously. They’re searching backwards and forwards. That’s what getting brainwashed into the Amway cult does to a person.

World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2016
Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2016
World Wide Dream Builders Amway Spring Leadership 2016
Amway Spring Leadership 2016
WWDB Amway Spring Leadership 2016

World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2015
Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2015
World Wide Dream Builders Amway Spring Leadership 2015
Amway Spring Leadership 2015
WWDB Amway Spring Leadership 2015
World Wide Dream Builders Amway Spring Leadership 2014
Amway WWDB Spring Leadership 2013
WWDB Amway Spring Leadership 2012
Amway WWDB Spring Leadership 2011
World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2017
Amway World Wide Dream Builders Spring Leadership 2017
World Wide Dream Builders Amway Spring Leadership 2017
Amway Spring Leadership 2017
WWDB Amway Spring Leadership 2017


And as always let send out a big old FUCK YOU to the assholes in the Amway upline!

Amway sucks!

WWDB sucks!

Spring Leadership sucks!

All Amway functions suck!


83 comments:

  1. It's amazing that WWDB (World Wide Douche Bags) can pull off this fraud every year. You don't learn a damned thing at these stupid functions except how to cheer.

    But I suppose if some people are dumb enough to spend $125 (plus travel, hotel and food expenses) to listen to lies, hype, and bullshit, they deserve to get ripped off.

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    1. Anonymous - it is amazing. And more so that Amway does nothing to stop this WWDB bullshit function. They're all thieves and criminals stealing from people who probably can least afford the kind of losses they'll be stuck with thanks to Scamway.

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    2. Hey Anna, would love to discuss this more with you...I know someone close to me who is getting ready to "launch" with WWDB...not comfortable with it at all!

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    3. Hi Anonymous - sorry to hear about your friend getting involved with the Amway WWDB cult. Ask him for the Amway brochure that shows how much money IBOs can earn and look for the small print where it shows a fraction of 1% of partipants make money in Scamway. Then whack your friend with the paper until he understands that means over 99% wont make money but they'll be losing hundreds of dollars ambots investing in the Amway scam. If you haven't already done so download a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. There's a link on the right side of this page under more Amway info. Read the book. It's a horror story. You won't be able to put it down. Then convince your friend to read it. Your friend is in for a lot of financial and emotional distress if he's dumb enough to get involved with the Amway WWDB cult. Good luck to you.

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    4. I'm so sorry that you've all bad experiences with some people in the amway business. I can tell you that my wife and I are only still married because of the love and support we've gotten in the business. If there wasn't any money in the business we'd still be in it for the friendships. All I can say is that like in anything there are knuckleheads. Spend a day with someone whose actually had a successful business for several years and you'd likely find your issues were really tied to specific people who wronged you or someone you know.

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    5. Thanks for stopping by to spout off a buch of bullshit Amspeak propaganda and for reinforcing that Amwayis still a blame the victim scam. You Ambots are soooooooo boring.

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    6. Let’s look you up or your company and see what’s wrong on the internet and blog about it. Let me ask you is this how you make decisions based on the internet or you’ve been to a amway or worldwide event. Clearly you weren’t the right person cuz if you were you wouldn’t be writing a blog about it. And you would be posting your real name not a anonymous one. I bet your employed and working for someone else. It’s sad pretty soon whatever you thought was a safe and secure job will be replaced by robots or machines. And if you think I’m crazy.. wait ..

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    7. Anonymous- people in Amway are the most nasty evil vicious motherfuckers you’ll ever meet. I don’t put the name of our company on this site because fucking Amway losers would be heading to Yelp and Google reviews and posting fake reviews because Ambots are fucking liars and fucking troublemakers. After we left the Amway cult one of the fucking assholes in our WWDB group posted a fake review that was pretty bad even though he’d never been a client. It is really hard to get fake reviews written by liars down. We just got lucky and the dumb fuck bragged about it on Facebook. I don’t think I’ve written a post about that so thanks for reminding me. At your next WWDB meeting you can brag that you inspired me to write that post.

      And if you actually read the posts here you’d see I’ve been to many Amway and WWDB meetings so it’s just amazing what you Amway losers lie about. Robots and machines? Is that the doom and gloom the Amway cult leaders are preaching these days? Sounds like you need to get a tech job fixing these things when they break down instead of being a commissioned sales rep for overpriced shitty soap.

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    8. This is why you will die broke lol. I am not in Amway nor have I ever been but your shitty attitute and bitching all the time just tells everyone that you are a loser and clearly have no life so you sit around on the internet and write reviews all day because you have nothing better to do. Here's an idea... grow up, act like an adult, and stop writing fake reviews about a company that has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau. Even if I really hate a company I wouldn't sit around writing reviews all day, I would move on and do something relevant with my life, and stop hiding behind a fake name you pussy. Again, never been in Amway.

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    9. Hey Anonymous - I didn't know that Amway changed the code of ethics and now allow Ambots to hit the Internet and brag about any affiliation with the BBB. It used to be that would get you fired from Amway! You do know that companies get their rating from how fast they respond to BBB complaints. The company doesn't have to make do anything else to make things right for their customer. Just respond to the BBB in the time limit.

      And if you're so worried I'll die broke why don't you send money?

      And if you've never been in Amway why do you spout off a bunch of bullshit that hundreds of broke Amway losers have left on this blog over the years?

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    10. Anna, the guy at 9:31 AM is a lying son of a bitch.

      He's never been in Amway? Really? And yet he comes here to an anti-Amway blog, spouts the typical Amway propaganda about the BBB, and obviously is enraged by the fact that we attack Amway.

      But the guy has "never been in Amway." What a lying piece of shit he is.

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    11. How do you know when someone in Amway is lying?

      Their mouth is moving!

      Or in the case of the Internet, when they're typing something.

      It's the bad behavior by the Ambots that contributes to giving Amway a bad name. Who would want to go into "business" with a sack of shit who left those comments.

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  2. Its in las Vegas on April 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

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    1. Hey thanks Anonymous. Las Vegas apparently deals with the dumber than average Amway Ambot cause its one of the 3 days cities! LOL!. For christ sakes people there are better ways to lose money in Las Vegas than going to an Amway convention! And get served free alcohol. That won't be happening at a Scamway function. They'll charge you through the nose for snacks.

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  3. One of the tactics used by brainwashing cults like Amway is to separate their members from the real world. "Don't listen to the naysayers" they are told. In other words, don't listen to your friends who actually care about you, or keep up with the news because you might see an article about the latest lawsuit or fraud involving the cult itself. No, instead pay your last nickel and pray to the great Amway God that the broken down old rusty Ambotmobile and its bald tires make it to the next brainwashing seminar to get inspired by the feel good Amway brainwashing rush they get from seeing their cult leaders up close. Get inspired to go back into the real world and gather some more money to give it away as tribute to the Amway God. Tithe as in 10%? Hell no! Amway wants everything you've got. Got any dreams? They want that too.

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    1. Hi Ray. Let's see how long it takes for some brainwashed Amway Ambot to leave a comment here screeching about us breaking down what really happens at Amway WWDB Spring Leadership. Truth hurts doesn't it you Amway bastards. Amway wants everything you have. And what you don't have too.

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  4. It starts on April Fool's Day! How appropriate!

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    1. Yup. A bunch of Amway fools going to a brainwashing conference on April Fool's Day. LOL!

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    2. it is on the weekend of april 7-9th this year (spokane). my friend told me it was a church leadership conference so i went to a "prep meeting" where i realized this was a scam and now i feel bad because i dont think she realizes what is going on and I dont want her to cluelessly follw along.

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    3. Hi there blogger. You must do everything you can to disuade your friend from going to Amway spring leadership. This is an event to get all the Ambots "fired up" and force them to spend more money. Disable her car. Hide her keys. Entice her with a spa treatment. Do whatever you can to keep her away from those Amway losers because she'll have nothing in her future except financial and emotional distress.

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  5. You have a better chance of getting rich in Las Vegas at the roulette wheel or the blackjack table than you do in Amway.

    I don't mean that as hyperbole. You have about a one in forty chance of hitting a number in roulette. But you have a 99% rate of failure in Amway.

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    1. Anonymous - agreed! You have a better chance of making money in Las Vegas at roulette or just about anything else in those casinos than you do at playing pretend Amway business owner.

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  6. Insider tip: The general theme for the WWDB 2016 Spring Leadership function will be the following --

    "Living The Dream, And Making It Work For Others!"

    It's the typically stupid Amway title. I received this information secretly from someone in the know, and I promised not to reveal his identity.

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    1. Anonymous - Usually Spring Leadership has some bullshit about dream your life away as part of that year's slogan.

      As you said. Typically stupid Amway title.

      Gotcha. Everyone in Amway is too embarrassed to admit they're an Amway loser.

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  7. Can't wait to see how my gf spins it this time. It will be a year in April since she got manipulated into the "business." Still not making money and still wasting her life. What a joke...

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    1. My now ex is about to hit her first year in March. I'm sure she's still gonna be as brainwashed as before. I'm surprised that her association hasn't made her break up with you yet.

      -A

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    2. Anonymous - a year? Most Ambots quit after a few months but a year is about as long as most of them can stretch it out as long as their money holds up to tithe the Great Amway God. She'll be all rah rah hyped up for about a week after Spring Leadership until the reality sinks in again that she's losing money and not making any. Hopefully she'll quit before Family Reunion rolls around.

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    3. 2nd Anonymous - yeah, don't know why the assholes in her Amway upline haven't forced her to break up with her boyfriend yet. Maybe he's helping foot the bill. Can't cut off the money source even if they are a negative unchristian dreamstealer who will be dead or broke by the time they're 65. I'm sure he's heard that version many times - how the assholes in her Amway upline describe him!

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  8. The WWDB 2016 Spring Leadership theme will be what? "Living the Dream, and Making It Work For Others"?

    Translated into English, that should read "Lying Through Your Teeth, and Making Others Believe It."

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    1. Anonymous - you got that right! That's the basic slogan for every Scamway meeting out there: "Lying Through Your Teeth, and Making Others Believe It."

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    2. What is the difference at the red carpet for movies stars, everyone gathers around to give support for their success. Does that make anybody that watches movies or TV apart of a cult?

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    3. What is the difference at the red carpet for movies stars, everyone gathers around to give support for their success. Does that make anybody that watches movies or TV apart of a cult?

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    4. Diana - I don't know what red carpet events you're going to but I've been to plenty of events where celebrities show up and it's unlikely any spectators are gathering around to give support for their success. Screaming their names out to catch their attention to take a picture is more likely the worst behavior I've seen. But then normal people react to life situations differently than brainwashed Amway Ambots. And I love how you Ambots show up with your fucked up thinking accusing everyone and everything but Amway of being a cult. People buying items celebrities have for sale like CDs DVDs probably don't cost more than $30 and on,y get released once a year or so. Celebrities aren't trying to fuck people over like Amway ambots.

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    5. Diana - sure sign of an Amway Ambot is they duplicate themselves.

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  9. If the rate of downline quitting is greater than the downline recruited, then a diamond's income would decline at a significant rate.

    It is for the very reason that diamonds would do everything to keep their "babies" inside the crib such as "brainwashing" these baby downlines not to "question their upline", "ask permission" from upline on anything even to the smallest decision, "not to quit" because success is around the corner and force these babies to "buy tools" and to attend "all functions."

    The downlines on the other hand, are treated as "slaves", by their uplines, who are desperate to maintain their bonus level.

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    1. Anonymous - Amway is all about recruiting new cult followers as fast as the old ones quit to keep the money flowing up the pyramid. I think its getting tougher for Amway to do that except in 3rd world countries and even there its tough for the ambots to afford the overpriced shitty products to meet their monthly quota.

      Oh yeah the Amway downline are treated like slaves. The fucking assholes in our Amway upline always had work they needed done around the house like go wash your own fucking dishes I'm not going to wash your shit.

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  10. You have to do housework tasks for your up-line?!?

    That's un-fucking-believable. Being in Amway is like being in Dante's Inferno.

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    1. Housework. Yard work. Building a gazebo. LOL wouldn't want to be sitting under an Ambot built structure if a light wind comes along! LOL. Those bastards were even installing a bathroom in our sack of shit Platinum's house around the time we quit. No one with experience framing a room, putting up drywall, or electrical or plumbing. I mean you just can't put in a toilet anywhere you want if there's not already existing pipes there. LOL! And these bastards were getting their advice partly online and partly from each other seeing as how they had all gone to Amway University and that meant they were experts in everything.

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  11. The comments of Anonymous at February 4, 11:34 AM, about the way in which Amway corrupts and defiles religion are right on the mark.

    The so-called "Prosperity Gospel" is a cynical and self-serving fake notion that is rejected by every serious Christian theologian in the world, from every denomination. Telling people that the message of the Gospels is that you should get rich is totally off the wall, not to mention blasphemous.

    Amway needs the Prosperity Gospel because it is a useful fig leaf to cover the appalling greed and money-grubbing that are at the heart of the Amway cult. You can salve your conscience by saying that ripping off your down-line, and lying to prospective recruits, are all part of "God's Will."

    And yes, Amway is starting to take on the trappings of a church, with its "Amway Christian Fellowship" and with fundamentalist hick diamonds giving impromptu sermons at those stupid, freaked-out, revival-like "functions." It's exactly what happened with that evil fraud, Scientology. When government investigations got too hot for them, they decided to declare themselves the "Church of Scientology." Amway might do the same one day. De Vos and Van Andel will become saints, and Ada, Michigan will become a place of pilgrimage.

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    1. Anonymous - yup all cults have their own twisted religion. With Scamway you have to worship the Great Amway God and the saints DeVos and VanAndel and make your holy pilgrimage to Ada. But Scamway better suck the Ambots into doing all those things in the first 4 or 5 months after they sign up before they quit.

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  12. I do not see one comment that has anything worthwhile to say. All lies and exaggerations. Not one shred of evidence that Amway is a scam. Just the same old worn out arguments. I am not writing much because I am sure this will get deleted too.

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    1. Hi David Misner. Why wouldn't your comment get printed? We publish just about everything here. And your comment is very tame compared to comments left by most Amway losers. Here's a copy and paste of your comment just in case you're worried it'll get deleted. Amway Ambot paranoia?

      "I do not see one comment that has anything worthwhile to say. All lies and exaggerations. Not one shred of evidence that Amway is a scam. Just the same old worn out arguments. I am not writing much because I am sure this will get deleted too."

      David - have you even looked at the small print on the Amway literature where Amway states something like .0000267% (or whatever the current fraction of 1% is) will make money. Reverse it. That's over 99% of IBO's who will NOT make money. How can you possibly think that a "business opportunity" with over 99% failure rate isn't a scam. The evidence comes right from Amway! LOL! Isn't that good enough "evidence" for you? LOL!

      And how can you possibly say people who are reporting their true experiences of what they saw and heard at Amway meetings be a lie and exaggeration? I mean fuck you David! Not only did we attend Amway meetings but we recorded them. And we refer to some of those recordings when writing blog posts to make sure we've accurately conveyed the Amway cult leader's bullshit and lies. Did you take a look at the link on the right side of this page where Dateline went undercover at Amway meetings. Are the Amway leaders lying? You betcha. And they're all recorded. Like I said people who went to Amway meetings know the truth and have the recordings to back it up.

      I know you Amway Ambots go to Amway University so that makes you an automatic expert in everything. But then do you go to PeeWee Herman College to learn how to make assholes out of yourselves too? I know you are but what am I? That's how you deal with people who tell the truth about their Amway experiences. Fucking Amway losers call the truth a lie. That's how fucked in the head brainwashed you Amway losers are.

      I'm surprised you left a message here at all seeing as how the Amway cult leaders forbid their followers from reading and commenting on blogs like this. So I admire someone who says FUCK YOU to their boss and goes ahead and does it anyway. And oh yeah David Misner, even if you come back and delete your post so no one in Amway finds out about (and yes head office reads here every day) the comments get deleted but your name stays there, my comments copied and pasted you exactly how you said. Not that you said anything. Come on now David. If you want to be that fraction of 1% who makes money in Amway you've got to be a bigger fucking asshole than that!

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    2. David Misner must be living in a dream world. There are literally years and years of testimony at this website and several others about Amway and its fraudulent scam. But according to Misner, there's "no evidence" presented.

      There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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    3. Anonymous good old David has probably figured out he's been scammed by Amway and instead of making a quiet exit and accepting he got scammed out of his money he's blowing off his anger at people like us who have pointed out the obvious. Amway is a scam!

      Let's see if he shows up to tell us to do our research, like our real life experiences aren't good enough research. Amazing how many Amway losers show up here screeching about doing research and fail to take their own advice. If Ambots had done their research they wouldn't be inside the Amway cult and making assholes out of themselves all over the Internet.

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    4. Ten to one David Misner is getting his ass reamed out right now by his Amway up-line for daring to come here and look at the comments, and take part in the thread.

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    5. Hi Anonymous - if David Misner isn't getting his ass reamed out right now its in his near future for sure. I mean you don't show up at an anti-Amway blog and use your real name because of the Amway snitches that show up here to read. The biggest bunch of whiny ass crybabies are all in Amway and they're a bunch of fucking troublemakers who only want to bring trouble to other peoples lives so good old Davey is going to be on a shit list real fast because those bastards at Amway's head office can trace his name to the assholes in his Amway upline and ensure he gets a shit kicking for his part in increasing this blog in the search engines.

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  13. I am going to the spring leadership convention. I don't know much about amway or wwdb, but I was intrigued enough by the success of someone I recently met to check it out. They seem like nice people.

    If it is anything like what some posters have described here, ie: worshipping money, I won't stay long. I would like to thank all the posters for sharing their experience and I will be back in 3 days or less with my follow up to this post.

    The cash I spent to find out what its all about is not much for me. If I do find it to be as scammy as you're *mostly* indicating here, I would be sickened that some poor people, that can least afford it, will be suckered out of their money.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Remember that everyone in Amway is a liar. That "success" only comes to those at the top of the pyramid who've probably been in Amway a very long time. Amway's literature shows that only a fraction of 1% of IBO's make money. That's over 99% failure rate. Anyone saying they're successful in Amway its better to be skeptical. Some "successful" Diamonds who supposedly pay for everything in cash, declared bankruptcy and had the house foreclosed on. In Amway its all about fake it till you make it. Or maybe you don't make it.

      And speaking of fake, think about these "nice" people. Doesn't it come off phoney to you? A cult tactic that Amway uses is called love bombing and that's what you're being subjected to right now. Wait until you tell your upline you have something better to do than go to an Amway meeting or you're not planning to buy any Amway products that month and then see how "nice" they are.

      Yeah, for sure come back and tell us how it went.

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    2. Any news to report from the convention?

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    3. I understand the Spring Leadership convention was so poorly attended that WWDB is deeply embarrassed, and doesn't want to talk about it.

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  14. Hi Anna B.the conference in Spokane starts tonite. To Anonymous April 8, 2016....You would be wise to heed the message conveyed in the stories that have been shared in this blog and not join scamway. My daughter bought the lie and has been batting at air, chasing the wind, and continues to just plain lose money. She has become evasive and secretive, I hate to admit she lies, but she does. Her other ambot friends we've met are liars too. We've been Living the Nightmare here of this cults grip on my daughter. Please don't join. You seem to be reasonable and motivated so I'm sure you can come up with other ways to make money or real businesses you can start.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Be prepared for your daughter to be "fired up" for the next week and more lies and creepy behavior. It's all part of the Amway cult. And as you said there's lots of ways for people to legitimately make money that have nothing to do with signing up to an MLM scam

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    2. In Amway you are taught that it is OK to lie if it supports your business growth.

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    3. Anonymous - but only the best liars and scammers actually have a hope of making money in Amway. The rest of the Ambots who are only average liars or have a conscience won't "build their business". Shit how many times have I heard that at Amway meetings.

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  15. I was in Las Vegas over the weekend and visited an off-strip casino/convention center for a family get together. While there, I noticed a large number of suit clad people wandering around carrying day planners. Now this is quite odd in Vegas where most normal people wear shorts and tee-shirts.

    Then at lunch, I'm waiting in line at the food court and can hear various suit wearing folk excitedly talking about "building the business" and "ain't it great?" Now I had not thought about scamway in years since my wife got sucked into it but now it hit me like a ton of bricks--these were ambots! All the sickening memories flooded back. The push to attend conferences and buy "tools". All the fake family building and glad-handing. All the insipid sayings like, "fake it until you make it" or JOB "Just Over Broke".

    Later while attending my family event which was located in one of the many meeting rooms, I happened to see "Free Enterprise Day" or FED posted on one of the rooms. Yup, that sealed the deal. It was scamway! Luckily I didn't get prospected. But it might have been fun to try to save some of them. It's amazing this fraud can survive in the internet age.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by to tell us about your trip. The only people who go to Las Vegas and lose money without gambling at a casino are Amway Ambots! LOL!

      And yeah pretty much year round people wear shorts and t-shirts in Las Vegas especially this time of year.

      I remember how Amway Ambots used to congregate in front of the doors an hour before it was open and they'd all be bragging about building their business, how business is going great and how much BV they're at. You'll see more liars and bullshitters at Amway conventions than you'll see at a political rally.

      Cheap suits, cell phones plastered to the ear, arrogant pricks bragging about "the business" = Amway Ambots.

      Yeah they're trying to sign up Ambots earlier all the time for Amway conventions. Get the money in hand and if the Ambot quits sometime in the next few months the cult leader still has their money.

      I'm amazed that you didn't get prospected especially waiting in line at the food court. Some Amway loser would come up to you and sneer at you for eating a hot dog and drinking a coke and try to sell you a shitty Amway food bar and a can of XS cat piss water and brag about how rich they're getting buying from their own store. And then you could have pointed out that if their store's only customer is themselves then they're a bunch of losers.

      Make that broke losers.

      Its my guess there were more Ambots hanging around the food court than actually buying food to eat. They're too broke to afford a snack.

      Amway's sales have been decreasing by about 10% a year for the past few years so hopefully the Internet is helping with victims getting their stories out how they got scammed by Amway. I hope this fraud doesn't last much longer.

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  16. Hi AB! Anonymous Las Vegas here again...

    I would have been prospected if not for the fact that after I realized who these bozos were, I probably had the most angry, pissed off scowl on my face any time someone in a suit got close to me. (Actually it wasn't just the suit, they all obediently wore their conference badges on their neck lanyards 24x7 so they weren't hard to spot!)


    Some other funny observations:

    Two food court amots in line trying to out bs each other. One of them stops mid brag when he spots a big pin guy passing by, "Hey Mike, GRRRREAAAT speech! It totally FIRED ME UP! I want to shake your hand! Man I gotta get a picture with you!" Big pin guy is obviously some big wig upline since he was actually wearing a decent suit and proper shoes.

    Down at the pool, there were two ambot families. The wife and kids were normal enough except for the husbands who were wearing their suits! Ok, one had taken his jacket and tie off but still had dress slacks, shirt, and shoes. C'mon who goes to the pool in a suit??? An amot apparently.

    Mullet ambot. Picture a big 300+ lb guy, wearing black suit that is too small so the coat can't even be buttoned, white sport socks, brown slip on shoes, sporting a righteous mullet! I wanted so badly to take a selfie with him!

    But funny as the average amot is, their upline big pins are the worst scum bags. They will lie and use every manipulative cult technique to make a profit off of people and keep them in the dark. How they can sleep at night is beyond me.

    Then to add insult to injury, they also try to foist their religious and political views on their "downline". I recall a couple of functions my wife dragged me to where we were told who to vote for and what values we should subscribe to. The audacity!

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Yeah that's so funny. Amway Ambots are always FIRED UP. And business is going great. The Ambot families got dragged along cause Amway functions are the only vacation they get. Luckily they got to go to a decent place that's set up for tourists the way Las Vegas is. Who else wears suits at the swimming pool except for Ambots pretending they're big shots.

      Like all cults Amway has their own twisted brand of religion and everyone in their flock has to worship the Great Amway God.

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  17. Any cult (including Amway) is totalitarian in nature. They want to control your thinking, your activities, your beliefs, your attitudes, your politics, your tastes, and your speech. Even your clothing and your facial expressions are liable to be dictated.

    Some ambots have tried to defend this when they come here to comment. They say that you "have to be a part of the culture of Amway." That's just a euphemistic way of saying that you have to conform slavishly to what everybody else is doing.

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    1. Anonymous - that's right. The Amway cult leaders preach the gospel of the Great Amway God while brainwashing their followers. And Ambots show up here to defend and deny that happens.

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  18. 23 yr old boy, much difficulty making - especially keeping friends. Calls Mommy every day & trying to sell her on Amway This was done 2 yrs ago & he got burned. Mommy wants to make him feel happy instead of making him " THINK"! He is so handsome but girls dump him instantly. Under- achiever in school with low job prospects. Wants the "best" in clothes and everything always. In fact, work clothes, brand names in everything, tools, sport stuff - like skis and boots - will not listen. Bipolar but mom won't admit - any advice?

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    1. Hi Russell - I'm assuming you're not the 23 year old boy! Like other cults, the Amway cult preys on people who need something in their lives like instant friends. Amway uses the cult tactic called love bombing which is lot of fake nicey nice shit, hugging, paying compliments, showing exaggerated interest in someone, etc.

      Tell Mommy not to enable her son. In other words she shouldn't buy any of his shitty overpriced Amway products or sign up to be in his downline because it'll just give him false hope he can find other suckers. If he's still living at home, kick him out. Amway Ambots have communes going where lots of them will share a crash pad.

      Of course girls dump him instantly. He's a broke Amway loser. Women want a man who can show he's financially responsible and doesn't belong to a creepy cult. Amway is the Cult of Greed where all material items are worshipped so of course he wants the best of everything because that is what's taught at Amway cult meetings. Why settle for a house you can afford when you can live in a mansion type of thing.

      If he has medical issues he should be under doctor care to get the proper medicine. The problem is the liars in Amway will tell him Amway sells a Nutrilite vitamin than can cure him and tell him to take it and it'll be some piece of shit vitamin that costs $100 for a one month supply that does nothing. Amway liars claim their vitamins cure every terminal illness. They have no morals or conscience and they don't care who they walk over to make a buck.

      The good news is most Ambots quit within a few months when they finally wake up and admit they've lost a lot of money and they're not making any money. So the don't enable him advice stands. If he can't make his bills cause he's tithing the Great Amway God let him take the repercussions. He's young enough to bounce back emotionally and financially.

      Good luck with this one.

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  19. Just happened to stumble upon a WWDB conference that people were lining up to get in for in my neighborhood yesterday, and was absolutely amazed at the peculiar feel to the crowd. Men dressed in business suits and ties; women in upscale attire, and an overall sense of over the top phony enthusiasm that hit me smack in the face as utter BS. I ended up having an unexpected 'chat' with one of the indoctrinees, and the creepy feeling of someone who has been brainwashed was inescapable. The fact that there were approx. 500 people in line in front of a suburban high school auditorium only added to that surrealness. Doing some quick math; and based on a ticket price of $125/per person, whoever the higher-ups are that are orchestrating this folly are raking in some big cash, while preying on the hopes and desperate dreams of the underclass....

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    1. Hi gplunk! Thanks for stopping by with your Ambot experience. People like us who aren't brainwashed into a cult figure out real fast there's something going on with these people. The way they dress and the way they act with their fake nicey nice routine. I'm surprised they didn't try to recruit you and sell you a ticket to their brainwashing conference! LOL! But you figured out real fast something not right is going on here. Amway ambots preying anyone to make a buck. It's sick the way they go after the disadvantaged and yuck, I don't need to get started again on the Amway evil. You got it right. Stay clear of these fuckers.

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  20. Wow, I've been recruited by AMBOTS all my life when I was in my early teens and then early 20's I checked it out., mostly at bookstores and coffee shops where they prey on people while they read all the educational Self help books their upline tells them to go out and buy. From my experience, the only people making money are the people who author the books they buy....and AMWAY corporate charging hundreds of dollars for their conferences and also $60 plus bucks a pop everytime they have a local 1 day thing. I am sooo in love with my Girl but she grew up not believing in herself (perfect target for amway) she's now in her late 30's and all of a sudden she started asking me questions about how id feel about certain companies...she was fishing. surely her soon to be upline told her to do this. But wait, there is more...it lead to me suspecting she was talking about Amway and I told her my true opinion...the one i list above. Well low and behold all was fine when she said but its not AMWAY its World Wide Dream Builders! I was suspect and when she started to go out late and "Coach" people all over town...then came the books and the "product" she said they "help" people and dont focus on selling a product....then all of a sudden came the little white bottles of everything from shampoo to face wash...then the little bottles of water etc (look way down in the corner of all packaging and what do you know....AMWAY logo). Next thing you know, they are telling her that she needs to be with a partner that supports her which i do...but theres more...the partner must support her in this "business" or she wont be successful. Here we go. Anyway I support her best I can without ever mentioning her "project" and I really really pray she is successful in this because I cant stand to see her hurt. But what I fear most is that she will separate from me, later fail and be without both me and her "WWDB" dream. But by them...it will be too late for both. Finally they go so far to seperate themselves from the rest of the world as to hold religious ceremonies or "felowship" at all of their meetings and conferences...I've got nothing against a religion I go to church myself....but not in my office building and it isn't mandatory. All I can say is that being with someone that is in this company is like being with someone addicted to crack...i've actually know someone addicted to crack but not dated and yes....its really like that. If your relationship is new and the person gets involved with WWDB either get the out quick or you get out of the relationship quick you will be hurt. Its too late for me, I love her...you all SAVE YOURSELVES!

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    1. Hi Anonymous - thanks for stopping by to share your story. I think we'll copy it out to feature in an upcoming post in a few months.

      And whether or not this brings you any comfort, your story is the same as everyone elses who has a loved on in the Amway cult. Your story is only slightly different in that its the woman who's the Ambot. Usually its a wife or girlfriend because normally its a man who's an Ambot, telling your story but I've seen this a few times over the past couple of years where men have come here and posted its their wife or girlfriend who got recruited by the Amway cult.

      Right down to scamming people by saying "this isn't Amway. It's World Wide Dream Builders". aka WWDB aka World Wide Destructive Bastards.

      As you noted the only people making money off selling books or tickets to functions are the Amway cult leaders. This is all part of what is known as the Amway tool scam. That's the only way to make money in Amway and you have to be at the top of the pyramid.

      In other words your girlfriend who's running all over town trying to "coach" people is bullshitting them that she's in a mentorship and leadership training program and you have to buy "tools" like books and CDs and tickets to various events where some fucking Amway Diamond shows up to lie to the crowd and taunt them if I can do it so can you.

      And you're absolutely right. No real business is holding religious meetings for the staff. Like all cults, Amway twists religion to suit their purposes. Your girlfriend is being brainwashed. Where you said the fucking assholes in her Amway upline want her to have a partner who supports her in the Amway scam is something we've all heard before. And here's where it gets bad for you. You're the person who has the ability to reason with her and show her that she's losing money. Keep a spreadsheet! The Amway cult can't have reasonable people like you hanging around their followers. They're working on her right now to destroy your relationship. Nothing brings those sick Amway bastards more happiness than destroying other people's relationships.

      If you haven't already done so, download a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. There's a link in the right side of this page under more information about Amway. Its written by a former Emerald with 1000 people in his downline and he was only making about $30,000/year. Does your girlfriend have 1000 people she can keep motivated to stay in the cult and buying a minimum quota of shitty overpriced Amway products every month. Unlikely. Get her to read the book too if you can.

      Good luck to you.

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    2. Yes Guys, Listen to someone on the internet whose username is anna banana because what internet bloggers say is always true especially the negative ones

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    3. Why are you fucking Amway losers so obsessed with negative? Normal people who aren't brainwashed by a cult don't suffer from that problem. And that problem is unable to tell the difference between negative and the truth. Don't like hearing the truth? Then that's your problem. Stop going to Amway brainwashing meetings and deprogram yourself and maybe you'll figure it out.

      This blog gets tens of thousands of views every month so obviously lots of people out there want to hear what we have to say. This blog has over 50 subscribed followers and a lot more who don't publicly follow. You got that many in your downline? Dumb fuck.

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  21. Hey you! Anonymous Ambot at 4:14 PM!

    Why don't you shove your sarcasm up your rear end, and after doing that, tell us how much money you have lost in Amway so far?

    We're all interested in hearing about your failure in the Amway business.

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    1. Anonymous - most Ambots are too embarrassed to admit how much money they lost in Amway and that they got scammed. Arrogant prick should be more worried about disobeying the Amway cult leaders by reading this blog and helping bump it up in the search engines by leaving a comment.

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  22. I have been recently recruited to the "world wide group" I drug my boyfriend to all the "industry briefings", and had him buy me business clothes, bc I had none. However I want to point out to all the people doing their research-( before your allowed to try for a position in their company) they didn't ask me for any money yet. That was fine, I liked their emphasis on family values and the mindset that you need to be in. ( the more you give-anybody-even strangers- the more you make). But nobody would mention anything about recruiting or selling yet. Well spring leadership is coming up- they say John Maxwell will be there. Supposedly the event is not for profit and they bring in a representative from Amway to talk about products in order to write off their taxes. This years there is Spring Leadership in Spokane WA April 7,8,9 2017
    They have asked me and my boyfriend if 2 yrs that we can't stay together bc we aren't married.. ok and the tickets to your first big event must be free bc they said we only need $80 per person 40 for a hotel room I will share will 10 ppl and 40 for gas- we all carpool bc it's only a 6 hr drive. All the diamonds will be flying though. All this sounded great, except I go online to read reviews on their company and there are negative review everywhere. the world wide group says they don't recruit and you don't have to sell anything- well where is the money coming from then. I don't feel too cheated bc we decided not to go to the conference. But I stared to believe in what they were saying. All these 21 yr old retired people. And I got my hopes up. I didn't actually go to the spring leadership but there was a prep meeting for it, and they gave me a schedule of what is happening for next weekend. All speakers and retired people have worked for their company. With one exception of John maxwell. I hope this helps anyone.

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    1. Hi Chelsey. Thanks for stopping by. Reading other people's experiences will help you make the best decision of your life. Staying away from Amway. We share our experiences of financial losses and being abused by the assholes in the Amway upline and hope that others do not make the same mistake.

      World Wide Group also known as WWDB or World Wide Destructive Bastards. They are about the worst and the most abusive Amway cult sect out there.

      As for "family values". OK let me get started. Amway corporation donates heavily to a group that is all about "family values". Good tax write off and this group probably is what Amway's owners believe in. Remember the trouble Betsy Bitch got in a few months ago with her name on the directors and whining Mommy must have done that. Focus on Family (I think that's their name or similar wording) are all about what they believe to be "traditional" families. This means a married man and woman and their kids and going to church. And so on and so forth. You have already become a victim of the Amway cult by insisting that you can not share a hotel room with your boyfriend. Amway Ambots are all a bunch of prudes by the way. Just tell them to fuck off and you'll stay in whatever hotel with whoever you want. That's just part of putting up with the Amway cult's beliefs and twisted religion. What if you were in a gay relationship? Amway will still take your money but you won't proceed anywhere up the pyramid because you're not "traditional". Amway cult followers hate that gay marriage has become legal and they hate couples who live together who aren't married. You've already started to become a victim of that hatred. Stick in the Amway cult long enough and they'll force you to break up with your unsupportive unchristian dream stealing boyfriend because nothing brings those Amway bastards more happiness than destroying other people's relationships.

      John Maxwell shows up at many Amway functions. He's a paid speaker.

      Anyone who tells you Amway functions are not for profit is a fucking liar. The Amway functions are a major source of income for the Diamonds who speak at these functions. That's the bulk of their Amway income - from ticket sales.

      As for 10 people in a hotel room you'll be lucky if that's all there is. How many Amway Ambots can you cram in a room? First off most hotel rooms have max occupancy, let's say we're talking a regular hotel room with 2 beds. Probably is max 3 or 4 adults or if its a couple traveling with 3 children they might be allowed all in one room instead of booking 2 hotel rooms. You can phone the hotel and let them know of this Amway scheme to overpopulate the hotel room or phone the fire department because it probably violates some fire safety code too.

      Don't believe the bullshit and lies about retired 21 year old people. If their last name ain't DeVos or VanAndel that is not true! Go to enough Amway functions and you'll see its the same Diamonds over and over from back to the 70's it's the same old tired crew showing up. There are no 21 year olds. They're older couples who can not retire. They have to keep showing up to scam the Ambots so the money still rolls in for them sitting at the top of the pyramid.

      Smart move. Do not go to Amway WWDB Spring Leadership and stay the hell away from all Amway losers. They're only out to scam you and bring emotional and financial distress to your life.

      Good luck to you.

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  23. I was being attempted by my daughter's boyfriend's parents few month back. They have been with WWDB for almost four years. At the beginning, they kept referring their business as "leadership mentor-ship organization", and mom even mentioned that they will have his son to join their business when he turns 16 and travel around the world. It was very mysterious to me that what type of businesses they were involved in. Few things to notes about what they claim:
    - it's all about who you know
    - dream big, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with chasing for luxurious life. because ultimate goal is to reach luxurious life, then help other people to achieve their dream
    - John Maxwell speeches
    - It is legal
    - many more...

    anyway, I finally figured out that they were part of amway/wwdb, and told them that "it does not match with my moral standard, and therefore, I am not interested in this."

    apparently, my answer completely pissed them off, and dad said to me in very rude manner that I have deeply offended them.

    well, the kids are no longer together now luckily. I am curious to know that how long people usually stay in this crap and feeling good them-self, and dreaming about rich life by doing un-ethical things to other people? do they not realize that this is absolutely not moral/ethical? (legal vs ethical are two separate concept, just because it is legal, does not make it morally or ethically right.)

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Well lucky for you that you no longer have to deal with this Amway bullshit!

      Everything you said just lends more support to Amway is the Cult of Greed.

      And good for you to say Amway doesn't match your moral standard.

      Only the very best liars and scammers who have no morals or conscience have a hope in hell to be the tiny fraction of 1% of Amway IBO's who make some money.

      The first thing Ambots do is be very secret and mysterious about the cult's name. The A word shall never be spoken and that's because Amway and the antics of their Ambots have such a bad reputation.

      Most Ambots stay in Amway for a few months before they realize they got scammed and have no chance of signing up more suckers and making money and they quit. Amway was forced to admit in a legal proceeding that 95% of participants quit within 2 years.

      So that tells us anyone who stays in longer is likely a lifer in the Amway cult.

      There's a free ebook called Merchants of Deception that's on the right side of this page. Download it and read this real life horror story. And then tell your daughter to read it. And make sure she doesn't get involved with anyone in the Amway cult. And she's young enough to get prospected sometime in the net 10 years.

      You don't want her going through financial and emotional distress. Do what you have to to make sure she stays away from Amway and any other scam MLM groups.

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    2. Dear Anonymous --

      The family you have described is the typical "CORE" family in Amway. These are the truly committed and fanatical members who treat Amway like a religion.

      You are very lucky to have escaped from their clutches. It's seems to me that the parents of your daughter's boyfriend were probably instrumental in causing the breakup. After speaking to you, they most likely decided that they couldn't trust you to be part of the Amway cult's "CORE" group.

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    3. Thanks Anna for replying to me and allowing me to vent. You are absolutely right. In fact, the parents instrumented breakup in the past 4-5 month (after I said no to their recruitment). My daughter wanted to talk to me about a month ago; she said she feels like she is not being accepted by his parents. Multiple times, her and boy planned weekend activity, then the boy comes back to tell her that his parents said he is not allowed. The last ridiculous episode was, two kids arranged to meet at their community playground which is literally half minute walking distance from his home in a gated community, and his parents did not allow him to go out. And that's a full indication of the parents instrumented this breakup. And yet, the boy’s parents are accusing me that I tried to influence kids’ relationship, and I offended them deeply.

      This whole situation is a complete non-sense and I feel sorry for my daughter that she invested her time and emotion into someone who do not deserve her. On the other hand, I feel relieved that she has no more ties to this family.

      You answered one thing that I have puzzled for long time. I tried to tell myself that boy's parents probably are also victims. However, the more I think about, less convincing to me of this point. They have decent education with moderate life; they could have lived moderate/happy life. Yet, they are in this "leadership mentor-ship organization" and being part of culting other innocent people in order to reach their “dream” life. This only leads me to believe that they made conscious decision to do what they do as "CORE" of this BS group. And it does not sound like they will withdraw from this BS any time soon. In fact, after I declined their recruitment, mother had mentioned that “I am more determined to dedicate my time and effort into this business”. And, this business IS their religion, no doubt about it.

      I also feel sorry for this boy; he seems is a decent kid but being influenced by his non-sense parents. It is absolutely insane idea that parents planning to have him involved in this BS once he turns 16, while he should really be focused on education at this stage of his life. My daughter mentioned to me that the boy once told her that “he has some secret plan once he turns 16, so she doesn’t need to worry about anything financially”. I told my daughter that this is one of the biggest warning sign. First, girls should be independent psychologically and financially, never rely on a male for support. Second, he does not even fully understand this secret plan will get him to nowhere. I really hope that one day he will do his own research to find all the truth about MLM BS.

      Thank you very much Anna for having this site around so that people can find real truth about this non-sense. And, allowing someone like me to vent as well :-)

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  24. Thanks Anna for replying to me and allowing me to vent. You are absolutely right. In fact, the parents instrumented breakup in the past 4-5 month (after I said no to their recruitment). My daughter wanted to talk to me about a month ago; she said she feels like she is not being accepted by his parents. Multiple times, her and boy planned weekend activity, then the boy comes back to tell her that his parents said he is not allowed. The last ridiculous episode was, two kids arranged to meet at their community playground which is literally half minute walking distance from his home in a gated community, and his parents did not allow him to go out. And that's a full indication of the parents instrumented this breakup. And yet, the boy’s parents are accusing me that I tried to influence kids’ relationship, and I offended them deeply.

    This whole situation is a complete non-sense and I feel sorry for my daughter that she invested her time and emotion into someone who do not deserve her. On the other hand, I feel relieved that she has no more ties to this family.

    You answered one thing that I have puzzled for long time. I tried to tell myself that boy's parents probably are also victims. However, the more I think about, less convincing to me of this point. They have decent education with moderate life; they could have lived moderate/happy life. Yet, they are in this "leadership mentor-ship organization" and being part of culting other innocent people in order to reach their “dream” life. This only leads me to believe that they made conscious decision to do what they do as "CORE" of this BS group. And it does not sound like they will withdraw from this BS any time soon. In fact, after I declined their recruitment, mother had mentioned that “I am more determined to dedicate my time and effort into this business”. And, this business IS their religion, no doubt about it.

    I also feel sorry for this boy; he seems is a decent kid but being influenced by his non-sense parents. It is absolutely insane idea that parents planning to have him involved in this BS once he turns 16, while he should really be focused on education at this stage of his life. My daughter mentioned to me that the boy once told her that “he has some secret plan once he turns 16, so she doesn’t need to worry about anything financially”. I told my daughter that this is one of the biggest warning sign. First, girls should be independent psychologically and financially, never rely on a male for support. Second, he does not even fully understand this secret plan will get him to nowhere. I really hope that one day he will do his own research to find all the truth about MLM BS.

    Thank you very much Anna for having this site around so that people can find real truth about this non-sense. And, allowing someone like me to vent as well :-)

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    1. Hi Anonymous.

      Hey yeah come back any time to vent!

      Amway preys on the disadvantaged like minimum wage workers, disabled, new immigrants etc by offering them hope that they can improve their lifestyle.

      Amway is an equal opportunity scammer and will also prey upon those who make a nice living because they can scam even more money out of them. Ambots love it when they get career people like cops or dentists because then they can brag and gloat to newcomers that Amway must be legitimate otherwise these type of people would never get involved.

      Your daughter is very young. She's going to have several boyfriends over the next 10 years. She doesn't need a boyfriend whose parents are broke Amway losers and grooming him to be another broke Amway loser.

      Nobody needs a fucking Amway asshole in their life!

      Stay away from Amway losers!

      They all think they're going to be rolling in bazillions of dollars in the next 2 to 5 years and walking the beaches of the world with other Ambots.

      Amway is all about sell the hope not the soap. Amway is all about recruiting new victims. Amway is a pyramid scheme. A legal pyramid scheme because they have stuff for sell. Overpriced shitty products that no one outside the Amway cult actually wants to buy and use but that wampum is the only thing that keeps Amway from being an illegal pyramid scheme.

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    2. Absolutely agree with you Anna!
      I would never ever want to hear that sickening words "dream big!"

      I wanted to know why so many MLM/Amway/WWDB are legal, found the following few videos by Steve Hassan. Sharing here so that more people can see it. The fourth video explains part of political reasons why MLM is legal.

      Hassan Amway Motivational Cult interview Part 1
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApMzIX46kw

      Hassan Amway Motivational Cult interview Part 2
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2kQii3WC9Y

      Hassan Amway Motivational Cult interview Part 3
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZsjUWf9O0

      Steve Hassan "MLM Exposed"
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOSzJUtMQzk

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    3. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for the links. Sometimes we use links to his site because he also does cult interventions. He’s very familiar with the Amway cult.

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    4. :-) that sounds great!
      Thanks Anna!

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  25. Dear Anonymous --

    It's clear, from what you have said, that this boy's parents are definitely Amway CORE. Their fanaticism is very plain to see -- they don't want your daughter to be anywhere near their son. They value his connection to their MLM much more than they value his happiness.

    It's better that your daughter has split from this unfortunate young guy. He too has been brainwashed totally by the Amway fake dream, and at the young age of sixteen! This is really horrible.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous!
      I absolutely agree with you.
      I feel silly of myself, because at one point I event thought maybe I can help him

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If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
10. Your comment got caught in the spam filter. Gets checked occasionally. We’ll get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isn’t spam.