My story of what its like to be married to an Amway cult follower. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. Feel free to join in or live vicariously!
Tuesday, February 9, 2016
Taxes Are A Sign Of Success - Unless You’re A Brainwashed Amway Ambot
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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!
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So a friend of mine liked this post that showed up on my newsfeed.
ReplyDeleteIt is from ACN Australia which is becoming a lot bigger here and has more visibility than Amway in my opinion.
Feels very much some of the points are blame the victim, namely those that put in the effort. Those that don't do anything and fail it is a little hard to feel sorry for. Those that put effort in only to be told that they are at fault - well that is really depressing.
Anyways here is the ACN Post
List of popular excuses of why people quit:
No one helped me - you didn't come to training
No one would become my customer - you didn't follow the outline in what to say
I ran out of people to talk to - no, you ran out of people you are comfortable to talk to
I don't know anyone - go meet someone
No one had the money - you didn't create enough value for them to get the money
I don't like my up line - you are your up line
A customer service agent had an attitude with my customer - learn how to deal with and handle the problem and get past it. The company will discipline them and fire them if necessary.
There is no local training to me - you have online training
I don't have a house to have a PBR - that's why you have a website and conference calls
I don't have Computer or internet - your library does and it's free
No one wanted to do the Buisness with me - get better so they want to
Everyone I talk to already knew about it - expand your circle
I'm not a people person - change
I'm lazy - your right
I tried it, but it didn't work - no, you didn't work...and you can't "try" to do something and succeed at it
It was too hard - no, you didn't develop the skills for it to be easy
My family was negative - so is everyone's.
My wife said, "it's either me or the business" - I'm sure she did with the amount of excuses you make....she's the one that has to listen to them
I lost focus - you stopped coming to training
I have a wife and kids - so do most people
I have a full time job - so do most people
No one would follow the system on my team - your team didn't follow you BC your not followable "yet"
You say, I'm not making an excuse BUT,..... - that's an excuse
I didn't have money to get to convention - I feel you...me either, I had to sell all my stuff, borrow It, and work my butt of for it.
Hi Mathew - thanks for the list. Yes these are similar to what every scam MLM out there uses as comeback responses to overcome rejections to their product/service. Heard most of them when we were in Scamway. Its part of the late night teachings, Amway cult leaders call them night owls or other names.
DeleteAnd as you pointed out, they all add up to its a blame the victim scam.
LOL on: "I'm lazy - your right". How is your right a comeback response. The asshole might as well have said "your mother wears army boots". LOL!
I don't know much about ACN but a few years ago a news show did cover this scam and the meetings are just like Amway cult meetings. You know worship the leader, spend money, rah rah hype, and everyone's gonna get rich. I think the sign up was $500 and the sales rep made .50 cents commission for every sucker he signed up but I don't recall what that $500 got you. Some kind of cell phone plan scam.
Another LOL is when our sack of shit Platinum got fired from Amway a few years ago he defected to Monavie and took as many downline with him as he could and I think he got enough to defect that it probably threw everyone above him out of qualification for Emerald or Diamond or whatever. It was a big enough dent in sales. So one of the fucking assholes in our Amway upline didn't go to Monavie but signed up for ACN instead. And was bugging my Ambot about signing up. You know its like these MLM scammers think once they've got a live one open to these scams that they'll be open to another one because we got bugged by our sack of shit Platinum and the fucking asshole who signed us up to Amway both trying to sell us on Monavie. Or "us" is the wrong word. They only pitched my husband but I got a bulk email from the sack of shit Platinum that I replied all and cursed him out.
Once a scammer always a scammer, just a different scam company to rep.
Mathew's list is very revealing.
ReplyDeleteIt shows that for MLMs, the fixed idea is that "success is inevitable for those who follow our plan properly and in every detail."
If this fixed idea is accepted, then failure can NEVER be the result of flaws in the plan. It must always be the fault of the individual.
This is like saying that if you drive your car safely and properly, obeying every single traffic regulation, you won't get into an accident. Tell that to the thousands of careful drivers who were maimed or killed by other drivers.
The MLM idea seems to be that "faith and perseverance will always be successful in the long run." It is an absurd and silly viewpoint.
Hi Anonymous. Yeah that was a good list. It's always good to get stuff like that out there on the Internet so people know what they're up against when they're being prospected by a scam MLMer.
DeleteYeah right on the faith and perseverance. Amway cult leaders preach to their followers that as long as they show up for every Amway meeting and tithe the Great Amway God that in 2 years bazillions of dollars in residual income will be rolling in because they stuck with the cult.
What the hell is Monavie? I heard that they try to push some sort of exotic tropical fruit juice.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone join a MLM to buy juice?
Anonymous - in addition to overpriced juice Monavie also sells "training" and "leadership" tools. Just like the Amway tool scam. In fact its former Amway Diamonds running that show at Monavie too. It's the place where Amway defectors run to.
DeleteDefecting from an abusive mlm to another mild-mannered mlm does not change the state of an ambot. They are still liars, wearing fake smiles and still gives bad advice to the disadvantaged.
DeleteAnonymous - to hear those dumb fuck Amway defectors Monavie has the best compensation plan out of every MLM out there and the best products yada yada yada. These same bastards who were loving Amway are now hating on it.
DeleteThat's why accountants, tax consultants and financial planners will shut their doors if an ambot comes by for an advice.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - everyone should shut their doors on Amway Ambots!
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