Thursday, November 23, 2017

Warning Signs Of The Amway Cult

I was trying to find a web site that might help spouses, family, and friends of Amway cult followers.

The Cult Information Center is a British group but they provide a page that has links to groups worldwide that assist people in dealing with cult exit strategies and help for families.

Here is their list of signs that an organization has cult characteristics:

  1. Has there been strong pressure for me to join or to stay?
  2. Am I being pressured to recruit others?
  3. Are my doubts and questions discouraged, avoided, or even forbidden?
  4. If I’m critical of the group, am I told there’s something wrong with me?
  5. Do I not have an opportunity to verify information provided by the group?
  6. Am I expected to reveal fears and secrets?
  7. Does the group’s leadership dictate how I should act, think, or feel?
  8. Do I not get enough sleep now or have enough time to devote to outside pursuits and responsibilities?
  9. Am I made to feel fear or guilt when I don’t do exactly as my leader or elders in the group told me?
  10. Have I lost my old friends?
  11. Have I missed important family occasions because I was encouraged to be with fellow group members instead or given an urgent task to complete?
  12. Is there a belief that the leader has special powers?
  13. Have I been promised things by the group that have yet to materialize?
  14. Was I told that joining this group was my only path to happiness, peace, God, or even prosperity?

Wow! Talk about summarizing our Amway experience!

Here’s my answers:
  1. The pressure was on to join. “Now is the time to sign up with Amway. Its about to explode on the Internet. You want to get in now.” Seeing as how we’d already tried Amway once before and I wasn’t interested in losing money again I suggested to Ambot that we wait and see how his friend Captain Fuck Up made out. If that fuck up was doing good after a few months then that might be proof to me that things are different in Amway. Ambot was mad. He’d already been sneaking around meeting the cult leaders and had all the canned responses. We were going to miss out BIG if we didn’t sign up now and get in while the getting in was good. After a few months the pressure was on to stay. “You can’t quit now. Not when success is right around the corner and you’re about to go really BIG!”
  2. Ha ha! That goes without saying. That’s what Amway is about. Recruiting other IBO’s and tricking suckers into going to Amway meetings.
  3. Absolutely! “Never question upline!”
  4. That’s another big yes. “Don’t speak negative!” unless of course you're an unchristian, negative dream stealer who is a loser with a J.O.B. and worse than that a broke loser!
  5. “Don’t search on the Internet. Its full of lies and you can’t believe anything you read there.”
  6. Yes. Your upline wants to know EVERYTHING so they can use it against you later on.
  7. Another big yes! You’re told to dress in business attire, drive high end vehicles, carry cell phones, do whatever it takes to project a successful image. Fake it till you make it!
  8. Sleep! Ha! “You’ll have time to sleep when you’re dead!” Amway meetings start at 8pm. Then there are meetings after the meeting. You’ll be lucky to get to bed by 1am but usually later than that. Forget about anything else in your life that doesn’t have anything to do with Amway.
  9. Oh yes! You must ask upline’s permission before doing anything! If you don’t you will be the subject of ranting and raging at the next Amway meeting. Plus you’ll be harassed with phone calls, text messages, and emails criticizing you for doing your own thing. The Amway cult leader is a person to be worshipped and feared.
  10. Yes, your old friends don’t want nothing to do with you anymore because you’re prospecting them to come to Amway meetings, sign up as an IBO, or buy overpriced Amway shit. They’ll avoid you like the plague!
  11. Family occasions? Forget about them if there’s an Amway meeting scheduled or someone upline wants you to drop everything and kiss their ass.
  12. Yes. Upline were displayed as having these magical powers to be successful in Amway and if you spent time with them and learned from them and duplicated them you would have these secret magic powers too.
  13. Ha, ha. Makes me laugh again! Another big yes. Amway is full of promises (broken ones) and dreams (shattered ones).
  14. Yes. We were going to have Amway residual income rolling in for the rest of our lives. And if that didn’t happen we were going to be nicer people!

Let’s just send out another big old FUCK YOU to Amway and all the fucking assholes in the Amway upline.


  1. Amway is what many astute commentators are starting to call "a business cult." In fact, the Chinese government is having a very big problem right now with a proliferation of these "business cults."

    These cults disguise themselves as "business opportunities," but are in fact nothing but get-rich-quick pyramid schemes that target young and vulnerable persons just out of college, or who are at loose ends.

    Business cults operate as mind-and-behavior-control systems. Once you are signed up and brainwashed, the entire focus of the cult is to keep you in, and keep you contributing funds.

    Amway is merely the grandfather of all these business cults. Everything in Amway can be reduced to three words: CONTROL, CONTROL, CONTROL.

    1. Anonymous - I'd think in China's case any money going to the Amway pyramid scheme is less money to them.

      Amway: sign up, get brainwashed, hand over all your money to the Great Amway God.

      And then spend a lifetime living the lifestyle of the broke and stupid Ambot: lie, deny, distract and defend. And then hopefully disappear.

  2. Absolute cult through and through. I can attest to it as I wasted not only 3 years of my life with them, but wasted so much money. I'm so glad we left right before our first child was born because I am sickened to think we would have stayed and had to leave my baby several nights for those stupid board plans, second looks, and those boring dragging functions with "concerts" that I couldn't stand year after year. It makes me mad now thinking how brain washed we were and how upline kept twisting the truth about what we were really doing, putting the blame on us about not moving pin levels and so we stayed because we were made to believe that we just needed to work harder. The more that time goes on, the more I realize just how ridiculous the whole thing is because the brainwashing and conditioning has finally worn off. I visit this site every once in a while because I want to vent or be able to nod and agree with others who have left. My husband doesn't even like to talk about it and just wants to forget it and move on. He resents that our upline advised us to lease a car which in the end ends up costing us more because of the insurance premiums and limit on mileage which we went over for driving to functions and events. Yeah, they didn't tell us about the insurance premiums or the fact that it ended up being more expensive for us to lease than buy a car. They were just regurgitating what their upline said without actually doing it themselves. I can't believe how we were taught to just accept everything they told us and to "not question upline." It's a disservice to the uniqueness, independence, and free choice of humanity.

    1. Hi Ex Amway WWDB - thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad you got out of Scamway before having kids so you didn't destroy their lives too. Yup as soon as you get away from Amway assholes you can deprogram yourself and realize what you went through was not normal. Amway is a cult.

  3. I'd also like to add to my previous comment.

    I hate now that whenever we are out in public and someone or a couple is friendly to us and is trying to start a conversation, I'm wary that they are trying to "drop the message" or trying to recruit us into Amway. Can't even feel like people truly just want to talk anymore.

    1. I hear what you're saying. Ambots are fakey nice and fake pretending to be interested in others. Just to make a buck. And it makes you suspicious whether new people you meet are really nice people or if they're Amway Ambots.


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