Tuesday, June 5, 2018

Ambots Anonymous


There are some Amway IBO’s who read blogs and books written by former IBO’s who are critical because we don’t use our real names and seem to think that if someone doesn’t use their real name that undermines their experience or is a lack of credibility and therefore anything these anonymous posters have to say should be ignored.

I’ll see if I can shed some light on that. The main reason is fear of retaliation from IBO’s just like yourself.

Many people have read EricScheibeler’s ebook called Merchants of Deception but not everyone knows he originally wrote the book under the pseudonym John Jacob. He received death threats against himself and his family when he was filing complaints to Amway about the deception he’d uncovered with the tool scam. He continued to receive threats while researching the book and after publication. So who is he getting death threats from? The mafia? The Secret Service? A CEO at a Fortune 500 company who’s never heard of Amway? Other authors jealous of his writing success? Amway execs or their hired guns? Or is it more likely that death threats are coming from otherwise seemingly normal people like teachers, waiters, cashiers, and electricians who have one thing in common: they’re Amway IBO’s. Worshippers of the Great Amway God. Too many IBO’s are over the top defensive of what they perceive to be the world’s greatest business opportunity made available to them by what they perceive to be the world’s most awesome company. Just goes to show what brainwashing can do.

Anyone who’s read Merchants of Deception knows that IBO’s sidled up to Scheibeler at business meetings and said they’d show their devotion to their beloved Diamond by dieing for him or killing for him. They would eliminate anyone who threatened the Amway lifestyle if their upline asked them to. Scheibeler describes threatening phone calls that his young son and wife received and noises in the bushes where he believed someone was lurking waiting to take him out.

If he knew who was making the threats, he didn’t say but obviously these were over zealous IBO’s who didn’t want anyone getting the truth out there about Amway and causing the downfall of their expected financial freedom.

Joecool has blogged about receiving threats from an anonymous IBO from Scarborough Canada. You don’t know what kind of nut is hiding on the other end of a computer keyboard but this one has left comments threatening physical violence if Joecool does not stop blogging about Amway. Anonymous from Scarborough has dropped by this blog a few times to leave nutty comments but nothing threatening. He must find someone cursing out their upline and describing what went on at Amway meetings somewhat amusing but not a threat to his Amway lifestyle. 

Just because I have not received threats doesn’t mean I’m not aware it could happen. I would be OK putting my real last name out there but that leaves me open for some brainwashed IBO to show up at my house with a grenade. I don’t name my upline other than referring to them as fucking assholes, shitheads, bastards, etc. And these are arrogant bastards who love the sound of their own voices and the glory of being in Amway. They’d probably love to be mentioned but that’s not the purpose of this blog to name little guy Ambots because its really fucking embarrassing to admit you’re in Amway. Besides the posts here are penned by different people with different uplines. My upline is everyone’s upline. They all say the same things and they all act like they’re the Great Amway God’s gift to humanity. Arrogant pricks.

In this part of the world we have freedom of speech and should be able to express ourselves without fear. Its not against the law to have an opinion and its not against the law to curse someone out. Our Platinum did that all the time at Amway meetings ridiculing his downline IBO’s. Sticks and stones. He’s not being a believer of turnabout is fair play and would be outraged if anyone wasn’t properly worshipping him. That sack of shit might not like it but its not against the law curse him out or tell the truth about him.

Have I mentioned lately how much Amway and their Ambots hate the 1st Amendment!

Obsessed Amway IBO’s do not like the truth getting out there about the Amway business opportunity. They’d be the first to deny that anything described in Merchants of Deception could really happen and probably think the author just has an overactive imagination or is overly paranoid. Likewise there’d be Ambots unhappy over the way I describe my upline instead of giving them the devotion and love they think they deserve. I can see as how they’re not happy with my interpretation of what goes on at Amway meetings and functions.

Over the top obsessive Amway losers are why we stay anonymous because we are concerned for our personal safety and for our families.

People take steps to ensure their safety. Everyone has different comfort levels. I have a monitored alarm system in my house and we sleep with a loaded gun in the bedroom. We had these measures in place before getting involved in Amway and now that we’re former IBO’s and I blog about our experiences you can be damned sure I’m not changing our security. You just never know when an outraged Amway IBO is going to show up on the doorstep. And that's just our Platinum......!!!!



16 comments:

  1. I think it is probably for the best that you don't use your real name. Your blog has a real impact on Amway and WWDB and IBO's and potential in the midst of being recruited almost IBO's, you know never know what a current IBO, fuelled by frustration and energetically electrified by those strange unhealthy dye laden energy drinks might be capable of.

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    1. Anonymous - one of our bananas had written about helping out behind the scenes here and ended up with a cyberstalker and police involvement. Plus how many dumb fuck IBOs leave comments on this blog trying to recruit us!

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    2. Trying to recruit you from this blog lol....Someone tried to me recruit me (to Amway) again several weeks ago, at the same job from which I was recruited before. I don't want to say what I do for work right now because it might narrow down who I am and my former upline might read this lol. Not that I fear any violence or anything (my up line seemed pretty harmless in regards to physical violence, only emotional violence lol), I just don't want to fuel their snotty attitudes and put downs. Thus I post as anonymous.

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    3. Hey Anonymous. Most people do post as Anonymous and that's fine. Unless you're doing something creepy like the Amway Masturbator. What's really funny are the Amway losers who leave comments about how much money they're making and want to recruit us and post anonymously. If you're making big bucks at the Amway scam you'd think you'd like to get your name out there for bragging rights cause Ambots love bragging. Also just in case someone reading this blog is fucking stupid enough to want to sign up to Scamway then they have a contact. It's pretty tough to contact someone trying to recruit people when they post anonymously! LOL! But those Amway losers haven't figured that one out yet.

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  2. Anna,

    I have seen a lot of things as I live in a little town in Wisconsin called Eagle.

    We have a park in the middle of town and any Ambot is welcome to come and meet me!

    Course I am in with the police as we look after each other in our little town.

    Ambots and their elk shall be run out on a rail as come on here and make threats to me as please do!

    We have a fine little community here and you can sell Amway here but threats and intimidation? Bring it!

    I will publish my name and address here if need be as I shall trust in our dear local police to protect against threats as that is how community works.

    Fuck Amway and their Ambots

    K

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    1. Stay safe and keep your sanity in tact Anna. Wish best of luck!

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    2. Hi KMB. Happy times in Wisconsin! Sorry to say I have no idea of what is where in that state. Small town life sounds idyllic to get away from the big city but do they really welcome newcomers.

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  3. Most Amway types don't have the balls for actual violence. There are dozens of anti-Amway and anti-MLM blogs like this one, and no Ambot has dared to try physical violence against any of the authors. These guys are just soap-salesmen, not Rambos.

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    1. Anonymous - Amway Ambots are bullies and like most bullies they usually end up being shitless cowards. I have too much contempt for Amway losers for any of them to mess with me!

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  4. Copy cats also...They tried to sound nice, but they're actually have tons of hidden motives and always having at least one or two things that is hypocritical about themselves. Btw there's an ambot that said "borrow credibility" and I bet he doesn't know how to do it right. How much I bet you it's a way to pretend of something they're not? Most of these bots don't have a decent reason to post a point where they need it at as it sounded too broad and general to get any where. Symbiotic Consignment. They're never ever specific about anything while discussing what they're concluding with.

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  5. People leaving and recovering from cultic religions often face the same issues--they must remain anonymous or face retribution from the cult members. All MLM is like this, not just Amway. I have a pal who dared to use his real name to speak out about MLM on facebook and ended up that the MLM cult followers went to his yelp page to post false reviews of his real business. Same thing happened to another gal I heard about--she had told someone soliciting MLM in her coffeeshop that MLM wasn't allowed, no soliciting on the property, and they turned around and went to her yelp page to post bad reviews. This happens all the time. ALL of the major MLM activists are anonymous for very good reasons.

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    1. Howdeedoo - that’s really true of any cult. The cultists become enraged when someone leaves their cult and become vicious in their attacks including as you pointed out leaving fake bad reviews if the defector owns a business. Now if they were a real customer and posted a truthful account of their experience that’s a whole different thing. The business owner can sue someone who posted a fake review but people don’t usually post under a real name. And 2 the cult followers are probably broke and it would only be a hollow victory.

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  6. My neighbors are ex Ambots and I told them what it was 10 years ago!

    They are out now and I see new cars in the drive way as no more money spent on the cult!

    The neighbors just re-landscaped the yard as again one has a lot more money not spending it on cult activity!

    K

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    1. You’re right KMB. Once you get out of the Amway cult you can start getting your finances and life back under control.

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  7. Thanks for this blog. I recently had an Ambot try to recruit me, he was good at it too. I started a business a couple of years ago and I was at a networking meeting when another owner of a local (legit) business started chatting me up. Seemed like a nice guy, said he likes to help new business owners and thought we should meet up for coffee. Cool, I thought, never hurts to talk to other business owners, always open to advice. Meet with him, never a mention of Amway, only spoke about business, goals, etc. He suggested I then read a book called "The Go - Giver" and attend a meeting with him in a couple of nights to "meet other like minded people who enjoy exchanging ideas on business and help each other grow, similar to the theme of the book."

    Cool, I thought, always good to network and meet other business owners (notice his clever wording, "like minded people" not business owners I realized this in hindsight). Pull up to this meeting and am shocked at the number of people attending, I thought it was more of an intimate setting of successful business people. I go in, start introducing myself, there are a bunch of people, but no business owners. I thought that was weird and started to get an unsettled feeling, walk into a living room stuffed full of chairs and see a white board..ok, really weird. Guy who invited me starts talking, mostly about business philosophy. He then starts asking people where they work and proceeds to follow up with "Do you like it there, who wants to do that forever". Well, that is just odd, why would you trash other people's professions, maybe they like their employer. He then trashes his own, legit, business saying how he hates working on projects and his clients. Then, at the end, he starts talking about "how this business works" and lays out a "store" and how he is retiring in 3 years. Oh, DAMN IT, this cat suckered me into an Amway meeting. I get up to go to the bathroom (and leave) only to find my car is literally blocked in...Yep, the dude had people park at an angle behind me so I couldn't leave...Anyway, meeting ends, I shake hands and sit in my car for 20 minutes until the other suckers move their car and I can leave.

    Dude blows up my phone for 2 weeks trying to set up a "follow up" meeting, this time with me and my wife. To make matters worse, I had told him my wife works at the local school and he looked her up online and started emailing her at her school email (in fairness he CC'd me each time) I ended up having to call the Chamber of Commerce that sets up the networking meetings to complain and am told "this isn't the first complaint we got about him".

    Point of story, ask a lot of questions if someone is wanting to meet with you that you don't know, nobody does this for free. Crazy how they manipulate their intentions as they know if they mention Amway, nobody will meet with them. If you are in a "business" where you cannot say its name for fear of alienating people, might want to re-think your involvement.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by to share your story and update us that nothing ever changes in Amway!

      You had the usual Amway experience being tricked into a cult meeting.

      All Ambots want to meet for coffee. They want to get you in front of an entrepreneur they know who has really good ideas and is looking for some sharp like minded guys. LOL! They usually meet up at a fast food place.

      Blocking your car in so you can't leave is another Amway trick. Always park on the street. Ambots have a sense of entitlement that the rest of the world must wait for them and do whatever they want because they're in Amway and that makes them better than everyone else. Hence you waited 20 minutes for the inconsiderate son of a bitch to move his car.

      And Amway Ambots wonder why they have such a bad reputation as a bunch of fucking assholes!

      I'm sure you'll keep getting phone calls and texts from those Amway losers. Just tell them you're starting up a new business producing and starring in gay porno flicks and ask if they'd like to invest. Ambots are prudes so that will be the last you'll hear of them.

      You pointed out what we're always saying around here, if you're too embarrassed to say where you work then you need to rethink your employment.

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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
10. Your comment got caught in the spam filter. Gets checked occasionally. We’ll get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isn’t spam.