Spokane April 17 – 19, 2015
My story of what its like to be married to an Amway cult follower. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. Feel free to join in or live vicariously!
Monday, April 20, 2015
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Spokane April 17 – 19, 2015
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I'm currently an IBO but I would like to get out. I joined amway about 5 months ago, and I just came from a conference this weekend. The week before the conference I saw that I spent 2000-3000 dollars on amway's overpriced products. That honestly opened my eyes from this facade of a business. This weekend I realized how all these "leaders" teach you to lie to family and friends just to get their numbers and attention. My boyfriend was in it 2 months before me and got me to join. I was SO convinced and was actually brainwashed, until I saw all my spendings. I'm only a college student and I'm spending SO much. I don't know how I'm going to quit. I'm so worried and I don't know how I can convince my boyfriend about how this amway is a scam because he is so brainwashed and convinced. I don't know what to do and I don't know how I could let him wake up. I'm just so stuck, so far I've decided to stop attending meetings, I deactivated my ditto and returned a lot of the products.
ReplyDeleteMC - as I'm sure you've realized you'll never make back that money in Amway. Over $2000 in overpriced shitty Amway products sounds to me like the assholes in your Amway upline were pushing you to go for your 1000 PV pin and you singlehandedly did that in the month by running up your credit card. Very common Amway procedure and then the people who forced you to do that will sneer at you that you're a phony 1000 pin.
DeleteThe life of an Amway Ambot is to lie, deny, distract, and defend and those were the techniques you learned at that Amway conference you just got back from.
Just quit. Just go cold turkey. Don't go to any more Amway meetings, don't buy any more Amway shit. Don't answer their phone calls and texts. The boyfriend may be a tougher issue. Once the assholes in the Amway upline know you're out of the cult they'll do everything they can to break up your relationship.
Here's the thing. You're a student so that tells me you're still young enough to bounce back financially and from a potential broken heart. There will be other boyfriends in your future who will treat you better and won't haul you into an evil cult.
Look on the right side of this page for Amway links and you'll see a free ebook you can download called Merchants of Deception. Read it and it's like you're right there in the room with this former Emerald who was making $3000/month tops in Amway. Probably not the income you were told an Emerald makes right? Us neither. And he's not the only former Amway Emerald to his the Internet and say he only made around $30,000/year. Try to persuade your boyfriend to read that book too. Its a huge eye opener into how the Amway scam is run.
Also, I can't believe I've spent 2000-3000 dollars in the course of 5 months! It's ridiculous. My parents were very supportive of me but started to get upset over this because of the weekly meetings that I would come home late from (I live with them. I'm an off campus student.) Then they found out about the 2000-3000 dollars I've spent over the last months and that even made them much more upset and are now convinced that this is a scam. I was upset at first about what they said but I thought about it and they are right. I hate the fact that you are forced to attend meetings ALL THE TIME and push out whatever you have done. I have so much studying or commitments sometimes I can't make it and my boyfriend gets "upset" because we are supposed to get in it as a couple. It's SO ANNOYING. The people are so positive, but I just can't agree with the whole "fresh list of names" and "contacting random people" as well as pestering your family and friends. I've lost a couple friends by just showing them the plan or some of my family like my cousins act weird around me because they're afraid I would sell them more of these overpriced bullshit products that taste like shit, my cousins bought some products and are customers of mine but I believe they just didn't like the taste of the products and/or wasn't effective to them, although it's cool cause I just need to move on from that. Now there's another summer conference and I just came from one that was just SO much and I need to buy one more?! UGH. I just need to get out. I don't know about my boyfriend, I love him very much but I just don't know what to do. Thank you so much for this blog Anna. This is one of heck of a blog, and I'm glad to have found something I can relate to during this time of trouble I'm having as an IBO who just wants out. Thank you, thank you. If you have any advice for me as well as regarding what to do with my ambot boyfriend I would take any help and advice. Looking forward to your posts! :)
ReplyDeleteMC - Amway is a cult. Those cult meetings that you are forced to attend are to keep you brainwashed. You know what happens if you don't go or say you're not planning to go. You get shit from the assholes in your Amway upline.
DeleteYou figured it out - Amway sells overpriced shitty products. Nobody wants to buy them, unless they're a brainwashed Amway ambot. Amway's sales figures show only about 3% of sales are made to people who are not Amway IBO's so what does that tell you. A lot of Ambots are working overtime "buying from their own store" as preached by the Amway cult leaders.
Yup while you're still at an Amway conference the assholes in the Amway upline have their hands out wanting you to buy tickets for the next conference, in this case its Family Reunion held in the summer. And its more of the same bullshit of what you just saw.
I'm glad the blog is helping you. Of course everyone enjoys the part about cursing out people in Amway, but its a place of support, mostly for women but some men have also come here with the reverse problem - their wife is the ambot. You know you're not alone. The same stuff you're going through, we went through. Nothing every changes in Amway. Its all about emotional and financial devastation to the victims.
And don't fall for their "blame the victim" crap. They will sneer at you and say you didn't work the "business" hard enough. They'll say you didn't do it right. That you are a loser and a dream stealer and that you'll be holding your boyfriend back from being millionaire. It's all part of the cult brainwashing. Amway IBO's fail before it is a FLAWED PLAN. Once you get past the smiley "positive" bullshit and unrealistic circles drawn and do the math you can see why over 99% of those in Amway don't make money, and most lose it hand over fist. A business needs customers and if an Ambot is their only customer, then it can't make money. And who the hell BUT an Ambot will pay that kind of money for shitty products? Then the push becomes "recruit, recruit, recruit". And what is that normally called? Why, it's called a PYRAMID scam. And with all pyramids, only the top 1% who got in early make a dime. They feed off the 99% brainwashed people below them, as they talk of dreams and riches, all of which are lies and bullshit. It's the fantasy carrot they dangle at all the meetings to keep folks brainwashed into continuing to lose money. To keep recruiting people you would have to have no conscience and not care about dragging others into a destructive cult. And I can tell you are too good hearted a person to be a snake like they are.
DeleteBy getting out of Amway, you are NOT a loser. You wised up. Plain and simple. As for your boyfriend, if he doesn't break free of the grasp they have on him, as Anna said, they will certainly turn him against you, telling him that you are a loser and trying to steal his dreams and holding him back. That's how evil cults are. Just like a religious cult, it's all about control over their victim, and part of that is to drive a wedge between them and their family so that only the cult has any say into their thinking.
Good luck to you. You made the first step by realizing Amway for what it is. Don't look back. Get as far away from their control and deceit as possible.
And don't berate yourself for falling for a cult scam. They are damn good at twisting reality and words to make the impossible seem possible. That's why this scam has been around for so long.
Anonymous - its like you were in the same room with us listening to our sack of shit Platinum rant at my husband that I'm a lazy unchristian negative dreamstealer who is holding him back etc etc! Just trying to save our money from being wasted on tithing the Great Amway God, and spending it on our bills was enough to get the rage of the assholes in our Amway upline. The thing thise bastards fail to realize if someone doesn't like them then they have no control over that person. And of course those arrogant Amway bastards are under the false impression that the whole world loves and worships them. Reality check! I hold no brainwashed illusions like that.
DeleteI'm also part of the team URA. They make you think it's a good team but they're just like wwdb and all the other teams out there.
ReplyDeleteM - never heard of them but one Amway cult sect is the same as another. And they all go around saying negative about each other like WWDB sucks.
DeleteThank you so much for your words Anon, it's really helping me out too. As for my boyfriend he's stuck, but just today he told me how hard it is to keep up with a ditto. It's a step to help him get out of it too. But thank you guys for the support. I'd give you both hugs if I could haha
ReplyDeleteWe can send you virtual hugs. We've all been there.
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ReplyDeletekathy - doing anything in Calgary is better than going to an Amway function!
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