Tuesday, December 15, 2015

Amway Assholes Steal Everything You Have And What You Don’t Have Too



I was watching Dateline a rerun of a show they aired a couple of years or so ago. It’s the story of a man kidnapped in Mexico and his American born wife trying to raise the millions in ransom the kidnappers demanded. They lived in an ex pat community in Mexico called San Miguel which is an artist community. Anyway the couple on the show bought a run down ranch for a steal. All their money was tied up in the property and renovations. They weren’t rich people. Even if the ranch could be sold and she couldn’t sell it because it was in the husband’s name it would bring a few hundred thousand dollars only a fraction of the amount the kidnappers demanded. The wife did sell what she could, tractors and furniture and livestock if you can call lots of rabbits livestock, and she raised $20,000. She tried getting loans from banks and business owners and was turned down.

She’s certain her husband is going to be killed. Around the 7 month mark the kidnappers drastically reduced the ransom amount, but they weren’t allowed to disclose it on the show, but it seemed to be in the hundreds of thousands. And around that time two people who she hadn’t previously hit up for a loan approached her with offers of money and she was able to pay and her husband was released.

These are professional kidnappers, their group is well known in Mexico. One thing the woman said in the show was that these kidnappers take everything you have, and they want more, they want everything you don’t have too, and they’re out to destroy you.

Holy shit! You’d think she was talking about the fucking assholes in the Amway upline!

The Amway cult leaders want everything you have and they want everything you don’t have too. The Amway cult leaders are out to destroy you. WWDB = World Wide Destructive Bastards.

First they start with signing you up to the Amway cult. One year’s membership to their expensive shopping club plus a starter kit of shitty Amway products costs $170 according to a recent commenter who wisely saw Amway is a scam and didn’t sign up. That’s the start up fee to a whole bunch of misery and financial and emotional distress coming your way thanks to the assholes in your Amway upline. After you’ve paid the cult registration fee that gives you bragging rights like anyone wants them, to be called an IBO, a slick name Amway uses to fuck with the new follower’s minds to believe they are now an Independent Business Owner. BULLSHIT! More like commissioned salesperson. And right off the top the assholes in the Amway upline want the new recruit to earn their first commission check from Scamway and to do that they need to buy a minimum of 100PV around $300 worth of shitty overpriced Amway products. So the new recruit has just slapped at least $500 on a credit card that probably was already struggling to make the monthly payments on a huge balance but the assholes in the Amway upline fed him some bullshit about how Amway gets people out of debt.

The reality is the opposite. Hello debt thanks to Amway.

The new Ambot gets $10 commission from Amway after spending at least $500 just to sign up and buy 100 PV. FIRED UP!!!!! LOL!

But just like the kidnappers who want more more more so do the fucking assholes in the Amway upline. The ambot must now spend $50/month on membership to WWDB plus around $40/month to pretend they have a personal assistant named Kate, and around the same amount to buy in books and CDs. If a Diamond is coming to town that’s another $15 or $20 to buy a ticket to hear the fucker speak. And holy shit if there’s a major Amway function that month – could be in the hundreds after a ticket is bought, transportation, meals and hotel.

Out comes the credit card because the assholes in the Amway upline want everything you don’t have too and keeps pushing the ambot further into debt. They want to destroy you. World Wide Destructive Bastards.

Putting the sinking bank account and increasing credit card debt aside – what other ways do the fucking assholes in the Amway upline try to destroy you? The troublemaking bastards are next out to destroy your relationships. If you’re married and your wife, and yeah I’m being sexist here because its usually the man who gets sucked into Scamway, doesn’t want to “come onboard” with the Amway cult then the upline assholes go out of their way to destroy the marriage. Ripping families apart is one of the things the World Wide Destructive Bastards love to do. Don’t listen to their bullshit about how Amway saves marriages. There’s no statistics and its more likely that a marriage can’t survive the financial destruction and cult interference than be saved. Not only that but there’s several Diamonds who’ve divorced in recent years or about to be judging by the tons of searchers I get looking for information on Diamond’s girlfriend. Nosy troublemaking bastards. WWDB propaganda bullshit to cover the evil they plan to do. The assholes in the Amway upline want to remove the ambot from all outside influencers who can convince the ambot they’re being scammed. Friends, family and coworkers are all to be dropped. Though most ambot’s employers will drop them once their shitty Amway attitude invades the workplace.

What does an Amway ambot have in their future? Bankruptcy, unemployment, divorce, foreclosure, ruined relationships.

The assholes in the Amway upline are out to take everything the ambot has. And everything he doesn’t have. And they don’t stop until they’ve destroyed the Ambot’s life.

Financial and emotional distress is in the future of Amway Ambots. Not bazillions of dollars in monthly residual income after 2 to 5 years working part time in the Amway cult.

That’s the reality of being kidnapped by the Amway cult.

Amway will take everything you have. Amway will take everything you don’t have. Amway will destroy you.


39 comments:

  1. Anna, you are so right.

    Getting involved with Amway is like getting into debt to a Mafia loanshark. You will be drained dry of every cent you have, every piece of property you own, every single item of value you possess. Your greed-driven Amway up-line wants it all.

    And quite right -- Amway is utterly ruthless in destroying any relationship you might have that is
    "non-Amway." They don't want you talking to anyone with an independent mind or a different viewpoint. And they gleefully wreck marriages if a spouse is unwilling to acquiesce in a family's financial ruin.

    A Roman senator used to end every one of his speeches by saying "Carthage must be destroyed!"

    Let me end this post by saying the following: AMWAY MUST BE DESTROYED.

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    1. Anonymous - that's a good comparison - going into Amway debt and Mafia loanshark debt. It's like trying to figure out who's meaner to deal with - the fucking assholes in the Amway upline or a loanshark. Both will suck you dry and destroy you.

      Amway MUST be destroyed. Totally agree.

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  2. Spend $500 to get a puny $10!! Just apply a Cash Back Credit Card instead. It runs from 2 to 5% cash back.

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    1. Anonymous - that's right. If you're going to a join a buying club, go for the deluxe membership at Costco where you get money back based on your purchases. And at Costco things are reasonably priced and they sell products people actually want to buy. Amway's expensive buying club can't say that about themselves!

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  3. Hi Anna B. My heart is still broken regarding my daughter being sucked into this sinkhole of a cesspool. I see firsthand the enormous time that is required away from family as well as the outlandish amount of money required to be spent. The deceipt Amway is webbed in is phenomenal. Well, just really wanted to say hi and stay updated on the info you provide. Thanks for being committed to exposing these fucked organized crime bastards.

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    1. Hi there Living a Nightmare. Sorry to hear things are as bad as ever with your daughter. And yes Amway is a cesspool full of Amway sewer rats. Amway wants everything out of its cult followers. Money and time. If they're all spent on Amway then they're not spent anywhere else. Evil.

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  4. I receive many requests from AMBOTS who have a "fantastic business opportunity" they want me to hear. I always request that we meet at a local sandwich shop or a fancy bar that I enjoy. After half-heartedly listening to their shpeal and thinking to myself "what a moron this person is," I always request that they buy me a sandwich and/or a beer. After all, we are soon to be business partners, right? I always try to get as many drinks/food out of them as possible. I don't feel bad, they are the ones trying to screw me and they always tell me how "rich" they are so they can afford it. Idiots, all of them.

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    1. Hi schmi364 - thanks for stopping by. You have found the secret! Getting free food at your favorite eating places. But I guess there's really no such thing as a free meal is there because you have to put up with the ambot's bullshit Amspeak propaganda. When you call someone in Amway an idiot - you're being too kind. Ambots are worse than that!

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  5. Not gazillions of dollars in residual income but a residual loss. (Loss of money first then, loss of time and loss of friendship from true people)

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    1. Very true Anonymous. Huge residual loss for Amway victims in money, loss of time, and destroyed relationships. And other bad stuff too. The joys of belonging to the Cult of Greed.

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  6. Your uplines are wolves in sheep's clothing waiting to devour any unsuspecting downline. They seem to talk to you with heart but they "stab" you in the back like a sword.

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    1. That's right Anonymous. Those assholes in the Amway upline are out to rip you off and destroy you.

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  7. Hi Anna your blog has been very informative and entertaining for me. I have left a few comments but I wanted to mention a technique I saw being used that I haven't really seen discussed on your blog. I'm from Edmonton Alberta and of course there is a huge WWDB organization here headed up by Dean and Marcie Whalen. Dean seems to be pretty sharp and had figured out that anyone can access information about Amway and Ambots so he has literally started poking fun at Amway and Ambots saying they have no loyalty to the company. To me it's just reverse psychology and a new and to me even more devious way to lure prospects in that like myself have had a bad experience with Amway in the past. Just curious if anyone else out there in Edmonton has encountered this and thought the same as me....this market is getting saturated as now that I can see it there are Ambots at just about every coffee shop or bookstore I go to!

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Glad you're enjoying the blog. Yup that's what we set out to do here. Entertain and inform.

      No. Never heard of that "technique". Of course Dean is "sharp". So is every other Amway Ambot out there. Bragging rights. You know how Ambots try to prospect a sucker - I know a "sharp businessman" who is looking for other "sharp businessmen" to go into business with. And yes being sexist on purpose. Women are second class citizens when it comes to Amway. Oh who am I kidding. Women aren't that high up there! This is like the only Diamond in Amway in the last 5 years even though Ambots show up here leaving comments screaming that Amway is breaking 100s of Diamonds every month. You got to wonder who Dean and Marcie pissed off in their upline because you never see them at any major Amway functions except once about 2 years ago and I don't even remember which one it was. So they're not getting a very big piece of greed pie. The bulk of their money must be at local Amway meetings where they charge $15 per ambot. A far cry from the thousands they'd make at major Amway functions. Amway says a Diamond makes about $150,000/year so they're probably not making much more than that if they're not getting the prime speaking slots at major functions. If they're even Diamonds any more and that might be why they're not getting the big functions. Diamonds are not forever in Amway but head office lets them keep the bragging rights and they have 2 years to try to get back in qualification so that might be what's going on. And that could explain why they're poking fun at Amway and Ambots because they've fallen out of Diamond qualification. I'm not sure how many people from Edmonton read this blog and could let you know if they're hearing the same thing. Sometimes we put up the visitor stats and this might fluctuate but out of 1000 visitors, 800 will be from the US, about 75 each from Canada and India, and the other 50 from other countries. So you can see 2nd and 3rd place visitors from other countries are way behind. And yes as you said due to oversaturation, the Internet getting the word out there to people thinking about joining, and Amway's bad reputation precedes itself.

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    2. I'm so fired up that I found a fellow edmontonian. My sweet boyfriend got sucked into this just before we got together. I sat through a few of their nights (even one at their fancy new house where they stuck us out in their shop, I have a sneaking suspicion that the house was empty and bare besides a few tubes of blister) anyway I hadn't heard too much of Amway and my boyfriend and I were new so I was ultimately supportive when he became an Ibo. Then came my first meeting, then my first big event... And second... Etc. Everytime I had to meet with his upline id get more and more hostile... More angry. The hatred swelled inside of me and I became fiercely protective of my sweet open minded boyfriend. After finally compiling all the evidence with math, sociology, psychology and science with a bit of emotion I got him out before it was too late. I'm embarrassed that I knew these people, but am so happy ill never have to starve at a meeting or travel for a good ol family reunion or a casual nuts n bolts so we can get six months closer to debt. God damn I'm fired up!

      Love your blog and you were an excellent outlet and resource in trying to get my boyfriend out of the dark reaches of these revolting sheeple and their mantras...

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    3. Hi Unknown. Sorry to hear about your boyfriend. And that's what Amway is all about. Taking sweet people and turning them into nasty ugly sneering evil Amway assholes.

      Your suspicion about the house being empty, no furniture is probably true. Ambots have to spend all their money tithing the Great Amway God so there's no money leftover for the necessities of life.

      Glad to hear you got out of Scamway and hope that not too much financial and emotional damage was done. Thanks for reading the blog and that you found it helpful in getting through this dark period in your lives.

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  8. I feel like you're speaking to me. I have been married for 7 years and the two biggest fight I've had with my husband have been since he started on Amway and I saw the bill for $500 of shitty products. Especially since I am so gung ho about the products not being tested on animals, etc. When I saw that box with enough products to open a store when we already had cleaning supplies, and I saw all the flavored water and soda (when we have NEVER drank that before) and all the damn fucking granola and dietary suplements I flipped my shit.

    I love my husband, I adore him in fact, but I can't stand how easily he was brain washed by those fuckers and every time he mentions the guy who got him started on it, I feel this rage in my stomach and have to change the subject. He just called me to see if we were going to buy the tickets for the Dreams Night crap thing. And innocent me asked if it was raising money for a charity or something. Nope, just to sit there and have some blowhard cult fucker try to brainwash the spouses as well. I just can't spend $70 to sit there and bite my tongue. I will get a nosebleed. Then you are the unsuportive shrew of a wife.

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    1. Mel82 - I'm glad you found us. Yes I'm speaking to you and every other woman who's found themselves where I once was: married to an Amway Ambot.

      And everything you said, we've all experienced too. I'm not sure which month you're referring to for the $500 bill of shitty overpriced Amway products, but if it wasn't December, hold on for another fight because you can be sure he was buying shitty Amway products as Christmas gifts for everyone on his list just to get his old PV up there and please the fucking assholes in his Amway upline.

      I hear exactly what you're saying. What the hell is wrong with our husbands that they don't listen to us and put us down lower than the fucking assholes in their Amway upline. Brainwashed by them and takes their advice over people he's know for a whole lot longer. It is absolutely frightening the control these evil Amway cult leaders have over them. They've taken a nice loving man and turned him into a nasty sneering Ambot bastard.

      You can be pretty sure the assholes in his upline are "counselling" with him to end his relationship with you because you're a negative unchristian dreamstealing wife. I know that because I've been there. There's nothing that brings those evil Amway bastards more happiness that destroying other people's lives.

      If you can at all avoid it don't waste your money on Dream Night that should be better called Nightmare Night. What do you get for your $70? A hotel banquet serving of chicken or similar that costs the hotel around $15 including the room rental and staff. The rest of that money is split between the Amway cult leaders who show up to talk to the followers and show a slide show of how rich they are. Well the only way to get rich in Amway is by selling tickets to events like this. Really for $70 the two of you can go out and have a decent meal somewhere and still have money left over. Just keep an eye out that he's not being pressured into buying a whole bunch of extra tickets to please his upline and put more money in the Diamond's pockets. Nobody wants to go to Dream Night except brainwashed ambots.

      You don't say how long he's been in Scamway. Most people quit after a few months when they run out of money or have no room left on the credit cards and realize they lost a lot of money and didn't make any money. 95% of IBO's quit within 2 years. Sometimes all you can do is wait him out. Once he's deprogrammed himself from the Amway cult he'll turn into a nice person again. All you can do is hope he didn't go too much into debt. Or hope that you're still young enough to bounce back financially. There's a lot of sad stories of seniors who wiped out their retirement funds on the Amway scam and have now gone back to work in their 70's and 80's.

      Good luck. I hope things work out.

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    2. Dear Mel82 --

      Has your husband bought any of those tapes or CDs from his Amway up-line yet? If he has, why not sit down with him and play the tape together... and then ask him to tell you, honestly, if it isn't just a lot of rah-rah-let's-go-team bullshit, without the slightest bit of practical business advice in it.

      Ask him if the tape or CD says anything different from what some stupid overhyped TV infomercial says. And ask him, "If Amway is a genuine business concern, why are they asking you to buy silly CDs and tapes like this? How does this kind of stuff help you to sell products?"

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    3. Mel82 - if you come back and read this and haven't already done so look on the right side of this page under more information about Amway and you'll see a link to a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. Download it and read it for a better understanding of this money losing cult your husband has got involved in.

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  9. You my dear are an absolute loser at the game of life! You actually took this much time and effort to write this trash. You are the type of lazy, entitled, looking to get rich quick person that this organization does what they do to weed out! My good friend who sponsored me was a loser like you but being around positive people who genuinely want nothing from you but to bring you up, changed his life. He is now 4 years clean and sober, has a beautiful son, isn't the foul mouthed person he was before. He honed his skills of hard work, talking to others with the interest of helping them change their lives as he did his. How much does Safeway send you a year for your hard earned dollars? Costco or wherever you spend your families money? ZERO...they spend it on flyers and employees and cheap advertising campaigns to suck you in to buy garbage to feed to your kids! You are so clueless it is rather disgusting but you are exactly what is wrong with this world. I mean on the internet you can find people who think Mother Teresa is bad or that eating McDonald's is healthy. Heck, why don't you look into what a sham of a pyramid scam your job is! Instead of going to positive meetings and listening to great inspiring audios and being around people who want to help you get better, not to mention show you a way to help yourself and a team of like minded individuals retire young and quit trading their time for money and be free parents, keep wasting your money on concert tickets, booze, and other things not to mention wasting your life at a job. They don't want you or any other person who reads this trash and agrees with you. You deserve to retire at 65 and get a hat and a pair of binoculars while living for the weekend.

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    1. Hey Oliver Jones - how does it affect your life if I'm a loser at the game of life? Why is that so important to you? I mean it doesn't affect my life at all that you've chosen to worship the Great Amway God and you're committed to being a broke Amway loser. I don't give a fuck if you want to throw your money away so why do you give a fuck about my life? This blog is all about cursing out the fucking assholes in the Amway upline and making fun of Amway's overpriced shitty products and providing a place of support to women who are married to ambots or others who have a loved one inside the Amway cult. It doesn't appear that this blog is something of interest to you. I don't read blogs that don't interest me and I sure don't leave comments on blogs that don't interest me so I can drive them up higher on search engines. But then I'm not a dumb fuck like Amway losers are.

      But thanks for stopping by with your bullshit Amspeak propaganda that Ambots have been slinging for decades. Nothing every changes in Scamway and it's always good when fucking Amway assholes stop by to prove it. I mean really those fucking Amway assholes were always bitching about Mother Teresa and telling people to look online for bad things about her years ago when I was at Amway cult meetings. Just because Mother Teresa has different religious beliefs than Ambots who follow Amway the Cult of Greed really seems to fuel the hatred you Amway losers have for people of different religious beliefs. Just like Hitler but then of course I've never seen so many little Hitlers running around like I did in Amway. Amway cult leaders rely strongly on the handbooks of Hitler and Jim Jones their idols.

      I think you need to go back and read Page 5 of the Amway Business Reference Guide where it says under
      Code of Ethics
      As IBOs, we are committed to conducting our
      businesses according to the following principles:
      • We will follow not only the letter of the Rules of
      Conduct, but also the spirit of the Rules.
      • We will conduct ourselves in such a manner as to
      reflect only the highest standards of integrity, honesty,
      and responsibility because we recognize that our
      actions as IBOs have far-reaching effects, not only on
      our own businesses, but on that of other IBOs as well

      You know Amway's head office reads this blog frequently. I'm sure they will be very proud of the way you have conducted yourself and represented their company. LOL!

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  10. This "Oliver Jones" is a perfect example of Amway stupidity and viciousness.

    Notice that he goes on about how Amway "changes the lives of others." This is the new Amway propaganda designed to cover up the fact that people are earning next to nothing in the racket. You get a ten-buck refund check for spending $300 to qualify, and so the company has to push irrelevant bullshit on you about how you are "helping others to change their lives." Yeah, sure. The people you are helping are your greedy up-line.

    Hey, Oliver Jones -- how much money have you lost in Amway so far? Tell us the truth. And don't give us any bullshit about how you are "helping others" or "changing their lives" or "listening to great inspiring audios."

    It's hard to fathom -- this moron Oliver Jones actually LIKES those ridiculous Amway CDs? Those dopey rah-rah-let's-go-team tapes that are nothing but cheerleader arm-pumping? Doesn't he realize that they're mostly just recordings from past Amway "functions," usually of dimwitted Diamonds and their brainless wives telling fake rags-to-riches stories? Oliver Jones actually finds this crap "inspiring"? What a schmuck he must be.

    Hey Oliver -- here's a prediction about you. You're not going to get rich in Amway, and you're not going to retire early. You're just going to be an Amway "lifer" whose entire existence is wrapped up in trying to sell crappy products to people who don't need or want them. You're going to fail totally in your stupid 6-4-2 plan, because anti-MLM websites like this one have made it next to impossible for Amway assholes like you to develop new down-line.

    You're a loser, Oliver Jones. You just don't know it yet.

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    1. Anonymous - Oliver Jones is just your usual Amway loser spouting off stupid vicious evil bullshit Amspeak propaganda. And this motherfucker probably thinks he's so original like we haven't heard this bullshit from hundreds of other Amway Ambots ahead of him.

      Oliver Jones did something really weird to try to disguise his identity. Maybe using one of those hide my ass IP addresses but he started off reading this post and maybe writing the comment too on a computer that showed up in Vancouver Canada. And one minute after this was posted switches to an iPad that shows Edmonton Canada but that might have been nothing more than the mobile carrier showing another city like maybe where they're based out of or something. I don't understand it. Or why someone switches devices like to trick us or something like we really give a fuck. Nobody else was looking at this 4 year old post yesterday and then there's 2 hits within 15 minutes during the time when Oliver Jones was leaving a comment. Yeah things that make you go hmmm but like we really give a fuck where Amway losers are lurking.

      LOL Anonymous on your prediction for Oliver! That's got a better chance of coming true than bazillions of dollars rolling in from Amway every month for the rest of his life LOL!

      I guess it's good enough that the rest of us know Oliver Jones is a loser. Just like everyone else in the Amway cult. Losers!

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  11. I stumbled on here because I looked up the diamonds mentioned website, who I heard about years ago. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the Amway Corp have a guarantee that you can get fully refunded for your business after a certain amount of time? Even up to a year. I had an old boyfriend who was in for over a year and I definitely remember they refunded him when he called because he was moving out of state after college to take a job and needed the money. I also believe they have a 6 month money back on all products, even if you've used it up. During that time, he literally called and asked if he could send back everything he had purchased within those 6 months to have the money to move, etc. They told him to keep it and they refunded all of it, no question. In terms of costs for events, I would think renting hotel ballrooms or arenas, etc would cost money and certainly aren't free so I would imagine they have to cover the cost for the venue, crew, cleanup etc. Tony Robbins and all those other motivational guys out there literally thousands thousands just to hype people uo and also make money on selling their books, podcasts, etc. People pay it because they find the infomation valuable and therefore motivational guys like Tony Robbins get paid high dollare bc they have great work ethic and add value to others lives. They should get paid. That's how it works. I'm sure you get paid at work for the value you bring to the company and your boss and their boss. I guess it is just confusing to me to have a mission to inform people of only your opinion and view it as saving people that you believe are misinformed and think are being duped. Why do you even care? What's in it for you? It sounds all very cynical and bitter and grossly obsessive. Isn't Amway in partnership with big companies? I guess I could look it up, but I thought I remember something about them being linked to Apple, Starbucks, Best Buy, Nike? I remember my ex boyfriend told me something about that. Meanwhile, you are on here trying to inform people to self righteously protect them from these so called evil people and yet these companies who have way more to lose than you by being linked to a scam company lead by scammers are probably vastly more informed and would have way more to risk than some Joe Blow off the street. It seems ignorant to me to overlook those facts and give thought to random negative opinions. Facts win. He actually quit bc he was moving away to take an engineering job and decided he wasn't ever likely going to do the extra work it took to build a business and wanted to focus solely on building his engineering career. I supported him in and out of Amway. I did go to a few meetings and conferences while he was involved. I didn't hear anything or alarming that was no different that any other success principle that has ever been taught. I met some really amazing and genuine people who I still reach out to from time to time and consider friends. They never tried to break us up, have us change our friends, cut off family, or try to get me involved as an IBO. I think it's important to note that I did notice changes for the better in him after he get around the Amway people. He started to treat me better and became more focused on school and everything in general. They didn't crucify as him as you have decribed when he told them he was quitting. They actually wished him well. I wanted to say something on here because it sounds like just a bash session of disgruntled people and I don't find any truth to these claims and I think what you have written is unfair and pathetic.

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    1. Anonymous - there's something fishy going on here with what you've written. You've spouted off a bunch of bullshit Amspeak propaganda only used by Amway Ambots.

      If you're not in Amway why do you really give a flying fuck what I write about here and why you think it's unfair. Only Amway losers would say that. Our real life experiences at the emotional and financial distress Amway has caused is unfair? LOL! And only Amway losers go on about facts and blabber about negative opinions. If it talks like an Amway loser .... it IS an Amway loser!

      And if you have an old boyfriend who is no longer in Amway then why did you really give a flying fuck what people have to say about this scam MLM?

      I know you can quit ScAmway within 30 days and get your money back because someone we signed up did that. Don't believe those lying scamming Amway assholes about the 180 day money back guarantee. You will find that none of those fucking Amway losers who brag about that have actually ever tried to get a refund because its more trouble than its worth when you call Amway's head office and try to deal with their "customer service" aka I-Don't-Give-A-Shit department. Look at the small print on Amway's catalogues. The period for a refund varies depending on the product and most of the products Amway sells are not eligible for refunds. The stuff with the high PV that Ambots are ordered to buy. In other words just about everything you can put in your mouth is not eligible for a refund but Amway might replace and send you another one if you bitch about it enough. You also forgot to mention that Amway charges Ambots a processing fee for the limited items they do refunds on.

      So what you're saying is because you had a different Amway experience than us that that invalidates our experience? I really hate motherfuckers who say "well that's not my experience" and therefore that invalidates someone else's experience. You can share your experience but if you want to show up here and invalidate ours - well then go fuck yourself!

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  12. To Anonymous at 12:38 PM --

    If you aren't in Amway, and your ex-boyfriend was in it years ago but left it, why were you now trying to "look up" certain Diamonds on the internet? That "story" has the odor of a lie.

    In addition, why did you feel it necessary to write and post an 800-word defense of Amway if you are not associated with the company? What's your real motive, honey?

    Third, why are you still telling the absurd lie that Amway is "in partnership" with certain big companies? That's nothing but propagandistic bullshit -- certain big companies allow Amway to sell some of their products to Amway IBOs, nothing more. Partnership? Don't make us laugh, sweetie.

    And lastly, why do you have your tits in the wringer at all about what is said here at Anna's blog? What's it to you if we lambaste the Amway racket here?

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    1. LOL Anonymous! Tits in the wringer! LOL!

      Surely I'm not the only woman out there who feels this way but I don't care about any of my former boyfriends and I sure don't give a shit about any of their former employers!

      For example one of my exes worked as a train mechanic. Whether or not he still does I don't know and I don't give a shit! Like most trains they get bad publicity when something goes wrong. And there's angry people venting online. But you sure don't see me leaving a comment in any of those forums defending my former boyfriend's former employer! LOL! I'm not going to make an asshole out of myself and say "I believe they have 180 days to get a refund even though they died in the crash."

      Why would I be a liar and make an asshole out of myself defending a former boyfriend's former employer? LOL! Get over him!

      If I was a loser who felt I must defend my former boyfriend's former employer I wouldn't be typing out 800 words on my Android. Jesus I'd be using a computer keyboard to type out something lengthy!

      For all we know titties in a wringer and Oliver Jones are the same person. I'm trying to see where any Diamonds were actually named in the post which was inspired by a Dateline episode or named in any comments and I don't see it. I'm not sure which Diamonds titties in a wringer was looking up but this was the only post on this blog that titties was looking at. Next thing you'll know titties in a wringer will be on a website complaining about Google search engine results for getting a bad result. "Here's my true story: I searched for an Amway Diamond and I got a bad result and landed on a post talking about a Dateline episode on a blog where people curse out Amway losers."

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  13. Hey there! I know I am late but I just came across this post while looking for some training documents and I thought I would put in my two cents. First and foremost I want to apologize for the negative experiences everyone here has had.
    It sounds like all of these stories of going into debt were the product of poor mentor-ship by your upline.
    I am not trying to push my thoughts on anyone. I just simply want to share my honest thoughts about my current experience with the organization.
    I believe the products are fantastic. They've helped with a lot of health and skin problems that some prescription medication could not help with.
    My husband is an athlete and uses protein shakes that would cost almost $70CAD. Considering the ingredients and the taste compared to other brands he has tried, he prefers the XS protein powder (just about $50). He knows that he would use it even if we weren't in business. Same with the anti-hairfall shampoo for me. My hair used to fall out a lot due to PCOS (some of you ladies may know what that is) and it helped my hair. Most of the products are fairly priced. Are some of them over-priced? For my taste yes. So we avoid those products.
    Now to touch on your point about debt, We have actually been paying off our debt faster than we ever have been. This is due to a few factors. Our upline created a mandatory budget for us. They did not force us to do 100pv of personal use, in fact they first had us start with switching over small things like our toothpaste, mouthwash and shampoo. What they do push for is living below your means. I didn't understand this at first and I was resistant to this change but I really do understand the importance of this now. One of the most common things we see, which my husband and I are guilty of, is paying interest on an asset that depreciates in value, AKA Cars. We know we can Should we be paying $400 a month including interest on a vehicle that is not even worth the purchase amount when you drive it off the lot?
    We sold our new vehicle, used $5000 of that to buy a cheaper vehicle in cash and saved the rest. Amway or no Amway, this was a smart move for us. In our budget, they INCLUDED the cost of our monthly orders and gave us the flexibility to set an allowance for each of us to spend it on whatever we want.
    We used to spend about $2000 a month on food for the both of us (It was way too much food) I was also overweight.
    Now we spend about $800 a month on food. Included in our $350 a month order from the store, are meal replacement shakes that replace our breakfast, I am also losing weight steadily.
    At the end of the month we still have a few hundred dollars that we pay towards our existing consumer debt to pay it down faster. (since we have been in business for the last 6 months, we have paid off almost $5000 worth of debt)
    Keep in mind, we gave up driving expensive vehicles, downgraded our phone plans, got off social media to avoid the need to use so much data, cancelled our netflix subscriptions, down graded our gym membership etc. All of these things feel like losses until you start seeing how much time and money you save by ditching them.
    As far as the membership fees go, I agree with every fee/cost of function ticket etc. except for Communikate lol. I use it very frequently, it's a great tool, but text and whatsapp is free haha. I personally don't see it as a loss. My parents were really scared at first as well, until they saw how my relationship with my husband was changing, how I was becoming more confident, how I got promoted at work because of the skills I've picked up etc.

    I just want to also say, that although you had a really bad experience with those people and the upline you were involved with, I think that as adults there is better language to use to express those feelings. I hope that you guys are doing okay now.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by to reaffirm to us that Amway is still a blame the victim scam and ambots are still taught to sling the same bullshit propaganda and lies.

      You can find protein powder and good protein powder for closer to $20. The fact that you prefer $50 or $70 is your thing. Taste is subjective. I'm guessing if you opened your minds to trying other products you'd be able to find much cheaper protein powder, shampoo, and meal replacement shakes that work just as good or better for you.

      But you can't deal with logic on brainwashed Amway cult followers.

      As for a budget there are places that will help you out for free like credit counselling services and maybe even your bank. Thanks for letting us know that Amway cult leaders are still counselling their followers to sell off their assets like houses and cars and use that to pay off your debt. The problem with that scenario is that Amway cult leaders only want you to pay off your credit card debt so you're now starting at zero and will be able to stockpile a bunch of overpriced shitty Amway products.

      Why don't you make an appointment with your bank. Say you want the financial planner to help with your budget and that you want to take out a small business loan and show them the Amway "business plan" and see how that goes for you.

      And once again I have to point out that right at the top of the blog's page it says this is the place to curse out the Amway upline. That's what we deliver here. If that's not your thing or you don't like the language don't come back.

      Sounds simple but I suppose Amway Ambots have to ask permission from their upline first.

      Amway is an education in more ways than one.

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    1. Hi Unknown from Perth, Australia. Your country isn't even in Amway's top 10 countries for sales so just goes to show most Australians aren't dumb fucks like you who can't tell a great business from their asshole.

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  15. I read through this blog and the trend I see is Anna Banana is quite negative. The people who do come forward from Amway are intelligent and genuine. I’m not even in amway and the hate turns me towards them. I rather hang with nice people than haters.

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    1. Another Amway asshole comes here, pretending "I'm not even in Amway..."

      Gin, you're a lying piece of shit. If you're not in Amway, why have you come to a website specifically directed at the business? And how do you know that people in Amway are "intelligent and genuine"?

      You won't even have the courage to answer these questions. So you're also a coward.

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    2. Hello Gin using your iPhone from Edmonton Canada.

      How do we know when someone in Amway is lying? Their mouth is moving! Or in the case of the Internet - they're typing something.

      Biggest lie - you read through this blog. You're a fucking liar Gin. You did an Amway related search and ended up on a post that's 6 years old and you didn't go to any other pages on this blog except this one.

      Random people who are not in Amway don't do Amway searches unless they're married to an Ambot or have friends and family in the Amway cult and are trying to get info. Amway Ambots are so fucking embarrassed to admit they're in Amway so they naturally lie about it.

      Amway losers are consumed with all thing they perceive to be "negative". Like people who have a different point of view than their cult leaders.

      Amway losers are also consumed with all the "haters" out there.

      You think Ambot Oliver Jones who left the nasty comment above is a nice person, intelligent and genuine. LOL! He's a regular Amway loser but of course you'd think the negativity he's spouting off is nice and genuine and shows his intelligence LOL!

      If you're going to show up and lie about not being in Amway you'd be move believable if you don't spout off Amspeak after doing an Amway search LOL. Dumb fuck!

      And as an aside around 10% off this blog's visitors come from Canada, maybe slightly less. Fluctuates with India for the #2 and #3 most visitors. And most of the Amway losers are all from Alberta. Rarely anyone else in Canada is on this blog.

      Yup we can spot Amway losers a mile off LOL!

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  16. Alberta is Amway Central north of the U.S. Border. It's even more Amway-focused than Montreal, which used to be the Amway capital.

    There are hundreds of shitheads in Canada who have been brainwashed by Amway.

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    1. Anonymous - tens of thousands is probably more like it LOL! When you consider how long ScAmway has been around tens of thousands might even be a low ball. Current Ambots? You're probably right that it's in the hundreds. Not even in the top 10 countries that Amway has infested.

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  17. We have built this business for almost 10 years and have gone platinum and broke two platinum legs. I am still recovering from manipulations and emotional abuse … it’s funny but I have never felt so free in my entire life . Merchant of deception was what pushed me into quitting and also becoming a mother . I couldn’t leave my babies just to go listen to some boring talk on how to build this thing . I am thankful to God for removing us out of this cult . We also took out other platinums with us . People if you ever want to personally grow or have a better marriage or be financially independent there is other ways not Amway !!!! There is seminars , there is people out there that you can pay and the will help you without hidden things .

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    1. Hi Anonymous. I'm glad to hear you figured out Amway is a scam and you've gotten away from the emotional and financial abuse. Amazing that you made it as far as Platinum because many people in Amway don't even sign up one downline and there you are with two Platinums below you. But could never get any higher level after 10 years. So much for the go Diamond by working part time 10 to 15 hours a week in two to five years!

      And you are very correct. If you want to be financially free that will not happen in Amway. But there are other ways to figure out how to do that. Classes, seminars, finding a real mentor who's doing something you want to do. Not those phony ass Amway mentors who teach you how to scam other people.

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If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
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